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Yes this series was in play and I just overlooked it. Sorry for the delay.Originally posted by jas19illiniComment -
So does that mean Houston is a play tonight? I dont believe NOH covered either half yesterday.Originally posted by SOLAMANComment -
Schedule: Since the Feb schedule is limited for the month, I have decided to make all listed series in play. The record is 80 - 1 and if your using the limited progression or some form of labby you are in plus units. Even if you are playing the 1st half of game 1, you are plus units but the standard method is at break-even.
The last couple of days, I putting numbers together to look at the 3 line labby with adjustments to the road system.
SEE MY NEXT 2 POSTS......Comment -
NBA ROAD SYSTEM
HALVES / ATS
IDEA: THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO ADJUST THE NBA ROAD SYSTEM TO WORK WITH THE 3-LINE LABBY.
RISK TO WIN UNITS (BASED ON -110)
P1/P4...2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2
P2/P5...2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2
P3/P6...2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2
*P = play of series
Always Bet to win the two outside numbers and eliminate numbers if you win.
2.2 + 2.2 = 4.4 TO WIN 4 UNITS (BASED ON -110)
If you lose, add the total to the end of the line.
2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 - 4.4
note: If any one line becomes too large, we will equally distribute it over the 3 lines..
Everything remains the same except for the betting progression plus there will be non-qualifying series listed on the schedule.
THE SCHEDULE ONLY DETERMINES THE POTENTIAL PLAYS FOR THE DAY.
PENDING SERIES HAS PRIORITY FOLLOWED BY NEW SERIES.
THERE WILL BE SERIES ELIMINATED IF NOT QUALIFIED
ONLY ONE PLAY PER LINE AT THE SAME TIME WITH A POSSIBLE THREE PLAYS AT A TIME.
TIE-BREAKER FOR POTENTIAL PLAY
1. BEST SPREAD FOR THE HOME TEAM
2. BEST ATS AS A HOME TEAM ( used only as the 2nd tie-breaker)
Info available at vegas insider - scores - analysis
The best way to understand it is look at some examples
lac @ ut (11/6),no (11/9), sa (11/10)
den @ dal (11/6), chi (11/8), ind (11/9)
These are the first 2 series listed on the Nov schedule. Since both series starts on 11/6, the lac road series is eliminated because dal has the best home spread. So the den road series is in play.
SEE MY NEXT POST: A LOOK AT THE NOV SCHEDULE USING THE 3 LINE LABBY WITH THE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE ROAD SYSTEM.
COMMENTS: I looked at the one line labby a couple of years ago but I was not aware of the potential of the 3 line labby until reading some of your posts. I would like to give it a test run for the remainder of the season before recommending it as an alternate progression method.
I welcome any progression method that can drastically reduce risk.Comment -
i was talking slower. glad to see u back soloman. i have faithOriginally posted by jas19illiniComment -
NBA ROAD SYSTEM
HALVES/ATS
NOV 2010
(TOTAL NET UNITS / NOV ... plus 33. 2)
LINE 1 / 3 LINE LABBY / P1/P6 (NET UNITS + 30.40)
14. 11/30....2.2 - 2.2 .---- 4.4 TO WIN 4.0 (POR @ PHI/ 1H) WIN (+4.0 UNITS)
13. 11/28....2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 ---- 4.4 TO WIN 4.0 (SA @ NO / 1H) WIN (+4.0 UNITS)
12. 11/24 ...2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 - 4.4 ---- 6.6 TO WIN 6.0 (MN @ HOU/ 1H) WIN (+6.0 UNITS)
11. 11/23..2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 ---- 4.4 TO WIN 4.0 (PHI @ WA/ 1H) LOST (-4.4 UNITS)
10. 11/22..2.2 - 2.2 .---- 4.4 TO WIN 4.0 (NO @ LAC/ 1H) WIN (+4.0 UNITS)
9. 11/19....2.2 - 2.2 - 4.4 .---- 6.6 TO WIN 6.0 (NY @ GS/ 2H) WIN (+6.0 UNITS)
8. 11/17....2.2 - 2.2 .---- 4.4 TO WIN 4.0 (NY @ UT/ 1H) LOST (-4.4 UNITS)
7. 11/16.....2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 ---- 4.4 TO WIN 4.0 (LAL @ MIL/ 1H) WIN (+4.0 UNITS)
6. 11/13.....2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 - 4.4 ---- 6.6 TO WIN 6.0 (TOR @ MIA/ 1H) WIN (+6.0 UNITS)
5. 11/12...2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 ---- 4.4 TO WIN 4.0 (DET @ LAC/ 1H) LOST (-4.4 UNITS)
4. 11/10...2.2 - 2.2 .---- 4.4 TO WIN 4.0 (HOU @ WA/ 1H) WIN (+4.0 UNITS)
3. 11/8.....2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 ---- 4.4 TO WIN 4.0 (MN @ HOU/ 1H) WIN (+4.0 UNITS)
2. 11/7 .....2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 - 4.4 ---- 6.6 TO WIN 6.0 (MN @ HOU/ 1H) WIN (+6.0 UNITS)
1. 11/6.....2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 ---- 4.4 TO WIN 4.0 (DEN @ DAL/ 1H) LOST (-4.4 UNITS)
LINE 2 / 3 LINE LABBY / P2/P5 (NET UNITS +3.20)
4. 11/23...2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 - 4.4 ---- 6.6 TO WIN 6.0 (PHI @ WA/ 2H) WIN (+6.0 UNITS)
3. 11/17...2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 ---- 4.4 TO WIN 4.0 (NY @ UT/ 2H) LOST (-4.4 UNITS)
2. 11/12...2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 - 4.4 ---- 6.6 TO WIN 6.0 (DET @ LAC/ 2H) WIN (+6.0 UNITS)
1. 11/6....2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 ---- 4.4 TO WIN 4.0 (DEN @ DAL/ 2H) LOST (-4.4 UNITS)
LINE 3 / 3 LINE LABBY / P3/P6 (NET UNITS - O.4)
2. 11/19..2.2 - 2.2 ---- 4.4 TO WIN 4.0 (NY @ GS/ 1H) LOST (-4.4 UNITS)
1. 11/8 ....2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 ---- 4.4 TO WIN 4.0 (DEN @ CHI/ 1H) WIN (+4.0 UNITS)
COMMENTS: The total units of 33.2 for Nov was very good and this is with having 8 series eliminated from the schedule because of tie-breakers explained in the explanation.. I also understand that these numbers are the result of a high number of first play covers. I suggest for you to use the Nov schedule and try to follow the above stats to help you understand. One of the best stats to mentioned here.. that the most at risk for any one play was 6.6 units.
I plan to research previous seasons before I will make any conclusions on this but I will give it a test run for the remainder of the season. Watch for my updates.Comment -
No, the series is not in play since I overlooked it.Originally posted by jas19illiniComment -
"ONLY ONE PLAY PER LINE AT THE SAME TIME WITH A POSSIBLE THREE PLAYS AT A TIME."
What are pros and cons of doing it this way, as opposed to how TheLimit explained it with both plays being played on Line 1 at the same time?Comment -
Is there any reason we CANT or SHOULDNT play this series (personally, even though you wont play it)?Originally posted by SOLAMANComment -
Go for it and good luck!!!Originally posted by jas19illiniComment -
NBA ROAD SYSTEM
HALVES / ATS
STARTING 2/7
UPDATE THRU 2/7
NET UNITS +4
LINE 1 / 3 LINE LABBY / P1/P4
2. 02/09.....2.2 - 2.2 ......................4.4 TO WIN 4.0 (dal @ sac / 1h).. n/a
1. 02 /07....2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 - 2.2 ---4.4 TO WIN 4.0 (chi @ por / 1h)...WIN / 4 UNITS
LINE 2 / 3 LINE LABBY / P2/P5
1. 02/09....2.2 - 2.2 . 2.2 - 2.2 .....4.4 TO WIN 4.0 (dal @ sac / 2h) n/a ??? (if no 1h cover)
LINE 3 / 3 LINE LABBY / P3/P6
1. N/A
comments: Yes, I have decided to go with the dal series even though dal has covered all halves twice as a road team this season.Comment -
So am i understanding this right... If two series start on the same day, then one will be eliminated based on best home spread (if using the 3 line labby)? Wouldn't that drastically reduce the number of plays?Comment -
I would assume that is why the labby he set up is to win 4 units. So each series is to win 4 instead of 1.Originally posted by EasyHustlin
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Another solution to that problem is just set up a second 3 line labby for series that otherwise would be eliminated due to tiebreaker, though I'm not sure I understand why that rule exists in the first place. Perhaps to avoid clouding up the lines? If that happens you can always redistribute.Comment -
I see no reason why you limit 1 play for line....
On my personal stuff, I may have 5 plays going...
I play them on Line 1.......
After the results are in....if I am in profit from the 5 games.....I strike
off the appropriate amount from the labby ....
If my games go 2-3...........I take whatever was lost and put in on the labby....
I normally divide the loss by 4 and add that number to the 4 variables on Line 1....Comment -
It seems to me this new method, especially when eliminating series and only playing 1 game per line, could still falter. From what I see it practically relies on a very high 1st play win percentage. This season is so far so good, I'm not sure about seasons past though.
Units lost from a lost series is = 33.6
@Solaman,
By redistributing your lines after a 4th play loss, we can cut this figure down. Because the first 3 plays have a higher win percentage every season thus far, it would make sense to redistribute and let the next series recoup more of the loss. I'm thinking we could possibly split it 65%/35% or 60/40 and redistribute after a play 4 loss. Unless I am misunderstanding, this will cut down the lost units per series loss by even more.Comment -
I use labby lines for this system... I hate to say it, but I am hurting right now doing so... 6 game loss on dallas, and right now minny has covered 4 straight.... basically what it comes down to...no matter what money management you use, losing 10 straight does not treat your bankroll well..Comment -
Redistribution is the " hidden key "..to long term labby profitability.......
Dividing losses and distributing them on Lines that have a higher win pct is critical....Comment -
I agree with JW Cash
There is no real reason for the tie-breaker rule or to only play 1 game per line. That cuts out a lot of plus units. Just play all the games on their respective lines and factor it all out when the day is over. Cross out your wins and carry your losses to the next line. As I said in my previous post, if the loss is the 4th play, we can divide the loss 65%/35%, and recreate the lines. In other words, after a 4th play loss, distribute 65% of the loss on the line 1 and distribute the other 35% on line 2 for the 5th play.
This method I believe maximizes profit gain while minimizing unit loss from failed series' due to the very high win percentage of the first 3 plays.Comment -
Originally posted by dlunc3
Remember ...if you start a labby at
10-10-10-10
10-10-10-10
10-10-10-10
and you have a 10 game losing streak.......
That could make the normal labby...
28-28-28-28
28-28-28-28
28-28-28-28
But ...YOU are in control of how you run your labby...
That very labby ...if re=adjusted could be...
16-16-16-16-16
16-16-16-16-16
16-16-16-16-16
16-16-16-16-16
You always have to be cognizant of the fact that the
Units already WON need to be protected as best as you
can.......
After using the above labby for a couple of wins....you
can then condense it down to whatever you risk tolerance
is comfortable with...........Comment -
@JW Cash
What would you do with the 4th line? I understand you could probably get rid of it after a few wins, so is it only created to spread the risk of betting too big and will never be used?
ThanksComment -
Originally posted by thelimit0310
Correct......its only used to spread risk......and it
might never be used. you want to get back to the
3 lines when you can......but its nice to " divide and conquer "
when you get a long losing streak.....Comment -
Originally posted by thelimit0310
I also have a set profit goal for a system labby...
..i.e. After I clear Line 1 TWICE...I increase the unit size....
In the 10-10-10-10 example, clearing that twice would be $80 profit
Now....if I was in the midst of that 4 line labby and hit $80 profit..then
I would eliminate that labby no matter where we are at and start a new one...
The $80 profit goal is accumulated profit......and whenever
it comes......the labby we were on is gone and we go forward with
the new labby and its increased unit ....Comment -
great info guys, but what the hell is up with the minnesota T-Bags????????Comment -
BOL on your plays todayComment -
Waiting for new winning picks, thank youComment -
Great input on the 3 line labby from everyone. This is a work in progress and yes I did consider multiple plays on the same line, If this was for games and not halves, I would have used the multiple play option. The time factors involved at half time placing your bets using multiple books for multiple plays is tough enough under normal conditions. The scenerio where you have 3 plays on the first line and a play on the second line starting at the same time but the half on the second line is delayed and time is running out to place your multiple bets for the second line, should you use the existing numbers on line 2 or wait for the results and use the adjusted numbers.
Again, if this was games and not halves, it would be no problem but with halves it could be a problem. So I decided to increase the unit size from one unit to two units and use only one play per line at a time. This was my thinking behind this. The example of the Nov schedule won more units than if all series were in play at one unit instead of two.
Many of you are more informed on this method than myself and I may be missing something here but I wanted to give this method a trial run providing another betting option.Comment -
I would adjust my lines after all of the nights plays rather than tweaking while they were in progress. Instead of adjusting at half time, I would adjust when the games for the day are over. Then carry those lines into the next day of play.Originally posted by SOLAMAN
I can meet you half way though, it's a very good idea for beginners to the labby. But people who know how to use one could probably handle the extra clout with no problem.Comment -
Just to be clear...Originally posted by JW Cash
Technically you could have a losing streak, but then win a few games with your labby and hit your profit target after 4 wins or so, even though your bankroll still shows an overall loss from the losing streak. Would you continue to use that labby until your bankroll recovered and showed the profit? Or just after your labby shows the profit target?
Thanks again JW your insight is appreciated
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You could also do an aggressive labby where you split a loss amount by 2 and add half in to your last number on that line and drop the other half and add to the last number of your next line...
10 10 10 10 lose 20 here-see below
10 10 10 10
10 10 10 10
10 10 10 20
10 10 10 20
10 10 10 10Comment -
sac. off. tonight, yes?Comment
