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  • ManBearPig
    SBR MVP
    • 12-04-08
    • 2473

    #1506
    No this information isn't as freely available as NBA data. I tried to look but it's a bitch to find almost any data. I'll keep a lookout and let you know if/when I come across anything. I would say your guess is probably in the ball park though.
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    • RingoStar
      SBR Hustler
      • 06-13-11
      • 73

      #1507
      Hi 70, hope your system hit in wnba in the same way it did with nba

      keep us updated please!
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      • Bluehorseshoe
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 07-13-06
        • 15016

        #1508
        Originally posted by 70kgman

        You wouldn't happen to have access to a source with a 1H/2H points breakdown for last WNBA season as well, would you? No big deal if it is something that would take a long time to get. I would guess it to be somewhere around 49.1% 1H / 50.9% 2H since that seems to be the general area the linesmakers have been setting the half totals so far this year, but an exact number would be helpful, if possible.
        What specifically are you looking for? I might be able to help.
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        • 70kgman
          SBR MVP
          • 01-31-10
          • 4354

          #1509
          Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
          What specifically are you looking for? I might be able to help.
          Total points scored in the 1st half and total points scored in the 2nd half from last season for all teams. Basically so I can come up with a conclusion along the lines of "49.1% of total points are scored in the 1H on average in the WNBA, 50.9% in the 2nd half".
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          • Bluehorseshoe
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-13-06
            • 15016

            #1510
            Originally posted by 70kgman

            Total points scored in the 1st half and total points scored in the 2nd half from last season for all teams. Basically so I can come up with a conclusion along the lines of "49.1% of total points are scored in the 1H on average in the WNBA, 50.9% in the 2nd half".
            Can't you just get that from ESPN's scoreboard section and bring up last year's schedule? I have Sports Options which has a score history section. If you haven't used them yet, you could just sign up for the free 1 week trial and check it out that way.
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            • ManBearPig
              SBR MVP
              • 12-04-08
              • 2473

              #1511
              Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
              Can't you just get that from ESPN's scoreboard section and bring up last year's schedule? I have Sports Options which has a score history section. If you haven't used them yet, you could just sign up for the free 1 week trial and check it out that way.
              Besides looking at the game-by-game box scores there's nothing that really breaks it out by half, that I've seen. You'd have to write a scraper that can loop through and do, but at this point it becomes a little bit more work than 70k probably intended.
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              • 70kgman
                SBR MVP
                • 01-31-10
                • 4354

                #1512
                Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                Can't you just get that from ESPN's scoreboard section and bring up last year's schedule? I have Sports Options which has a score history section. If you haven't used them yet, you could just sign up for the free 1 week trial and check it out that way.
                Yeah, I know where to find the box scores, but the only way of coming up with the info I wanted would be to manually add up every single 1H/2H from every single game with an an old fashioned pencil and paper. That would take forever. I will just start with a guesstimate and keep track of all the games this year in a spreadsheet.
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                • 70kgman
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-31-10
                  • 4354

                  #1513
                  A little late looking into this one. Line has moved up a few points already, but still like it at the current number.

                  Connecticut/Washington Over 153.5
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                  • dume walker
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 04-08-10
                    • 971

                    #1514
                    BOL on a new sport and a fresh season!
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                    • Bluehorseshoe
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 07-13-06
                      • 15016

                      #1515
                      Originally posted by 70kgman

                      Yeah, I know where to find the box scores, but the only way of coming up with the info I wanted would be to manually add up every single 1H/2H from every single game with an an old fashioned pencil and paper. That would take forever. I will just start with a guesstimate and keep track of all the games this year in a spreadsheet.
                      It honestly would take you about an hour with SO the way it's set up. It's really not that many games compared to the NBA.

                      If you want me to do it and structure it a certain way, PM me.
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                      • 70kgman
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-31-10
                        • 4354

                        #1516
                        1st Half: Connecticut/Washington Over 74
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                        • Not-A-Kid
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 03-07-11
                          • 525

                          #1517
                          Nice call on the 1H over 70kg. Big 2nd qtr by Washington.
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                          • Blue_Chips
                            Restricted User
                            • 08-20-10
                            • 1775

                            #1518
                            Is there a 2nd half play?
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                            • 70kgman
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-31-10
                              • 4354

                              #1519
                              1st Half: New York / Chicago Over 72
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                              • 70kgman
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-31-10
                                • 4354

                                #1520
                                2H: Phoenix / San Antonio Under 91
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                                • 70kgman
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-31-10
                                  • 4354

                                  #1521
                                  1st Half: Washington / Tusla Over 77
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                                  • dume walker
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 04-08-10
                                    • 971

                                    #1522
                                    Thanks for the picks, K. I'm keeping my units low at the moment. Are you feeling you're getting a handle on this sport, relative to how you did with the NBA and NCAAB, or does it feel like something that's a little more difficult to get a grip on?
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                                    • 70kgman
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-31-10
                                      • 4354

                                      #1523
                                      Originally posted by dume walker
                                      Thanks for the picks, K. I'm keeping my units low at the moment. Are you feeling you're getting a handle on this sport, relative to how you did with the NBA and NCAAB, or does it feel like something that's a little more difficult to get a grip on?
                                      Considering how early it is in the season, the numbers are still "extreme" and may take a while to even out and make it easier to predict with strong accuracy. So I expect them to get stronger over time.

                                      Though, in defense of the 1-3 start to my WNBA picks, that Conn/Wash Over 153.5 was some bad luck, was 4 points away from covering with 1:30 left, and they missed every shot and every free throw the rest of the game, and for some reason didn't intentionally foul at all down by 7 points. It probably covers 95% of the time if you replay the final minute and a half of that game. And even though yesterday's 1H over lost by 5, I was happy with the play in hindsight, it lost because of unpredictably horrible 1H shooting in every category, they scored 91 2H points once they started shooting around "average". So, easily could be 3-1 right now.
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                                      • ManBearPig
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-04-08
                                        • 2473

                                        #1524
                                        you'll get it 70k...you just need better numbers to develop.
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                                        • 70kgman
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-31-10
                                          • 4354

                                          #1525
                                          You gave me two points, and SBR charged me 4 points transaction fee to receive the 2 points. Seems fair!!! Thanks for the negative 2 points Dume, just kidding.
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                                          • dume walker
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 04-08-10
                                            • 971

                                            #1526
                                            Originally posted by 70kgman
                                            You gave me two points, and SBR charged me 4 points transaction fee to receive the 2 points. Seems fair!!! Thanks for the negative 2 points Dume, just kidding.
                                            Un-freakin'-real. If you know how I can give you more points, by all means, pass it along. I'd be glad to drop a hundred on you. Not being pro, I have no use for them. And it's the least I can do for NBA profits I made off your picks.
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                                            • Love The Action
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 11-08-10
                                              • 10952

                                              #1527
                                              Good luck...glad to see you giving the ladies a try. I'm on the over tonight as well both for the game and 1h. Let's get it!
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                                              • 70kgman
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-31-10
                                                • 4354

                                                #1528
                                                1st Half: Minnesota / Atlanta Under 83.5
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                                                • dume walker
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 04-08-10
                                                  • 971

                                                  #1529
                                                  Thanks for the winner, K-Man.
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                                                  • 70kgman
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-31-10
                                                    • 4354

                                                    #1530
                                                    2H: Indiana / Phoenix Over 89
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                                                    • dume walker
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 04-08-10
                                                      • 971

                                                      #1531
                                                      Originally posted by 70kgman
                                                      2H: Indiana / Phoenix Over 89
                                                      OT counts on our 2H over, right? If so, the ladies did for us something I don't think the men ever did. Have an OT total go in our favor.
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                                                      • 70kgman
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-31-10
                                                        • 4354

                                                        #1532
                                                        Just how I capped it.

                                                        Was psyched when the live box score went from 82-80 with 8 seconds left to 82-82 with 1 second left at the next refresh. I need to get better at these WNBA 2H's though, both so far have looked pretty bad.
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                                                        • 70kgman
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-31-10
                                                          • 4354

                                                          #1533
                                                          Still good at 153 where it is now.

                                                          Seattle / Tulsa Under 155.5
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                                                          • 70kgman
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-31-10
                                                            • 4354

                                                            #1534
                                                            2H: Phoenix / SA Over 92.5
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                                                            • dume walker
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 04-08-10
                                                              • 971

                                                              #1535
                                                              I missed the 2nd pick that would have made it a push night. Oh, well. Looks like you're getting a handle on those 2H numbers. Good for you, brother.
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                                                              • 70kgman
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-31-10
                                                                • 4354

                                                                #1536
                                                                Right play, bad beat on that Seattle under. Was projected to go under the first 98% of the game up until the final minute or so. Seattle, a team with a 37% shooting percentage this year shot 54% in that game, and it still barely went over in the final 20 seconds of the game. That team shooting 54% is just an anomaly that probably wont happen again this year.
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                                                                • Not-A-Kid
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 03-07-11
                                                                  • 525

                                                                  #1537
                                                                  Yeah that 2H of the SEA/TUL game was frustrating. Oh well, on to the next one.
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                                                                  • ManBearPig
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 12-04-08
                                                                    • 2473

                                                                    #1538
                                                                    Hey 70..I don't know if you ever got your answer, but I'm compiling some stats for this season in the WNBA because I have nothing and have to start somewhere and it looks like the scoring breaks out as such for the halves. This seems to validate an initial observation I'm having about 1H vs. 2H scoring.

                                                                    I'm only trying to compile some data so I can evaluate, but I just thought I'd share. I don't have anything for prior seasons though to validate this point further, yet. The NBA is small enough I could almost break this out by team and see what that yields just for the hell of it.

                                                                    Percentage of scoring by Half.
                                                                    1H - 49%
                                                                    2H - 51%
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                                                                    • 70kgman
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 01-31-10
                                                                      • 4354

                                                                      #1539
                                                                      Originally posted by ManBearPig
                                                                      Hey 70..I don't know if you ever got your answer, but I'm compiling some stats for this season in the WNBA because I have nothing and have to start somewhere and it looks like the scoring breaks out as such for the halves. This seems to validate an initial observation I'm having about 1H vs. 2H scoring.

                                                                      I'm only trying to compile some data so I can evaluate, but I just thought I'd share. I don't have anything for prior seasons though to validate this point further, yet. The NBA is small enough I could almost break this out by team and see what that yields just for the hell of it.

                                                                      Percentage of scoring by Half.
                                                                      1H - 49%
                                                                      2H - 51%
                                                                      Thanks. I have also been keeping track of this years 1H/2H data, so I have the same info you have. Bluehorseshoe also provided me with a 1H/2H breakdown of May & June of last season and that came out to the same number as well...49.0%/51.0%.
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                                                                      • ManBearPig
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 12-04-08
                                                                        • 2473

                                                                        #1540
                                                                        Ok, good to know that we're all in agreement. I figured you had got your answer but just wanted to share in case. I got into it because I notice that teams with leads in the 1H typically don't extend them in the 2H and in a lot of cases seem to lose these leads and barely hold on for the win. In only 36% of the games played this season has one team won both halves.

                                                                        I haven't looked to see what scoring differences are or any other factors, but I think there's something there worth pursuing and it's much more interesting than this baseball thing I just suck at. I just wish I had more data than this season so that's on my list as well.
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