Bjpenn85s 100 unit in 2016 if not im done with SBR-O thread
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Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
- 04-14-16
- 14140
#351Comment -
xagonzxSBR Sharp
- 04-26-16
- 283
#352Bisping -3.5 would be better value for sure, but I doubt the line for that will be out before Saturday and I feel good about Porier so I decided to pull the trigger now.Comment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
- 04-14-16
- 14140
#353One thing you can to solve this problem is making an open parlay. That means you take create a parlay with some selections that are currently on the board and select the option to have open spaces in the parlay so you can finish it later. For instance, since I like the value on Poirier I made two 3-team open parlays that consist of Poirier and 2 open spots. When I find other selections I like later in the year, I can add them to that parlay. I'll probably add Bisping -3.5 to one of them when that prop comes out in a few weeks.Comment -
bjpenn85SBR Hall of Famer
- 02-17-11
- 5059
#354This option was stripped at least for me approx 4 weeks ago. Constructing parlays are quite difficult now in comparison, i am pretty conservative with parlays. I do like the Brunson/Poirier parlay though, it should hit.Comment -
getlucky2winSBR MVP
- 01-14-12
- 1118
#355Yeah it's funny that they cut winners off of open parlays and open teasers. And cut limits. then eventually boot u. The teasers are what really hurt as I don't bet many parlays. But i bet fckloads of teasersComment -
bjpenn85SBR Hall of Famer
- 02-17-11
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xagonzxSBR Sharp
- 04-26-16
- 283
#357I forgot you had mentioned being restricted on parlays, sorry!
A teaser is used for spread-betting (basketball, football mainly). It's a parlay, with an enhanced line for the spread but a lower payout.
For a random example, making up numbers:
Team A has a point spread of +1.5 (-110) . Team B has a point spread of +2 (-110).
-A parlay of these would need both teams to cover their respective spreads (+1.5 & 2) and would pay +265 or so.
-- Say you aren't so confident that those spreads aren't quite enough. You can make a "teaser" bet, say of +5. That means Team A's spread is now +6.5 and teams B's is +7. Both teams still have to hit to win the bet, but the odds are now ~-120.
I also use them a bit during basketball season. You can use more than 2 teams, but it's simpler to explain with less teams. Hope it made sense.Comment -
xagonzxSBR Sharp
- 04-26-16
- 283
#358One thing you can to solve this problem is making an open parlay. That means you take create a parlay with some selections that are currently on the board and select the option to have open spaces in the parlay so you can finish it later. For instance, since I like the value on Poirier I made two 3-team open parlays that consist of Poirier and 2 open spots. When I find other selections I like later in the year, I can add them to that parlay. I'll probably add Bisping -3.5 to one of them when that prop comes out in a few weeks.Comment -
bjpenn85SBR Hall of Famer
- 02-17-11
- 5059
#359I forgot you had mentioned being restricted on parlays, sorry!
A teaser is used for spread-betting (basketball, football mainly). It's a parlay, with an enhanced line for the spread but a lower payout.
For a random example, making up numbers:
Team A has a point spread of +1.5 (-110) . Team B has a point spread of +2 (-110).
-A parlay of these would need both teams to cover their respective spreads (+1.5 & 2) and would pay +265 or so.
-- Say you aren't so confident that those spreads aren't quite enough. You can make a "teaser" bet, say of +5. That means Team A's spread is now +6.5 and teams B's is +7. Both teams still have to hit to win the bet, but the odds are now ~-120.
I also use them a bit during basketball season. You can use more than 2 teams, but it's simpler to explain with less teams. Hope it made sense.
The rest makes no sense.Comment -
bjpenn85SBR Hall of Famer
- 02-17-11
- 5059
#360Addig:
3 units on Chas skelly, Belal Muhammed @ evens to win - 3 units
Im so pissed of not getting Belal Muhammed at -250...so mad. Both fighters meets cans. Its can city, if anyone of these guys looses its good old variance. Both skelly and Muhammed is way better, odds reflect that.Comment -
getlucky2winSBR MVP
- 01-14-12
- 1118
#361teasers are great for nfl. basically u are buying pts on multiple teams and parlaying them. google should answer any questions if you are interestedComment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
- 04-14-16
- 14140
#362Teasers make each parlay leg easier to hit. They essentially give you more room for error. If a team is a (+2) dog and they lose by 5, a bet against the original spread would lose. But with a +4 teaser you get a wider spread where the (+2) dog would cover since the teaser spread is (+6). Since the extra points cushion makes it easier to hit each leg, the value is lower and you have to do multiple legs to get the same value as a regular spread play.Comment -
xagonzxSBR Sharp
- 04-26-16
- 283
#363Hugo explained it more in depth in the comment above this one. Basically, it gives you a wider point-spread, which makes it more likely to hit, which is why it is reduced odds. Using my example still, it's easier for the teams to cover +6.5 & +7 spreads than it is for them to cover the original +1.5 and +2 spreads.Comment -
bjpenn85SBR Hall of Famer
- 02-17-11
- 5059
#364Addig:
3 units on Chas skelly, Belal Muhammed @ evens to win - 3 units
Im so pissed of not getting Belal Muhammed at -250...so mad. Both fighters meets cans. Its can city, if anyone of these guys looses its good old variance. Both skelly and Muhammed is way better, odds reflect that.Comment -
xagonzxSBR Sharp
- 04-26-16
- 283
#365I think, odds aside, Skelly wins this. Not sure what you got him at, but I'm passing at the (-175) to (-185) I'm seeing him at right now. Blanco isn't very good either and they're both gritty, so can see Skelly pulling the decision out. Muhammed should handily win as well, although the odds are too high for me to even consider for now.Comment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
- 04-14-16
- 14140
#366I think Skelly has a bit of value at this price. He's a fringe top 15 FW and has only lost to Bektic and Elkins. His striking is pretty meh but he's great at getting the fight to the ground and Blanco doesn't have amazing TDD. I have some suspicions that Blanco was on PEDs in the pre-USADA era and he looked terrible in his last fight. Lastly, I don't think I could ever find it in myself to bet on a guy (Blanco) who lost to Marcus Brimage.Comment -
bjpenn85SBR Hall of Famer
- 02-17-11
- 5059
#367I think Skelly has a bit of value at this price. He's a fringe top 15 FW and has only lost to Bektic and Elkins. His striking is pretty meh but he's great at getting the fight to the ground and Blanco doesn't have amazing TDD. I have some suspicions that Blanco was on PEDs in the pre-USADA era and he looked terrible in his last fight. Lastly, I don't think I could ever find it in myself to bet on a guy (Blanco) who lost to Marcus Brimage.Comment -
bjpenn85SBR Hall of Famer
- 02-17-11
- 5059
#368Adding:
3 units on Dustin the diamond Poirier @ 1.67 to win - 2 units
I have a hang for betting fighters with momentum. Do Poirier have a significant advantage stylistically?Not really. This fight may end up as a pure kickboxing match for three rounds because of MJs excellent tdd. For three rounds i do like Poiriers pace, his striking accuracy, and if the fight ends up on the ground he may score points, even if poiriers takedowns last a couple of seconds. Or, he may be dominant and pick up a sub. MJ is really good, so if he comes in ready to fight, this can be close, but he usually loses the third round in fights that goes to a dec. That basically means that if he doesnt win the two first rounds, hes doomed. Im willing to lay down 3 units to see if that theory holds water.
Adding:
2.45 units on Johnson @ 2.45 to win back - 3.5 unitsComment -
Raynor21SBR Sharp
- 06-23-09
- 422
#369Diamond has great skills, a great chin and he improves after every fight and hasn't hit his peak yet. Either Dustin finishes or Johnson gets a decision.
Or Flash KO, anything can happen, but I'm personally going with Dustin small.Comment -
firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-18-13
- 6420
#370Very close fight , lot of people sleeping on Michael Johnson here he was on a great streak before losing to Diaz .. Lauzon , Tibau, guillard, barbosa, he beat dariush everybody knew he was robbed .. So that's a very very solid streak Imo maybe even more impressive then poriers right now , porier does look like a new beast at 55 and is coming with the momentum so I lean him but this is much much closer then people are giving credit for don't love anything over -140 for porierComment -
bjpenn85SBR Hall of Famer
- 02-17-11
- 5059
#371Very close fight , lot of people sleeping on Michael Johnson here he was on a great streak before losing to Diaz .. Lauzon , Tibau, guillard, barbosa, he beat dariush everybody knew he was robbed .. So that's a very very solid streak Imo maybe even more impressive then poriers right now , porier does look like a new beast at 55 and is coming with the momentum so I lean him but this is much much closer then people are giving credit for don't love anything over -140 for porierComment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
- 04-14-16
- 14140
#372Dustin didnt look good enought striking wise against todd duffe, didnt look bad, but, if he didnt get tag as much i would have been more confident. Its my fear for dustin getting tagged and KOed is larger than my confidence in him having ever improving skills and the momentum he has right now. It also sucks to waste 70% of my profit from my last weekends profit on a bet im not confident in.
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firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-18-13
- 6420
#373Dustin fought UFC Heavyweight Todd Duffee? When??
https://www.google.com/search?site=&...-GC-wYrgBzM%3A
Mustve been one of those pride fights ... Lmao kidding I'm sure he has names mixed up but not sure where Todd dufee comes from??? Maybe he's thinking Conor mcgregorComment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
- 04-14-16
- 14140
#374I think he's talking about Joe Duffy since Poirier struggled a bit on the feet with him before realizing he could take Duffy down at will and beat him up on the ground.Comment -
firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-18-13
- 6420
#375Youre right , I thought he was talking about getting kod by mcgregor , but yes the joe Duffy fight makes more sense Hugo... Porier got tagged a bit then decided to takedown Duffy and secured the win , completely different fights then this with Michael Johnson regardless.... Each fight brings new tasks and is completely different then the past/ nextComment -
bjpenn85SBR Hall of Famer
- 02-17-11
- 5059
#376Haha meant joe duffy yes.Comment -
bjpenn85SBR Hall of Famer
- 02-17-11
- 5059
#377UFC Fight Night Poirier vs Johnson
7.5 units on Dustin Poirier @ 1.65 to win - 4.8 units
3 units on Chas Skelly, Belal Muhammed @ evens to win - 3 units
2.45 units on Michael Johnson @ 2.45 to win back - 3.55 unitsComment -
bjpenn85SBR Hall of Famer
- 02-17-11
- 5059
#378
Result on this thread since 7th may (2016): +64.9 units
Its easy to be swayed towards a fighter that had only for some time won by KO. Dustin Poirier is still hittable, and slow. DPs habit of getting tagged has followed him through his whole career. MJs speed was pretty obvious and its bugs me a little that i went for the sexy pick in DP. But, the decision to buy out of Poirier because his flawed defence was at least correct.
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bjpenn85SBR Hall of Famer
- 02-17-11
- 5059
#379Adding:
20 units on Louis Smolka @ 1.54 to win - 10.8 untsLast edited by bjpenn85; 09-18-16, 01:53 PM.Comment -
bjpenn85SBR Hall of Famer
- 02-17-11
- 5059
#380Adding:
5 units on Thiago Santos, Santos/lansberg under 1.5 rounds @ 1.54 to win - 2.8 unitsComment -
Rich BenjaminsSBR Wise Guy
- 12-15-15
- 831
#381I made the mistake of betting on Poirier too. What might have been a red flag, is I think everyone and their dog was betting on Poirier, yet he still was only a -1.65 fav. When almost nobody is taking Johnson, but the line isn't that far apart, then maybe the view was wrong.
Same thing happened with McGregor/Diaz 2. Seemed like everyone was taking Diaz, yet McGregor was still the favorite. Smart money was coming in on McGregor, just like smart money was betting on Johnson.
Event result: -0.9 units
Result on this thread since 7th may (2016): +64.9 units
Its easy to be swayed towards a fighter that had only for some time won by KO. Dustin Poirier is still hittable, and slow. DPs habit of getting tagged has followed him through his whole career. MJs speed was pretty obvious and its bugs me a little that i went for the sexy pick in DP. But, the decision to buy out of Poirier because his flawed defence was at least correct.
Last edited by Rich Benjamins; 09-18-16, 08:19 AM.Comment -
bjpenn85SBR Hall of Famer
- 02-17-11
- 5059
#383
Very few people, myself included could have foreseen the giant leap Smolka would make when he made his debut in the ufc early 2014. Smolka is first and foremost a pressure fighter that loves to grapple. His striking is abysmal imo, poor defence and low speed is some of the sad attributes. But, Smolka keeps a high pace in all his fight with his diaz brother like frame, youll easily see this man go the full three rounds without any issues. Smolka will try to grapple with Pettis and while pettis has decent ground game and probably the advantage standing, this wont be a striking competition in my eyes. Smolkas takedowns are quite good, and he sticks to his opponent like glue. Smolka does also has a healthy habit of making fights the way he wants it. Smolka wil typically chain a clinch attempt, with a submisson attempt with a new one and so on. If he doesnt get the takedown, he will easily give up his back, to falsely make his opponent advance for seconds later conquer top position. He has many routes to end up on the ground, so my prediction is that the fight will somehow some way eventually end up there. All bet involve risk, and i commonly break bankroll management rules with bets like this. I will always consider hedging or buying out based on available information. However, i need to make a move when i see gift line as this. Line did open up at -280 at sportsbook.com, so when i got the -180 line, i was like herro prrease.Comment -
bjpenn85SBR Hall of Famer
- 02-17-11
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