All Betonline.ag, Sportsbetting.ag and Lowvig.ag Issues

[throwaway0998]

I deposited $225 on BetOnline, played through, thought it was a good site, so I referred someone. They deposited, thought it was fishy and requested a withdrawal (not even up on the book). Account was closed, docs were requested and all were sent back as far as I know. They replied saying we reserve the right to close any account and keep the funds. WTH?

I don’t even know how to get the deposit back if it’s via crypto. I just requested my withdrawal as well.

[AlMundy]

I’d give BetOnline a mixed review. I haven’t had any experiences with them to indicate they are crooked in some blatant way, but to me they’re a mediocre book that looks to nickel-and-dime you and interpret gray area cases against you.

Negatives:

1. I routinely got deposit bonus offers for a long time. On one of the occasions that I accepted the offer (I don’t recall now if the offer came via email or if it was simply an option to check on the deposit page—I think it was the latter), I noticed subsequent to making the deposit that the bonus was not in my account. I contacted customer service and they said that my account wasn’t eligible for that bonus. Why was it offered then? Well, no real explanation except that if there is a discrepancy between the site telling you that you’re getting a bonus and whoever reviews it ruling that you don’t, that the post-deposit determination is what counts.

OK, not a huge deal. I’ve come to learn through experience that bonus offers nowadays can be of the “You’ve been preapproved for this credit card!” type, where it really just means that you might be eligible for a bonus. And it wasn’t some huge amount of money, so I let it slide and it didn’t affect my opinion of BetOnline more than very slightly.

What I made a mental note to do, however, is to make sure in the future to confirm any such bonus before making the deposit.

So the next time I was looking to make a deposit, and I again had a bonus offer, I first called customer service. I said my account is such-and-such, I have this bonus offer such-and-such, could you please check for me to make sure that I’ll in fact get that bonus if I deposit, as last time I was in this exact situation and retroactively it was decided not to honor the offer after I deposited. The rep put me on hold for a brief period, came back on, and informed me that I would indeed receive the bonus.

I deposited, received no bonus, and called them back. They said that anything one is told about a bonus beforehand—in writing, by phone with customer service, etc.—is not binding, that really all that matters is what is decided after you make the deposit, and the decision by whatever person or department after the fact here was that my deposit wasn’t eligible for that bonus, and there was nothing more that could be done.

Bullshit move. But I just adjusted my expectations even lower to: Ignore all bonus offers, assume regardless of what I’m told in advance that I’ll get no more deposit bonuses.

2. I never play online casinos unless I’m given free plays. BetOnline sent me casino free plays periodically for a while. I don’t remember exactly how much--$10, $20, $50, whatever. And I would play them for $1 a pop or whatever, not paying close attention at all, and eventually a pop up would say that my free play funds were exhausted and giving me the option to switch over to cash play if I chose. At which point I would stop playing, and whatever few dollars the free plays happened to generate would be my winnings for the session.

On one occasion, I followed this usual procedure, again not monitoring it closely at all (simultaneously following some sports bets in another window or something probably, I don’t recall), and it occurred to me that it felt like I had been playing far longer than would correspond to the amount of free play funds of this latest promotion. I glanced up at my (cash) balance and it looked lower than I recalled. I checked my records, and indeed I was short between $100 and $200.

I called customer service and told them what happened. The agent’s immediate response was to indicate that they understood and that they would immediately escalate it and I would be contacted shortly. It’s not so much what the person said as the way they said it that I very much read as, “We get this all the time. This is a very common problem. There’s a standard way we rectify it; we just have to go through the proper channels and it’ll be taken care of.” Like, he basically knew where I was going when I had barely started telling him what happened. “Ah, yes, yes, let me open a case for you and we’ll get this addressed,” like he hears this all the time now.

I got an email notification a day or two later saying that the account had been double checked and it had been confirmed that I had indeed placed the slot wagers or whatever that were in question and so no adjustment would be made.

I called customer service to say that of course that didn’t address my complaint at all, that my question had to do with the system somehow switching me to playing cash when I had been playing free play, in spite of multiple prior experiences I had that that was not how it worked. “Oh, OK, no problem, we’ll have it looked into,” etc.

A day or two later I get the same form letter about how they confirmed that the bets really were made in my account, etc. At which point I dropped it.

Again, not much money involved. So, I’m not going to lose my temper over it, trash them, refuse to ever play there any longer, etc. One can certainly reasonably take the position that it’s on me to be more careful in that situation, to check before every wager if it’s coming from the free play balance or cash balance, etc. Which is fine. I got burned for a few dollars because I have virtually no experience with online casinos (as opposed to online sportsbooks). (And I’ve never played in their online casino again, free play or not.)

But again I interpret it as kind of a chickenshit move. Evidently at some point their software changed so that when you tapped out your free play funds it no longer generated that pop up giving you the option of betting cash, but instead simply switched you to betting cash automatically. Either they did that intentionally to trick the unwary into betting (and losing) money they didn’t intend to bet, or that was an unintentional byproduct of the software switch that they chose not to rectify when people brought to their attention how it cost them money. Within their rights I suppose, but poor customer service.

3. I have, and have had in recent years, about 15-20 sportsbook accounts, some in the U.S. and some offshore. BetOnline is literally the only one that charges for withdrawals. (I use crypto with them.) Nothing dishonest about that, but it’s a small mark against them.

4. They recently changed their frequent bettor points system or whatever it’s called to where you cannot access that money without a Telegram account. Why every other book in the world that I’ve ever played with that has such a system can administer it without requiring you to download some other software and they cannot, I have no idea. (Unless, to be cynical, it’s precisely because adding another hoop to jump through means a certain percentage of customers—older folks, less tech savvy folks, whatever—won’t jump through it and so they won’t have to honor their earnings.)

What little I’ve heard about Telegram—and it is indeed little; I don’t claim to have some firm and well-informed opinion—makes me wary of it. What I’ve heard or read is that people have had issues with their security, that it has a reputation of being connected with far right wingers and Q-Anon types, Russians, terrorists, whatever—just not a company that I’m particularly eager to give any business to.

So, I was on the fence about whether to bother. I really didn’t want this thing on my phone. (I do almost nothing on my phone but am much more a computer person. I have all the spyware/virus protection stuff on my computer but haven’t educated myself about how to similarly safeguard my phone.) So, I decided that if I could set it up on my computer, I would, albeit with misgivings.

I looked into it, Googled, found instructions about how to have a computer rather than phone Telegram account, attempted four or five separate times, and got nowhere. I eventually decided that since I was very much on the fence about whether to bother at all, I’ve invested more than enough time, effort, and aggravation by now, so screw it.

I did then contact BetOnline just to ask if there really is no other way to access my frequent player earnings, and they said that, no, a Telegram account is indeed now the only way.

So, I’m back to being undecided. It’s three figures as I recall (plus whatever I earn moving forward), so I’d rather get it than not, but it’s hardly something life-changing. Maybe I’ll end up holding my nose and putting the stupid software on my phone, maybe I won’t.

But in any case, again just kind of a bullshit policy indicating that this is a book that’ll nickel-and-dime you in ways that (some) others won’t, where I’ve learned that they just aren’t a customer-friendly book when it comes to gray area cases or anything that requires some flexibility.

Positives:

1. BetOnline is far from the most valuable book in terms of the things I like to bet, but it has some value. As far as how often they have the best line or tied for the best line, maybe if I’ve played at 20 books in recent years they are something like 13th or 14th best. So, nothing special, but certainly not useless. It’s an account worth having, but it wouldn’t be all that big a blow to lose them.

2. Several books by now have reduced my limits to something ridiculously small, basically a soft boot. (American books typically are worse than offshore in this respect, in my experience.) So far, BetOnline has not. They’ve eliminated my bonuses or played games with them, but I can still get down decent-sized bets.

3. I have now finished in the money in one or another of their contests several times. I have never had any problem at all as far as the winnings being credited into my account, and my subsequently being able to withdraw that money.

4. On withdrawals in general, I’ve never had a significant problem. All have been quite smooth. (As mentioned, they charge a fee that others don’t, but I mean there hasn’t been anything dishonest, no suspicious slow pay, etc.)

5. All the things that have adversely affected my opinion of them are reasonably minor. Does it leave a bad taste in my mouth about them, make me think of them as kind of a chickenshit book? Yes. Do I have grounds for saying that they’re out-and-out crooks, that they’re thieves, that one should run away from them and stay away? No.

Just a decidedly mediocre book that I don’t recommend to people when they ask me where they should play. No better and no worse than that.

[MatrixMax]

UPDATE - I have been attempting to log in daily each morning just for the heck of it and today I FINALLY have been able to log in to both my sportsbetting.ag and betonline.ag account. I will attempt a minor withdrawal later here today, even though my soul wants to just request the entire balance out after this mishap lol, but if all goes well I will report back here, as well as fairly updating my TrustPilot review for both domains to at least a 4-star. Like I said in previous posts it was absolutely bewildering to think that an entity that I've had successful withdrawals upwards of $15k as well as astounding customer service would would skim me for $1500 but I suppose their KYC process is truly the slowest process. Will post later today chaps

[infotimbo]

My point was not about dublicate accounts in general, but using a bonus and/or placing the same bets on both, which is known to not be tolerated.

But nonetheless, I agree that it normally should not allow them to confiscate all funds.

[MatrixMax]

I asked about the bonus because Betonline restricted loads of winning players from using bonuses in 2023. Here's what the e-mail back then said:

"Please note that effective immediately, we have removed your account’s eligibility to take part in promotions and bonuses that are offered site wide. You may however, be eligible for individual promotions that are offered from time to time. Your existing account will remain open and all funds are available for play or withdrawal.

You will not be permitted to open a new account to avoid these restrictions, doing so may result in account closure and forfeiture of funds."

in case you have received it as well (maybe it ended up in spam, or you missed it), I guess they could see opening a sportsbetting.ag account and taking a bonus as a violation to that.

Nope, verified and asked about duplicate accounts before joining sportsbetting.ag (red dialogue) -

https://imgur.com/a/gAgQJNV

and after joining sportsbetting.ag(blue dialogue) -

https://imgur.com/a/5Y1PLe5

[infotimbo]

As far as I know I did absolutely nothing outside of T&Cs, had received the 50% deposit bonus and didn’t even clear it on the single I placed it on(losing wager) due to the less than favorable restrictions on what lines the free play can be used on.

I asked about the bonus because Betonline restricted loads of winning players from using bonuses in 2023. Here's what the e-mail back then said:

"Please note that effective immediately, we have removed your account’s eligibility to take part in promotions and bonuses that are offered site wide. You may however, be eligible for individual promotions that are offered from time to time. Your existing account will remain open and all funds are available for play or withdrawal.

You will not be permitted to open a new account to avoid these restrictions, doing so may result in account closure and forfeiture of funds."

in case you have received it as well (maybe it ended up in spam, or you missed it), I guess they could see opening a sportsbetting.ag account and taking a bonus as a violation to that.

[MatrixMax]

Disregard all that was said, looks like Dave is a saint around here who is supported by SBR and its members, I was in the wrong and he, and his company, were in the right for confiscating the money that I had deposited into the account along with the winnings associated. We live in different times I suppose and I failed to understand how the world works nowadays, it’s okay to be have your money taken by anyone and everyone “thumbs up”

[MatrixMax]

Confiscating funds should almost never be allowed, of course, but any idea why they could be closing your accounts? Did you play the same bets on both books, for example, or took any bonuses, although not eligible for it anymore?

As far as I know I did absolutely nothing outside of T&Cs, had received the 50% deposit bonus and didn’t even clear it on the single I placed it on(losing wager) due to the less than favorable restrictions on what lines the free play can be used on. ALTHOUGH I did happen to find a recent Reddit post about someone else getting banned from BetOnline using close to the same +EV strategy that I had and looks like they don’t like it.. not the bettors fault for betting on lines that BetOnline made available to us so welp..

https://www.reddit.com/r/betonline_ag/s/yH0FagDbBF

and this one https://www.reddit.com/r/SharperSpor...g/s/3nOhxpLA1W
andddd this one

https://www.reddit.com/r/sportsbetting/s/EsjNTfNDwk

Meanwhile that sick **** Dave Mason sits back and blatantly posts all over social media about the price of BTC surging, with half of his portfolio being stolen funds from users of the platform that he manages.

[infotimbo]

Confiscating funds should almost never be allowed, of course, but any idea why they could be closing your accounts? Did you play the same bets on both books, for example, or took any bonuses, although not eligible for it anymore?

[MatrixMax]

Sounds like it’s Beekeeper time when I get my next deposit. By principle in my culture when a valuable is thieved from you, you “get it back in blood”. The first lead, Harry from Against All Odds out in Arizona should be fairly easy to locate, at the end of the day it is principle, a connection is a connection, a loss is a loss, an eye for an eye.

[MatrixMax]

Sounds like it’s Beekeeper time when I get my next deposit. By principle in my culture when a valuable is thieved from you, you “get it back in blood”. The first lead, Harry from Against All Odds out in Arizona should be fairly easy to locate, at the end of the day it is principle, a connection is a connection, a loss is a loss, an eye for an eye.

[MatrixMax]

You may not be wrong about what they intended, or do.

But I don't like to see anyone excusing it as standard procedure. Like it is in any way justified for a business to say "Thanks for your money, we are not going to provide any service and will be coinfiscating your money and btw, we wont tell you why or discuss it further".

The arrogance and straight up unfair/criminal mindset that can twist that in their head to think it fair and reasonable is astounding.

The Betonline group and Dave Mason know that too!

Yeah judging by the way the TrustPilot pages are ran for betonline.ag and sportsbetting.ag I’d hate to say that ARCHIVADO98 is very likely right in his “believe it when he sees it”. For literally every single legitimate negative 1-star experience, like mine, by a real user (you can tell as the 1-star are all posted by real people w/ First & Last names), the BetOnline team then goes behind and posts a generic 5-Star review by a basic first-name only user, and they are so blatant about it that they reuse the same profiles that posted 5-star reviews last year https://imgur.com/a/FtNVFPG I have emailed Dave as well and have yet to hear response, as he has posted on X/Twitter since https://x.com/davemasonbol/status/19...729241038?s=46

Interesting operation they’ve got going on over there..

[Optional]

I want to be wrong, but I'll believe it when I see it.

You may not be wrong about what they intended, or do.

But I don't like to see anyone excusing it as standard procedure. Like it is in any way justified for a business to say "Thanks for your money, we are not going to provide any service and will be coinfiscating your money and btw, we wont tell you why or discuss it further".

The arrogance and straight up unfair/criminal mindset that can twist that in their head to think it fair and reasonable is astounding.

The Betonline group and Dave Mason know that too!

[ARCHIVADO98]

Rubbish.

Stealing deposited funds with zero explanation never has been accepted by us as fair in the history of SBR. This is simply theft, the way it has ben handled.

Dave Mason will ensure the deposit is returned or a proper explanation given.

That is the books correct choices if they think explaining themselves is a security risk.

I want to be wrong, but I'll believe it when I see it.

[MatrixMax]

Rubbish.

Stealing deposited funds with zero explanation never has been accepted by us as fair in the history of SBR. This is simply theft, the way it has ben handled.

Dave Mason will ensure the deposit is returned or a proper explanation given.

That is the books correct choices if they think explaining themselves is a security risk.

Thank you Optional, you have been of a great assistance. I can see how it would look suspicious if I tried to withdraw the entire balance, but again I requested $200 out of the total $1.3k balance that I had acquired over a couple of days from a $500 deposit. Albeit I’m NOT a scammer but I’d think it logical that if I was looking to scam I’d request for the entire balance to be withdrawn, if not at least the total of the deposit that I made, like make it make sense

[Optional]

That is to say, I'm 99% sure that after getting this type of answer/treatment you have zero chance of recovering your deposit if you are actually a scammer (pardon my language!). If you're not, the only way to recover it may be appealing the decision through the relevant Gaming Authority.

Rubbish.

Stealing deposited funds with zero explanation never has been accepted by us as fair in the history of SBR. This is simply theft, the way it has ben handled.

Dave Mason will ensure the deposit is returned or a proper explanation given.

That is the books correct choices if they think explaining themselves is a security risk.

[MatrixMax]

That is to say, I'm 99% sure that after getting this type of answer/treatment you have zero chance of recovering your deposit if you are actually a scammer (pardon my language!). If you're not, the only way to recover it may be appealing the decision through the relevant Gaming Authority.

Well, again after having been a valued client for years with the original site BetOnline.Ag and having payouts like this https://imgur.com/a/SU7Jyvc I’m not so sure why attempting to withdraw a few hundred dollars from SportsBetting.ag raises any sort of alarm. All photocopies and documents sent for KYC verification were freshly taken upon the moment they were requested and have never been recycled.

[ARCHIVADO98]

Sounds like they are 101% certain the KYC documents they received, were being recycled and have proof sufficient for the Gaming Commission to uphold their decision.

If this is the case, that's a standard answer because revealing any additional info would be helping the scammer involved in multi accounting.

That is to say, I'm 99% sure that after getting this type of answer/treatment you have zero chance of recovering your deposit if you are actually a scammer (pardon my language!). If you're not, the only way to recover it may be appealing the decision through the relevant Gaming Authority.

[ARCHIVADO98]

Sounds like they are 101% certain the KYC documents they received, were being recycled and have proof sufficient for the Gaming Commission to uphold their decision.

If this is the case, that's a standard answer because revealing any additional info would be helping the scammer involved in multi accounting.

[Optional]

No justification whatsoever other than simply stating that my account was being closed. https://imgur.com/a/XAZAmJ9

That is not a reasonable way to act.

I will PM you an email for their rep Dave Mason. I suggest asking him to review the deposit confiscation.

[MatrixMax]

Did they give you any justification for confiscating your deposit?

They should never be touching deposited funds without a very good reason.

No justification whatsoever other than simply stating that my account was being closed. https://imgur.com/a/XAZAmJ9

[Optional]

Well.. after years of being a Platinum VIP III member with betonline.ag I decided to try out some action over at their sister site sportsbetting.ag. After depositing $500, having a +EV from my strategized play-style with table tennis, and rolling the $500 to $1500 with consistent green slips I decide to withdraw about $200 for an upcoming bill that I had due. About 2 hours after submitting my withdrawal request I receive an email about my withdrawal request being denied and to contact support. I contact support and am told that my account is under review and locked, and keep getting told different timelines about when I should hear back from the management/finance team. Finally I just log in to my betonline.ag account as that was not locked, requested for a member of the finance team to KYC me (i.e. sent a bank statement, picture of any cc/dc used to deposit in the past year, a photocopy of your license, and a photo of the license being held up for a selfie). After sending all of this I am then met with support telling me that my account will be closed along with all funds (my deposit included) confiscated due to a management business decision.. I literally got robbed and told to be okay with it. Then my betonline.ag account that I’ve had for years was subsequently closed. Very sick individuals that run this show. I never thought it’d be me after literally having withdrawals in the past on betonline.ag upwards of $10k but as soon as I start messing with their less reputable site sports betting.ag everything goes to hell.

Did they give you any justification for confiscating your deposit?

They should never be touching deposited funds without a very good reason.

[MatrixMax]

Well.. after years of being a Platinum VIP III member with betonline.ag I decided to try out some action over at their sister site sportsbetting.ag. After depositing $500, having a +EV from my strategized play-style with table tennis, and rolling the $500 to $1500 with consistent green slips I decide to withdraw about $200 for an upcoming bill that I had due. About 2 hours after submitting my withdrawal request I receive an email about my withdrawal request being denied and to contact support. I contact support and am told that my account is under review and locked, and keep getting told different timelines about when I should hear back from the management/finance team. Finally I just log in to my betonline.ag account as that was not locked, requested for a member of the finance team to KYC me (i.e. sent a bank statement, picture of any cc/dc used to deposit in the past year, a photocopy of your license, and a photo of the license being held up for a selfie). After sending all of this I am then met with support telling me that my account will be closed along with all funds (my deposit included) confiscated due to a management business decision.. I literally got robbed and told to be okay with it. Then my betonline.ag account that I’ve had for years was subsequently closed. Very sick individuals that run this show. I never thought it’d be me after literally having withdrawals in the past on betonline.ag upwards of $10k but as soon as I start messing with their less reputable site sports betting.ag everything goes to hell.

[DISTROYA]

Not sure what the dykstra reference is but anyways I got an email stating they credited back to my balance... still have no clue why the payout didn't go through no explanation of course; it was a standard Bitcoin payout . Anyways I requested with the same address to the betonline account instead of sportsbetting.ag and was processed in 5 minutes. Thx to all that chimed in. I wasn't worried about their financial situation however the money was taken out of the account and didn't see the funds in the blockchain+ with Bitcoin not too familiar with the technicalities I've heard horror stories of shitt getting lost there by errors in addresses etc. I thought they maybe screwed up.

[2Sweeet]

I call you Dykstra.... I promise you don't have anything to worry about with sportsbetting or betonline. Especially being a long time customer. You will be paid. They are one of the handful of offshore books that can still be trusted.

[DISTROYA]

ThxOp, just never had something like this with sports betting.ag they would pay me in 5 minutes just like betodds. Let's see what happens tomorrow. Also I was under the impression they had timelines but they don't have them they're more like 12 or 15 cent lines which is disappointing

[Optional]

Something really strange happened today I requested a payout for 2K usually they send it within 5 minutes they said it was processed however after repeated chats they're saying there's some issue which they don't know they escalated the situation Etc so don't see the funds does anyone else take sometimes overnight to get paid?

I would not worry about the payment delay. Happens now and then but the only reason people get concerned is the usually reliable and fast processing. I'd be surprised if it takes very long.


I believe overnight lines are supposed to come out right after the last game for today has started.

[DISTROYA]

Also does anyone know when overnight dimelines are posted? Customer service is totally clueless they can't even answer

[DISTROYA]

Something really strange happened today I requested a payout for 2K usually they send it within 5 minutes they said it was processed however after repeated chats they're saying there's some issue which they don't know they escalated the situation Etc so don't see the funds does anyone else take sometimes overnight to get paid?

[Optional]

Sounds a bit over careful but as long as they give you a workable way to still withdraw I would probably give them the benefit of the doubt that the security measure is worth taking. Could be that the IP range you tried from has had previous issues for example. Not just that it doesn't match your home IP.

[agharah1]

I tried to withdraw from BetOnline and they told me a "login mismatch" made them decline my request. I asked what they meant and their customer service said my IP address was not close enough to the address they have for me on file to initiate a withdrawal. Are they serious? You're only allowed to withdraw at home? They don't even let you change your address online how do the expect people to abide by that?

[damien4191]

hey guys, apologize if this has been mentioned already but has anyone cracked the code on BOL and their VIP payoffs? About a year ago I got to Elite 1 and was hoping for an incredible bonus but I got something like $9,645.23..... I mean that's a nice amount of money and all but where the hell did they come up with that number? Same goes for their weekly payout bonus they give on telegram. Last week I got $120 back after losing 5k. This week I won 7k and have no idea if I will get a payout based on how much I won/lost or how much I bet overall.

[el_clarko]

Seems u know a lot of ppl there El Retardo who have had issues???? Bring some proof, I know the highest guy in charge there and if you aren't fos we can get to the bottom of it. Everyone here knows I'm no schill and lol that you think they care about 5k or you? You have no clue. Korean League of Legends esports LOL everyone bets this. Were u from El Retardo? I have a guess. but I'll let you tell us. Remember this isn't Nintendo 64 or Mario Cart so answer carefully.

You honestly come off as a 13 year old degenerate. With how you keep disrespecting folks, you don't know anyone of any high position at ANY sportsbooks. You call someone "Retardo" and then want proof and that you can help? I wouldn't provide you with the piss from my d*ck even if you were on your last breath from dehydration. Learn to communicate like an adult, disrespectful piece of sh*t.

[stake1]

Today is my birthday and they gave me a free $100. Last year they gave me $600 so the offer definitely did decline a bit. Check your email and look for an email sent on your birthday. I had to click the link to get the offer. I am also Diamond II

always start off nice, congrats on your birthday cash gift.
that said that you got $600 last year. maybe you got some ‘free spins’

[2Sweeet]

I can attest that BetOnline does indeed to care for $5K. I personally have no issues with BetOnline. As a matter of fact, they have the best offshore book rewards out there. I have personally witnessed an email to my friend on closing his account and holding his $8K due to "inside information/cheating". Opened a brand new account and ran his original deposit to $8K. Shortly after they closed his account. They were accusing him of cheating by having insider information, since profiting heavy on Pro Korean League of Legends esports lmao. I didn't believe it until I saw it myself. I do believe offshore books tend to target newer accounts that quickly start profiting and want to withdraw without losing money first.

Not necessarily accusing them of cheating but will find a way to delay the payout. Such as very detailed KYC requests (utility bill, bank statement, selfie and ID with all matching names and addresses). Have also seen an account being closed with thousands in the balance for betting "more than 50% of the bonus" on one wager. Offshore books have been known to con their way out of paying new users without losing money first before withdrawing.

If you are abusing bonuses with multiple accounts, then you deserve to get banned.

Seems u know a lot of ppl there El Retardo who have had issues???? Bring some proof, I know the highest guy in charge there and if you aren't fos we can get to the bottom of it. Everyone here knows I'm no schill and lol that you think they care about 5k or you? You have no clue. Korean League of Legends esports LOL everyone bets this. Were u from El Retardo? I have a guess. but I'll let you tell us. Remember this isn't Nintendo 64 or Mario Cart so answer carefully.