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  • EaglesPhan36
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-06-06
    • 71662

    #211
    Isner was done as soon as Verdasco won the 3rd set. Strategy-wise, Isner played like a college kid today and he hasn't done anything with Verdasco's serve since the 1st set. Not really sure what to think of Verdasco in the next round. Djokovic or Stepanek will be more of a battle because they can move better and tactically play smarter than Isner. They keep saying Verdasco has an ab strain, but if he does, he's certainly managing it well. I think against better returners like a Djokovic, he'll go down. Haas broke him a lot in the last match. Price will be interesting to see depending on who wins tonight.
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    • Stacocakes
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 04-10-08
      • 7126

      #212
      Isner has had so many chances to break back here he just cant keep the ball in play consistantly.Probably due to the fact that he is tired but in these rallies isner has no chance.

      Djokovic should be able to beat Verdasco. He has won the last three times they have played. If Stepanek happens to beat Djokovic, I think Verdasco should be able to beat Radek
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      • EaglesPhan36
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 12-06-06
        • 71662

        #213
        Yeah, but the only reason Isner had chances to break back were because Verdasco became an error machine for a few points. Verdasco has been real solid today. I didn't see the Roddick-Isner match, but Roddick has to be kicking himself in the ass watching this today. Agree on your assessment next round based on whomever wins tonight. I hope Stepanek shows up and pushes Djokovic to play his best.
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        • Stacocakes
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 04-10-08
          • 7126

          #214
          Check this out Eagles

          Ok everyone knows Juan Carlos Ferrero will not win the US Open

          I was surprised when I looked at his outright odds right now and they are ****ing 960. I put 6 bucks on him to win $5,694. The path that he would have to go to win would be Del Potro, Murray, Nadal/Tsonga, Federer

          So he has to win four matches from this point to win it all.Surely this bet can be hedged all of the way and guarantee a profit. I was surprised when I looked and saw Del Potro at -605 over JCF for tomorrow. You could back every player he plays from now on and guarantee a profit or just let it ride and whatever happens happens because its the price of a happy meal you will lose if he gets knocked out. Del Potro could get injured...could be tired...anything can happen really. I think its worth it.

          Added outright :

          Juan Carlos Ferrero +96000
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          • EaglesPhan36
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 12-06-06
            • 71662

            #215
            Russians blow. That is all I know. Both Petrova & Kuznetsova absolutely choked balls. At least there's no more Russians left to take my money.
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            • Stacocakes
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 04-10-08
              • 7126

              #216
              Thought Kuz had the match after watching the first set.Didnt even watch the last two. Not a good day for anyone it seems. Gotta get it back tomorrow Eagles
              Like anything for tomorrow?
              Im going to look at the lines shortly.Will let you know
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              • EaglesPhan36
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 12-06-06
                • 71662

                #217
                Probably two hedge plays for my futures, small on Gonzalez to cover Tsonga and small on Pennetta to cover Serena. I don't reall think Serena will lose, but the price is pretty ridiculous and it would be stupid for me to pass on it to cover in case Serena struggles because Pennetta has been unbelievable. Tsonga & Gonzo is an absolute toss-up for me. Gonzo has barely been broken this tourney. Tsonga barely tested. Probably half a unit on Gonzo which would give me a small profit if he wins since I bet one unit on Tsonga to win this quarter. Quarter of a unit on Pennetta - that one I'm gonna think about for a bit. Would cover half the Serena bet if Pennetta pulls the upset.
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                • tbill11
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-15-09
                  • 1451

                  #218
                  Originally posted by Stacocakes
                  Check this out Eagles

                  Ok everyone knows Juan Carlos Ferrero will not win the US Open

                  I was surprised when I looked at his outright odds right now and they are ****ing 960. I put 6 bucks on him to win $5,694. The path that he would have to go to win would be Del Potro, Murray, Nadal/Tsonga, Federer

                  So he has to win four matches from this point to win it all.Surely this bet can be hedged all of the way and guarantee a profit. I was surprised when I looked and saw Del Potro at -605 over JCF for tomorrow. You could back every player he plays from now on and guarantee a profit or just let it ride and whatever happens happens because its the price of a happy meal you will lose if he gets knocked out. Del Potro could get injured...could be tired...anything can happen really. I think its worth it.

                  Added outright :

                  Juan Carlos Ferrero +96000
                  Would you take JCF in the match outright tomorrow anyway? I'm looking into that match, and think it could be a nice play.

                  Also think Rafa at -175 might be worth a play. He's going to lose, but probably not this round to Monfils. He is Rafa after all, and he's a gamer despite being injured. Hell all these injury rumors might just fire him up.
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                  • Stacocakes
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 04-10-08
                    • 7126

                    #219
                    Definately better to hedge out and guarantee some profit eagles.Agree with your move especially since serenas price is crazy and Tsonga match is a toss up.

                    Tbill I am not going to bet JCF for the match tomorrow.The outright I have is pretty much a bet on him already. I just took the odds on him outright because they were crazy.Just a shot in the dark.Probably not going to hedge out on the bet unless he gets to the semis or something. Only put 6 bucks on him so if he loses he loses. No point in hedging out hundreds of dollars to win back the 6 dollars I put on him.Anything can happen though and if JCF does beat Del Potro it would be surprising but I wouldnt think the world is coming to an end or anything. Nadal I would stay away from tomorrow if I was you. His price is very low and seems very good but no one knows his actual health and its hard enough to win a bet if two healthy players are playing but if you are betting on the match and betting on whether or not he is healthy,then its just not worth it really. Nadals odds would have been alot greater if he was completely healthy so there is a reason why the line looks good. Might be good to just see how he does and if he looks good then bet him in his next match vs Tsonga or Gonzalez. If you want to be really daring,you can get some good outright prices on Nadal now with everyone scared about his injury. Think somewhere in the +1400 area. I already have my outrights from the start on Nadal and I wish my odds were as good as they are now.

                    Tsonga/Gonzalez match is definately a toss up as Eagles stated.Staying away from this match.

                    Murray/Cilic match is pointless as well.Murray will probably win but backing him at -1500 is a no go. Cilic has a decent game but I dont feel he has the game to beat murray in a best of five set match.

                    Li/Clijsters

                    I dont think this match will be close. Clijsters is playing some great tennis and is just in a different class then Li, even with the long layoff. Looks like a Serena/Clijsters matchup in the semis which will be great.

                    Serena/Penetta

                    Maybe if this was a small tournament Pennetta would have a chance but in a major serena is just to strong and has 'been there and done that' all before. The only time they really faced eachother Serena won but it was a three set match so wasnt exactly easy. Both players playing relatively well right now so this should be a good match. Serena will win but I dont advise anyone to back her at -675

                    Will try to get together some type of parlay for tomorrow.Probably Clijsters/Serena and whoever. Maybe Nadal.... will see.

                    Best of luck tomorrow guys
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                    • Stacocakes
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 04-10-08
                      • 7126

                      #220
                      Definately better to hedge out and guarantee some profit eagles.Agree with your move especially since serenas price is crazy and Tsonga match is a toss up.

                      Tbill I am not going to bet JCF for the match tomorrow.The outright I have is pretty much a bet on him already. I just took the odds on him outright because they were crazy.Just a shot in the dark.Probably not going to hedge out on the bet unless he gets to the semis or something. Only put 6 bucks on him so if he loses he loses. No point in hedging out hundreds of dollars to win back the 6 dollars I put on him.Anything can happen though and if JCF does beat Del Potro it would be surprising but I wouldnt think the world is coming to an end or anything. Nadal I would stay away from tomorrow if I was you. His price is very low and seems very good but no one knows his actual health and its hard enough to win a bet if two healthy players are playing but if you are betting on the match and betting on whether or not he is healthy,then its just not worth it really. Nadals odds would have been alot greater if he was completely healthy so there is a reason why the line looks good. Might be good to just see how he does and if he looks good then bet him in his next match vs Tsonga or Gonzalez. If you want to be really daring,you can get some good outright prices on Nadal now with everyone scared about his injury. Think somewhere in the +1400 area. I already have my outrights from the start on Nadal and I wish my odds were as good as they are now.

                      Tsonga/Gonzalez match is definately a toss up as Eagles stated.Staying away from this match.

                      Murray/Cilic match is pointless as well.Murray will probably win but backing him at -1500 is a no go. Cilic has a decent game but I dont feel he has the game to beat murray in a best of five set match.

                      Li/Clijsters

                      I dont think this match will be close. Clijsters is playing some great tennis and is just in a different class then Li, even with the long layoff. Looks like a Serena/Clijsters matchup in the semis which will be great.

                      Serena/Penetta

                      Maybe if this was a small tournament Pennetta would have a chance but in a major serena is just to strong and has 'been there and done that' all before. The only time they really faced eachother Serena won but it was a three set match so wasnt exactly easy. Both players playing relatively well right now so this should be a good match. Serena will win but I dont advise anyone to back her at -675

                      Will try to get together some type of parlay for tomorrow.Probably Clijsters/Serena and whoever. Maybe Nadal.... will see.

                      Best of luck tomorrow guys
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                      • Stacocakes
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 04-10-08
                        • 7126

                        #221
                        Going to add an outright on the ladies side:

                        Wozniacki +860

                        Caroline has Oudin and Bondarenko/Wickmayer to beat for this bet to have some earning potential. I dont really see her beating Serena or Clijsters but having Wozniacki as a +860 dog in the final sounds like great value to me. Oudin continues to kill me every time I bet against her and doubt her but I cant really see how this train keeps on going. Against Sharapova Oudin played horrible but maria played that much worse which was why she lost. Against Petrova today, Nadia had that match but she choked it away with some horrible play. Wozniacki is playing the best tennis right now on the ladies side and is coming into this match on a 9 match winning streak. Definately the next two matchs are doable by wozniacki. The final...I dont really know.Lets not get to carried away here haha. Alot better to sit back and take your chances with a +800 dog then it is to bet a -400 favorite and watch her win three matches, especially if you can get a girl within the top 10 as the +800 dog. As we have seen in this last week of horrible womens tennis, anything is possible.
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                        • Stacocakes
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 04-10-08
                          • 7126

                          #222
                          Ok call me crazy but I have to top up my $6 outright on JCF to an even $10 to win $9,690. If I didnt I would be kicking myself

                          This will probably be the fastest $10 lost on an outright ever haha. Del Potro will probably beat him in three sets but when you can get odds like this during the second week of a major, sure why not. He was a world number one at one point in his life haha. Maybe del potro falls and breaks his leg or something.You never know.

                          So to recap my outrights remaining are as follows:

                          JCF +96900
                          Federer +122
                          Nadal +760
                          Wozniacki +860

                          Nadal is moving all over the place right now.Finally settling in on +1000. Wish I had the extra value on my outright.Oh well. Not going to top it up at this point.
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                          • tbill11
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-15-09
                            • 1451

                            #223
                            The fact that the public's still all over Rafa despite his injury is the opposite type of movement that I expected...looks like I was thinking like a square in my earlier post. Might have to grab Monfils after all! Thanks for the advice on the JCF bet, my books don't offer futures at such good prices, though I'm sort of liking a "anybody but Fed" bet at -110. Might get better odds after this round, so we'll see.
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                            • tbill11
                              SBR MVP
                              • 03-15-09
                              • 1451

                              #224
                              Ahh even better bet for tomorrow. JCP +6.5 games at EV. Sounds like a damn good bet to me. Thoughts?
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                              • Stacocakes
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 04-10-08
                                • 7126

                                #225
                                Parlay for today Nadal/Clijsters/Serena pays +114
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                                • Stacocakes
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 04-10-08
                                  • 7126

                                  #226
                                  Hard to tell with the JCF handicap. The thing that scares me about these handicaps in a best of five match is if a player is down 2-0 in sets they sometimes just pack it up and the third set is a 6-2 type thing which is brutal for these handicap bets. Something in the ballpark of +129 for the +6.5 is not to bad odds wise. Gun to my head picking that match I think Del Potro wins. Im really just on JCF outright because the odds were to big to pass up. I personally wouldnt bet the +6.5.
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                                  • Stacocakes
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 04-10-08
                                    • 7126

                                    #227
                                    If you want a good play Tbill the parlay that I am doing of Serena/Clijsters and Nadal pays +114 which is some decent value. If you like Nadal this is a good play because if anything happens on the injury front and he plays poorly and loses, you dont lose that much.Serena and Kim should both win there matches. I like the play
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                                    • EaglesPhan36
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 12-06-06
                                      • 71662

                                      #228
                                      The Nadal price drifting out to -200 at my book could tell you all you need to know about the injury angle. That match screams in-play betting only to me. Just too many question marks on it to make a safe wager to start I think. Monfils hasn't been challenged at all and I think you still have to wonder if he'd be ready to grind out a 5 setter. Nadal's ab is obviously somewhat of a concern, but the information is that he's had it for several weeks now. Who knows if it's worse than it was in Montreal, etc. - so why would you risk it? That's my thought anyway.
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                                      • Stacocakes
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 04-10-08
                                        • 7126

                                        #229
                                        I agree Eagles thats why I put Nadal in a parlay instead of just a straight bet.If he does lose then the damage is alot less.

                                        Do you have any plays for today eagles?
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                                        • Stacocakes
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 04-10-08
                                          • 7126

                                          #230
                                          2 break points Kim

                                          Good start
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                                          • tbill11
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-15-09
                                            • 1451

                                            #231
                                            Originally posted by Stacocakes
                                            If you want a good play Tbill the parlay that I am doing of Serena/Clijsters and Nadal pays +114 which is some decent value. If you like Nadal this is a good play because if anything happens on the injury front and he plays poorly and loses, you dont lose that much.Serena and Kim should both win there matches. I like the play
                                            I think I'll pull the trigger on that parlay, but I'm gonna throw a unit on the JCF +6.5. I actually like JCF to win this match outright, because despite Del Potro's recent dominance, JCF is a seasoned hard court vet with 3 titles on hard, who also leads Del Potro 2-0 lifetime (although both matches were on clay). What the hell right, worth a shot?

                                            Nice parlay though. I think you're right about the line movement telling a lot about Nadal's injury status
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                                            • Stacocakes
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 04-10-08
                                              • 7126

                                              #232
                                              break kim
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                                              • Stacocakes
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 04-10-08
                                                • 7126

                                                #233
                                                Gotta remember though that the head to head was years ago when Del Potro was young and JCF was in great form

                                                Definately agree that JCF does have a chance in this match. Anything can happen with Del Potro especially if the match goes very long
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                                                • Stacocakes
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                                                  • 04-10-08
                                                  • 7126

                                                  #234
                                                  3 more break points kim wow

                                                  Shes on fire today and Li Na already has 12 unforced errors and we are in the fifth game haha
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                                                  • Stacocakes
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 04-10-08
                                                    • 7126

                                                    #235
                                                    I have some additional Kim at -450 in-play.Just trying to determine if I should let it ride out or take some Na Li +1400 to cover all my bets for the day....
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                                                    • Stacocakes
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                                                      • 04-10-08
                                                      • 7126

                                                      #236
                                                      +1550 Li right now. Taking some of that to offset my -450.Covers my parlay for the day as well
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                                                      • EaglesPhan36
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 12-06-06
                                                        • 71662

                                                        #237
                                                        Man I am so pissed BetPhoenix didn't offer the bracket odds for the women like they did for the men where I took that Tsonga bet. I had Clijsters in the semis and I'm sure her odds would have been fantastic. Still work left to do, but damn.
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                                                        • Stacocakes
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 04-10-08
                                                          • 7126

                                                          #238
                                                          For sure.The only threats to that bet was venus and that would have been factored into the odds to give you some even better value on Clijsters.Kim has been playing some great tennis and with the quality of play in the WTA lately,im glad she is back. SHe is showing these girls how to win
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                                                          • EaglesPhan36
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 12-06-06
                                                            • 71662

                                                            #239
                                                            I'm also glad that if she makes the semis, it'll give me a great hedge on Serena again if she is there. I actually hope Serena destroys Pennetta today because even with Clijsters' roll, she should get a big dog price vs. Serena in a Slam semi. I thought the best parlay today was Clijsters/Del Potro even though it didn't pay a lot.
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                                                            • Stacocakes
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 04-10-08
                                                              • 7126

                                                              #240
                                                              Clijsters wraps up the first set 6-2

                                                              2 breaks points now for Kim in the first game of the second set. **** another bet that I am going to have hedged out to early. Guess its all about profit and I try to guarantee as much profit as I can because if I leave bets to ride then I always get bitten in the ass...especially with WTA bullshit.Oh well. Better to win a lesser amount then to lose a good chunk

                                                              Break Kim. GSM this one
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                                                              • Stacocakes
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 04-10-08
                                                                • 7126

                                                                #241
                                                                Kim is 1-6 lifetime vs Serena, all matches were long ago

                                                                Judging by the odds available for reaching the finals on Betfair, you are looking at somewhere around -170 for Serena over Kim
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                                                                • Stacocakes
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                                                                  • 04-10-08
                                                                  • 7126

                                                                  #242
                                                                  Geez I dont even know if Li Na has won a game since I hedged my bet

                                                                  Looks like she is packed up and ready to go home
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                                                                  • Stacocakes
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 04-10-08
                                                                    • 7126

                                                                    #243
                                                                    Break Ni La.What the **** is kim doing
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                                                                    • Stacocakes
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                                                                      • 04-10-08
                                                                      • 7126

                                                                      #244
                                                                      Clijsters wins in two sets.Good girl
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                                                                      • Stacocakes
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                                                                        • 04-10-08
                                                                        • 7126

                                                                        #245
                                                                        JCF was broken....not good. I think the 10 dollar outright might be done before it had a chance haha
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