EZStreet theft, deception and TheRx whitewashing Video (banned at TheRx)

**Fishhead** · 04-12-11, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

You can win 99.6% of the time???

Why have I been capping sports for 10 years? I should of been playing video poker????

99.6% winning percentage? How do you use perfect strategy? Do you count cards?

It's a 99.6% game............meaning, for every $100 played, one will lose 40 cents(longterm).

**scott235** · 04-12-11, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

You can win 99.6% of the time???

Why have I been capping sports for 10 years? I should of been playing video poker????

99.6% winning percentage? How do you use perfect strategy? Do you count cards?

Although I don't play video poker etc., I believe he meant 99.6 cents payback per dollar played.

**Fishhead** · 04-12-11, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by HedgeHog

Have you drawn your $$$ out of EZ yet, Fish.

Yes

**sharpcat** · 04-12-11, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by benjy

The hand histories need to be released. How can a play rate, or any other allegation, be established without this?

Why haven't they been released?

It's all pretty much moot anyway if DGS says there is no bot use anyway. This whole demonstration thing seems pointless, unless it's another tool to delay, or avoid, paying out the winnings.

Again, why haven't the hand histories been released?

To the best of my knowledge:

DGS never stated that a bot was not used. DGS never made any statements period the only statement that was heard was what Cory1111 told us that DGS told him over the phone which simply stated that there was nothing wrong with their software this had nothing to do with Cory1111's play.

**benjy** · 04-12-11, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by sharpcat

To the best of my knowledge:

DGS never stated that a bot was not used. DGS never made any statements period the only statement that was heard was what Cory1111 told us that DGS told him over the phone which simply stated that there was nothing wrong with their software this had nothing to do with Cory1111's play.

You might be right. It may just have been a refutation of the "overwhelming the RNG" allegation.

Hopefully someone with more knowledge that I will chime in.

**Scooter** · 04-12-11, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by sharpcat

Just because it is not your job to prove it does not mean that you just sit back and make no attempt to.

If I played 17.6 h.p.m. and did not use a bot and they accused me of it I would have tried every approach possible to find a happy median where both parties would feel comfortable meeting to prove that I could play at that rate.

From what I saw instead of trying to reach a happy median you just sat back and insulted easy and Wilheim on these boards thinking if you made enough noise they would bow down to you all while assuming that you were guaranteed a fair trial in an unregulated industry. Poor assumption on your part!!!

This is trivia. They were never going to pay him.

**Scooter** · 04-12-11, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by Justin7

I don't think there was any way Cory was getting paid. EZ never produced any real evidence that a bot was used. Despite this, EZ insisted that Cory prove his innocence by taking a test in Costa Rica that they could guarantee he would fail. They ignored any proposal (such as watching him play at DGS, or Shackleford's Vegas/Polygraph test) that would have any chance of the player getting a fair shake.

Their latest demand for apologies (for mostly things that never happened) reminds me of a kid throwing a temper tantrum after getting a time-out. No matter what Cory offers to do, nothing will come from this.

Agree.

**secretstash** · 04-12-11, 10:44 PM

why is cory not accepting ez's deal and apologizing? i dont get it

i think cory didnt use a robot.. but at this point he should do anything to get paid since the other way he gets paid 0 and just to prove a pt that ez is garbage?

-stash

**KGambler** · 04-12-11, 11:30 PM

Dullcat should be apologizing to Cory for spreading lies about him and claiming the source was SBR Lou.

**KGambler** · 04-12-11, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by sharpcat

you also, to the best of my knowledge, never made the Las Vegas offer or anything like it publicly until they concluded the case was closed.

I personally started a thread 3 weeks ago suggesting that you organize a demonstration with SBR on their DGS platform or some type of median and no one took interest in it. Not sure why you and Justin7 did not come out earlier and challenge them publicly and prove you could play this fast????? This is not the Supreme Court here you should have proven yourself, no reason not to unless you could not.

As usual, Dullcat is muddying the waters with his misinformation. This guy has really poor reading comprehension and can't follow along with what is happening. The problem is that he won't accept that he is clueless, and he just keeps writing like he is a competent poster, repeating the same mistakes over and over. Sadly, he is not even a shill with an agenda. He is like this in every topic. He just has no ******* clue what he is talking about.

Cory offered to travel to CR and do a demonstration of his VP play. SBR communicated the offer for him. EasyStreetSports rejected the offer, because they insisted he take a "lie detector test" administered by some Costa Rican guy they were gonna hire.

Again, you really do owe Cory an apology. This is not the first time you have spread misinformation about this dispute, always to the detriment of Cory's side of the issue.

**KGambler** · 04-12-11, 11:49 PM

Originally posted by secretstash

why is cory not accepting ez's deal and apologizing? i dont get it

i think cory didnt use a robot.. but at this point he should do anything to get paid since the other way he gets paid 0 and just to prove a pt that ez is garbage?

-stash

Read what easystreetsports.com wrote... They said that the issue was closed as far as they were concerned, but that they would consider reopening communications with Cory if he apologized. I don't know, it seems like they just want to muddy the waters and embarrass Cory. In my opinion, he should NOT apologize. It is not worth issuing a fake apology in order for them to "consider" doing an actual investigation.

**Justin7** · 04-12-11, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by sharpcat

I would love to see Easy give you the opportunity to demonstrate your ability and if you (or anybody for that matter) were to prove that this rate of play was achievable by a human I would be the first to extend my apologies for doubting you. I can not blame them for not having much interest as you not only went to great lengths to tarnish their reputation, and Wilheims, before a final decision was made but you also, to the best of my knowledge, never made the Las Vegas offer or anything like it publicly until they concluded the case was closed.

I personally started a thread 3 weeks ago suggesting that you organize a demonstration with SBR on their DGS platform or some type of median and no one took interest in it. Not sure why you and Justin7 did not come out earlier and challenge them publicly and prove you could play this fast????? This is not the Supreme Court here you should have proven yourself, no reason not to unless you could not.

sharpcat, are you serious? Every single pro player that sounded in said this was doable. Not a single pro player supported EZ's postion. But ignore that. EZ failed to offer any evidence of their claims. Ignore that. EZ promised to provide logs of his hand-play, but didn't. Don't ask why, and ignore that. After DGS told Alex Powers that there were no irregularities in Cory's play, EZ asked for time to do additional testing. EZ did not share the results of this additional testing. Don't ask why, and ignore that. Cory offered to prove his speed of play at DGS or SBR while being watched by EZ. EZ rejected that -- they wanted a polygraph test in Costa Rica first, that they could guarantee he would fail.. Cory offered a neutral polygraph test, and and proof of his play speed in Las Vegas. EZ rejected that, because their feelings were hurt.

I try to give posters every possible benefit of the doubt. But when I read your ----, I can only conclude that either your reading comprehension is far below your writing level, you are an EZ employee, or both. If I am wrong on either, I apologize in advance.

**Scooter** · 04-13-11, 12:04 AM

"sharpcat" continually proves one of the Basic Axioms of the Internet Gambling Forums:

Posters with "sharp", "expert", "pro", etc., in their handle - never are.

**LegitBet** · 04-13-11, 12:06 AM

Just a question that popped into my head from the previous page.
Was / is there an option for Wilheilm to recuse himself?
Seems like this could be the answer for all parties to feel ok and save face.

**Jaug** · 04-13-11, 12:49 AM

Good job justin.

**excel** · 04-13-11, 12:56 AM

SBR should set up a live stream / chat with the owner/cory. Have a little SBR chat room where we can spectate, possibly have dax make a line on the outcome...

**Fishhead** · 04-13-11, 06:52 AM

**skrtelfan** · 04-13-11, 07:17 AM

Originally posted by Justin7

sharpcat, are you serious? Every single pro player that sounded in said this was doable. Not a single pro player supported EZ's postion. But ignore that. EZ failed to offer any evidence of their claims. Ignore that. EZ promised to provide logs of his hand-play, but didn't. Don't ask why, and ignore that. After DGS told Alex Powers that there were no irregularities in Cory's play, EZ asked for time to do additional testing. EZ did not share the results of this additional testing. Don't ask why, and ignore that. Cory offered to prove his speed of play at DGS or SBR while being watched by EZ. EZ rejected that -- they wanted a polygraph test in Costa Rica first, that they could guarantee he would fail.. Cory offered a neutral polygraph test, and and proof of his play speed in Las Vegas. EZ rejected that, because their feelings were hurt.

I try to give posters every possible benefit of the doubt. But when I read your ----, I can only conclude that either your reading comprehension is far below your writing level, you are an EZ employee, or both. If I am wrong on either, I apologize in advance.

Not to mention, even if he did use a bot, who cares? The only advantage a bot would provide would be fulfilling the bonus requirement faster but he played well over the rollover requirement.

**cory1111** · 04-13-11, 07:19 AM

Wilheim where is my apology? You help steal 46k from me.

**Fishhead** · 04-13-11, 07:22 AM

Originally posted by skrtelfan

Not to mention, even if he did use a bot, who cares? The only advantage a bot would provide would be fulfilling the bonus requirement faster but he played well over the rollover requirement.

**secretstash** · 04-13-11, 07:31 AM

cory here is ur two options... (i have fought for u entire dispute btw)

option 1. keep bashing ez street and not apologize to wil (even if fake apology) - and u will never be paid.. ez street will ignore they stiffed u.. and they will give away ur 46k (or less) in a video poker contest.

or option 2 . (nothing to lose by doing this). - fake apologize to wil (to suffice ez).. then ex MAY or MAY NOT say ok we will accept ur vegas play as a re-trial.. and then u have a chance to prove urself... IF THEY THEN DENY U A CHANCE TO PLAY.. TRUST ME.. 100s of new people will jump on your side.. because easystreet now bated u and now THEY ARE HIDING and have no reason to not give u a chance ... u are agreeing to lie detectors and all their other scam tactics... so why now would they say no?? are they scared?????

PLEASE take option 2 and give urself a CHANCE.. and/or a chance for easystreet to LOOK WORSE than they already do if they dont accept ur offer.

-stash

**cory1111** · 04-13-11, 07:36 AM

I appreciate your help secretstash ,but trust me its another ploy by EZ. Not one person beside EZ and Wilheim think he deserves an apology for his actions.

**shari91** · 04-13-11, 07:43 AM

Cory, of course it's a ploy. But as you saw someone say on another forum: If it raises your chance of getting paid from 0% to maybe 2%, it might be worth it.

Hell, I don't know. I honestly think you're screwed here and you'll never see your cash from them, at least via these means - even if they reopened negotiations after your apology. But if you don't make that apology, the case is closed.

Unless you have a Plan G up your sleeve that you're working on behind the scenes which I honestly hope you do.

**secretstash** · 04-13-11, 07:44 AM

i may or may not agree with u.. but it doesnt matter.. u realize if u dont at least TRY the apology. u get NOTHING and easy feels they are getting away with murder.. atleast CHALLENGE these bastards and apologize and see what happens... u wont be paid if u dont.. worse that could happen if u do.. is u still dont get paid BUT easy embarrasses themselves and looks like WORSE SCUM then they already do.. trust me.. people would side with u.. if u take the next step and then they take a SCARED step back man... I know this would happen.

Please move forward and see if this company runs and hides

-stash

**Mammon** · 04-13-11, 07:53 AM

I am waiting a bit to go in and deposit at easy and take 5 k from them. Hit and run with no desire to stay there...

**Fishhead** · 04-13-11, 07:55 AM

Originally posted by Mammon

I am waiting a bit to go in and deposit at easy and take 5 k from them. Hit and run with no desire to stay there...

**Mammon** · 04-13-11, 08:02 AM

Only in spite.....

I doubt they would stiff 5 k now.

**wrongturn** · 04-13-11, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by shari91

Cory, of course it's a ploy. But as you saw someone say on another forum: If it raises your chance of getting paid from 0% to maybe 2%, it might be worth it.

Hell, I don't know. I honestly think you're screwed here and you'll never see your cash from them, at least via these means - even if they reopened negotiations after your apology. But if you don't make that apology, the case is closed.

Unless you have a Plan G up your sleeve that you're working on behind the scenes which I honestly hope you do.

The Plan G is to bump EZ threads daily

. I would think even he apologizes, it is unlikely for EZ to agree test on neutral site with neutral judge because EZ really has nothing to gain from it.

**shari91** · 04-13-11, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by wrongturn

The Plan G is to bump EZ threads daily

. I would think even he apologizes, it is unlikely for EZ to agree test on neutral site with neutral judge because EZ really has nothing to gain from it.

Yeah, EZ has already won as far as the cash is concerned. They've already proven they don't care about their public reputation so there's no motivation for them to negotiate again. If they did and pulled the same stunts, it only makes them look worse, if that's possible. And if they by some miracle changed their mind and gave Cory the money, they'd be admitting they've been full of crap the whole time and throwing Wilheim under the bus.

**yokspot** · 04-13-11, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by skrtelfan

Not to mention, even if he did use a bot, who cares? The only advantage a bot would provide would be fulfilling the bonus requirement faster but he played well over the rollover requirement.

Ahem...their whole (badly made) argument is that he used a 'bot, which is against their terms.

'Bots are synonymous with bonus hunters, which is why casinos don't like them.

The "apology" is more ES bullshit. BUT, if it would lead to a polygraph locally supervised by the casino and Mike Shakleford, I'd definitely go for it. Has Wilheim responded to this suggestion yet?

**cory1111** · 04-13-11, 08:28 AM

No his feelings are hurt. Yet it doesnt bother him that he helped Easystreet from day 1. Never even gave me a chance with his comments, decisions,etc...

**vitalyo** · 04-13-11, 08:30 AM

Remember we are dealing with a scums that never had any intention to pay!
Now they want Cory to apologize . Just to make it look good on them and Shilheim.They are about to go south and they need an excuse on whom to blame their fiasco .
This shit book later on will reopen under new name and surely they will blame Cory and SBR for ruining their reputation

They will use Cory apology !!!

Easystreet is a total scam .

Look again what they want Cory to do

We (EzStreet) refuse to engage in any further communication with cory1111 until he publicly apologizes to Wilheim, admitting that he did indeed ask for his help multiple times on this matter. He must post this on THERX, SBR and the other places he posted this garbage about a solid man, he must also publicly release SBR & Justin7 as his chosen mediators on this matter as we never at any time asked for their assistance or ever agreed for them to arbitrate.

Then and only then will we even consider moving forward on this issue, in a manner considered fair to all parties, as was, is and have always been our intentions since day one.

secretstash believe me there will be no 46k contest all they are doing is just buying some time and collecting deposits from losers .Even if they do , they will put ridiculous rollover and then go south.

If there was an award for the most "disgusting book" they would take it .

GL.

**HedgeHog** · 04-13-11, 08:37 AM

The window of opportunity for an apology is likely closed. And FWIW, I highly doubt it would have made a difference. EZ has the puppet decision it wanted and now wants to torture the victim with it. Really sick IMO.

**shari91** · 04-13-11, 08:47 AM

No vitalyo, I'm trying to put myself in his shoes and see what I'd do. It's very easy to say "don't make the apology" or whatever but it's not our money.

As far as the "case being open/closed 10 times already", I'm not sure what you're referring to. Other than EZ saying within the same post it's their final decision and then saying if Cory apologises, they'll consider moving forward, I've been under the impression that everything was always up in the air throughout it all, with one side always waiting on the other ie EZ asking for more time, for Cory to make a decision re the polygraph and trip to Costa Rica, for Wilheim to make his ruling, for EZ Street to reply about Shackleford and Vegas, etc.

If you've seen where this case has been closed prior, please enlighten us.

**BigFish** · 04-13-11, 08:57 AM

I don't think the window of opportunity is closed. And I think Wil was kind of into the idea of the Vegas Showdown that Cory proposed. Cory, I really think you have absolutely nothing whatsoever to lose, and $46k to gain (even if only a small chance) by issuing the apology. It's not like you have apologize to the folks at Sleazy Street!

Just issue an apology, and Sleazy Street's feet will be back to the fire. Everything Shari said above is true -- they'll look even worse if and when they get their silly apology, only to deny a fair testing at a neutral venue. I think they might actually accept the offer, as this PR nightmare may be hitting them hard in wallet.