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  • Vaughany
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 03-07-10
    • 45563

    #561
    Originally posted by lasker
    You never have a losing night, do ya? Good work Vaugh, especially on leading the Stann brigade. Excellent call.
    Grazie Sir, ha well not for a while but it's bound to happen soon! Stann is the man...should of had more confidence in his knockout power especially with Leben's complete lack of footwork and head movement, I just thought that a decision was a lot more likely as I expected him to be a lot more cautious, rely on cardio and not engage near as much as he ended up doing. Clearly had a lot of confidence in his own ability to beat Leben to the punch and use his 3 and half inch reach advantage to good effect.
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    • Shagdogy
      SBR MVP
      • 06-16-10
      • 3564

      #562
      Good stuff V. Steady profits.
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      • Vaughany
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 03-07-10
        • 45563

        #563
        Originally posted by Shagdogy
        Good stuff V. Steady profits.
        Cheers dude, last night was an awesome card I thought...and just wen I thought I couldnt hang off Frankie's nuts anymore he goes pulls off the most amazing comeback ever! The guy is beyond legendary!
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        • Poppa Catfish
          SBR MVP
          • 09-22-10
          • 3352

          #564
          Remember that stuff about not declaring a winner in the Edgar Maynard fight? We were 100% correct


          Another event and another positive number, got to love it
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          • snake11eyes
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 07-28-10
            • 618

            #565
            Nice job buddy way to start 11. Keep it up.
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            • Shagdogy
              SBR MVP
              • 06-16-10
              • 3564

              #566
              Originally posted by Vaughany
              ...and just wen I thought I couldnt hang off Frankie's nuts anymore he goes pulls off the most amazing comeback ever! The guy is beyond legendary!
              Edgar's guts and chin combination in the first round were unreal. We've never really seen him like that before. Now that we know the true strength of his chin, and his resiliency, it's gonna be hard to bet against him again. I thought that Edgar won that fight personally. I would have given him rounds 2-5 (I subscribe to the whole "gotta beat the champ" thing, which Maynard only did decisively in the first). The draw wasn't the worst judging ever though. What do you do now with Pettis? Does he get the next fight, or do you have to rematch first? I'd like to see the Pettis/Edgar fight more, but I think you've gotta let Gray and Frankie settle this one first.
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              • Jordan23
                SBR MVP
                • 04-26-10
                • 1227

                #567
                Good job last night man. Looking forward to fight for the troops.
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                • Chairib
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 03-08-10
                  • 917

                  #568
                  I had written up my thoughts about some of these fights for you and ill but the sbr servers are trying to keep me down.

                  My apologies.
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                  • Vaughany
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 03-07-10
                    • 45563

                    #569
                    Sengoku Soul of Fight & Dream Dynamite Results: +1.354 units

                    UFC 125 Results: +3.095 units


                    Total Profit since Aug 26th 2010: +73.773 units
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                    • Pride>UFC
                      Restricted User
                      • 11-09-09
                      • 1013

                      #570
                      Originally posted by Vaughany
                      Sengoku Soul of Fight & Dream Dynamite Results: +1.354 units UFC 125 Results: +3.095 units Total Profit since Aug 26th 2010: +73.773 units
                      In all honesty, just by reading your posts...you seem pretty good...but if you do this I promise you'll do much better...Stop hedging your own bets! Trust your instincts.
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                      • Poppa Catfish
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-22-10
                        • 3352

                        #571
                        I thought arbing and good hedges was how he made most of his money, and you want him to stop doing that?
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                        • lasker
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-27-10
                          • 1683

                          #572
                          I actually think it's an alternative worth tracking, at least with the straddles. By all means keep betting them, since you're doing so well, but maybe also keep track of which one you would have bet if you had only bet one side. Keep records of that for a while and see which method is more profitable for you long-term. Just as an experiment/test, and whatever the results it will give you more confidence which way to bet when you're on the fence.
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                          • Vaughany
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 03-07-10
                            • 45563

                            #573
                            As Poppa says I have made most my profits from arbing and prop-hedges. And with all the dodgy decisions that go on I am hesistant to bet outright on one fighter when I feel his opponent has a good chance of taking a decision simply because of how there style will be looked upon favourably by judges. For instance my play on Lil Heathen against Guillard was saved by a Guillard by decision hedge. Yeah good points Lask and I've been meaning to do something like that for a while. And now that I've reached over 70 units profit I will be making more straight-up plays with bigger stakes. This of course will mean more risk than if I did a hedge, but also more potential profit margin, and as I've made a bit of money now I think I can start doing that. Also, in the last couple UFC events I have been experimenting a bit more with the "KO of the Night" and "Sub of the Night" type props which havn't really proven to be very fruitful except for Guida Sub of the Night the other night, and I had GSP/Koscheck Fight of the Night at UFC124 but what I won from that only cancelled out my other plays on SOTN, FOTN, AND KOTN that I didnt win.
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                            • Vaughany
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 03-07-10
                              • 45563

                              #574
                              Originally posted by Shagdogy
                              Edgar's guts and chin combination in the first round were unreal. We've never really seen him like that before. Now that we know the true strength of his chin, and his resiliency, it's gonna be hard to bet against him again. I thought that Edgar won that fight personally. I would have given him rounds 2-5 (I subscribe to the whole "gotta beat the champ" thing, which Maynard only did decisively in the first). The draw wasn't the worst judging ever though. What do you do now with Pettis? Does he get the next fight, or do you have to rematch first? I'd like to see the Pettis/Edgar fight more, but I think you've gotta let Gray and Frankie settle this one first.
                              Yeah was an unbelievable display of heart, almost made me weep with pride! As much as a Frankie nuthugger as I am I dont think u could give that fight to Frankie. Im not sure were I saw it, maybe Ariel Helwani's interview with Dana, but they wer sayin how if that wasnt a 10-7 round then a 10-7 is obsolete and cant exist, which I'd have to agree with. If Edgar had done that to Maynard and then only got a 10-8 and the fight ended a draw or Maynard won a split I'd of been spittin out my dummy and moaning about how it wasnt a 10-7! But nontheless I believe he deserved a draw just because of the heart he showed!

                              Originally posted by Jordan23
                              Good job last night man. Looking forward to fight for the troops.
                              Cheer bro, yeah if it's anything like the last Fight for the Troops event this one should be awesome! Based on the last one and what happened it seems almost as if the fighters' masculinity, aggression, patriarchy, and sheer ruthlessness was ignited in the presence of all those soldies and War Heroes, and consequently lead to some brutal finishes (Koscheck KO'ing Yoshida, Swick over Goulet, Saunders creating the biggest hematoma on Brandon Wolffs head I've ever seen, Corey Hill's sick leg injury, and Cantwell snappin Al-Hassans arm! I believe only 3 of the 10 fights at that event went to decision with only 1 going to decision on main card which is considerably low, however I think a couple of the events before and after that Fight for the Troops card also only had 3 fights go to decision, so probably shouldnt read too much into that!


                              Originally posted by Chairib
                              I had written up my thoughts about some of these fights for you and ill but the sbr servers are trying to keep me down. My apologies.
                              Ah no worries man... they cant stop the truth from coming out forever! Cole Miller vs Wiman could be a good one to break down for the next card? I dont really know who Im leaning towards on that one but I have a feeling that Wiman might come out undervalued in the betting lines Like a play on it going to decision if better then Evens odds as well. Both tough dudes who can take a punch and my initial thoughts are that Wiman has good enough grappling to avoid being subbed by Cole.
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                              • Vaughany
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 03-07-10
                                • 45563

                                #575
                                Early UFC 126 Plays:

                                2.195 units on Griffin/Franklin to decision at +120 to win 2.634 units (plus stake), and 0.43 units on Griffin/Franklin to decision at Evens to win 0.43 units (plus stake);

                                0.5 units on Jon Jones by decision at +400 to win 2 units (plus stake).
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                                • lasker
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-27-10
                                  • 1683

                                  #576
                                  unbelievable, these lines you get! Love Jones by decision +400 as well, but of course on 5dimes it will be probably be closer to +200
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                                  • Vaughany
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 03-07-10
                                    • 45563

                                    #577
                                    ha yeah I was expecting them to bring Franklin/Griffin to decision out at least at -125, especially seeing as they've tightened up a lot with their prop bets recently. And yeah I expect the US books to have Bones by decision at +200 to +300 range. Paddy seem to be favouring the TKO/KO finish in favour of Bones and Franklin big time - Bones is -137.5 and Franklin +150.
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                                    • sirchadwick1
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 06-02-10
                                      • 1375

                                      #578
                                      Vaughany, I always enjoy reading your writeups and analysis. What book do you get the FOTN, SOTN, etc. prop bets at?
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                                      • Vaughany
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 03-07-10
                                        • 45563

                                        #579
                                        Originally posted by sirchadwick1
                                        Vaughany, I always enjoy reading your writeups and analysis. What book do you get the FOTN, SOTN, etc. prop bets at?
                                        Cheers bro, will be doing a couple write-ups as soon as some of the odds for Fight for the Troops are out. Most of my props and SOTN, FOTN etc... have been through paddypower as they tend to bring them out earliest. Sometimes use other UK based online books (depending on the odds) such as Stanjames, WilliamHill (tend to be best for the SOTN, KOTN and FOTN value) and Skybet. Also now have accounts with Sportbet and Pinnacle so tend to use them now for most my bets and will be even more reliant on them now that Paddypower are restricting how much I can put on!
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                                        • Jordan23
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 04-26-10
                                          • 1227

                                          #580
                                          Good luck on 126.. Do you have any early leans for a parlay?
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                                          • JediMind87
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 10-04-10
                                            • 45

                                            #581
                                            Originally posted by Vaughany
                                            Sengoku Soul of Fight & Dream Dynamite Results: +1.354 units

                                            UFC 125 Results: +3.095 units


                                            Total Profit since Aug 26th 2010: +73.773 units
                                            WOW, your a beast.Good Job.

                                            I might withdraw my 401k $$$ and put it on Hominick since youre backing him lol
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                                            • Vaughany
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 03-07-10
                                              • 45563

                                              #582
                                              Originally posted by Jordan23
                                              Good luck on 126.. Do you have any early leans for a parlay?
                                              Cheers I like Ellenberger, Anderson and Pierce to win for sure but they're rather chalky so may have to parlay those three. When I do parlays though I try to spread them out over a number of events so that I have the option of hedging, so may mix up some Fight For the Troops fights (Mitrione, Barry) with 126 (Ellenberger, Anderson, Pierce, Mendes) and 127 (Fitch, Bisping).
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                                              • Vaughany
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 03-07-10
                                                • 45563

                                                #583
                                                Originally posted by JediMind87
                                                WOW, your a beast.Good Job.

                                                I might withdraw my 401k $$$ and put it on Hominick since youre backing him lol
                                                Thank you Sir! Ha Im almost so confident about Hominick that it's one of those that's bound to go wrong! I really dont see any facet where Hominick is at a disadvantage apart from the reach advantage that Roop will have. However, I expect this fight to look very similar to Wineland vs Roop where Wineland just tooled with Roop for 3 rounds as if he was in a sparring session. Add the fact that Hominick has an underrated submission game so even if Roop takes him down like he did against Garcia he may well end up on his back due to Hominick's sweeps and then arm barred or arm-triangled. Hominick has apparently been working extra hard on his wrestling as well at Brock University with Sean Pierson (who was National Freestyle Champ there and we all saw how well he did against Riddle). Unfortuntely I dont expect Hominick to come out undervalued like he did agaisnt Garcia and presume he'll be at least -200 favourite.
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                                                • ddream1
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 02-18-10
                                                  • 695

                                                  #584
                                                  agreed V. waiting on that line aswell.
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                                                  • Ewoi
                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                    • 08-23-09
                                                    • 57

                                                    #585
                                                    I think Roop is a tough fight for Mark Hominick. He is much bigger and has better wrestling to control Mark. He has the reach and height advantage like you mentioned. Also, Roop has Shawn Tompkins in his corner who knows Mark's game very well. Although having Tompkins in his corner might be a disadvantage as we saw in Horodecki's last fight. So I'd lean on Hominick but he's far from being a lock.
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                                                    • Vaughany
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 03-07-10
                                                      • 45563

                                                      #586
                                                      Originally posted by Ewoi
                                                      I think Roop is a tough fight for Mark Hominick. He is much bigger and has better wrestling to control Mark. He has the reach and height advantage like you mentioned. Also, Roop has Shawn Tompkins in his corner who knows Mark's game very well. Although having Tompkins in his corner might be a disadvantage as we saw in Horodecki's last fight. So I'd lean on Hominick but he's far from being a lock.
                                                      Where have u heard that Tompkins is going to be in Roops corner? Hominick has just gone to Vegas to train with Tompkins for the final couple of weeks of his training!
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                                                      • Ewoi
                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                        • 08-23-09
                                                        • 57

                                                        #587
                                                        My mistake, I was re-watching the Roop vs Jung fight and saw Tompkins in his corner and forgot that Tompkins is still training with Mark. Anyways, its interesting that they both train under Tompkins and I'm sure that they have sparred together. I think Roop should recognize that he is at a disadvantage in terms of the stand-up aspect and shall try his hardest to take Mark down. But Mark has been working in his grappling as you mentioned.
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                                                        • Vaughany
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 03-07-10
                                                          • 45563

                                                          #588
                                                          Very squarish parlay!:

                                                          Parlay: 0.837 units on Mitrione, Barry, Hominick, & Ellenberger to win 2.17 units (plus stake).
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                                                          • Vaughany
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 03-07-10
                                                            • 45563

                                                            #589
                                                            Not the odds I was hoping for but:

                                                            2.5 units on Hominick at -224 to win 1.116 units (plus stake).
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                                                            • Vaughany
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 03-07-10
                                                              • 45563

                                                              #590
                                                              1 unit on Wiman at +190 to win 1.9 units (plus stake).
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                                                              • Vaughany
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 03-07-10
                                                                • 45563

                                                                #591
                                                                Added:

                                                                0.4 units on Mitrione by Decision at +333 to win 1.333 units (plus stake);

                                                                0.211 units on Wiman by KO at +750 to win 1.582 units (plus stake);

                                                                0.2 units on Hominick by Submission at +400 to win 0.8 units (plus stake);

                                                                0.05 units on Beltran by Submission at +1400 to win 0.7 units (plus stake).
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                                                                • lasker
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-27-10
                                                                  • 1683

                                                                  #592
                                                                  Wiman by KO/TKO +750? What are these guys smoking?

                                                                  Beltran by submission +1400 is also nice, considering he's up against a guy with no submission defense but superior striking, someone Beltran may have to try to take down at some point.
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                                                                  • gym rat
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 01-25-07
                                                                    • 476

                                                                    #593
                                                                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                    Added:

                                                                    0.4 units on Mitrione by Decision at +333 to win 1.333 units (plus stake);

                                                                    0.211 units on Wiman by KO at +750 to win 1.582 units (plus stake);

                                                                    0.2 units on Hominick by Submission at +400 to win 0.8 units (plus stake);

                                                                    0.05 units on Beltran by Submission at +1400 to win 0.7 units (plus stake).
                                                                    What sportsbook has these odds? European Book?
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                                                                    • Vaughany
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 03-07-10
                                                                      • 45563

                                                                      #594
                                                                      Originally posted by gym rat
                                                                      What sportsbook has these odds? European Book?
                                                                      Yeah Paddypower.
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                                                                      • Vaughany
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                                        • 45563

                                                                        #595
                                                                        Originally posted by lasker
                                                                        Wiman by KO/TKO +750? What are these guys smoking?

                                                                        Beltran by submission +1400 is also nice, considering he's up against a guy with no submission defense but superior striking, someone Beltran may have to try to take down at some point.
                                                                        Yee I dont expect to see Wiman by TKO/KO at +750 on bookmaker or sportbet/5dimes! Would of put more on but that was the pitiful max limit that Paddy have set for me They're favouring Miller by sub big time at +150. Wiman by decision is +320 which is also interesting and -120 for the fight to go distance.

                                                                        Beltran looks in his best shape yet and I feel should try and get this fight to the ground as quickly as possible and try and get a sub. Unfortunetly, I doutb that this will happen based on what he is sayin in pre-fight interviews that he wants to stand and bang with Barry as that's what the troops want to see! Hopefully he'll take a leg kick or two and soon change is mind! Nontheless I feel +1400 is decent value, especially seeing as theyve got Barry by Sub at +1000!

                                                                        With regards to the Hominick by Sub play at +400, I feel that the most likely outcome of this fight is Hominick by decision (which Paddy have at +120). Roop is very tough and durable (never been TKO'd or KO'd) and Im not sure if Hominick will be able to finish him by TKO either. However, if Hominick does land one of his trademark livershots (and he has said in a pre-fight interview that gettin inside and delivering body shots are gonna be his main weapon in this fight) he could well fold Roop over leading to a submission possibility. Roop has had trouble with submissions in the past, he lost to Phillipe Nover in the first round of his TUF fight by sub, and he got armbarred twice and choked out once by three unknowns earlier on in his career. Roop may also look for the takedown against Hominick which will only further lead him in to danger as Hominick has an underated ground game. He showed he can sweep even after gettin knocked down by Jabouin in their fight, and he has submitted Savant Young, Yves Edwards and Bryan Caraway in the past.
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