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  • infotimbo
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    Confiscating funds should almost never be allowed, of course, but any idea why they could be closing your accounts? Did you play the same bets on both books, for example, or took any bonuses, although not eligible for it anymore?

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  • MatrixMax
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    Originally posted by MatrixMax
    Sounds like it’s Beekeeper time when I get my next deposit. By principle in my culture when a valuable is thieved from you, you “get it back in blood”. The first lead, Harry from Against All Odds out in Arizona should be fairly easy to locate, at the end of the day it is principle, a connection is a connection, a loss is a loss, an eye for an eye.
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  • MatrixMax
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    Sounds like it’s Beekeeper time when I get my next deposit. By principle in my culture when a valuable is thieved from you, you “get it back in blood”. The first lead, Harry from Against All Odds out in Arizona should be fairly easy to locate, at the end of the day it is principle, a connection is a connection, a loss is a loss, an eye for an eye.
    Last edited by MatrixMax; 04-20-25, 04:41 PM.

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  • MatrixMax
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    Originally posted by Optional

    You may not be wrong about what they intended, or do.

    But I don't like to see anyone excusing it as standard procedure. Like it is in any way justified for a business to say "Thanks for your money, we are not going to provide any service and will be coinfiscating your money and btw, we wont tell you why or discuss it further".

    The arrogance and straight up unfair/criminal mindset that can twist that in their head to think it fair and reasonable is astounding.

    The Betonline group and Dave Mason know that too!
    Yeah judging by the way the TrustPilot pages are ran for betonline.ag and sportsbetting.ag I’d hate to say that ARCHIVADO98 is very likely right in his “believe it when he sees it”. For literally every single legitimate negative 1-star experience, like mine, by a real user (you can tell as the 1-star are all posted by real people w/ First & Last names), the BetOnline team then goes behind and posts a generic 5-Star review by a basic first-name only user, and they are so blatant about it that they reuse the same profiles that posted 5-star reviews last year https://imgur.com/a/FtNVFPG I have emailed Dave as well and have yet to hear response, as he has posted on X/Twitter since https://x.com/davemasonbol/status/19...729241038?s=46

    Interesting operation they’ve got going on over there..

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  • Optional
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    Originally posted by ARCHIVADO98

    I want to be wrong, but I'll believe it when I see it.
    You may not be wrong about what they intended, or do.

    But I don't like to see anyone excusing it as standard procedure. Like it is in any way justified for a business to say "Thanks for your money, we are not going to provide any service and will be coinfiscating your money and btw, we wont tell you why or discuss it further".

    The arrogance and straight up unfair/criminal mindset that can twist that in their head to think it fair and reasonable is astounding.

    The Betonline group and Dave Mason know that too!

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  • ARCHIVADO98
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    Originally posted by Optional

    Rubbish.

    Stealing deposited funds with zero explanation never has been accepted by us as fair in the history of SBR. This is simply theft, the way it has ben handled.

    Dave Mason will ensure the deposit is returned or a proper explanation given.

    That is the books correct choices if they think explaining themselves is a security risk.

    I want to be wrong, but I'll believe it when I see it.

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  • MatrixMax
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    Originally posted by Optional

    Rubbish.

    Stealing deposited funds with zero explanation never has been accepted by us as fair in the history of SBR. This is simply theft, the way it has ben handled.

    Dave Mason will ensure the deposit is returned or a proper explanation given.

    That is the books correct choices if they think explaining themselves is a security risk.

    Thank you Optional, you have been of a great assistance. I can see how it would look suspicious if I tried to withdraw the entire balance, but again I requested $200 out of the total $1.3k balance that I had acquired over a couple of days from a $500 deposit. Albeit I’m NOT a scammer but I’d think it logical that if I was looking to scam I’d request for the entire balance to be withdrawn, if not at least the total of the deposit that I made, like make it make sense

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  • Optional
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    Originally posted by ARCHIVADO98

    That is to say, I'm 99% sure that after getting this type of answer/treatment you have zero chance of recovering your deposit if you are actually a scammer (pardon my language!). If you're not, the only way to recover it may be appealing the decision through the relevant Gaming Authority.
    Rubbish.

    Stealing deposited funds with zero explanation never has been accepted by us as fair in the history of SBR. This is simply theft, the way it has ben handled.

    Dave Mason will ensure the deposit is returned or a proper explanation given.

    That is the books correct choices if they think explaining themselves is a security risk.


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  • MatrixMax
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    Originally posted by ARCHIVADO98

    That is to say, I'm 99% sure that after getting this type of answer/treatment you have zero chance of recovering your deposit if you are actually a scammer (pardon my language!). If you're not, the only way to recover it may be appealing the decision through the relevant Gaming Authority.
    Well, again after having been a valued client for years with the original site BetOnline.Ag and having payouts like this https://imgur.com/a/SU7Jyvc I’m not so sure why attempting to withdraw a few hundred dollars from SportsBetting.ag raises any sort of alarm. All photocopies and documents sent for KYC verification were freshly taken upon the moment they were requested and have never been recycled.

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  • ARCHIVADO98
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    Originally posted by ARCHIVADO98
    Sounds like they are 101% certain the KYC documents they received, were being recycled and have proof sufficient for the Gaming Commission to uphold their decision.

    If this is the case, that's a standard answer because revealing any additional info would be helping the scammer involved in multi accounting.
    That is to say, I'm 99% sure that after getting this type of answer/treatment you have zero chance of recovering your deposit if you are actually a scammer (pardon my language!). If you're not, the only way to recover it may be appealing the decision through the relevant Gaming Authority.

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  • ARCHIVADO98
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    Sounds like they are 101% certain the KYC documents they received, were being recycled and have proof sufficient for the Gaming Commission to uphold their decision.

    If this is the case, that's a standard answer because revealing any additional info would be helping the scammer involved in multi accounting.

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  • Optional
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    Originally posted by MatrixMax

    No justification whatsoever other than simply stating that my account was being closed. https://imgur.com/a/XAZAmJ9
    That is not a reasonable way to act.

    I will PM you an email for their rep Dave Mason. I suggest asking him to review the deposit confiscation.



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  • MatrixMax
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    Originally posted by Optional

    Did they give you any justification for confiscating your deposit?

    They should never be touching deposited funds without a very good reason.
    No justification whatsoever other than simply stating that my account was being closed. https://imgur.com/a/XAZAmJ9

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  • Optional
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    Originally posted by MatrixMax
    Well.. after years of being a Platinum VIP III member with betonline.ag I decided to try out some action over at their sister site sportsbetting.ag. After depositing $500, having a +EV from my strategized play-style with table tennis, and rolling the $500 to $1500 with consistent green slips I decide to withdraw about $200 for an upcoming bill that I had due. About 2 hours after submitting my withdrawal request I receive an email about my withdrawal request being denied and to contact support. I contact support and am told that my account is under review and locked, and keep getting told different timelines about when I should hear back from the management/finance team. Finally I just log in to my betonline.ag account as that was not locked, requested for a member of the finance team to KYC me (i.e. sent a bank statement, picture of any cc/dc used to deposit in the past year, a photocopy of your license, and a photo of the license being held up for a selfie). After sending all of this I am then met with support telling me that my account will be closed along with all funds (my deposit included) confiscated due to a management business decision.. I literally got robbed and told to be okay with it. Then my betonline.ag account that I’ve had for years was subsequently closed. Very sick individuals that run this show. I never thought it’d be me after literally having withdrawals in the past on betonline.ag upwards of $10k but as soon as I start messing with their less reputable site sports betting.ag everything goes to hell.
    Did they give you any justification for confiscating your deposit?

    They should never be touching deposited funds without a very good reason.

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  • MatrixMax
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    Well.. after years of being a Platinum VIP III member with betonline.ag I decided to try out some action over at their sister site sportsbetting.ag. After depositing $500, having a +EV from my strategized play-style with table tennis, and rolling the $500 to $1500 with consistent green slips I decide to withdraw about $200 for an upcoming bill that I had due. About 2 hours after submitting my withdrawal request I receive an email about my withdrawal request being denied and to contact support. I contact support and am told that my account is under review and locked, and keep getting told different timelines about when I should hear back from the management/finance team. Finally I just log in to my betonline.ag account as that was not locked, requested for a member of the finance team to KYC me (i.e. sent a bank statement, picture of any cc/dc used to deposit in the past year, a photocopy of your license, and a photo of the license being held up for a selfie). After sending all of this I am then met with support telling me that my account will be closed along with all funds (my deposit included) confiscated due to a management business decision.. I literally got robbed and told to be okay with it. Then my betonline.ag account that I’ve had for years was subsequently closed. Very sick individuals that run this show. I never thought it’d be me after literally having withdrawals in the past on betonline.ag upwards of $10k but as soon as I start messing with their less reputable site sports betting.ag everything goes to hell.

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  • DISTROYA
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    Not sure what the dykstra reference is but anyways I got an email stating they credited back to my balance... still have no clue why the payout didn't go through no explanation of course; it was a standard Bitcoin payout . Anyways I requested with the same address to the betonline account instead of sportsbetting.ag and was processed in 5 minutes. Thx to all that chimed in. I wasn't worried about their financial situation however the money was taken out of the account and didn't see the funds in the blockchain+ with Bitcoin not too familiar with the technicalities I've heard horror stories of shitt getting lost there by errors in addresses etc. I thought they maybe screwed up.

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  • 2Sweeet
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    I call you Dykstra.... I promise you don't have anything to worry about with sportsbetting or betonline. Especially being a long time customer. You will be paid. They are one of the handful of offshore books that can still be trusted.
    Last edited by 2Sweeet; 04-15-25, 01:26 AM.

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  • DISTROYA
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    ThxOp, just never had something like this with sports betting.ag they would pay me in 5 minutes just like betodds. Let's see what happens tomorrow. Also I was under the impression they had timelines but they don't have them they're more like 12 or 15 cent lines which is disappointing

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  • Optional
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    Originally posted by DISTROYA
    Something really strange happened today I requested a payout for 2K usually they send it within 5 minutes they said it was processed however after repeated chats they're saying there's some issue which they don't know they escalated the situation Etc so don't see the funds does anyone else take sometimes overnight to get paid?
    I would not worry about the payment delay. Happens now and then but the only reason people get concerned is the usually reliable and fast processing. I'd be surprised if it takes very long.


    I believe overnight lines are supposed to come out right after the last game for today has started.

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  • DISTROYA
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    Also does anyone know when overnight dimelines are posted? Customer service is totally clueless they can't even answer

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  • DISTROYA
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    Something really strange happened today I requested a payout for 2K usually they send it within 5 minutes they said it was processed however after repeated chats they're saying there's some issue which they don't know they escalated the situation Etc so don't see the funds does anyone else take sometimes overnight to get paid?

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  • Optional
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    Sounds a bit over careful but as long as they give you a workable way to still withdraw I would probably give them the benefit of the doubt that the security measure is worth taking. Could be that the IP range you tried from has had previous issues for example. Not just that it doesn't match your home IP.

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  • agharah1
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    I tried to withdraw from BetOnline and they told me a "login mismatch" made them decline my request. I asked what they meant and their customer service said my IP address was not close enough to the address they have for me on file to initiate a withdrawal. Are they serious? You're only allowed to withdraw at home? They don't even let you change your address online how do the expect people to abide by that?

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  • damien4191
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    hey guys, apologize if this has been mentioned already but has anyone cracked the code on BOL and their VIP payoffs? About a year ago I got to Elite 1 and was hoping for an incredible bonus but I got something like $9,645.23..... I mean that's a nice amount of money and all but where the hell did they come up with that number? Same goes for their weekly payout bonus they give on telegram. Last week I got $120 back after losing 5k. This week I won 7k and have no idea if I will get a payout based on how much I won/lost or how much I bet overall.

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  • el_clarko
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    Originally posted by 2Sweeet
    Seems u know a lot of ppl there El Retardo who have had issues???? Bring some proof, I know the highest guy in charge there and if you aren't fos we can get to the bottom of it. Everyone here knows I'm no schill and lol that you think they care about 5k or you? You have no clue. Korean League of Legends esports LOL everyone bets this. Were u from El Retardo? I have a guess. but I'll let you tell us. Remember this isn't Nintendo 64 or Mario Cart so answer carefully.
    You honestly come off as a 13 year old degenerate. With how you keep disrespecting folks, you don't know anyone of any high position at ANY sportsbooks. You call someone "Retardo" and then want proof and that you can help? I wouldn't provide you with the piss from my d*ck even if you were on your last breath from dehydration. Learn to communicate like an adult, disrespectful piece of sh*t.

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  • stake1
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    Originally posted by el_clarko
    Today is my birthday and they gave me a free $100. Last year they gave me $600 so the offer definitely did decline a bit. Check your email and look for an email sent on your birthday. I had to click the link to get the offer. I am also Diamond II
    always start off nice, congrats on your birthday cash gift.
    that said that you got $600 last year. maybe you got some ‘free spins’

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  • 2Sweeet
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    Originally posted by el_clarko
    I can attest that BetOnline does indeed to care for $5K. I personally have no issues with BetOnline. As a matter of fact, they have the best offshore book rewards out there. I have personally witnessed an email to my friend on closing his account and holding his $8K due to "inside information/cheating". Opened a brand new account and ran his original deposit to $8K. Shortly after they closed his account. They were accusing him of cheating by having insider information, since profiting heavy on Pro Korean League of Legends esports lmao. I didn't believe it until I saw it myself. I do believe offshore books tend to target newer accounts that quickly start profiting and want to withdraw without losing money first.

    Not necessarily accusing them of cheating but will find a way to delay the payout. Such as very detailed KYC requests (utility bill, bank statement, selfie and ID with all matching names and addresses). Have also seen an account being closed with thousands in the balance for betting "more than 50% of the bonus" on one wager. Offshore books have been known to con their way out of paying new users without losing money first before withdrawing.

    If you are abusing bonuses with multiple accounts, then you deserve to get banned.
    Seems u know a lot of ppl there El Retardo who have had issues???? Bring some proof, I know the highest guy in charge there and if you aren't fos we can get to the bottom of it. Everyone here knows I'm no schill and lol that you think they care about 5k or you? You have no clue. Korean League of Legends esports LOL everyone bets this. Were u from El Retardo? I have a guess. but I'll let you tell us. Remember this isn't Nintendo 64 or Mario Cart so answer carefully.
    Last edited by 2Sweeet; 03-05-25, 10:03 PM.

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  • el_clarko
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    Originally posted by 2Sweeet
    I believe BOL will have devices used also. Forget the Wifi and IP. BOL doesn't care about 5k. So as others said you are going to have to prove it. Going to Grandmas were u live then to The Bitches ain't gonna cut it. Especially if u used the same devices at both places on both accts and took Bonuses.
    I can attest that BetOnline does indeed to care for $5K. I personally have no issues with BetOnline. As a matter of fact, they have the best offshore book rewards out there. I have personally witnessed an email to my friend on closing his account and holding his $8K due to "inside information/cheating". Opened a brand new account and ran his original deposit to $8K. Shortly after they closed his account. They were accusing him of cheating by having insider information, since profiting heavy on Pro Korean League of Legends esports lmao. I didn't believe it until I saw it myself. I do believe offshore books tend to target newer accounts that quickly start profiting and want to withdraw without losing money first.

    Not necessarily accusing them of cheating but will find a way to delay the payout. Such as very detailed KYC requests (utility bill, bank statement, selfie and ID with all matching names and addresses). Have also seen an account being closed with thousands in the balance for betting "more than 50% of the bonus" on one wager. Offshore books have been known to con their way out of paying new users without losing money first before withdrawing.

    If you are abusing bonuses with multiple accounts, then you deserve to get banned.

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  • el_clarko
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    Today is my birthday and they gave me a free $100. Last year they gave me $600 so the offer definitely did decline a bit. Check your email and look for an email sent on your birthday. I had to click the link to get the offer. I am also Diamond II

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  • Joegopro69
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    Betonline scammed me

    Bet online/wild casino/queenbeecasino are all sister accounts and they closed all my accounts due to having a couple of accounts. I had one with 2k balance on queenbeecasino.ag and they closed my account and didn’t let me take out the funds after asking why many times they gave me different excuses and ended up terminating all my accounts. I lost over $50,000 gambling on these sites and when I have to take out $2,000 they closed my account. How can I recover my accounts also don’t play these sites games are super addictive and when you have to cash out they don’t allow you to cash out

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  • Brooklyn Dick
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    Originally posted by Optional
    You'd have to be older than dirt for that to be true

    Was just trying to say looking back at the old bookie ways through rose colored glasses is nice but it's not really like they were any more altruistic, moral or forgiving when they felt cheated than todays bookies.
    Old enough to play 10 dimes a game with Bob Martin back in the day.

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  • Optional
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    Originally posted by Brooklyn Dick

    What risk.? When you bet a dime he moves the line and he could care less who bets into the number. And he only deals with one call at a time. Guess you are a lot younger than me.
    You'd have to be older than dirt for that to be true

    Was just trying to say looking back at the old bookie ways through rose colored glasses is nice but it's not really like they were any more altruistic, moral or forgiving when they felt cheated than todays bookies.

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  • Brooklyn Dick
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    Originally posted by Optional
    If he told you his risk tolerance for your play was $1000 a game, and then he found out you employed a beard to try to steal more than that from him by tricking him, tell me how your old school street bookie would handle that one?
    What risk.? When you bet a dime he moves the line and he could care less who bets into the number. And he only deals with one call at a time. Guess you are a lot younger than me.

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  • stake1
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    another ‘not surprising’ tale of botOnline stealing from a gambler. The audacity that they invoked a rule on page 2,803, subsection 1.Bs.0009847362 is right up their alley.
    back when I gambled there, ‘vip gifts’
    lmao. I got 4 footballs, 4 shot glasses, 4 tumblers, 4 bottle openers all sent to my address. with only one addressed to me
    other 3 all to some guy named kwan, butterfield, and vanessa. talked to a ‘vip host’ , which is a waste of time and said our bad, keep them all. In other words they are one of the most unorganized, worst cs, wasteful books around and I’d go to the mat to get my deposit back at a minimum if I was you

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  • Optional
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    Originally posted by Brooklyn Dick
    I have to laugh at this whole thing. Anyone around long enough before Offshore and dealt with REAL Bookmakers on the street that payed promptly on Monday would know they could give a rats ass on ;how many people in the same house play with him..In fact the more the merrier.
    If he told you his risk tolerance for your play was $1000 a game, and then he found out you employed a beard to try to steal more than that from him by tricking him, tell me how your old school street bookie would handle that one?

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