Pretty much sums it up. The guy is a thief. He only gets support here, because no player wants to be treated by a book like he was in this case. But he doesn't deserve that type of support. He got what was coming. And so did the book with the negative publicity. Stick in a fork in them as well. Justice done. Case shut.
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Pretty much sums it up. The guy is a thief. He only gets support here, because no player wants to be treated by a book like he was in this case. But he doesn't deserve that type of support. He got what was coming. And so did the book with the negative publicity. Stick in a fork in them as well. Justice done. Case shut.Comment -
Yup. No sympathy for cory.
However, books feeling the pressure to pay out honestly is a good thing for all gamblers - SBR, wizardofoffs and so on help sustain that pressure. Other books will surely see what's happened to Ezstreet and be less likely to behave that way in future.Comment -
I see that SBR has downgraded easystreet for their casino scam. however, why is betfair still A?
betfair botched casino bonus promo update
betfair (SBR rating A) update. On 12/3, SBR reported that betfair offered players a "Happy Hour" casino promotion on November 13th. The promo allowed for unlimited bonus credits provided that players could satisfy the 10X casino rollover.
A player deposited €300 with betfair on November 13th. The player repeatedly used the Happy Hour bonus, eventually betting €1000 a hand. He increased his balance up to €32,071 Euro with the help of the promotion, which allowed unlimited bonuses. He successfully withdrew the money to his checking account, where it was credited on November 16th. On November 18th, betfair debited his bank account for €32,071 without his consent or any warning. betfair gave no explanation for the debit. SBR has requested comments from both betfair and the player's bank. To date, neither has offered any comment. | betfair voids funds of casino promo winners
12/3/2010 01:30 PM
betfair voids funds of casino promo winners
betfair (SBR rating A) players have notified SBR of a botched casino promotion. betfair offered players a "Happy Hour" casino promotion on November 13th. Players were given a 50% bonus (up to £100) if they transferred funds into the casino for the 1-day special. The promotion required a 10X rollover which had to be met in twelve hours. betfair advertised that this special could be used unlimited times; a player could transfer £200 into the casino 100 times, earn a £10,000 bonus, and would be entitled to retain his bonus provided the rollover was finished in twelve hours. However, betfair allowed players to play games such as Casino Hold Em with this promo, wich has just a 2% house edge. This enabled savvy players to quickly fulfill their rollover, then redeposit to the casino to again receive a bonus. betfair's terms specifically allowed the promotion to be redeemed unlimited times during the 1-day window. Once betfair recognized how unprofitable and poorly structured the promotion was, they began to seize casino winnings from players accounts. | betfair Casino complaintComment -
Cory, if you can muster the fortitude to be highly pragmatic, PM me and I will get your money.
Apologies to all reading this and me not showing my hand, and all will be explained in due course,
My approach will work, but it requires I high degree of discretion right now.Comment -
Gun for hire? Mob extortion on its own mob? lol Didn't Merlino back in the day place large bets in the books he owned himself? Good luck on that.Comment -
So easystreet refuses to pay a player with a ********** history on an overly generous casino promotion and blocks Justin7's video from being posted on the RX and they get their rating downgraded 2 times from C to D+ and than from D+ to D 10 days later although they have no other reported issues.
Betfair refuses to pay a player the same amount as easystreet due to an overly friendly casino promotion and blocks justin7's video from youtube and their rating does not budge at all from being rated A even though they had another complaint of confiscating player funds 6 months prior.
In all honesty someone has some explaining to do here, how do 2 shops commit the exact same crime yet not only does SBR not penalize Betfair at all but they also do not start a smear campaign either.
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Sharpcat, there is no smear campaign against EZ, let's make that perfectly clear.Comment -
Betfair has earned the benefit of the doubt until definitive evidence has betrayed the nature of the accusationSo easystreet refuses to pay a player with a ********** history on an overly generous casino promotion and blocks Justin7's video from being posted on the RX and they get their rating downgraded 2 times from C to D+ and than from D+ to D 10 days later although they have no other reported issues.
Betfair refuses to pay a player the same amount as easystreet due to an overly friendly casino promotion and blocks justin7's video from youtube and their rating does not budge at all from being rated A even though they had another complaint of confiscating player funds 6 months prior.
In all honesty someone has some explaining to do here, how do 2 shops commit the exact same crime yet not only does SBR not penalize Betfair at all but they also do not start a smear campaign either.
EZStreet has not.Comment -
I am actually in the process of organizing a smear campaign against EZ.Comment -
Betfair voids funds of casino promo winners
12/3/2010 1:30:58 PM
Betfair (SBR rating A) players have notified SBR of a botched casino promotion. Betfair offered players a "Happy Hour" casino promotion on November 13th. Players were given a 50% bonus (up to £100) if they transferred funds into the casino for the 1-day special. The promotion required a 10X rollover which had to be met in twelve hours. Betfair advertised that this special could be used unlimited times; a player could transfer £200 into the casino 100 times, earn a £10,000 bonus, and would be entitled to retain his bonus provided the rollover was finished in twelve hours. However, Betfair allowed players to play games such as Casino Hold Em with this promo, wich has just a 2% house edge. This enabled savvy players to quickly fulfill their rollover, then redeposit to the casino to again receive a bonus. Betfair's terms specifically allowed the promotion to be redeemed unlimited times during the 1-day window. Once Betfair recognized how unprofitable and poorly structured the promotion was, they began to seize casino winnings from players accounts. | Betfair Casino complaint
Betfair casino player complaints:
Player #1: A player received 2500 gbp in bonuses at Betfair’s casino, and met the rollover requirement for £2000. The terms allowed 12 hours for him to meet rollover, but £500 in stacked bonuses were removed from his account. The next day, his account was locked. Betfair debited his account all the bonuses, but left him with the casino losses. This lowered his balance to £-745.57 balance. Betfair then wrote the player, stating “Please fund your account with the negative balance amount of -£745.57 at the first opportunity. Failure to do so by 26 November 2010, may result in us taking the appropriate action to recover this sum from you. “
Player #2: A player earned £2200 in casino bonuses under the Happy Hour promotion, and stacked some to play later. Betfair removed the stacked bonuses, and debited his account for £2393.26, which included £2200 in earned bonuses, and £193.26 in net winnings.
Player #3: A player received £500 in bonuses at Betfair's casino. The T&C for the Happy Hour promotion allowed the player 12 hours to meet the rollover to convert the bonus to cash. The bonuses were removed from the player's account after a few hours before he could convert them.
Player #4: A player received a £100 gbp casino bonus. The player logged out for a few hours, and found the bonus missing when he returned.
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SBR received 3 complaints about players registering for Betfair’s “loss back” promotion, which ran from October 7th through October 11th. The promotion required players to bet at least £50 per day for 5 days. If the player did this, the promotion would reimburse the player a portion of his losses. In all three cases, Betfair refused to reimburse the players for their losses. Players reported that Betfair refused to reimburse them $1000, $1039.35 and €630 respectively.Comment -
I agree downgrade betfair also. I always thought if they were based in London someone could just sue them?Comment -
Look! Over there! What's that! Betfair! OMG!
(I'm trying to distract you from Easystreet Sports dishonesty)
Didn't work did it? All the evidence presented here still makes Easystreet Sports out to be scumbags.Comment -
EZ street lied many times trying to defend themselves. In EZ's case, the promo did not matter -- they player blew so far past rollover, he was a huge -EV player. Betfair did not lie during dispute resolution.So easystreet refuses to pay a player with a ********** history on an overly generous casino promotion and blocks Justin7's video from being posted on the RX and they get their rating downgraded 2 times from C to D+ and than from D+ to D 10 days later although they have no other reported issues.
Betfair refuses to pay a player the same amount as easystreet due to an overly friendly casino promotion and blocks justin7's video from youtube and their rating does not budge at all from being rated A even though they had another complaint of confiscating player funds 6 months prior.
In all honesty someone has some explaining to do here, how do 2 shops commit the exact same crime yet not only does SBR not penalize Betfair at all but they also do not start a smear campaign either.Comment -
I think people from most major cities know that if they play with a local book PPH or Postup joint thats Connected, and the boss says not to pay you for whatever reason well then you ain't getting paid and there ain't sht you can do about it. Ask JJ what happens to someone if they find out a guy who has stiffed in the past is owed money from a bookie across the bridge. Cory is lucky if he just gets stiffed.Comment -
He wagered 22,000 X $25 (I think that's correct), so a total of $550,000. He received $2500 in bonuses, so to negate them on a -0.46% game he'd need to wager just under that amount (with optimal play). So he was about breakeven in terms of EV, assuming those figures are all correct.
The promo is actually central to the matter in the wider picture. If ES didn't offer such soft bonuses, giving away so much +EV, they wouldn't have found themselves in this position. It's an object lesson for clueless sportsbooks in the value to be had in getting a clue. Our OP did not contribute to the EV drain, however.
<off topic> And FTR Betfair did lie - they talked about "suspect wagering", which is nonsense. There is also at least one court case in the UK coming up in June where they'll be held to account for this. But that's another matter. </off topic>Comment -
The only entity claiming he stiffed a bunch of books is the RX, who've shown they cannot be trusted. Merely having "done chargebacks" in the past doesn't prove anything as he could have charged back after a book stiffed him. In fact a couple of times when I was stiffed years ago, back when ************ were a common method of deposit, the stiffing book that ran out of money said "Well at least some people were able to do chargebacks and get some of their money book." Dutch Boyd from the stiff poker site Pokerspot told his players to do chargebacks and then claimed that counted as him having paid his players.
I find it very hard to believe the player actually "stiffed 21 books" or is "banned from 80% of all A rated sportsbooks" when the RX hasn't named a single one of these books.Comment -
Why is the word "cred-t c-rd" censored? It's not like I mentioned a specific one.Comment -
bumpComment -
coolest thread of the month!
Thief gets robbed! news at 9Comment -
Perhaps TheRX will change their ruling in due time.Comment -
Wilhem made a killing when he got paid of by the book
Wilhelm is pure white gutter trash
How much has he stole from RX players the last 5 years??
Well I will tell you
how about $300,000
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wouldnt be suprised if Wilheim or Marty Jensen was a silent partner over at Easystreet.Comment -
Wouldn't be surprised if you don't have a life.Comment -
posting is a very simple process stevey..takes about 6seconds of my life each time.Comment -
So sad.Comment -
yes it is this whole situation ...so tell your boy Powers to pay me. I want this over as fast anyone. But I will not walk away from it I promise.Comment -
For someone who received a death threat over all of this and that same person in a rush to contact the FBI I find it rather curious that you are still bumping these threads constantly. What did the FBI recommend? Did you also inform them about your history with other sportsbooks?Comment
