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  • SexyMit
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-12-06
    • 6139

    #386
    IF your going by Brandon Roy being out he has been out longer then a week! When a starter has been out longer then a week there is a new starter taking his place!
    If it seems to good to be true it usually is!!

    I have a natural instinct to exploit market ineffieciencies!!
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    • barts185
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 12-13-09
      • 815

      #387
      Originally posted by aoz1122
      Brandon Roy has not been a starter for a while (now listed as 3rd string) and hasnt really been a factor or played for Portland since the beginning of January. Personally, I feel that is significant enough time for the lines to adjust and for him to not be considered in the injury filter. Of course, as always, the injury filter decision is up for debate, but for me, I am calling this a play.

      Good luck to everyone no matter what you decide.
      Not debating the play, just wondering where you see him listed as 3rd string? Is this because of the injury, or is there some site saying he was their third string?

      He played up until January 13th when he logged 27 minutes. In every January Portland game before that, he logged 38 minutes or more (usually above 40).


      Thanks,
      Bart
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      • aoz1122
        SBR Hustler
        • 11-13-09
        • 84

        #388
        ESPN.com has updated depth charts, they also have game longs for every game showing player stats for every game. Go to the team page on ESPN.com
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        • NBAStats
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 01-18-10
          • 665

          #389
          He is obviously listed on the depth chart like that because of injury.
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          • og4667
            SBR MVP
            • 09-17-09
            • 2438

            #390
            FYI...the last system loss was on the Suns @ Utah as 7 pt dogs and Utah covered. Today the system picks the Blazers @ Utah so good luck if you play it. I think the downside of the system is that it can't measure home court advantage in a place like Utah.
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            • barts185
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 12-13-09
              • 815

              #391
              Originally posted by og4667
              FYI...the last system loss was on the Suns @ Utah as 7 pt dogs and Utah covered. Today the system picks the Blazers @ Utah so good luck if you play it. I think the downside of the system is that it can't measure home court advantage in a place like Utah.
              I agree that home court advantage is NOT the same for all teams. A recent article calculated Utah's home court advantage at 5. If you use that, this would come out as no play. But, the system says 3, so that's what is used.
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              • jakeandba
                SBR MVP
                • 01-13-09
                • 1033

                #392
                Barts are you playing portland tonight?
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                • barts185
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 12-13-09
                  • 815

                  #393
                  Originally posted by jakeandba
                  Barts are you playing portland tonight?
                  Yes, but I'm playing them for about 1/4 of what I normally play on these plays.
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                  • Airjoe30jb
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 01-17-10
                    • 87

                    #394
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                    • Hawk007
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-26-09
                      • 2492

                      #395
                      Thanks Bart!

                      Gonna pass on this one, just doesnt feel right.....GL!
                      NCAA Basketball
                      '08-'09 (12-8) 60%
                      '09-'10 (63-46) 58%
                      WNBA
                      '10 (45-29) 64%
                      CFL
                      '10 (20-18)
                      NCAAF
                      '10 (16-7)
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                      • og4667
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-17-09
                        • 2438

                        #396
                        Originally posted by barts185
                        I agree that home court advantage is NOT the same for all teams. A recent article calculated Utah's home court advantage at 5. If you use that, this would come out as no play. But, the system says 3, so that's what is used.


                        That is great info. for the system's sake this will should be an official play but as always this info should only validate your own decisions.
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                        • bigboyfosho
                          SBR MVP
                          • 02-19-09
                          • 1576

                          #397
                          good info
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                          • Niko
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 03-24-08
                            • 185

                            #398
                            I'm watching you're tracking, tracking... could anyone to post current record?
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                            • og4667
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-17-09
                              • 2438

                              #399
                              current record 14-4
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                              • Welt446+
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 12-04-09
                                • 185

                                #400
                                Looks like the Rockets +5 for Feb 5th
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                                • incomeraise
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-28-09
                                  • 1136

                                  #401
                                  i have been waiting 2 long to jump on, i think its time now...
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                                  • JimmerJammer
                                    SBR Hustler
                                    • 01-11-10
                                    • 72

                                    #402
                                    let's do this
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                                    • owll52
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 02-07-09
                                      • 131

                                      #403
                                      Barts185 Spreadsheet

                                      What happened to Barts spreadsheet? When I tried to run it this morning it would not open.
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                                      • JohnAnthony
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 04-30-09
                                        • 5110

                                        #404
                                        Originally posted by Welt446+
                                        Looks like the Rockets +5 for Feb 5th
                                        Can anyone confirm this?
                                        "I have never seen a wild thing feel sorry for itself. A little bird will fall dead, frozen from a bough, without ever having felt sorry for itself."

                                        - D.H. Lawrence
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                                        • AdaBarber
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-05-08
                                          • 4424

                                          #405
                                          Originally posted by JohnAnthony
                                          Can anyone confirm this?
                                          They both have the same record and anyway you shake it (+/-3 home) this is not a play.
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                                          • JohnAnthony
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 04-30-09
                                            • 5110

                                            #406
                                            Originally posted by AdaBarber
                                            They both have the same record and anyway you shake it (+/-3 home) this is not a play.
                                            Huh? the line is @ +5.
                                            "I have never seen a wild thing feel sorry for itself. A little bird will fall dead, frozen from a bough, without ever having felt sorry for itself."

                                            - D.H. Lawrence
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                                            • AdaBarber
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-05-08
                                              • 4424

                                              #407
                                              Originally posted by JohnAnthony
                                              Huh? the line is @ +5.
                                              I know that. You have to put the home advantage in the equation. They both have the same record. Either way you input it doesn't come out to be over 10 to make it a play.
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                                              • JohnAnthony
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 04-30-09
                                                • 5110

                                                #408
                                                Originally posted by AdaBarber
                                                I know that. You have to put the home advantage in the equation. They both have the same record. Either way you input it doesn't come out to be over 10 to make it a play.
                                                I understand. Thanks for taking the time to explain this
                                                "I have never seen a wild thing feel sorry for itself. A little bird will fall dead, frozen from a bough, without ever having felt sorry for itself."

                                                - D.H. Lawrence
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                                                • francescosol
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 08-26-08
                                                  • 225

                                                  #409
                                                  Hi. About me Rockets is the play today.
                                                  542-542=0 /20 = 0 +3 (home team) = 3 - 5 (spread) = -2
                                                  Play the other ATS. Away team is a play if there are no important injures
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                                                  • AdaBarber
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-05-08
                                                    • 4424

                                                    #410
                                                    Originally posted by JohnAnthony
                                                    I understand. Thanks for taking the time to explain this
                                                    U r welcome. I used the spreadsheet provided by Mundane and it came out to be 2 and an 8 depending on who you use for the home winning team.
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                                                    • AdaBarber
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-05-08
                                                      • 4424

                                                      #411
                                                      Originally posted by francescosol
                                                      Hi. About me Rockets is the play today.
                                                      542-542=0 /20 = 0 +3 (home team) = 3 - 5 (spread) = -2
                                                      Play the other ATS. Away team is a play if there are no important injures
                                                      Maybe the spreadsheet I used is not calculated correctly. I will try again.
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                                                      • francescosol
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 08-26-08
                                                        • 225

                                                        #412
                                                        Originally posted by AdaBarber
                                                        Maybe the spreadsheet I used is not calculated correctly. I will try again.
                                                        let me know... we must be 100% sure that Rockets is the play today and its better control this by more possible persons
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                                                        • AdaBarber
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-05-08
                                                          • 4424

                                                          #413
                                                          Originally posted by francescosol
                                                          Hi. About me Rockets is the play today.
                                                          542-542=0 /20 = 0 +3 (home team) = 3 - 5 (spread) = -2
                                                          Play the other ATS. Away team is a play if there are no important injures
                                                          Since they both have the same record who is the team to use? If you use Houston as the better team then it comes out:

                                                          542-542=0 /20 = 0 -3(away team) = -3 + 5(spread) = 2 No Play

                                                          So is there a rule for two teams with the same record?
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                                                          • aoz1122
                                                            SBR Hustler
                                                            • 11-13-09
                                                            • 84

                                                            #414
                                                            I am inclined to agree this could be a play. The system basically gives the home team a 3 point advantage ATS, and in this case with all other things being equal, the lines makers are giving Houston, the visiting team, 5 points, so in the math of this system, I say that makes them a play. OF course everyone use your own discretion, but I say mathematically, it is a play.
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                                                            • francescosol
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 08-26-08
                                                              • 225

                                                              #415
                                                              Originally posted by aoz1122
                                                              I am inclined to agree this could be a play. The system basically gives the home team a 3 point advantage ATS, and in this case with all other things being equal, the lines makers are giving Houston, the visiting team, 5 points, so in the math of this system, I say that makes them a play. OF course everyone use your own discretion, but I say mathematically, it is a play.
                                                              agree

                                                              but better wait the opinion from experts
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                                                              • aoz1122
                                                                SBR Hustler
                                                                • 11-13-09
                                                                • 84

                                                                #416
                                                                Here are my numbers for today:


                                                                02/05/10 A Washington 12 16 32 33.333333% NO -8.0068
                                                                02/05/10 H Orlando -12 33 16 67.346939% YES 8.0068

                                                                02/05/10 A Detroit 3.5 16 31 34.042553% NO 0.1743
                                                                02/05/10 H Indiana -3.5 17 32 34.693878% YES -0.1743

                                                                02/05/10 A New Jersey 13 4 44 8.333333% NO -18.8121
                                                                02/05/10 H Boston -13 31 16 65.957447% YES 18.8121
                                                                NO PLAY, D.D. SPREAD


                                                                02/05/10 A Milwaukee 2.5 21 26 44.680851% YES 2.0488
                                                                02/05/10 H New York -2.5 19 29 39.583333% NO -2.0488

                                                                02/05/10 A Chicago 8 23 24 48.936170% NO -2.8236
                                                                02/05/10 H Atlanta -8 31 17 64.583333% YES 2.8236

                                                                02/05/10 A Houston 5 26 22 54.166667% NO* 2.0000
                                                                02/05/10 H Memphis -5 26 22 54.166667% NO* -2.0000
                                                                RECCOMEND PLAY HOUSTON +5


                                                                02/05/10 A Philadelphia 2.5 17 31 35.416667% NO-9.3223
                                                                02/05/10 H New Orleans -2.5 26 23 53.061224% YES 9.3223

                                                                02/05/10 A Minnesota 10.5 11 36 23.404255% NO -12.4305
                                                                02/05/10 H Dallas -10.5 31 18 63.265306% YES 12.4305
                                                                NO PLAY, D.D. SPREAD

                                                                02/05/10 A Phoenix -3 30 21 58.823529% YES 6.7451
                                                                02/05/10 H Sacramento 3 16 32 33.333333% NO -6.7451

                                                                02/05/10 A Denver 8.5 33 16 67.346939% NO 1.1735
                                                                02/05/10 H LA Lakers -8.5 38 12 76.000000% YES -1.1735
                                                                NO PLAY ON DENVER, BILLUPS & ANTHONY INJURED
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                                                                • francescosol
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 08-26-08
                                                                  • 225

                                                                  #417
                                                                  Originally posted by AdaBarber
                                                                  Since they both have the same record who is the team to use? If you use Houston as the better team then it comes out:

                                                                  542-542=0 /20 = 0 -3(away team) = -3 + 5(spread) = 2 No Play

                                                                  So is there a rule for two teams with the same record?
                                                                  you are right. i also verify this.
                                                                  but i think we must take as selected team, the team give points (memphis -5)
                                                                  with Memphis as selected team, the system work
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                                                                  • Gopi-1
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 01-27-10
                                                                    • 952

                                                                    #418
                                                                    Originally posted by aoz1122
                                                                    Here are my numbers for today:


                                                                    02/05/10 A Washington 12 16 32 33.333333% NO -8.0068
                                                                    02/05/10 H Orlando -12 33 16 67.346939% YES 8.0068

                                                                    02/05/10 A Detroit 3.5 16 31 34.042553% NO 0.1743
                                                                    02/05/10 H Indiana -3.5 17 32 34.693878% YES -0.1743

                                                                    02/05/10 A New Jersey 13 4 44 8.333333% NO -18.8121
                                                                    02/05/10 H Boston -13 31 16 65.957447% YES 18.8121
                                                                    NO PLAY, D.D. SPREAD


                                                                    02/05/10 A Milwaukee 2.5 21 26 44.680851% YES 2.0488
                                                                    02/05/10 H New York -2.5 19 29 39.583333% NO -2.0488

                                                                    02/05/10 A Chicago 8 23 24 48.936170% NO -2.8236
                                                                    02/05/10 H Atlanta -8 31 17 64.583333% YES 2.8236

                                                                    02/05/10 A Houston 5 26 22 54.166667% NO* 2.0000
                                                                    02/05/10 H Memphis -5 26 22 54.166667% NO* -2.0000
                                                                    RECCOMEND PLAY HOUSTON +5


                                                                    02/05/10 A Philadelphia 2.5 17 31 35.416667% NO-9.3223
                                                                    02/05/10 H New Orleans -2.5 26 23 53.061224% YES 9.3223

                                                                    02/05/10 A Minnesota 10.5 11 36 23.404255% NO -12.4305
                                                                    02/05/10 H Dallas -10.5 31 18 63.265306% YES 12.4305
                                                                    NO PLAY, D.D. SPREAD

                                                                    02/05/10 A Phoenix -3 30 21 58.823529% YES 6.7451
                                                                    02/05/10 H Sacramento 3 16 32 33.333333% NO -6.7451

                                                                    02/05/10 A Denver 8.5 33 16 67.346939% NO 1.1735
                                                                    02/05/10 H LA Lakers -8.5 38 12 76.000000% YES -1.1735
                                                                    NO PLAY ON DENVER, BILLUPS & ANTHONY INJURED

                                                                    Billups' injury is confirmed and won't play tonight?
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                                                                    • aoz1122
                                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                                      • 11-13-09
                                                                      • 84

                                                                      #419
                                                                      Originally posted by francescosol
                                                                      agree but better wait the opinion from experts
                                                                      Who are the experts? I do have an education and experience in mathematics and statistics, so I am pretty sure I have a good grip on what the math in this system actually represents. The math in this system is simply pointing out where the posted lines are not coinciding with the winning % of the teams playing, pointing out an advantage one way or another based on the winning %'s of each team. So I believe the system, in and of itself, says to play Houston +5.

                                                                      However, there is a flip side to this coin. I have been developing a statistical system of my own for betting NBA games which looks more in depth and splits the winning % up by home and road games. In this case, Houston is 45.833% on the road and Memphis is 75% at home. In this scenario Memphis is the clear favorite, even giving up 5 points. See Below:

                                                                      A Houston 5 11 13 45.833333% NO -12.5833
                                                                      H Memphis -5 18 6 75.000000% YES 12.5833

                                                                      ...Just a little something to chew on...
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                                                                      • aoz1122
                                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                                        • 11-13-09
                                                                        • 84

                                                                        #420
                                                                        Originally posted by Gopi-1
                                                                        Billups' injury is confirmed and won't play tonight?
                                                                        Billups is listes as DTD, but I think he will probably play. Carmelo though will not play tonight.
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