2012 MLB Season with John Ryan

[JJJ]

This is a great lesson to everyone. Baseball is the worst sport to bet.
John Ryan is by all accounts a relatively sharp guy who puts effort and research into his plays, but as we all can see it means nothing when it comes to baseball.
It is an extremely hard sport to handicap for a variety of reasons.

Just an FYI his NCAA basketball thread was a loser, his NBA thread was a loser

[TidesRoln]

Can we get a record update so we dont see any more losses that dont get counted

Overall: 287 units down.

[martywest17]

WOW......

[John Ryan]

John struggles because he bets on irrelevant and nonsensical trends from 30 years ago, instead of betting based on real handicapping



Taking a 24-48 team that's 4-19 with the worst OPS in the league vs lefties against one of the best lefties in the league...that's not sharp

That is not accurate of what my work is based on. They are not based on trends or systems. I can provide you with trends and systems supporting both team sin every single game. It is my simulator that is founded on a neural network, back propagation methodology, that has produced the picks. The other commentary is a history lesson and serves to reinforce, explain why the play is being made. I could release the picks 'as is' with no explanation or analysis and it is FOUNDED on what the simulator comes up with.

[John Ryan]

5* play on the Milwaukee Brewers +146
5* Cleveland Indians +142
5* Philadelphia -139


Plays for Tuesday.

[John Ryan]

5* graded play on the Milwaukee Brewers as they take on the Cincinnati Reds set to start at 12:35 PM ET. The simulator shows a high probability that the Brewers will win this game. Arroyo really surprised me with his stellar outing last night taking a no hitter into the eighth before allowing the game to get tied at 3-3. He pitched well and did not get the win and has just one win in his last nine starts.

Supporting this graded play today is a system that has produced a record of 44-22 making 2q6 units per one unit wagered since 2006. Play on any team after two straight games where they had five or less hits and has a well rested bullpen that threw two or fewer innings in each of the last three games. This system has averaged a +109 dog and has also had a stellar three year record of 30-15 making 17.7 units per one unit wagered.

Game Situations
Milwaukee is a solid 17-2 making 14.4 units using the money line when facing a NL starting pitcher whose ERA is 4.20 to 4.70 over the last two seasons. Take the Brewers.

[Vasco]

This guy is fade material. Plain and simple. I was on Brewers but thankfully didn't read this thread before gametime. Definitely would've bought out. This guy is straight awful. Stupid simulator garbage is meaningless. Horrid "trends" that are meaningless in capping the actual games. Luckily he didn't mush the Brewers today. Again......fade this guy at all costs. Seems like a nice guy, not trying to bash him but his "simulator" and other nonsense is just not a good way to cap games. He's atrocious. Thankfully I've never tailed this guy. Please any newbies stay away. If you faded this guy over the past few months you'd be a millionaire.

[TidesRoln]

this guy is straight awful. Stupid simulator garbage is meaningless.

fear the simulator!!

[John Ryan]

Ok. for Thursday I am taking Colorado as outlined in this week's Betting Systems and Handicapping Report.

Colorado is line as a +138 dog. Good Luck to all.

[John Ryan]

For fun and entertainment if anyone wants to challenge me straight up for a 500 winner take all play spanning the next 30 days let's set it up. I would welcome the opportunity to compete (win or lose). Thanks

[will2survive]

For fun and entertainment if anyone wants to challenge me straight up for a 500 winner take all play spanning the next 30 days let's set it up. I would welcome the opportunity to compete (win or lose). Thanks

Haha - Shut these guys up , John. My money is on you

[drnkyourmlkshk]

I dont know how I would get or receive cash to or from you. Ill taje the challenge in college football season win or lose sounds like fun. I'm not much of a bases guy but I like the idea pm me please very busy time of year for me. Also a huge fan just hate the phils

[drnkyourmlkshk]

Actually I think I might do bases as well. I need the ok thats the winner is based upon units that can be verified as actual wagers whether screen shots. Pictures of tickets from sportsbooks.
I will also need the ability to hedge, play corellated parlays, first 5 innings, team totals, player props. Liquid markets basically. My unit size doesnt vary. So a 5* play for me would be 1000 usd. Im a single unit player so are the *'s just a strength of play or actual unit size.. a *20 would be 4k thats pretty hard to get down obv.

Also I need you to know that Im in no way trying to get under your skin by asking of these things. Im simply looking for a +ev spot (its what i do for a living) and or look for something that challenges me after the series ends in 8 days for me.
You will def have a edge on me in some places and vice versa I have a feeling. Itll be fun and I can pay you in person if youre in LV obv. Otherwise I will post up via escrow or wire transfer. I will use 4 online books and 2 live books. Ty, MILK

[balls2wall]

Actually I think I might do bases as well. I need the ok thats the winner is based upon units that can be verified as actual wagers whether screen shots. Pictures of tickets from sportsbooks.
I will also need the ability to hedge, play corellated parlays, first 5 innings, team totals, player props. Liquid markets basically. My unit size doesnt vary. So a 5* play for me would be 1000 usd. Im a single unit player so are the *'s just a strength of play or actual unit size.. a *20 would be 4k thats pretty hard to get down obv.

Also I need you to know that Im in no way trying to get under your skin by asking of these things. Im simply looking for a +ev spot (its what i do for a living) and or look for something that challenges me after the series ends in 8 days for me.
You will def have a edge on me in some places and vice versa I have a feeling. Itll be fun and I can pay you in person if youre in LV obv. Otherwise I will post up via escrow or wire transfer. I will use 4 online books and 2 live books. Ty, MILK

It is not my thread, nor is it my challenge so I have no input whatsoever. With that being said, I would love to see one of the guys that have been stalking him in this thread step up to the plate. I am guessing they don't have the balls to do so, but I could be wrong.

That would be much more entertaining for the forum, as well as more rewarding for the winner.

If you are a stalker of John's then I apologize. I recognize your name, but don't recall you being one of his stalkers.

If his stalkers don't step up then you vs. him would be fun to follow as well.

[drnkyourmlkshk]

Definitly not a stalker. I kept track of his record before the wsop started and am a fan of Johns. His insight is terrific and watched all of his and loshaks shows during cf and nfl season. I think he is a top notch capper and I believe my edge is small if I have one at all. Win or lose if it adds some entertainment and or motivates us further Im in.

I have never posted a play other than my cf futures a couple of days and my plays arent easy to understand.
Ex. today I have wash-125 (rebate) colorado +139
colorado TT over 5
I chased steam and got sf-cin-6.5 under -120 last night and
then played cin team total over 3 +110 sf-113
Imo sf wins if the game stays under. However if it does go over its going to be the better hitting club that causes it to do so. I hedge 40% of my initial lean to lock something up. I will also play a 1/4 unit on the giants team total after all my data tells me if theirs anything there.
So for me to say hey john my plays are sf-112 6.5u cin tt3o it becomes taxing

[John Ryan]

Haha - Shut these guys up , John. My money is on you

Thanks for the post!!! I am a bit surprised that no one has accepted my challenge. I thought maybe I was being generous with my offer to simply give away 500 units... Let's focus on turning things around. One day at a time. A big lesson can be learned here over the remainder of the summer.

[drnkyourmlkshk]

Umm wtf?? John I accepted it sir. Is it 500$ or 500 units?! Im kinda lost and dont understand I guess. Pm me please.
Thanks, MILK

[a4u2fear]

Haha - Shut these guys up , John. My money is on you

Do you always place bets on people down 287 units?

[JJJ]

LOL guy is challenging the ppl down 300 units almost.... why dont you just worry about winning games we are already down 300 units with this thread and baseball is your best sport

[John Ryan]

Umm wtf?? John I accepted it sir. Is it 500$ or 500 units?! Im kinda lost and dont understand I guess. Pm me please.
Thanks, MILK

500 units. and minimum of 50 plays max of 75 spread out over a 30-day period of time. I can have LT Profits set it up for us.

[John Ryan]

ok. For tonight, I have a 5* on the Dodgers +130 playing the Mets

5* Cardinals -190...

10* Philadelphia +100

10* OVER Texas-Oakland 10 1/2 +107

[drnkyourmlkshk]

Just so Im clear its just an opinion contest with hypothetical units? 500 units IRL is 100k for me! Lmao I like you John but thats a little insane obv.Im fine with that. 500$ Ill escrow no problem pm me. Im fine with LT profits being a moderator etc.
So we will use your play rating
5* 10* 20*
30 days first to 500 units or person with the most units 30 days from the start date wins the others 500$?
Done! Good luck.
Have you or LT pm me and we will iron out the escrow and anything else.
Should be fun.

[JJJ]

Need a record update this is what happens in these other losing threads doesnt update the record for days and days than record is way off this thread is a joke

[JJJ]

ok. For tonight, I have a 5* on the Dodgers +130 playing the Mets

5* Cardinals -190...

10* Philadelphia +100

10* OVER Texas-Oakland 10 1/2 +107

Dodgers -Pending

Cardinals- LOSS

Philly-LOSS

Over in Texas game-LOSS

DOWN 30 UNITS TODAY SO FAR WOW

[Jasper11]

Miami was a tough one.

Monday's plays are

5* Philadelphia -137

5* Cubs +125

10* Miami Marlins +107

Good luck and thanks!!!!

research supporting these plays are on the site.

John,
I had Miami too and was steaming at the bad beat. Miami had a 6-1 lead in the 7th but St Louis scored 8 runs in the last 4 innings to win 8-7 in 10innings. I knew you had it and I had thought it was a good play. Still a part of me wanted to vent just to let the anger out. I ended up taking a few days off but I could see how anyone could lash out at their friendly handicapper who had also suffered through the same agonizing loss.
Tonight I took Pittsburgh+180 and they are up by 9 in the 9th. I am not bragging just asking how the team with the slightly better record and slightly better pitching could be such an underdog. I am not going to recap the game but I thought Pittsburgh,especially now that they are hitting,should be +125 to+135 at St Louis. Am I wrong? Pittsburgh also has very a very good bull pen and no I am not a fan nor a homie.Anybody?
Jasper

[Coming Back!]

I think John does a good job on his football show. And he seems like a nice guy. But, I don't understand the point of this thread. No offense John, but this is not working out. If this was real $$$$, you wouldn't of made it past some teams first homestand, nevermind July. This is crazy. I never saw so many losers. It's actually remarkable.

[Coming Back!]

John,
I had Miami too and was steaming at the bad beat. Miami had a 6-1 lead in the 7th but St Louis scored 8 runs in the last 4 innings to win 8-7 in 10innings. I knew you had it and I had thought it was a good play. Still a part of me wanted to vent just to let the anger out. I ended up taking a few days off but I could see how anyone could lash out at their friendly handicapper who had also suffered through the same agonizing loss.
Tonight I took Pittsburgh+180 and they are up by 9 in the 9th. I am not bragging just asking how the team with the slightly better record and slightly better pitching could be such an underdog. I am not going to recap the game but I thought Pittsburgh,especially now that they are hitting,should be +125 to+135 at St Louis. Am I wrong? Pittsburgh also has very a very good bull pen and no I am not a fan nor a homie.Anybody?
Jasper

Line is primarily based on the starting pitchers. Gotta know that bro

[JJJ]

unreal lost 34 units today

[Jasper11]

I do know that,thank you. Everyone knows that but the devil is in the details. I didn't think there was such big difference this season,between the pitchers.Wainwright is 6-8 with a 4.75 E.R.A. 1.34WHIP. Kevin Correa is only 3-6 but his E.R.A.is 4.03 and WHIP is 1.29. Yes Wainwright has had very good years but I have a theory about once great pitchers who are struggling. Without starting a new thread I just feel we need to go by current stats and not the past. It is a long season for pitchers,the aches and pains add up,but medicines that once helped are now banned in the over reaction to steroids. Hell even a Benzedrine can get you suspended let alone anti inflammatory steroids that merely promote healing.I am not an expert but I feel it hurts the veteran pitchers the most.Good night all.

[TidesRoln]

unreal lost 34 units today

Another day of Mr. Ryan getting swept; 0 - 4. The official count now stands at minus 309.5 units. This includes the 50 units he tried to shave off of the record a few weeks ago with the old "picks were on the website trick"; problem with that is he only brings over the units won and not lost. In this thread he is definitely down 309.5 units; go back and check.

[balls2wall]

I think John does a good job on his football show. And he seems like a nice guy. But, I don't understand the point of this thread. No offense John, but this is not working out. If this was real $$$$, you wouldn't of made it past some teams first homestand, nevermind July. This is crazy. I never saw so many losers. It's actually remarkable.

There are a good percentage of posters around here that basically say how great they are and post plays for a few weeks that sometimes start off well and sometimes don't. Either way, they inevitably turn to losers then the self proclaimed "gambling god" of a poster disappears and stops posting plays.

I give John credit for not stopping. This is his season long thread and I expect he will continue until he is done for the season, regardless of how ugly it may get.

I also think that he has some kind of deal with SBR so he probably agreed to post here daily for the whole season.

I like reading his football threads for his insights on totals.

[John Ryan]

I can honestly admit, that this is the worst stretch I have had in any sport ever. managing the bank roll is critical to being able to continue and that is why I will and WHY I completely believe in my work and the years of success I have enjoyed. I always like the saying some days, you are the dog and others the fire hydrant. Right now, I obviously feel like I have been the hydrant for the entire season..

Sometimes, in life, you just have to laugh at yourself and this is where I am right now. But as I said, I will continue the march and will look to every opportunity with a clear and open mind that is not cluttered by the past few months of losers.

5* St. Louis Cardinals
10* Toronto using the +1 1/2 Run Line.

[John Ryan]

John,
I had Miami too and was steaming at the bad beat. Miami had a 6-1 lead in the 7th but St Louis scored 8 runs in the last 4 innings to win 8-7 in 10innings. I knew you had it and I had thought it was a good play. Still a part of me wanted to vent just to let the anger out. I ended up taking a few days off but I could see how anyone could lash out at their friendly handicapper who had also suffered through the same agonizing loss.
Tonight I took Pittsburgh+180 and they are up by 9 in the 9th. I am not bragging just asking how the team with the slightly better record and slightly better pitching could be such an underdog. I am not going to recap the game but I thought Pittsburgh,especially now that they are hitting,should be +125 to+135 at St Louis. Am I wrong? Pittsburgh also has very a very good bull pen and no I am not a fan nor a homie.Anybody?
Jasper

Last night and on several other nights, The plays were winning and in good shape to win, HOWEVER, for reasons unknown to me, the baseball gods are working against me and the suffering is huge in the late innings. I assure you, in the months ahead, there will be a solid lesson learned here.

[John Ryan]

fear the simulator!!

I have updated the records every few days and you are NOT correct. The record is bad, not the point, but not at 309 units and I did not shave off 50 units.. In fact, there have been winning plays issued in my articles, that are NOT included in the thread. such is life. I will offer to go head to head with you on a 500 unit max winner take all duel.. Interested? I like to compete and maybe that is what I need to turn the ship around.

[TidesRoln]

I will offer to go head to head with you on a 500 unit max winner take all duel.. Interested?

Yes. Just put me down for the opposite of what your picks are.