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[Chiefs83]

Any codes for the telegram page

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Let's take two examples:
1) BetOnline. Put two +100 legs into the Parlay calculator.
...Comes out at +299. That's close enough to +300.
...So, I'll call that true odds. Very fair.

2) LowVig. Put two +100 legs into the Parlay calculator.
...Comes out at +276. That's way short of +300.
...Way short of the odds listed on the Straight bets.
...I get it. They don't want to get gouged on short-juice across multiple legs of the parlay.

And my point on the Moneyline market. Today's NFL straddles at LowVig are:
-240/+200, -410/+324, -204/+177, -400/+316, -320/+260.
...Those straddles are at least 50% too wide.
...Can't bet into these #s.

Was it a same game parlay or not? That's the real ?

I'm shocked.

When you say put it in the calculator, do you mean loading up a betslip? So that's definitely what they are paying?

[Chiefs83]

Any codes for Saturday through the Telegram

[2Sweeet]

Let's take two examples:
1) BetOnline. Put two +100 legs into the Parlay calculator.
...Comes out at +299. That's close enough to +300.
...So, I'll call that true odds. Very fair.

2) LowVig. Put two +100 legs into the Parlay calculator.
...Comes out at +276. That's way short of +300.
...Way short of the odds listed on the Straight bets.
...I get it. They don't want to get gouged on short-juice across multiple legs of the parlay.

And my point on the Moneyline market. Today's NFL straddles at LowVig are:
-240/+200, -410/+324, -204/+177, -400/+316, -320/+260.
...Those straddles are at least 50% too wide.
...Can't bet into these #s.

Was it a same game parlay or not? That's the real ?

[2Sweeet]

^^^ is that really what Lowvig do with two ML +100 bets parlayed?

Find it a bit hard to believe Chucky.

Any other books you see doing this to you?

What were the the teams u bet or was it a sgp?

[2Sweeet]

LOL u r bitching about BOL? Do u see what the Legal books do in Baseball?? It is a Suckers bet so find a place that doesn't rob you. They r out there. Promise.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Yes, Opti. I double-checked it. To make sure I'm not seeing things.

Let's take two examples:
1) BetOnline. Put two +100 legs into the Parlay calculator.
...Comes out at +299. That's close enough to +300.
...So, I'll call that true odds. Very fair.

2) LowVig. Put two +100 legs into the Parlay calculator.
...Comes out at +276. That's way short of +300.
...Way short of the odds listed on the Straight bets.
...I get it. They don't want to get gouged on short-juice across multiple legs of the parlay.

And my point on the Moneyline market. Today's NFL straddles at LowVig are:
-240/+200, -410/+324, -204/+177, -400/+316, -320/+260.
...Those straddles are at least 50% too wide.
...Can't bet into these #s.

This is a point that Steve Fezzik has echoed. Bookmakers are taking liberties with Moneyline bets. -350/+270 is not a market, that's a sucker's bet.

In a liquid market, you can charge a 10% tax:
*If Fav = -200, you can knock 20-cents off the Dog. +180
*If Fav = -300, you can knock 30-cents off the Dog. +270
...That's it. Anything more is stealing.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

To be fair and balanced: *One thing I love on LowVig = their count-down to kickoff. Can't beat that!

[ProSportsEdge]

[QUOTE=Ripcord007;n29035000]BetOnline.ag: Total Scam! Stay Away!

BetOnline.ag is a complete scam! I deposited money, played a few games, and when I went to withdraw my winnings, they pulled every trick in the book to keep my cash. First, they flagged my withdrawal as

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Yes, Opti. I double-checked it. To make sure I'm not seeing things.

Let's take two examples:
1) BetOnline. Put two +100 legs into the Parlay calculator.
...Comes out at +299. That's close enough to +300.
...So, I'll call that true odds. Very fair.

2) LowVig. Put two +100 legs into the Parlay calculator.
...Comes out at +276. That's way short of +300.
...Way short of the odds listed on the Straight bets.
...I get it. They don't want to get gouged on short-juice across multiple legs of the parlay.

And my point on the Moneyline market. Today's NFL straddles at LowVig are:
-240/+200, -410/+324, -204/+177, -400/+316, -320/+260.
...Those straddles are at least 50% too wide.
...Can't bet into these #s.

Is the "parlay calculator" actually placing a bet?

I'm honestly flabbergasted they would shave money line parlay odds.

Can anyone else confirm that? I can't use an account from here.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Yes, Opti. I double-checked it. To make sure I'm not seeing things.

Let's take two examples:
1) BetOnline. Put two +100 legs into the Parlay calculator.
...Comes out at +299. That's close enough to +300.
...So, I'll call that true odds. Very fair.

2) LowVig. Put two +100 legs into the Parlay calculator.
...Comes out at +276. That's way short of +300.
...Way short of the odds listed on the Straight bets.
...I get it. They don't want to get gouged on short-juice across multiple legs of the parlay.

And my point on the Moneyline market. Today's NFL straddles at LowVig are:
-240/+200, -410/+324, -204/+177, -400/+316, -320/+260.
...Those straddles are at least 50% too wide.
...Can't bet into these #s.

Moneyline is now a sucker's market. Don't bet into it.
*It has to do with Management looking at the results on Monday morning. They don't want to see an Extra-ordinary loss on a few longshots hitting.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

^^^ is that really what Lowvig do with two ML +100 bets parlayed?

Find it a bit hard to believe Chucky.

Any other books you see doing this to you?

Yes, Opti. I double-checked it. To make sure I'm not seeing things.

Let's take two examples:
1) BetOnline. Put two +100 legs into the Parlay calculator.
...Comes out at +299. That's close enough to +300.
...So, I'll call that true odds. Very fair.

2) LowVig. Put two +100 legs into the Parlay calculator.
...Comes out at +276. That's way short of +300.
...Way short of the odds listed on the Straight bets.
...I get it. They don't want to get gouged on short-juice across multiple legs of the parlay.

And my point on the Moneyline market. Today's NFL straddles at LowVig are:
-240/+200, -410/+324, -204/+177, -400/+316, -320/+260.
...Those straddles are at least 50% too wide.
...Can't bet into these #s.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Out of curiosity why does BOL have this "telegram" gyration. I thought about downloading the telegram app, but not familiar with it so I decided not to right now unless there is an advantage to that.

That was my thinking for awhile as well until I finally relented and downloaded the Telegram app around 6-12 months ago. It allowed me to go back and redeem every weekly and monthly reward that I missed. It might be worth giving in here and going back and trying to redeem all the past bonuses.

[Optional]

Repeat that I like LowVig.ag:
+ Really like the count-down clock to kickoff. "Starts in 3:42"...and bets are processed quickly.

*My one ask is what I've mentioned repeatedly on the forum. Short-juice on primary market is nice. BUT: I don't like the way the Parlay odds are calculated. And the Moneyline/Halftime markets are still juiced up too much (to be a liquid mkt).

Two +100 bets should parlay out at +300 on the 2-teamer. Straight bet odds of (1/2)*(1/2) multiply thru as 1/4. = +300 odds = 3-to-1.

But that's not what comes thru on the Parlay. Shaved down to +276. Maybe it's Trump pushing thru an extra Tax.

^^^ is that really what Lowvig do with two ML +100 bets parlayed?

Find it a bit hard to believe Chucky.

Any other books you see doing this to you?

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Repeat that I like LowVig.ag:
+ Really like the count-down clock to kickoff. "Starts in 3:42"...and bets are processed quickly.

*My one ask is what I've mentioned repeatedly on the forum. Short-juice on primary market is nice. BUT: I don't like the way the Parlay odds are calculated. And the Moneyline/Halftime markets are still juiced up too much (to be a liquid mkt).

[miaplus3]

Are you signed up for the telegram weekly/monthly notices?

I'm Platinum 1 status and get weekly and monthly bonuses ie CASH at least every Saturday.

https://t.me/+qocf2b7gEiZmMjNh?start=b93936&token=0x3C77C0F8DABBF0F4C3371A00269A16AE

Out of curiosity why does BOL have this "telegram" gyration. I thought about downloading the telegram app, but not familiar with it so I decided not to right now unless there is an advantage to that.

[miaplus3]

Wanted to check in on my LowVig experience. Very happy with their service:

1) Not much KYC. Smooth sign-up.
2) Quick transactions. Deposit credited quickly.
3) Low-vig, as the name implies. Love getting <20-cent juice on the main markets.
4) Got some good advice from the Agent during sign-up. So, Thank You.
5) Winning tickets credited quickly. Can move onto the next game.

I give Low Vig a solid A-minus grade. Thank You. Hope to be a long-time customer.

yeah, I might try them too. The vig does seem to very competitive, plus it seems like you can parlay sides & totals on NFL games with the low vig .

[2Sweeet]

Hey guys, so I made my account a couple days ago and I didn’t even recall I had a account 10+ years ago and BOL is saying I was multi accounting after requesting all this info which I provided. I never multi accounted as the old account has not been logged into my new one… was 100% not using multi accounts at the same time… big no no and not doing it….

they are clearly trying to not pay out because I had a large hit a few nights ago…

any suggestions ?

I just read all this. U went from saying you closed your account because u didn't play anymore and your CC was on file. Then 3 post later u say your old acct was compromised. Did u charge back the old acct? LOL

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Wanted to check in on my LowVig experience. Very happy with their service:

1) Not much KYC. Smooth sign-up.
2) Quick transactions. Deposit credited quickly.
3) Low-vig, as the name implies. Love getting <20-cent juice on the main markets.
4) Got some good advice from the Agent during sign-up. So, Thank You.
5) Winning tickets credited quickly. Can move onto the next game.

I give Low Vig a solid A-minus grade. Thank You. Hope to be a long-time customer.

[juvunits]

I don’t see them anywhere. Sorry I didn’t know where to ask this and it may be a dumb question. I see the parlay builder has some players props but I don’t want to bet a parlay. I want player props I can bet as single but I can’t find them. If anyone k owes let me know please. Thank you.

[Krashman]

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[Tom R.]

It is legal to have both Betonline.ag and Sportsbetting.ag accounts and receive bonuses by VIP Rewards program offers benefits including daily, weekly and monthly rewards?

[djefferis]

Ok - so when/how have they said they won’t pay ?

Whats been shared is basic fraud detection. While you admit you became aware of an old account after creating a new one - at no point have they indicated they will not pay with what you’ve shared. They ask for some documentation for review that’s in line with other books basic KYC these days.

Video is becoming more and more prevalent as an added measure. I’m not a fan - but at least it’s not a live video like BetUS has been known to request or a fishing expedition asking you to name players on teams you have bet on (another recent BetUS tactic to sniff out “syndicate” play).

[littlekona]

I guess it depends on your location.

I'm in Ontario and Bodog and Betonline payout via interac etransfer in minutes, Bookmaker is the slowest at a few hours via bitcoin.

Yes there are a few legal books like Draftkings and Betrivers that payout almost instantly as well but the odds at Betonline are usually better 90% of the time.

I'm a platinum status member at Betonline so I get perks that the legal books don't offer me.

Basically YMMV

in usa you should sign up for every book legal in your State as they throw so much promotion at you its unreal. The payouts are near instant too esp if funded w debit cards. That said Offshore top books like BOL are also a must. for me they offer huge rebates on Horses and other benefits plus the payouts are also near instant via crypto. Balance of both is the way for anyone betting more then a few bucks

[littlekona]

Hey guys, so I made my account a couple days ago and I didn’t even recall I had a account 10+ years ago and BOL is saying I was multi accounting after requesting all this info which I provided. I never multi accounted as the old account has not been logged into my new one… was 100% not using multi accounts at the same time… big no no and not doing it….

they are clearly trying to not pay out because I had a large hit a few nights ago…

any suggestions ?

If you look at this dudes posts its obvious there is way more to this then some simple I made a honest mistake.
From using credit cards to admitting of prior accounts and asking CS about. I call BS and standard scammer getting caught

[icon]

I disagree. Offshore much more of an hassle than the legal shops. Especially getting paid if you don't do BTC. In addition. I never got the amount of Promo's from Offshore then I receive from the legal books. IMO it's not even close that the Legal shops are the way to go.

I guess it depends on your location.

I'm in Ontario and Bodog and Betonline payout via interac etransfer in minutes, Bookmaker is the slowest at a few hours via bitcoin.

Yes there are a few legal books like Draftkings and Betrivers that payout almost instantly as well but the odds at Betonline are usually better 90% of the time.

I'm a platinum status member at Betonline so I get perks that the legal books don't offer me.

Basically YMMV

[stevenash]

^
+1

[Easy-Rider 66]

Betonline, Bodog, & Bookmaker seem to be much better than anything the legal shops have to offer IMO.

I play at both offshore and legal books and offshore is so much less of a hassle.

I disagree. Offshore much more of an hassle than the legal shops. Especially getting paid if you don't do BTC. In addition. I never got the amount of Promo's from Offshore then I receive from the legal books. IMO it's not even close that the Legal shops are the way to go.

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Well…. Went to make a with withdraw via BTC, which I thought betonline didn’t have a KYC ordeal but clearly they do…. They are claiming I had 2 accounts but I never had 2 active accounts at one time… my account before this one was compromised, so I closed it down and they handled it. The agent on the phone said go ahead and create a new account which I did

any legal recourse against BOL???

CHeck you PM inbox too

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Has this happened to anyone at BOL? After over 20 years, they closed my account and took my $3k.
Without any notice or questions of me, betonline closed my account. The most I could find out was that there was suspicious activity regarding poker. I have NEVER played poker there. All I do is make $50 average sports bets and I rarely withdraw.
I have contacted them via email and get no reply when usually they are good at responding. I have spoken to a supervisor and they have promised to call back but never do.
Obviously either I was hacked or BOL was hacked but they never bothered to address the issue with me. I make 100% of my plays on my phone so they can easily compare IP addresses.
Has this happened to anyone out there. I would really appreciate some advice.

Thank You.

Check your PMs and I will send you an email address to contact who will at least try to make sure you are not being unfairly treated I am sure.

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Almost Diamond 3 and they haven't gave any bonuses for leveling up, no weekly/monthly bonuses, and no deposit bonuses. Despite that, Betonline remains my favorite offshore.

Are you signed up for the telegram weekly/monthly notices?

I'm Platinum 1 status and get weekly and monthly bonuses ie CASH at least every Saturday.

https://t.me/+qocf2b7gEiZmMjNh?start=b93936&token=0x3C77C0F8DABBF0F4C3371A00269A16AE

[icon]

I assume you can not play at USA Legal shops? If so too bad. If not the case stay with the USA books imo. GL.

Betonline, Bodog, & Bookmaker seem to be much better than anything the legal shops have to offer IMO.

I play at both offshore and legal books and offshore is so much less of a hassle.

[bettinfool]

Has this happened to anyone at BOL? After over 20 years, they closed my account and took my $3k.
Without any notice or questions of me, betonline closed my account. The most I could find out was that there was suspicious activity regarding poker. I have NEVER played poker there. All I do is make $50 average sports bets and I rarely withdraw.
I have contacted them via email and get no reply when usually they are good at responding. I have spoken to a supervisor and they have promised to call back but never do.
Obviously either I was hacked or BOL was hacked but they never bothered to address the issue with me. I make 100% of my plays on my phone so they can easily compare IP addresses.
Has this happened to anyone out there. I would really appreciate some advice.

Thank You.

[BookDatSh1t]

just want to echo what others have said about live betting. it is extremely hard to bet live because of the big delay (about 30 seconds) on bets going through. if their TV feed is delayed then only offer during TV timeouts but got to reduce the delay. they must be costing themselves a fortune in legit bets that can't get placed.

[SaltyPineapple]

Never had any issues with BOL, hate that they charge fees on crypto withdrawals, that is really bad. But other than that I enjoy their poker room in the USA. Keep us updated here, hopefully they pay you what you are owed.