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  • frugalgambler
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    • 05-30-13
    • 3418

    #176
    Looks like my head was right: Djoker is steamrolling Murray. I should listen to my head more often.
    Seems like a public burial on Murray. I have not seen a single play on Djoker ATS posted anywhere, but I saw 5-6 plays posted on Murray at various places. Too bad.

    Addendum: looks like Djokovic is human after all. Good call, Jeff ! I think this is the first ATP match I am gonna watch in its entirety this year. A good one too.
    Last edited by frugalgambler; 05-08-16, 01:00 PM.
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    • Jeff_Black
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      • 04-04-15
      • 3571

      #177
      Thanks, it did seem to be a popular play amongst others. He was good enough to beat Nadal so in a way it's hard to see him losing to the Djoker who he should match up just as well with. Onward to Rome!
      And yeah I wasn't really a fan of that line 4.5. Most probably went along with the Murray line because of his Semi. I was more worried Djoker would win a set 6-1 or 6-0 heh.
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      • Jeff_Black
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        • 04-04-15
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        #178
        ATP Rome Masters 1000, R1
        Gael Monfils vs Tomaz Belluci
        Set Handicap: Gael Monfils -1.5 sets @ 1.657 on Pinnacle
        Stake: 1u play

        ATP Rome Masters 1000, R1
        Alexandr Dolgopolov vs Dominic Thiem
        Handicap: Alexandr Dolgopolov +4.0 @ 1.833 on Pinnacle
        Stake: 1u play

        ATP Rome Masters 1000, R1
        Ivo Karlovic vs Ernests Gulbis
        Handicap: Ernests Gulbis -2.0 @ 1.877 on Pinnacle
        Stake: 1u play
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        • fitguy67
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          • 03-13-11
          • 5082

          #179
          at end of Madrid

          114 87 +24.631 10.013% 246.00
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          • fitguy67
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            • 03-13-11
            • 5082

            #180
            2016 tennis threads, all settled non-pushed plays till post #178 above inclusive

            116 88 +25.341 +10.177% 249.00
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            • Jeff_Black
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              • 04-04-15
              • 3571

              #181
              Alright, new rule
              No backing French players this week, re-evaluate next week
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              • Jeff_Black
                SBR MVP
                • 04-04-15
                • 3571

                #182
                And instead i'll go the other way giving a bit of respect to another player who has done well on clay and this year in general. Damir isn't a spectacular player by any means. In fact I don't really rate his ceiling as much more then a top 30 or 25 player if that. But that doesn't mean he can punch above his weight and play well, especially against a mental midget like Chardy who is having an unspectacular year with several disappointing losses and a below .500 YTD on clay for the past 2 years. I'll take a bit of value at those odds and hopefully they reward me.

                ATP Rome Masters 1000, R1
                Jeremy Chardy vs Damir Dzuhmir
                Moneyline: Damir Dzuhmir @ 2.09 on Pinnacle
                Stake: 1u play

                ATP Rome Masters 1000, R2
                Lucas Pouille vs Ernests Gulbis
                Moneyline: Ernests Gulbis @ 2.15 on Pinnacle
                Stake: 1u play

                He may be coming off a string of several losses for whatever reasons but it seems like Gulbis has found his groove in Rome just in time for the French Open. I think the odds are a bit too generous for a mug like Pouille (having watched him in Madrid and also lose to Querrey) and probably because he beat him in their Madrid qualifying match. Two tiebreaks aint a bad result for a guy like Ernests who had no confidence so with some confidence under his belt and his dispatching of big man Ivo I'll take him to exact revenge in a match with higher stakes.

                ATP Rome Masters 1000, R2
                Kevin Anderson vs Juan Monaco
                Handicap: Kevin Anderson +3.0 @ 2.04 on Pinnacle
                Stake: 1u play
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                • Jeff_Black
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                  • 04-04-15
                  • 3571

                  #183
                  ATP Rome Masters 1000, R32
                  Richard Gasquet vs Andreas Seppi
                  Total Score: Over 20.0 @ 1.970 on Pinnacle
                  Stake: 1u play

                  ATP Rome Masters 1000, R32
                  Milos Raonic vs Nick Kyrgios
                  Moneyline: Milos Raonic @ 2.17 on Pinnacle
                  Stake: 1u play
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                  • fitguy67
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 03-13-11
                    • 5082

                    #184
                    all non-pushed plays in Jeff_Black 2016 threads up to & including #182

                    116 91 +22.341
                    +8.865% of 252u risked
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                    • Jeff_Black
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                      • 04-04-15
                      • 3571

                      #185
                      And for anyone wondering, no I'm calm. It's very easy to lose your cool after three bets in very winnable positions lose.
                      I think they just tend to even out over the course but I don't think I have had three like that happen to me on a given day.
                      Hate nothing more then people who let their emotions get out of control and can't believe these sort of things happen and threaten to quit betting midway through when what seemed to be a sure thing starts faltering.
                      Unfortunately nothing is ever like that and no one should expect their bets to win
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                      • Jeff_Black
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                        • 04-04-15
                        • 3571

                        #186
                        ATP Rome Masters 1000: Outright Betting
                        Novak Djokovic @ 1.735 on Pinnacle
                        Stake: 3u play

                        I'm very interested to see how he goes against Nadal/Kyrgios but he had little trouble in Madrid (a tournament he hasn't played in since the infamous blue clay fiasco) and as an already 4 times winner he knows what to do here. That said as loaded as the top half of the draw is there there is no one he will struggle with but I must admit a potential match up with Nadal or Kyrgios will be interesting...

                        ATP Rome Masters 1000, R16
                        Roger Federer vs Dominic Thiem
                        Total Score: Under 23.0 @ 1.909 on Pinnacle
                        Stake: 1u play

                        ATP Rome Masters 1000, R16
                        Richard Gasquet vs Kei Nishikori
                        Handicap: Kei Nishikori -3.0 @ 1.952 on Pinnacle
                        Stake: 1u play

                        ATP Rome Masters 1000, R16
                        Jeremy Chardy vs Andy Murray
                        Total Score: Over 20.0 @ 2.05 on Pinnacle
                        Stake: 1u play

                        ATP Rome Masters 1000, R16
                        Nick Kyrgios vs Rafael Nadal
                        Handicap: Nick Kyrgios +4.0 @ 1.862 on Pinnacle
                        Stake: 1u play
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                        • frugalgambler
                          SBR MVP
                          • 05-30-13
                          • 3418

                          #187
                          In his first match, Novak looked pretty bothered that he had to play in Rome. I think he would have paid a million bucks to fast forward this to RG. Not sure how much you can trust him, he would definitely sacrifice Rome to win RG. GL though.
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                          • fitguy67
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 03-13-11
                            • 5082

                            #188
                            all settled non-pushed plays up to & including post#186

                            117 95 +19.293 +7.507% 257.00

                            excellent read on nadal's current form going into RG via performance numbers (including some fascinating percentages that indicate if the old "clutch"ness is still there)

                            Last edited by fitguy67; 05-12-16, 11:15 PM.
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                            • Jeff_Black
                              SBR MVP
                              • 04-04-15
                              • 3571

                              #189
                              Originally posted by frugalgambler
                              In his first match, Novak looked pretty bothered that he had to play in Rome. I think he would have paid a million bucks to fast forward this to RG. Not sure how much you can trust him, he would definitely sacrifice Rome to win RG. GL though.
                              Tough draw for him, for sure
                              Hasn't looked convincing but is in the final nonetheless
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                              • Jeff_Black
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-04-15
                                • 3571

                                #190
                                ATP Rome Masters 1000, Final
                                Novak Djokovic vs Andy Murray
                                Handicap: Novak Djokovic -3.0 @ 1.909 on Pinnacle
                                Stake: 2u play

                                He's been battle hardened for this match despite not looking convincing at times. Playing two of the more in form players on clay this time around while Murray has rather had an embarrassingly easy route playing guys like Pouille and Chardy.
                                Will go the other way around this time compared to the overs. See how it goes
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                                • GoBlue77
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                                  • 03-20-11
                                  • 9166

                                  #191
                                  I'm going murray moneyline. I'm sure i will regret it but we'll see
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                                  • Jeff_Black
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 04-04-15
                                    • 3571

                                    #192
                                    Surely this is the chance he seeks. Best chance I'd reckon. Only worried about the pissweak draw hasn't given him the biggest measuring stick of where he is at, but oh well.
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                                    • frugalgambler
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 05-30-13
                                      • 3418

                                      #193
                                      I find your definition of "battle-hardened" to be funny. You say battle-hardened, I say completely exhausted.
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                                      • Jeff_Black
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 04-04-15
                                        • 3571

                                        #194
                                        Originally posted by frugalgambler
                                        I find your definition of "battle-hardened" to be funny. You say battle-hardened, I say completely exhausted.
                                        Haha I agree it's a weird way of looking at it but we all forget he played one three set match in Monte Carlo before having several days off. Hoping that the fact he is a professional tennis player who's job it is to keep in shape will pay off here 🤗
                                        Then as usual one week to put your feet up and rest up before RG.

                                        If there is a chance for Murray it is without a doubt now
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                                        • fitguy67
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 03-13-11
                                          • 5082

                                          #195
                                          updated to include the outright play at top of #186 as well as the bet on the final in #190

                                          after a crap day, still looking at a great year in the making

                                          117 97 +14.293 +5.455% 262
                                          any yield north of 3% is excellent...north of 5% as we have here (esp. after a cold snap) is brilliant
                                          Last edited by fitguy67; 05-15-16, 02:26 PM.
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                                          • Jeff_Black
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 04-04-15
                                            • 3571

                                            #196
                                            Thanks, yeah I decided to step away for a few days and recoup. Don't want to be going cold into the French but don't want a week long gap without following the tennis.
                                            So I'll be posting a couple of plays each day to be in the loop.

                                            Well done to those bold to back Murray, looked the fresher out of the two, really don't know what to make of RG now. But it'll be interesting

                                            ATP Geneva 250, R16
                                            Guillermo Garcia Lopez vs Rajeev Ram
                                            Set handicap: Guiilermo Garcia Lopez -1.5 sets @ 1.609 on Pinnacle
                                            Stake: 1u play

                                            ATP Geneva 250, R16
                                            Tomas Belluci vs Federico Delbonis
                                            Total Score: Over 22.5 @ 1.884 on Pinnacle
                                            Stake: 1u play
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                                            • frugalgambler
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 05-30-13
                                              • 3418

                                              #197
                                              GL, Jeff. Good to see you back. The draw at RG will be pretty important. With Djoker's luck he'll get Thiem or Monfils/Wawa/Nadal/Murray in the last four rounds.
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                                              • Jeff_Black
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 04-04-15
                                                • 3571

                                                #198
                                                Thanks, should be taking it easy this week heh. French will be brutal the first few days for the punters.

                                                ATP Nice 250, QF
                                                Kevin Anderson vs Joao Sousa
                                                Money line: Kevin Anderson @ 1.80 (Ladbrokes)
                                                Stake: 1u play
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                                                • Jeff_Black
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-04-15
                                                  • 3571

                                                  #199
                                                  ATP Nice 250, QF
                                                  Alexander Zverev vs Giles Simon
                                                  Money line: Alexander Zverev @ 2.38
                                                  On pinnacle
                                                  Stake: 2u play
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                                                  • Steamroller
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 11-30-12
                                                    • 1003

                                                    #200
                                                    Zverev Leads tie-break 5-0 and loses 6-8.
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                                                    • Lightning
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 05-15-16
                                                      • 647

                                                      #201
                                                      Man that was clutch! Had OVER 22.5, thought I was done and dusted.
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                                                      • Jeff_Black
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 04-04-15
                                                        • 3571

                                                        #202
                                                        Yeah I liked the over too but was worried about someone (ahem Simon) giving up
                                                        that said I've found him to be way too dodgy at times to take so Id rather fade him as a favourite
                                                        had 40-15 match points on Zverevs serve before blowing it

                                                        That said I was more disappointed I picked anderson, broken in both times in the same spot and the second up 40-0, we all know what he was thinking, happy to make up for it
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                                                        • fitguy67
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                                                          • 03-13-11
                                                          • 5082

                                                          #203
                                                          119 99 +15.662 +5.866% 267.00
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                                                          • Jeff_Black
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                                                            • 04-04-15
                                                            • 3571

                                                            #204
                                                            ATP Nice 250, QF
                                                            Adrian Mannarino vs Guido Pella
                                                            Set Handiap: Guido Pella -1.5 sets @ 1.97 on Pinnacle
                                                            Stake: 1u play
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                                                            • Jeff_Black
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 04-04-15
                                                              • 3571

                                                              #205
                                                              Tbh if Zverev lost in the winning spot was in I would have called in a week and regrouped for the french
                                                              three losses after being up a set and a winning position would have been cursed bad luck lol

                                                              nothing worse then feeling like your luck has to turn around! And then continuing to lose
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                                                              • Lightning
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 05-15-16
                                                                • 647

                                                                #206
                                                                Yeah I agree about Simon. I hate backing as well, but the fact that it was in France made me think he'd have a set in him, and Zverev's form and record against him made me think he'd grab one as well. Almost not to be haha
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                                                                • Jeff_Black
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 04-04-15
                                                                  • 3571

                                                                  #207
                                                                  If you were on the other side you'd think you're cursed lol. But I am keen to suss out the draw when it's out and hopefully Simon has a dime in the rough player he's up against. His French Open results are less then spectacular but hes been making 4R and 3R the last few years so he can win a few matches too.

                                                                  ATP Geneva 250, SF
                                                                  Stan Wawrinka vs Lukas Rosol
                                                                  Total Score: Over 20.0 @ 1.925 on Pinnacle
                                                                  Stake: 1u play

                                                                  ATP Nice 250, SF
                                                                  Joao Sousa vs Alexander Zverev
                                                                  Moneyline: Alexander Zverev @ 1.653 on Pinnacle
                                                                  Stake: 1u play
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                                                                  • Lightning
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 05-15-16
                                                                    • 647

                                                                    #208
                                                                    Bloody hell you have the luck of the devil, Jeff haha. Good work. Frustrated with Sousa, had him +2.5 and was going according to plan going into the third. Blown away.
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                                                                    • Jeff_Black
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 04-04-15
                                                                      • 3571

                                                                      #209
                                                                      Yeah I almost decided not to do it but I decided that Zverev was playing with enough confidence to be worth backing. Even at the inferior odds to what it'd usually be.

                                                                      Over 20.0 was a steal, with Rosol serving as well as he has been and an inconsistent Stan who seemed due to drop a set :P
                                                                      I thought it'd pan out a little differently but a wins a win
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                                                                      • fitguy67
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                                                                        • 03-13-11
                                                                        • 5082

                                                                        #210
                                                                        121 100 +16.240 +6.015% 270
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