Then ask me this? If Wilheim knows hes in the wrong and feels so bad about this situation, why hasnt he put the wheels in motion to get this matter resolved ,or reverse his decision?
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You're asking a question you already know the answer to, as does everyone with a clue.
You're wasting your time worrying about Wilheim at this point. Yes he treated you like shit by condemning you from the start but spending energy focused on him and what he's done wrong will get you nowhere now.
The only thing for you to do is decide about the apology. Screw everything else. Maybe talk to Justin privately if you haven't already and get his take on it. Again, it's easy for people to say that you shouldn't apologise or whatever. We all know you shouldn't have to. And it most likely will get you nowhere anyway, but the thing is none of us know what will happen with 100% certainty and it's not our money involved.Comment -
I think you're a bit confused here vitalyo. Have you even been following this?? I have since day 1, across 3 forums.
They DID go with Shilheim's decision. And then Cory posed another suggestion to them - Shackleford monitoring the poly - which is when they came back with the apology idea. So thankfully, they at least opened the door a teeny bit even though the majority of us believe it's sadly another one of their bullshit stunts.
I'm not caught in any EZ lies and if anything I'm trying to get Cory to consider all angles to this before making a decision about the apology. This is a lot of money. Not yours and not mine. Cory's.Comment -
I will just say this. Before I even asked one person regarding the apology, I didnt think it was a good idea or in my best interest. Anyone who has helped me in this case or someone who is neutral in this matter,has said not to apologize to Wilheim.Comment -
Then that's what you should go with. The only thing you can do is what you feel is the right thing, even moreso if people whose opinions you trust have said the same thing.
Regardless, you have many, many people in forum land on your side. Even many who initially thought you shouldn't get your cash because of things in the past, have now realised you have been robbed. I know that doesn't mean much since we can't get your cash back for you, but we can at least help you ensure everyone knows what they did to you whenever their name is mentioned in the future. Again, I hope some bloody miracle happens and those fukking thieves pay you.Comment -
Now Wilheim can put on his resume , I helped Easystreetsports steal 46k from someone. When he brings up to a forum I helped so many people in disputes he knows his name will always be synonymous in this fiasco.Comment -
You don't make a "ruling" on something like this then say you will "consider" to delay that ruling based on an apology - especially when all signs point to the book not budging on this decision. I think while you all's hearts are in the right place, you are giving EZ way too much credit in this matter. All they have done from day one is basically say they feel Cory did something foul and have no intention of paying... Someone tell me why the **** an apology would change that outcome now?
I don't know if you guys are just that optimistic, or blind...but the writing is all over the walls here, Cory has no shot, ESPECIALLY SINCE I'M WILLING TO BET THEY KNOW IT WILL BE AT BEST A HOLLOW APOLOGY TO BEGIN WITH.
Come on now, Shari & Stash...you both know better than this, right? You are grasping at straws here...nothing will become of an apology at this point and you know it.
Cory, I know you have already chosen the path you choose to walk on this matter, I say keep walking it.Comment -
You are 100% right. Even if they turned around tomorrow and gave you the cash, the damage is done to all of them and it's not just minor damage. I actually think they assumed they could discredit you, everyone would side with them and you'd fade away. But they underestimated gamblers on forums. Too many intelligent people and most with memories that date back years.
Your case is a perfect example of that. This will never go away.Comment -
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cory what you are writing isn't helping.
I can't imagine your pain.
But stop with the jabs. it's making it worse.
Eat some crow, stop posting on forums, and do what they are asking.Comment -
EZ will use any apology as an admission of guilt to verify its puppet decision. Don't do it.Comment -
You won they should pay, so simple. If anything the fuks should apologize to you.
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Great advice
Unless you wanna discredit Cory and SBR , ruin Justin7 work ,all hours that he put in it to prove that Cory1111 didn't do anything wrong .
My dear the book is bankrupt!Regardless, you have many, many people in forum land on your side. Even many who initially thought you shouldn't get your cash because of things in the past, have now realised you have been robbed. I know that doesn't mean much since we can't get your cash back for you, but we can at least help you ensure everyone knows what they did to you whenever their name is mentioned in the future. Again, I hope some bloody miracle happens and those fukking thieves pay you.
All they need Cory1111 apology for them to look good and Shilheim needs it , he is 63 not much time left to recover his lousy reputation .
SBR cut them lying on many occasions , they have zero grounds not to pay him .
Justin proved it , software provider couldn't find anything wrong WizardOfOdds backed Cory ,Bob Dancer on RX expert :- In my opinion, all credibility of this witness is lost on this point. A 1 in 710 chance is not "statistically impossible." To at least partially hinge their case on this reason brings shame to ESS, in my opinion.
- Here the expert is saying that 1.3 seconds of each average 3.4 seconds per hand was spent drawing the hand. I'd prefer to actually play the game myself or see a video before commenting on this.
- So now the expert alleges that the player played to "overwhelm the RNG and provide favorable odds to the 'player.'" Come again? I didn't know that random number generators would get tired at a rate of play of one hand every 3.4 seconds and start passing out royals in frustration. Sorry, I have been programming computers for 30 years and have never heard of such RNG fatigue.
Finally, I've never heard of an expert testimony where the so-called expert's name was not disclosed.
A**holes are playing mind games with Cory
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Counterfeit, I've said several times I personally believe the apology is just another stunt and will get him nowhere closer to getting his cash. But I also can't say with all certainty what I'd do if I were in his shoes because I'm not in them. I'd most likely just talk to Justin and probably SBR John, and listen to their advice either way.
I do know though as far as Cory specifically is concerned, I will politely direct people to this thread in the future should they ask a question about this book on the forum or privately.
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why cant they just slow pay the guy? anything.
pay him $100 a month if you dont have the money.
quit scamming people ezcheats.Comment -
How much worse can it really get? Eating crow will not change anything....you know something I don't?
I don't mean to become "that guy," but some of this stuff i'm reading makes no sense at all...They already drug Cory's name through the mud - hell, Cory helped do that himself already due to all the charge-backs, what more can he do at this point that hasn't already been done? His reputation as a seedy fellow was in question to begin with...seriously now, man. At this point all that is in the forefront is a seedy guy allegedly won 46k legit, and a suspect book may or may not have stolen said 46k from him....
you tell me how that tagline can get any worse.Comment -
Show me how EZ will take the following statement and use it as an admission of guilt.
"To EZ and Will. Things have really gotten out of hand here with all the he said, she said. Things have been said and written by me that shouldn't have been. I can't take back some of the things I have written and said, but if I could, i would. This is harming the RX, EZ and me. For what ever part i have played in that, i am sorry. I have made some errors in how I have handled this. Hind site as they say, is 20/20.
I feel it is everyones best intrest if we can resolve this amoung our selves, and once we reach a resolution, annoince it on all the fourms. I wish to open a private dialog with all parties envolved and reach an agreement.
I am extending an olive branch. I hope you accept it
Sincerly and respectfully yours
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Vitalyo - did you see me post "Hell, I don't know". I don't know. Neither do you. Please stop twisting my words and seriously cut it out with the bullshit about discrediting Justin or SBR. That doesn't even make sense. They asked for an apology for him supposedly treating Wilheim like shit. They didn't ask him to come out and say the facts SBR presented are wrong, because they can't: they're the truth. Please go educate yourself about this entire case instead of posting nonsense. Maybe start from the beginning.
And do you have proof the book is bankrupt? I tend to believe they don't have the cash but no one I trust ie Justin, John, Lou, etc have said that. Until they do, I can only assume.
I think you have me confused with someone who likes Easystreet Sports. Do you see where I'm employed? And do you see how they treated Justin and SBR? I probably dislike them more than most on here.Last edited by shari91; 04-13-11, 12:31 PM.Comment -
I've seen where you chimed in and I could be wrong, but I did see where you mentioned he probably should consider the apology, that was what I was referring to. I don't contest that you have been straight down the middle with your input, which is good for a situation like this one...that one particular instance bugged me though. I'm not attacking you over it, i'm just reinforcing the fact that I thing this thing is done on EZ's side...and it's a shame. It would take some real bullying at this point to change that book's mind - especially after all the posturing they did to validate their stance.Counterfeit, I've said several times I personally believe the apology is just another stunt and will get him nowhere closer to getting his cash. But I also can't say with all certainty what I'd do if I were in his shoes because I'm not in them. I'd most likely just talk to Justin and probably SBR John, and listen to their advice either way.
I do know though as far as Cory specifically is concerned, I will politely direct people to this thread in the future should they ask a question about this book on the forum or privately.Comment -
Wilhelm got involved in something he know little about and did not take the time to find out:
I think he has no understanding of what a Bot really is did they test one against the EZ Street software to see if it was even possible to use and play at that rate of speed?
I heard also that system may have been possibly compromised and RNG possibly compromised - Has EZ Street confirmed or denied this? they should certainly know if their system was compromised?
Did Cory play perfect Strategy? Lots of discussion but no proof or confirmation
Was it possible to play that fast? Was anyone tested? Has this been confirmed if this is possible? Expert testimoney was shaky at best
Heard also he did not take breaks for long periods of time but I guess that turned about to be false, also not taking break after hitting royals but I thought I read that was also false (not that I think that is rellevant?)
Lots of open questions not sure how anyone could make a ruling at this time. This apology crap is just a joke are we talking about a bunch of whiny kids that have gotten their feelings hurt, Man up and prove that he used a bot or pay him. Where is the proof?Comment -
Nah, it's all good.
I did say he should consider it because from his posts here and elsewhere, he seemed to be entirely focussed on Wilheim and why he shouldn't have to apologise. And while I agree with him that he shouldn't have to do it, as does basically everyone else, I wanted him to consider every side to making a decision like this and what the potential outcomes may be. His posts were coming across as focusing more on the emotional side of it, which we all know doesn't really help. That's why I suggested talking to people he trusts about it, maybe even Justin. We're all just strangers on the Internet so while we may have opinions, we're rather inconsequential in the whole scheme of things.
However, he finally made a statement to me in this thread about how he has talked to others about it and they agree with him. He hasn't revealed that before now. And that's all I needed to hear.
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I fallowed the case from day one and didn't miss one post nor trend .
My dear you are pissed . Did you just realized you are giving Cory a very bad advice that will do nothing but the damage not just Cory but the whole SBR organization?
I am glad you did !
If they were not a bankrupt they would pay Cory .I tend to believe they don't have the cash but no one I trust ie Justin, John, Lou, etc have said that. Until they do, I can only assume.
SBR can't make statement like that . But i can !
I don't have to wait for them to go belly up to make statement .
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How in the hell would Cory writing an apology to Wilheim for being supposedly mean to him on forums damage SBR? Did you read the example apology boatboatboat wrote? Please explain that to me.
And for the last time: I DID NOT TELL CORY TO APOLOGISE. I told him to consider it. As in consider every option and think about it. Talk to people he trusts. Think about every angle and then make a decision. As rational people should do in a situation like this.
And if we're both right and Easystreet Sports goes bankrupt, I'll say a cheers to you when I'm drinking a glass of Champagne in celebration. Until then, we're just taking a guess but I hope we're right.Last edited by shari91; 04-13-11, 12:32 PM.Comment -
Shari, you are a wonderful writer.Comment -
I think he was being sarcastic because I've written so much today
But I've sat mainly quiet this whole time because there really wasn't much for me to say that others hadn't already. Now though, after seeing his posts since the apology request was made, I felt I should at least suggest he consider everything and talk to people before making a decision as he appeared to be focusing too much on Wilheim and not enough on the implications of the apology itself. I'm happy he finally commented about that, however.
Regardless of his past, whatever that may be, I actually feel badly for the guy. There have been a lot of people condemning him before this even started and although that group has dwindled quite significantly, some still are. But when a lot of people jumped ship to his side after realising he was being shafted, it was basically too late. I wish I could think of some way to get them to pay his bloody money but I've been wracking my brain for 2 days and can't come up with any sort of angle here to at least shift a little power in his favour. Hopefully he does or someone else can though.
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Not to mention......
1) They invented an expert to back them up, who can't be named (since he doesn't exist)
2) Said "expert" claimed that cory's 3 royals were statistically impossible (actually 1 in 57)
3) Said "expert" calculated this using a completely dishonest number of hands, and even then got it totally wrong.
4) They won't release the hand history
There's incompetence, which they've demonstrated plenty of. However the above is flat out dishonesty in an attempted justification.
They were clearly never going to pay.Last edited by HeeeHAWWWW; 04-13-11, 11:06 AM.Comment -
Just pop in and say sorry for acting like I was being robbed for almost 50k , sorry that I asked someone to look into it and possibly help me not the sponsor , sorry that when I found out I was getting robbed I said mean things against the robbers. Sorry I ever asked for help , sorry i hit RF's , and sorry that I wont fly to a foriegn country to undergo a test that is in no way neutral to me and my case. Sorrt i ever deposited at EZ and exposed them as the cheats they are. SorryComment
