waiting to see the 'ok, i'm officially switching to labby lines' comments now.
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woodyman
SBR Sharp
12-27-08
389
#738
not sure why jackson fouled... but yeh labby seems to be the way to go with this. Unless you chuck in a filter where you dont play against a top 5 road team or something...
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jmjj
SBR High Roller
11-17-10
172
#739
well so much for this system lol it sucks now b/c if u 6 game chase just for a $100 win you'd be down over $4000 for this series I guess if u have been betting since day 1 then your still up but if not then u guys know the rest wow unreal lol
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julio_cat
SBR MVP
10-05-09
1208
#740
So, for me it was a -38 units series, but sometimes it is the way it goes.
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dogs1972
SBR Wise Guy
11-22-09
509
#741
A 6 game chase. WTF was I thinking. 1 loss removed me of 18 months of profits. System and chasing bull shit. I've learned my lesson.
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jphil
SBR Wise Guy
07-12-09
757
#742
Originally posted by julio_cat
So, for me it was a -38 units series, but sometimes it is the way it goes.
Similiar theory i've had per your post #707. I'll either stop after 2nd half of 1st game, or maybe just play the 2nd half, & 1st half of 3rd gm. New at this, & trying to get a feel where the chips are fallin' the last couple of months. And i currently don't use labby to continue on, like yourself. I prefer only 2 gm. chases of any chase sys. when possible. People opting out already cause of today's loss. I guess i must not have their bankroll for this type of sys. Even if i did, i'm pretty sure i wouldn't make it through a 6 gm. chase without a cardiac. You seem to have made out better than most w/ your minimal unit loss, anyways. GL.
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JJV
SBR Sharp
10-31-10
301
#743
Dallas is definitely a good team but to cover all 6 halves like that is crazy. Got to give it to the Mavs. Looking forward to the next plays.
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DoctorX79
SBR Wise Guy
08-19-07
562
#744
Lets get that green cash
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JW Cash
SBR MVP
12-31-08
4453
#745
Labourchere
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c-fut
SBR Wise Guy
09-17-10
547
#746
I've been wanting to do a labby but everytime I start its hard for me to keep track of what to play next. I guess I should just keep a piece of paper with labby lines on me at all times
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EasyHustlin
SBR Wise Guy
07-15-10
633
#747
This system is still great, just be smart and manage your money properly. **** the haters if they don't know the risk involved they shouldn't be playing it. Those of us using labouchere are still well up for the year.
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julio_cat
SBR MVP
10-05-09
1208
#748
For post 742 & 747
Thanks Phill, and GL to you too, Super Sunday today.
Easy, the point is that we are not forced to tail anyone, I just like the system, and play it the way I can afford it.
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cmdyrds
SBR Wise Guy
08-20-09
522
#749
it's gambling. let it all ride on the next half
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bulichme
Restricted User
12-14-10
216
#750
I agree with an earlier post to a drgree about betting vs a top 5 team, but I would add a top 5 team on a roll.
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jphil
SBR Wise Guy
07-12-09
757
#751
next play, PORTLAND, on 2/7?
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jas19illini
SBR Wise Guy
10-27-10
682
#752
yes
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jmjj
SBR High Roller
11-17-10
172
#753
hmmm where's the curator at for this chatter? wow somehow isnt here? imagine that theres a reason why he doesnt sell this folks but hey rock on with it if u like until we win again he may show himself or think up of a way to avoid the loss just like JM does and so forth
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tonycarr
SBR High Roller
12-21-10
155
#754
rough game I am using a labby on this so it didnt hurt that much.
System is still good to me and Ill continue on following it.
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jmjj
SBR High Roller
11-17-10
172
#755
well lets run the real #s here folks b/c some are saying oh we are up and even so on and so forth but actually from day 1 of this season after yesterdays debacle.....we would still be down
so lets say for ex. we are betting to win $100 a series and so far we have had 79 series all winners thats easy math $7900 nice profit right?
thats until u lose a 6 game chance which then equals a nice -$8487 loss to your bankroll after being up $7900 so you would be down -$587 at this point so still think its a good system? still think u are up? please dont lie if u have been betting since series 1 this season then u still would be down fine u wanna go with winning $50 or $10 still would be down doesnt matter I was just using $100 for ex. sake but u guys get my drift
one series loss in my ex. above is in all actuality 77 straight up losses when u do a 6 game chase I hope u guys understand that so u are what 79-77 this yr? hmm not too sexy u know
hey I thought this was an awesome system too but Im just giving u folks real #s not fake ones so people on the thread dont give off that bad info and I dont wanna hear about using some crap people dont care about it or understand like a labby system what is that a dog? lol please come on
if a system is good enough for betting then u need and should be able to play it straight up meaning doing a chase w/o changing the rules and jacking it up to lose less thats lameo
so true the season isnt over but with one loss u wiped out your entire profit and then some for the yr imagine what another loss could do to your roll now right now only being down a little at this point u could lose basically 10g bankroll with a 3 day stretch doing a series with this system folks
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thelimit0310
SBR MVP
01-24-11
1233
#756
Originally posted by jmjj
well lets run the real #s here folks b/c some are saying oh we are up and even so on and so forth but actually from day 1 of this season after yesterdays debacle.....we would still be down
so lets say for ex. we are betting to win $100 a series and so far we have had 79 series all winners thats easy math $7900 nice profit right?
thats until u lose a 6 game chance which then equals a nice -$8487 loss to your bankroll after being up $7900 so you would be down -$587 at this point so still think its a good system? still think u are up? please dont lie if u have been betting since series 1 this season then u still would be down fine u wanna go with winning $50 or $10 still would be down doesnt matter I was just using $100 for ex. sake but u guys get my drift
one series loss in my ex. above is in all actuality 77 straight up losses when u do a 6 game chase I hope u guys understand that so u are what 79-77 this yr? hmm not too sexy u know
hey I thought this was an awesome system too but Im just giving u folks real #s not fake ones so people on the thread dont give off that bad info and I dont wanna hear about using some crap people dont care about it or understand like a labby system what is that a dog? lol please come on
if a system is good enough for betting then u need and should be able to play it straight up meaning doing a chase w/o changing the rules and jacking it up to lose less thats lameo
so true the season isnt over but with one loss u wiped out your entire profit and then some for the yr imagine what another loss could do to your roll now right now only being down a little at this point u could lose basically 10g bankroll with a 3 day stretch doing a series with this system folks
Don't be a fool, if you used a proper labby system you could recoup everything lost from this series by 4-6 wins. You would still be in profit too. I'm not sure about a traditional 6 game chase however, chasing traditionally is stupid. I can't speak for the traditional chasers here, but I can speak for the labby system, and not only would you still be vastly in profit, you would only be about 5 games away from recouping this series' loss.
This system is still great, if you played it right you would still be up a lot of money. Besides, it says right in the first post that the system averages 1 loss per season, this was that loss, you had to know it was going to happen. Don't just jump on a system thinking it will go undefeated. The simple fact is this, your unit sizes were too large for your bankroll and/or you weren't using a labby or similar money management tool.
EX. Betting to WIN $50 for every series. Your profit would be around 3950. This series would put you down roughly $353-429, depending on how you ran your labby. After recalculating your lines based on this series loss, you would only need to win 4-6 games to recoup the loss (again, depending on how you run your labby). I suspect there are about 25 plays or so left this season, so not only does this loss not dip into your initial bankroll, but recouping and continuing to profit would be easy.
On a final note, if there are 25 plays left this season and the system only averages 1 loss, as a $100 bettor that chases traditionally, you would still profit from this system at the end of the season. So, there's not really anything to complain about.
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jmjj
SBR High Roller
11-17-10
172
#757
Originally posted by thelimit0310
Don't be a fool, if you used a proper labby system you could recoup everything lost from this series by 4-6 wins. You would still be in profit too. I'm not sure about a traditional 6 game chase however, chasing traditionally is stupid. I can't speak for the traditional chasers here, but I can speak for the labby system, and not only would you still be vastly in profit, you would only be about 5 games away from recouping this series' loss.
This system is still great, if you played it right you would still be up a lot of money. Besides, it says right in the first post that the system averages 1 loss per season, this was that loss, you had to know it was going to happen. Don't just jump on a system thinking it will go undefeated. The simple fact is this, your unit sizes were too large for your bankroll and/or you weren't using a labby or similar money management tool.
EX. Betting to WIN $50 for every series. Your profit would be around 3950. This series would put you down roughly $353-429, depending on how you ran your labby. After recalculating your lines based on this series loss, you would only need to win 4-6 games to recoup the loss (again, depending on how you run your labby). I suspect there are about 25 plays or so left this season, so not only does this loss not dip into your initial bankroll, but recouping and continuing to profit would be easy.
On a final note, if there are 25 plays left this season and the system only averages 1 loss, as a $100 bettor that chases traditionally, you would still profit from this system at the end of the season. So, there's not really anything to complain about.
my post speaks for itself and it answers all the concerns that anyone such as yourself there dude wants to call it especially since u basically called me a fool as I figured I would get a lot of nay sayers when the truth is represented Im going by what this system truly is and u are supposed to be able to do
its a chase system and if u change it up to say we didnt do this or that then its a bunch of lies and manipulations but thats typical on a internet chat board my #'s above are irefutable
like I said u wouldnt be up now thats all a lie u are now down with a chance to be up possibly later when the season is over like u said no u dont know what it would be if u chased but I do and thats how the system is designed for and supposed to represent and now u would have wiped out all of your profit with that one loss 6 game chase is tough thing to do for sure basically have to never lose specificly with a 6 game chase
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JW Cash
SBR MVP
12-31-08
4453
#758
Originally posted by jmjj
well lets run the real #s here folks b/c some are saying oh we are up and even so on and so forth but actually from day 1 of this season after yesterdays debacle.....we would still be down
so lets say for ex. we are betting to win $100 a series and so far we have had 79 series all winners thats easy math $7900 nice profit right?
thats until u lose a 6 game chance which then equals a nice -$8487 loss to your bankroll after being up $7900 so you would be down -$587 at this point so still think its a good system? still think u are up? please dont lie if u have been betting since series 1 this season then u still would be down fine u wanna go with winning $50 or $10 still would be down doesnt matter I was just using $100 for ex. sake but u guys get my drift
one series loss in my ex. above is in all actuality 77 straight up losses when u do a 6 game chase I hope u guys understand that so u are what 79-77 this yr? hmm not too sexy u know
hey I thought this was an awesome system too but Im just giving u folks real #s not fake ones so people on the thread dont give off that bad info and I dont wanna hear about using some crap people dont care about it or understand like a labby system what is that a dog? lol please come on
if a system is good enough for betting then u need and should be able to play it straight up meaning doing a chase w/o changing the rules and jacking it up to lose less thats lameo
so true the season isnt over but with one loss u wiped out your entire profit and then some for the yr imagine what another loss could do to your roll now right now only being down a little at this point u could lose basically 10g bankroll with a 3 day stretch doing a series with this system folks
Anyone who bets in such a way that 1 LOSS wipes out a whole season
of profit ....
1) is not very smart
2) is actually a fool...
jmjj....just do a Labby....
With my labby....any loss with the Dallas series will be recovered
in future series.....
Oh YEAH.....Thats what I am talking about !!!!
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JW Cash
SBR MVP
12-31-08
4453
#759
I just created another labby line for Game 5 and 6 of the Dallas series.....
..I will clear that with my own system plays...
Life is good.....
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thelimit0310
SBR MVP
01-24-11
1233
#760
JW Cash is right, and so was my original post. People using proper money management and not just straight up chasing are still profiting quite a bit.
@Jmjj
If your figures for the 6 game chase are right, then they are right, and the people following it are down. My post clarified why you SHOULDN'T be doing a 6 game chase. Showing how using proper money management makes this system very profitable. If you didn't know to use a labby that's on you. It was discussed earlier in this thread, and the 3rd or 4th post in the thread also offers a management system that cuts your unit loss for losses in half. If you were following that method, laid out by Solaman himself, you would still be profiting after this loss as well.
Not trying to be rude or call anyone stupid, just trying to show everyone here that sometimes the difference between a lot of profit and no profit is what you use to manage your money.
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bauerranch
SBR Wise Guy
08-01-10
611
#761
Originally posted by jmjj
my post speaks for itself and it answers all the concerns that anyone such as yourself there dude wants to call it especially since u basically called me a fool as I figured I would get a lot of nay sayers when the truth is represented Im going by what this system truly is and u are supposed to be able to do
its a chase system and if u change it up to say we didnt do this or that then its a bunch of lies and manipulations but thats typical on a internet chat board my #'s above are irefutable
like I said u wouldnt be up now thats all a lie u are now down with a chance to be up possibly later when the season is over like u said no u dont know what it would be if u chased but I do and thats how the system is designed for and supposed to represent and now u would have wiped out all of your profit with that one loss 6 game chase is tough thing to do for sure basically have to never lose specificly with a 6 game chase
What's your point?
You compare this to JM and that is absurd.
I like many sent money to JM however not here.
Money management is the key!
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dogs1972
SBR Wise Guy
11-22-09
509
#762
La Douche = no balls.
Defend this system all you want. It's a loser period. The numbers don't lie.
Preach money management all you want, the system AS THE CREATOR DESIGNED IT to be played, is down for the year. Period, end of story, fact.
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SOLAMAN
SBR Wise Guy
03-08-09
624
#763
Comments on the Dal road trip......
Damn!!! Lost the series by one point!!! Last season my one loss was by a half-point.
I thought that I had a shot of a perfect season but I had at least one loss for the last 6 years.
This was my second 6 play loss in 8 years, the others were 5 play losses.
I quess my luck just ran out but I have never had a losing season and plan to be plus units by the end of the season.
So I am back to square one and I plan to make some changes. If you have the limited progression method or some form of the labby, you should be in good shape. I guess that I was too stuborn to adjust from the standard method.
The 3 line labby with the road system.... I looked at the one line labby a couple of years ago but the problem was with multiple plays on the same day. I plan to adjust the road system to make it work with the 3 line labby starting today and this will give me an idea to continue or not with the labby for next season.
Right now, I am still mad as hell but I will get over it!!! And if you lost your ass on the Dal series... I hope you can find it!
I plan not to play any Dal road series for the rest of the season. This is the only road team to cover all halves of the last 3 games of a road trip this season and they done it TWICE! The first was a non-qualifying series.
I will continue to update and post the March schedule for those that are interested.
GOOD LUCK!!
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jas19illini
SBR Wise Guy
10-27-10
682
#764
Yes please post the March schedule. Also, how does the 3 line labby work? Ive never used one, but was researching a little today and am gonna stat using a labby, but ive never heard of a 3 line labby.
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EasyHustlin
SBR Wise Guy
07-15-10
633
#765
Originally posted by dogs1972
La Douche = no balls.
Defend this system all you want. It's a loser period. The numbers don't lie.
Preach money management all you want, the system AS THE CREATOR DESIGNED IT to be played, is down for the year. Period, end of story, fact.
No, its not "end of story," considering a handful of us have been critical of the 6 game chase and have instead been using labouchere to soften the losses, and we are up a lot of money because of money management. I realize some of you are basically robots and are incapable of improving upon an existing system; I don't see how that's our problem. I look forward to the haters going bye bye, they offer nothing to this thread anyway. Talk all the shit you want, how about you look at the rate the A bets are winning and have the balls to say this system is no good.
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Kev the Brit
SBR MVP
10-25-09
2027
#766
jmjj:
so lets say for ex. we are betting to win $100 a series and so far we have had 79 series all winners thats easy math $7900 nice profit right?
thats until u lose a 6 game chance which then equals a nice -$8487 loss to your bankroll after being up $7900 so you would be down -$587 at this point so still think its a good system?
no argument there. However, your figures suggest that the bettor will be back in profit within 6 series.
And, if he is really confident about the rarity of the loss, he could rack up his next 20 series to 4 units and recover the loss quite quickly.
Kev
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thelimit0310
SBR MVP
01-24-11
1233
#767
Originally posted by dogs1972
La Douche = no balls.
Defend this system all you want. It's a loser period. The numbers don't lie.
Preach money management all you want, the system AS THE CREATOR DESIGNED IT to be played, is down for the year. Period, end of story, fact.
Playing the system as the creator designed it was stupid, 6 game chase? You did know you would more likely than not lose a game with this system, didn't you? If you followed Labby OR the progression management Solaman posted at the beginning of the thread, you would not be down units. Even if you are down units, there are enough plays left this season to bring you back to profit. Solaman has profited every season with this system, it's not a loser, just play it smart. My post earlier SHOWED you the numbers, and your right, they don't lie.
The Labby Method is a proven money management method and works with all sports and roulette, it has been around forever. Anyone participating in a chase system should use it. That's the end of this story.
I know it sucks now, but if you follow this system, even as a chase, you should still profit by the end, just as Solaman said.
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thelimit0310
SBR MVP
01-24-11
1233
#768
Originally posted by Kev the Brit
jmjj:no argument there. However, your figures suggest that the bettor will be back in profit within 6 series.
And, if he is really confident about the rarity of the loss, he could rack up his next 20 series to 4 units and recover the loss quite quickly.
Kev
This is the main difference between chasing and using a labby - using the labby, in 4-6 series you will recover the loss for this bet, but still overall be in profit regardless. Using the chase, in 6 series' you will only be starting to profit again. This means that by the end of the season everyone following will profit, however the people using the Labby will have a much higher profit margin.
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jas19illini
SBR Wise Guy
10-27-10
682
#769
Follow up to my previous question.....So with a 3 line labby, would you have 1 line for game 1, 1 line for game 2, etc? Id like to figure this out before tomorrow's Bulls series starts. Thanks guys.
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jmjj
SBR High Roller
11-17-10
172
#770
Originally posted by dogs1972
La Douche = no balls.
Defend this system all you want. It's a loser period. The numbers don't lie.
Preach money management all you want, the system AS THE CREATOR DESIGNED IT to be played, is down for the year. Period, end of story, fact.
thank u dogs about time someone has some common sense THESE SYSTEMS YOU RAG ON!!!! guys or me about b/c I dont do your douche betting or whatever
they are meant to chase and thats what the owner and creators of them say do it to do period the end folks (yes just like JM says to do in the pdf file) so what are u saying u make fun of the creators and dont wanna follow them properly but yet say there betting style is flawed when u lose? sure whatever makes sense
u are missing the f ucking point when u have to change up your betting pattern to "supposedly" make any money so quit making things up about labby and bulls hit like that when u chase a 6 game series and it loses costs u greatly on your bankroll thats it the #s are true and thats it theres no arguement b/c u cant dispute my numbers folks b/c they are right