5dimes done with US market Sept 25th *Merged Threads*

[R19]

Where is the publicly disclosed landmark change in US gaming law of late? I have not seen any. Five must have been given an offer they could not refuse. They then put out a positive statement on what they most likely were forced to do. Who knows? Maybe they are moving ahead of the curve on a soon to be released announcement. I first heard of Five back in the early zeros so it is surprising to see such a sudden change.

Wise and benevolent .guv leadership is par for the course.... crap. Some recent positive steps on opening up sports to 'Merica that I first thought might take a few years are better measured in decades.

Funny watching all the card houses in California desperately trying to stay positive against an impossible situation when their very own representative lobbying organization pounded the table to the state to have them all close again back in July. And all agreed to ridiculous arrangements like having ALL chips change over EVERY SINGLE dealer change and outdoor and temporary housing in the form of tents or temporary buildings are new and different form... wait for it... a building.

There is so much more than meets the eye on anything associated with anything, but with gaming it is a decisive and deliberate choice to have the conditions in 'Merica we have today. Could be the smart move is just move to LV baby because Jersey is a tough swallow or get out.

[rlouisk]

Put first btc po request 9/14, 9/16 + 9/20, total 940. never had payout w 5D in the 3 months been with them. Have not Received any email from them. Status just shows REQUESTED. any thoughts should I send them picture of ID. THX

[korbal29]

Why would you say that? What would constitute someone getting stiffed? Unless you have different info, there's seemingly really good reason to believe that the chances of getting stiffed are high. Just because people are getting paid (what you are saying) doesn't mean there are those that aren't.

If they gonna stiff, no one would had been paid!!! So show me one person who didnt get paid

[DoucheBagWhoBets]

One of our representatives will be with you shortly. You are number 37 in the queue. Your wait time will be approximately 19 minute(s). Thank you for your patience.

[DoucheBagWhoBets]

If they gonna stiff, no one would had been paid!!! So show me one person who didnt get paid

I'm 1-person that has not been given "My Money". Believe me, I'm not lying. I wouldn't be living in this thread if not.

[Slowbalt]

I haven't gotten my last payment either still waiting. Requested on 9/13.

[DU46]

Received the verification email last night. I responded quickly and now waiting for the payout. Today is day 12 since I requested my payout.

[ParlayTeaser]

Not looking good.


Leaning that I'm gonna get stiffed about $8000 all together

You'll get paid. Make sure you follow everything in their complicated withdrawal process and your information matches and you'll get your money.

[milwaukee mike]

Received the verification email last night. I responded quickly and now waiting for the payout. Today is day 12 since I requested my payout.

ok sounds like it is up to about 12 days then

day 9 and waiting here, like others in the thread

no idea how everyone is gonna be paid by the 30th if the wait time is this long, and getting longer

[Starion]

Day 8 for me. Still waiting for a confirmation email.

[DontTailMe]

I'm 1-person that has not been given "My Money". Believe me, I'm not lying. I wouldn't be living in this thread if not.

I think his point is that they haven’t stopped paying people yet. So it’s impossible for you or anyone to know if they won’t be paid or simply haven’t been paid yet. Once the payments stop, then there’s cause for concern.

If they didn’t want to pay people then no one would be getting paid at all. The delays are normal. The reported payouts are a good sign.

[RudyRuetigger]

I think his point is that they haven’t stopped paying people yet. So it’s impossible for you or anyone to know if they won’t be paid or simply haven’t been paid yet.

Once the payments stop, then there’s cause for concern.

isnt the 25th end date?


Lets hope you all get paid by then


or 30th



Will 5dimes allow you to take them to a 3rd party?

[DontTailMe]

isnt the 25th end date?


Lets hope you all get paid by then


or 30th



Will 5dimes allow you to take them to a 3rd party?

25th is the end date for you or me to make a request.

Yes, they’ve said that unclaimed funds will be handed over to an administrator on the 30th, but it’s not clear that this includes funds which are only in their possession because they haven’t completed processing payouts yet. I would hope that they only mean funds which are not attached to active payout requests, but we obviously need confirmation of that.

[nyplayer33]

If they intend on going into the us market as they claim and others, stiffing players would be the last thing they would do. Totally understand the panic...ive been thru alot of this type of stuff and much worse. Poker sites before full tilt, sportsbook etc...its now clear its the risky landscape of dealing with off shore..very very very disappointing

[milwaukee mike]

Really apologizing for their outright theft. It's not hurting some and benefiting others. It's literally penetrating stealing from countless customers. Some people are getting the benefit of that theft and its a small portion. That part doesn't even need to be addressed or does it have its merit. Their decision was to penetrate and steal from customers. Then lie to them. Then act like they don't understand. They are crooks and you're a pos doing their dirty work making up excuses for it.

Seriously, do you think it saves them time to leave futures bets open during the week instead of freerolling customers on them? They were out to steal. They did. Every which way. It has nothing to do with time. They literally take the time to review the bets and refund them or not.

everyone should be free to voice their opinion without the name calling and arguing... which is what you used to think when it was OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY and OTHER PEOPLE'S FUTURES, and you tell people to get a life ... when it became about your money then it's the end of the world

07-15-20 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DontTailMe
You don't like it when someone posts irrelevant garbage in your thread, huh? Maybe you should practice what you preach.



I feel so bad for you. To spend all day long here pontificating and arguing with people. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. I hope you get a life.

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[RedApples]

If you give 5Dimes a second chance in any way, then know the risk you are taking. This is the course of red flags as I saw them over the past year. This is what in my opinion led them to make this fake 'shut down' so that they didn't need to pay out ANY of the exposure they had on futures markets, which on all accounts seems to be an extremely high number. It is likely they could not cover it for reasons below. Citing sources for the points but not necessary to click them. I have more individual cases for incorrectly grading wagers, grading bets improperly, and many issues that were also red flags but I'm going to try to lay out the main points for brevity sake.

1. The book was notoriously slow on Cash-Outs when the rest of the bookmaking world was getting close to within 24 hours across the board

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3565332-how-earth-5dimes-1-sportsbook.html

2. 5Dimes skimming on BTC deposits & withdraws. Large amount of players were witnessing that when they sent BTC to 5Dimes, they were given less than their deposit due to fluctuation, but never more. Which later got worse with 5Dimes charging out of the blue for BTC withdraws.

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3571152-bitcoin-deposit-withdrawal-fluctuations.html

3. 5Dimes starts banning customers & cancelling bets out of the blue for 'betting bad lines' on futures. Another sign that the book wasn't running smoothly. The amount of line errors and the handling of the errors was getting silly for a top book.

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3573787-just-got-banned-5dimes-betting-bad-line-1-rated-sportsbook-huh.html

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3577922-cancelled-nhl-futures-bets-5dimes.html

4. 5Dimes holding onto funds during the pandemic issue. Not understanding the difference between a postponement and a cancellation.

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3595883-anyone-having-problems-5dimes.html

5. 5Dimes Coronabonus. When it became very clear that this dysfunctional horribly run Sportsbook was hurting for funds and needed more badly. During this time they were holding onto funds and massively delaying payouts. (post 4)

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3596001-5dimes-15-corona-bonus-now-19-see-post-76-a.html

6. 5Dimes announces withdraw fees for BTC. This was the final straw to notice where things were going. They needed money. This was simply a huge cash grab. They also probably noticed what they were in for in stealing for customers in the coming months, and knew that the less CC deposits they received, they less chargebacks would happen. They knew their liability to the markets that they were going to steal from, and needed to hedge against this as much as possible while making money in the meantime.

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3609236-5dimes-start-charging-withdrawal-fees-non-btc-exclusive-sportsbook-transfers.html

7. Then only 2 months later... they are leaving the market, and 'refunding' all futures bets, taking millions of dollars? of exposure off the books by deleting it (literally), and pocketing all losing bets from the market.

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3619197-5dimes-done-us-market-sept-25th-merged-threads.html

At the end of the day, I cannot tell anyone what to do. But if you see these string of events, and read through the threads, you'll see a common theme. 5Dimes hasn't been a reliable sportsbook for a long time. They haven't really done anything good, right, or morally correct from any standpoint, and the only thing they had going for them was that they 'still paid out'. That wasn't good enough, yet they were still being painted as a reliable sportsbook. You can delve into the reasons why, and there are reasons. But at the end of the day, if you give these criminals your money, and you're read this post, then you know what you're getting yourself into.

[Emily_Haines]

You'll get paid. Make sure you follow everything in their complicated withdrawal process and your information matches and you'll get your money.

bookmaker emails you a 6 digit code and you enter that and process is done and you are paid the same day

5dimes
you make a withdraw
wait a week
until they call you and confirm acct #, address and secret code
wait another week
then they send you a email where you confirm the bitcoin address, secret code and acct #
wait another week
then you get paid



make one tiny error in this dumb process and it all starts over

[RedApples]

everyone should be free to voice their opinion without the name calling and arguing... which is what you used to think when it was OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY and OTHER PEOPLE'S FUTURES, and you tell people to get a life ... when it became about your money then it's the end of the world





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Can you please stop @'ing me? Anyone who has read these posts can see you lack integrity and you simply continue to get butt hurt and lie about everything. I've been very clear and direct and cited references for my statements and stay on point. You on the other hand are grasping at straws, going into old posts and literally making zero sense with them. It's sad really. It must suck to try to turn things around and again try to make it like I don't care about other peoples money and only myself (when thats what you're being proven as), when I literally continue to fight and advocate for what is right going back over a year. I can cite many references if you want, as I've been looking over things the past hour to research for my last post to inform people. At the same time, I found another gem of you fabricating nonsense because you were butt hurt. Again, you being part of a thread, seeing the facts, taking part in it, and then later saying something else happened simply to take a jab. Sadly, it was in this situation where you were again hurting players chances of getting paid because you lack integrity and wanted to fight someone.

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3603372-nba-division-futures-how-will-bets-grade-them-if-there-prorated-season-p5.html#post29624816

"yeah mine did the same thing

stinks that 5dimes would grade stuff as losses when they were still up in the air... i mean the clippers are only 4.5 back and ordinarily would have 12 games left"

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3619197-5dimes-done-us-market-sept-25th-merged-threads-p36.html#post29704151

"my sentiments exactly

at least on the division futures 5dimes was more than generous... grading the winners as winners and refunding all the losers... so the people claiming they are total thieves have a bit of selective memory there"



Just stop. You have zero integrity per your posts.

[RudyRuetigger]

isnt the 25th end date?


Lets hope you all get paid by then


or 30th



Will 5dimes allow you to take them to a 3rd party?

25th is the end date for you or me to make a request.

Yes, they’ve said that unclaimed funds will be handed over to an administrator on the 30th, but it’s not clear that this includes funds which are only in their possession because they haven’t completed processing payouts yet. I would hope that they only mean funds which are not attached to at or payout requests, but we obviously need confirmation of that.

I know your answer, lets see if that happens


weird milwaukee mike nominated your post



I think its different than you guys say


if you want my opinion on what will happen, just say so


ive been correct on basically everything

[firedawg]

The players advocate saw the future


Nothing new

[RedApples]

25th is the end date for you or me to make a request.

Yes, they’ve said that unclaimed funds will be handed over to an administrator on the 30th, but it’s not clear that this includes funds which are only in their possession because they haven’t completed processing payouts yet. I would hope that they only mean funds which are not attached to at or payout requests, but we obviously need confirmation of that.

Definitely isn't clear but sounded like you need to request a payout by the 25th to get paid by the 30th. If you don't request it by the 25th, you won't have the option to and all balances will be handed over to a 3rd party.

My guess would be that they have evaluated that a 5 day window would be needed to pay out all cash out requests. That is a lot of hours, and no matter how many players you have cashing out you should be able to do this, even if you have to hire a couple extra people to do the work. I think that is most of the reason for the lag now (aside from all cash flow problems, just answering as if in a theoretical bubble), that they have devoted no time or effort to getting cash outs done now since they've made the 5 day period in which they will focus efforts to do so.

[DU46]

Just an update I contacted them via chat to confirm they received my email response from last night and they said they didn't, so they resent. I responded to that one and they said they did indeed receive it....so the waiting game continues....just an FYI for any of you still waiting to get paid, I'd recommend following up with them after you respond to the confirmation email that they did indeed get it. I waited 17 hours after I responded to the initial email with no payout so I wanted to follow up.

I'll advise if/when the payout actually comes.

[DontTailMe]

Can anyone who's had parlays paid out correctly PLEASE tell me what you did leading up to that? What conversations you had? Did you request "refunds" of those parlays? Because for some reason, so far, the many parlays in my account have not been touched by 5Dimes.

I'm going to call them again today to see what is going on, but information from this community would be helpful going into that conversation.

I have:

(a) Parlays with all slots filled, but some pending legs not due for grading until after 9/25.
(b) Open parlays with some slots unfilled (and possibly some legs pending past 9/25).

I would hope that the open/pending legs be voided and I be paid out on my legs which have already been graded winners. Past conversations with 5Dimes told me that my only option was a "refund" of my original stake amount. But others here are saying that you're being paid out correctly HOW???

[Slowbalt]

I just don't understand how 5Dimes is going to pay all these people out that HAVEN'T requested by now, yet their deadline is the 25th? To get paid out by the 30th?

I requested the 13th and am starting to get a little worried. I can only imagine someone that requests tomorrow.

[DontTailMe]

Can anyone who's had parlays paid out correctly PLEASE tell me what you did leading up to that? What conversations you had? Did you request "refunds" of those parlays? Because for some reason, so far, the many parlays in my account have not been touched by 5Dimes.

I'm going to call them again today to see what is going on, but information from this community would be helpful going into that conversation.

I have:

(a) Parlays with all slots filled, but some pending legs not due for grading until after 9/25.
(b) Open parlays with some slots unfilled (and possibly some legs pending past 9/25).

I would hope that the open/pending legs be voided and I be paid out on my legs which have already been graded winners. Past conversations with 5Dimes told me that my only option was a "refund" of my original stake amount. But others here are saying that you're being paid out correctly HOW???

UPDATE: I just spoke with Maryanne from wagering on the phone. She told me:

A) I should not be concerned about the fact that others are reporting their parlays have been closed out while none of my parlays have been touched. They have to look at each parlay individually (makes sense), and they are working around the clock, account-by-account to get this done in the next couple of days. Closing out parlays was the last step in their closing activities, which is why it's taken so long.

B) Confirmed that both pending future legs and unfilled open slots will be treated as voids, so I should expect to be paid out on value legs already won.

Assuming she knows what she's talking about, I feel relieved. It's good to finally hear someone say this. Now, let's hope everyone gets their money!

[Slowbalt]

UPDATE: I just spoke with Maryanne from wagering on the phone. She told me:

A) I should not be concerned about the fact that others are reporting their parlays have been closed out while none of my parlays have been touched. They have to look at each parlay individually (makes sense), and they are working around the close, account-by-account to get this done in the next couple of days. Closing out parlays was the last step in their closing activities, which is why it's taken so long.

B) Confirmed that both pending future legs and unfilled open slots will be treated as voids, so I should expect to be paid out on value legs already won.

Assuming she knows what she's talking about, I feel relieved. Now, let's hope everyone gets their money!

I hope they make this right.

I guess we will know by the 1st of October.

[DontTailMe]

I hope they make this right.

I guess we will know by the 1st of October.

Let's be real. With current backlog + final wave of payouts which are being requested as futures/parlays continue to be closed, they won't have the payouts done by 9/30. So they'll either continue processing payouts after 9/30 or A LOT of customers will be dealing with this "administrator".

I do feel a bit relieved though, especially after hearing others in this thread state that their parlays were paid out correctly.

Fingers crossed.

[DoucheBagWhoBets]

If you've been in this thread, for sure you've seen my posts.

1) Been waiting for a withdraw for over 10 days.
2) Waiting for futures to be graded.

Now, a glimmer of hope.

3) Some of my futures have been graded, well, should I say cancelled and refunded, this is good.

What's left to do?

a) Original balance payout sent
b) Got more futures which include MLB, NHL, NBA which are right on the Edge of playing, this includes MLB Divisions.
c) Got easy to cancel futures leftover, Biden/Trump, World Series + NFL, straight cancels should be done.
d) Then I need that 2nd withdraw after B & C are completed


*** Also, note, some of those listed, are within parlays that have significant winners. Some reduced payout would be in order, not a cancel.

[Infowars2833]

If anyone knows about who or where this administrator is going to be operating through please let us know. I have been waiting for a confirmation email for verification from a payout request since 9-19. Still nothing yet.

[Wolverine88]

UPDATE: I just spoke with Maryanne from wagering on the phone. She told me:

A) I should not be concerned about the fact that others are reporting their parlays have been closed out while none of my parlays have been touched. They have to look at each parlay individually (makes sense), and they are working around the clock, account-by-account to get this done in the next couple of days. Closing out parlays was the last step in their closing activities, which is why it's taken so long.

B) Confirmed that both pending future legs and unfilled open slots will be treated as voids, so I should expect to be paid out on value legs already won.

Assuming she knows what she's talking about, I feel relieved. It's good to finally hear someone say this. Now, let's hope everyone gets their money!

That's good news, hope it works out. I had 2 open parlays, a 25 teamer and a 5 teamer each with all legs graded and one open leg left. I was told by 2 different agents that the parlays would be closed out and my initial wager returned, on that note I decided to complete the parlays (one winner, one loser)...it all worked out, but definitely a bunch of conflicting information coming from the 5D folks. Carrie, one of the chat managers spent an hour on the phone and squared everything away with all the parties that were mucked up. Gl

[DoucheBagWhoBets]

If anyone knows about who or where this administrator is going to be operating through please let us know. I have been waiting for a confirmation email for verification from a payout request since 9-19. Still nothing yet.

Yes, good question. Who will be the 3rd party?

1) Bernie Madoff Enterprises, Unincorporated from Folsom Prison. Slowly but surely, trickles to you while next Ponzi enters.
2) Clinton Foundation. Rest assured, your money will be well served.
3) BadMathCreditCorrections, you're owed money, we only send 10% of it
4) Forget About It Industries. Dream on, it ain't happening, you got stiffed by Jeffrey Epstein.

Every time when I look in the account
All these lines on sports like clearer
The past is gone
It went by, like Tony to dust
Isn't that the way
Everybody's got the dues in life to pay
I know nobody knows
Where it comes and where it goes
I know it's everybody sin
You got to lose to know how to win

Half my futures
Is offshore books, written pages
Live and learn from losers and
From bookies
You know it's true, oh
All the things come back to you

Sing with me, sing for the payout
Sing for the laughter, sing for the tear
Sing with me, if it's just for today
Maybe tomorrow, the good Lord will take you away

Dream on
Dream on
Dream on
Dream until your cash is gone

[Combato]

THey (5Dimes) is claiming they sent my confirmation email which they clearly did not. They have rejected my first BTC request because I "failed to respond to their conf email within 48 hours".

I have submitted a second BTC request but it is clear to me this whole thing is one big scam and all of us are suckers who trusted anyone in the off shore business, specifically the con artists at 5 Dimes.

I would not be shocked if no one gets paid anything.

[PharaohUB]

If their intention was to not pay people out, why haven't they ridden off into sunset yet?
If their intention is to stick around and they don't want to ruin their reputation, then why are they ripping people off on future bets?
3rd party must be involved and calling shots.

[fadeeazy]

THey (5Dimes) is claiming they sent my confirmation email which they clearly did not. They have rejected my first BTC request because I "failed to respond to their conf email within 48 hours".

I have submitted a second BTC request but it is clear to me this whole thing is one big scam and all of us are suckers who trusted anyone in the off shore business, specifically the con artists at 5 Dimes.

I would not be shocked if no one gets paid anything.

That's concerning, when we was payout request from?

[FinalFrontier]

I don't know what the deal is, but in some scams, some get paid. Then they can say they paid people. This over-the-top verification stuff is complete b.s. I called in today and they asked me several questions - all of which were answered to their satisfaction. In fact, they said "perfect". No one could have possibly given them all the detailed info I did without it being my account. To jump through additional hoops to get the funds returned is total b.s. All this while they are sending me badgering emails to withdraw my cash. But...but...we tried to tell all customers to withdraw their funds! Here is the proof!

I'm not (yet) doubting all will get paid, but I am calling b.s. on the over-the-top verification process. I've never seen anything like it. And yes, I was one of the ones who got what would have been sure winning futures cancelled which gave them more cash to pay other customers. You're welcome.