MLB System Strategies

ShivaBowl · 05-01-12, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by joeytunes

BP Plays

LAD 3.39
ATL 2.14
Chw 2.14
LAA 1.78.......only if you can find a line under or -150 keep eye
Bal 1.61

Filter
Det -160
Sea L/3
Oak L/3
S.D. L/3
Mia L/3 and travel

Thanks joeytunes but HoulihansTX has BPR.
I sent a system to you, take a look at it and let me know what you think?
Thank You

cash$bro91 · 05-01-12, 10:39 AM

I think PIT & BOS were both ML system plays that won and weren't counted for yesterday.

Tommygunn · 05-01-12, 12:18 PM

Moneyline System

Yesterday (30/04/12) went 0-1 for -1.0 unit

YTD April 24-Current - 2-3 for -1.1 units

Today's Plays (01/05/12)

Det is a play if -125 to -150

Phi are a play when Atl is -110 or <

CWS is a play if +155 to -150

Please double check. Let me know if I missed something.

Tommygunn · 05-01-12, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by cash$bro91

I think PIT & BOS were both ML system plays that won and weren't counted for yesterday.

You would have to double check these with Houli. I wasn't around yesterday to check these. For now I'm only counting the Tor loss that Houli posted.

Tommygunn · 05-01-12, 12:49 PM

Today's P/T System Plays (01/05/12)

NYM
CWS *
LAD
Cinn 1/2 *
Phi 1/2
SF 1/2 *

NP if > -150 or if L2 or opponent W2

An * denotes that the line is close to the -150 mark, Watch Closely! I will begin record as of today. I'm only posting plays if both pitchers have 20 IP. A half unit play represents a play in which pitching critera check out but team support does not.

Please double check Shiva. See if there is anything you'd like to add or adjust. I won't post all of these filters after this first post.

cash$bro91 · 05-01-12, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by Tommygunn

Moneyline System

Yesterday (30/04/12) went 0-1 for -1.0 unit

YTD April 24-Current - 2-3 for -1.1 units

Today's Plays (01/05/12)

Phi are a play when Atl is -110 or <

CWS is a play if +155 to -150

Please double check. Let me know if I missed something.

Looks like DET would be a ML play also, between -150 and -125. KC apparently changed their pitcher to Hochevar.

Tommygunn · 05-01-12, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by cash$bro91

Looks like DET would be a ML play also, between -150 and -125. KC apparently changed their pitcher to Hochevar.

Thanks for the heads up. I will add Det.

joeytunes · 05-01-12, 02:07 PM

FREE PLAY

CHW if the line is under -130 so that has come and gone

cash$bro91 · 05-01-12, 02:17 PM

Would DET still have had the same Proj ML if ST listed Hochevar as the starting pitcher for KC instead of Sanchez?

Tommygunn · 05-01-12, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by cash$bro91

Would DET still have had the same Proj ML if ST listed Hochevar as the starting pitcher for KC instead of Sanchez?

You know that's a good question. Shiva & Houli, can we just exchange one pitcher for another like that or should we just eliminate it as a play? Let me know and I'll remove it if you guys want. Thanks

HoulihansTX · 05-01-12, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

April 24 - Current
Overall
(18-10) +4.90Units

April 30
Bullpen Proj Sys
Dodgers 3.95 (+125) L
Det 1.67 (-150) PPD

No records are official until May 15, or 20IP
_____________________________________
Overall
(11-13) -4.90Units

TPR
TX 2.5 (-130) W
Brew 1.8 (-105) W
Tampa 1.7 (-120) W
KC 1.1 (+140) PPD
_____________________________________
April 24 - Current
Overall
(2-2) -0.1Units

Moneyline play 4/30
Toronto +175 to -150

April 24 - Current
Overall
(18-11) +3.90Units

May 1st
Bullpen Proj Sys

No records are official until May 15, or 20IP
_____________________________________
Overall
(14-13) -1.90Units

TPR
TX 2.5 (-130)
Brew 1.8 (-110)
Atl 1.7 (-120)
KC 1.1 (+140)

No Play
Boston 4.1 np>-150
StL 3.0 np>-150
Yanks 1.7 np>-150
Tampa 1.7 np>-150

ShivaBowl · 05-01-12, 11:00 PM

Originally posted by Tommygunn

You know that's a good question. Shiva & Houli, can we just exchange one pitcher for another like that or should we just eliminate it as a play? Let me know and I'll remove it if you guys want. Thanks

No we'll keep it as a play

ShivaBowl · 05-01-12, 11:06 PM

Wow it's only been a few days, but this thread really looks good.
Thank you for all your help

TommyGun as far as closing lines please use the books on SBR.
Thanks

http://www.sbrforum.com/betting-odds/mlb-baseball/

Tommygunn · 05-02-12, 12:53 AM

Originally posted by ShivaBowl

Wow it's only been a few days, but this thread really looks good.
Thank you for all your help

TommyGun as far as closing lines please use the books on SBR.
Thanks

http://www.sbrforum.com/betting-odds/mlb-baseball/

So should I count CWS as a M/L play? It was under -150 on pinny, dimes and Greek but -151 on SBR's overall line. Personally I'm going to play it everytime but SBR's overall line gets weighed down by shitty books like sports interaction, William Hill and Bodog

HoulihansTX · 05-02-12, 04:03 AM

Originally posted by Tommygunn

So should I count CWS as a M/L play? It was under -150 on pinny, dimes and Greek but -151 on SBR's overall line. Personally I'm going to play it everytime but SBR's overall line gets weighed down by shitty books like sports interaction, William Hill and Bodog

Ignore books with 20cent lines, and square books like BoDog/SIA/WillHill

I use Jazz/Pinny, and 5Dimes.

HoulihansTX · 05-02-12, 07:33 AM

Originally posted by cash$bro91

I think PIT & BOS were both ML system plays that won and weren't counted for yesterday.

They were. Have been busy, and could not check the late lines.

ShivaBowl · 05-02-12, 07:58 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

Ignore books with 20cent lines, and square books like BoDog/SIA/WillHill

I use Jazz/Pinny, and 5Dimes.

Sounds good.

ShivaBowl · 05-02-12, 08:15 AM

S/A Plays Went 1-1 yesterday.
As of 04/27/12
6-6 -1.59 U

Today’s S/A plays; based on early lines.
TEX If < -110
BAL
ARZ
CIN If < -175
SFO

Pitching and Team H/A Power Plays
No Plays today

HoulihansTX · 05-02-12, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

April 24 - Current
Overall
(18-11) +3.90Units

May 1st
Bullpen Proj Sys

No records are official until May 15, or 20IP
_____________________________________
Overall
(14-13) -1.90Units

TPR
TX 2.5 (-130) L
Brew 1.8 (-110) L
Atl 1.7 (-120) L
KC 1.1 (+140) L

_____________________________________
April 24 - Current
May 2nd
Overall
(14-17) -6.50Units

TPR
TX (-105) 2.5
Brew 1.8
Atl (+100) 1.7

No Play
Bos 4.1 np>-150
StL 3.0 np>-150
Tampa 1.7 np>-150
Yanks 1.7 np>-150
KC 1.1 npL2

Tommygunn · 05-02-12, 10:12 AM

Moneyline System

Yesterday (1/05/12) went 3-0 for 3.0 unit

YTD April 24-Current - 7-3 for +4.46 units

Today's Plays (02/05/12)

Tor if +120 to -150

Phi if Atl +110 or >

Mia if SF -225 or <

Tommygunn · 05-02-12, 10:22 AM

P/T System

Yesterday (1/05/12) went 2-2 for +0.17 units

YTD May 1st-Current - 2-2 for +0.17 units

Today's P/T System Plays (02/05/12)

Tex 1/2

NP if >-150

freshguy222 · 05-02-12, 10:40 AM

CWS isn't a plays I think because CWS' pitcher has 19.1 innings only (i might play it though, but waiting for houlihans to confirm)

Tommygunn · 05-02-12, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by cash$bro91

I think PIT & BOS were both ML system plays that won and weren't counted for yesterday.

Thanks Cashbro. If you see my latest post I have added both wins to the Moneyline record.

Tommygunn · 05-02-12, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by freshguy222

CWS isn't a plays I think because CWS' pitcher has 19.1 innings only (i might play it though, but waiting for houlihans to confirm)

Thanks Fresh, I missed that. Early in season so everyone please double check plays and let us know if there's a discrepancy. I've adjusted it now.

joeytunes · 05-02-12, 10:50 AM

CHW any thing less then -130 is a play...the free play...so as of now i see -120 its a play

freshguy222 · 05-02-12, 11:06 AM

hy aren't the yankees a play tonight? i mean i dont like them today at all but i think it should be one

Tommygunn · 05-02-12, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by freshguy222

hy aren't the yankees a play tonight? i mean i dont like them today at all but i think it should be one

For most systems we don't play anything over -150. I believe Shiva has made an exemption for the SA system in which he has extended that to -175

freshguy222 · 05-02-12, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by Tommygunn

For most systems we don't play anything over -150. I believe Shiva has made an exemption for the SA system in which he has extended that to -175

okay, got it.

Tommygunn · 05-02-12, 11:33 AM

Houli are you still posting BPR? I believe Tex and Balt are plays after regular filtering and only playing teams with 20IP each.

HoulihansTX · 05-02-12, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by Tommygunn

Houli are you still posting BPR? I believe Tex and Balt are plays after regular filtering and only playing teams with 20IP each.

I thought Joey was posting? He did it yesterday. I'm away from my spreadsheet, can someone else fill in today?

Tommygunn · 05-02-12, 11:40 AM

Today's BPR

Tex
Balt

As I said Houli, I used regular filters and only counted games in which both pitchers have 20IP. You can double check plays and update record later. Thanks

joeytunes · 05-02-12, 12:05 PM

Shoot i thought shiva told me u had bpr..ur call i can do it

joeytunes · 05-02-12, 12:08 PM

i would bother with 20ip with bullpen...what you guys think..its irrelvant to strating pitching??? thoughts?

BPR if u dont go by 20 innings...

tex
atl
oak
chw
sd
bal

ShivaBowl · 05-02-12, 12:23 PM

Guys please don't worry about BPR until May 15 pitchers with 20 innings pitched don't have anything to do with BPR, the reason BPR starts so late in the year because it's based on bullpen pitchers, and as you already know it takes a bullpen a lot longer to get to 20 innings pitched.
Thanks

joeytunes · 05-02-12, 12:30 PM

yup thats what i was figuring..thats what i was kinda getting at sounds good...oakland looks like a great play tonite btw