Which books haven't paid out on the US election?

**themike78** · 11-25-20, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by Barrakuda

thecuck78 grasping at straws again. Trump's out the door

Biden won't even make it in the door. He will most likely end up with a stroke before January he just turned 99 yesterday.

**Ian** · 11-25-20, 10:20 AM

It seems like the only books that haven't paid out by this point are Bookmaker and BetOnline/Sportbetting. Other books (that I use) are only waiting to grade states that haven't been certified yet.

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 11-25-20, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by themike78

The electors have the right to change their vote to Republican. Most likely most of them will because of the fraud that has been exposed.

In many states they have no right, they have to vote as pledged or the vote is cancelled.

Regardless, these are Democrat electors. They're not going to turn around and vote for Trump based on some dumb rumour on social media.

**pablo222** · 11-25-20, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by themike78

Biden won't even make it in the door. He will most likely end up with a stroke before January he just turned 99 yesterday.

Aren't you the moron that has been saying for years that bitcoin would be worth nothing anyday now?

**tlk23** · 11-25-20, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by pablo222

Aren't you the moron that has been saying for years that bitcoin would be worth nothing anyday now?

It's almost like he says shit just to get people to react to him.

**Vene1616** · 11-25-20, 11:17 AM

I heard Nitrogen paid out. Can anyone confirm this?

**ParlayTeaser** · 11-25-20, 12:08 PM

What excuses are the books who haven't paid out yet using? This is BS at this point like many others have pointed out!

**hankcream** · 11-25-20, 12:08 PM

My Trump +185 bet is still not graded @ BetOnline. If they waiting for Trump to concede it will never be graded

**Vene1616** · 11-25-20, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by Vene1616

I heard Nitrogen paid out. Can anyone confirm this?

Was able to log in at last. They are graded, BIDEN WINS

**hustledouble** · 11-25-20, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by themike78

The electors have the right to change their vote to Republican. Most likely most of them will because of the fraud that has been exposed.

Yeah I didn’t think so

**vanzack** · 11-25-20, 01:17 PM

Nitrogen paid.

Come on Bookmaker. Lets go.

**ParlayTeaser** · 11-25-20, 01:27 PM

Come on BetOnline! Grade the election bets!

**tlk23** · 11-25-20, 01:28 PM

From BetOnline
Any Politics wagers that could be graded were however we have multiple that cannot yet be graded. It is possible wagers will remain pending until January unless Trump concedes. We will continue to monitor and grade as soon as we feel confident the result will not change.

**ParlayTeaser** · 11-25-20, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by tlk23

From BetOnline
Any Politics wagers that could be graded were however we have multiple that cannot yet be graded. It is possible wagers will remain pending until January unless Trump concedes. We will continue to monitor and grade as soon as we feel confident the result will not change.

F'n BS. I bet they are buried in Biden wagers despite what they said. I watched the line movement the past several months. I can't wait to be done with them once this is over.

**tlk23** · 11-25-20, 01:43 PM

I asked them again, because it seems like they give me a different answer every time I ask.

The Popular Vote has been Graded due to Joe Biden being over 4 Million votes ahead. The remaining markets will be reviewed on a daily basis from Monday with consideration given to all the undoubted legal angles that will be faced.

Biden is now up over 6 million votes.

**StackinGreen** · 11-25-20, 01:52 PM

All of these are challenged and PA will likely rule (correctly) that their OWN constitutional law was violated by allowing all the fake mail in votes. Why you guys are complaining about this is beyond me. The election is fraudulent, clearly, but beyond that you DO NOT WIN THE ELECTION UNLESS, at a minimum, you have won the electoral college. Second, and LONGER in terms of settling would be an inauguration endpoint.

Stop bitching about your cheater, it just shows that you are more worried because you know the vote was a fraud and are worried it'll be overturned.

**ParlayTeaser** · 11-25-20, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by tlk23

I asked them again, because it seems like they give me a different answer every time I ask.

The Popular Vote has been Graded due to Joe Biden being over 4 Million votes ahead. The remaining markets will be reviewed on a daily basis from Monday with consideration given to all the undoubted legal angles that will be faced.

Biden is now up over 6 million votes.

Same thing here from previous correspondence. Different excuse every time that doesn't make sense. I can't wait to get out of there.

**StackinGreen** · 11-25-20, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by robbypark

The electoral college has been won. Trump has conceded. The supreme court has confirmed they will not even hear his case. There is zero avenue left for Trump to win. Quit living in your own deluded reality just because you worship Trump.

Dumbest post of all time. Not a single one of your statements is true. Is the sky orange too, Robby?

**StackinGreen** · 11-25-20, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by ParlayTeaser

Same thing here from previous correspondence. Different excuse every time that doesn't make sense. I can't wait to get out of there.

Do you even know what the electoral college is, or that it determines the election? I mean, you can't make up this kind of stupid. I know you have a bet on it, but jeez, act like you have been in America before. No wonder you voted for Quid Pro Joe.

**Mr. NBA** · 11-25-20, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by tlk23

Nothing yet from BetOnline. It's frustrating, especially considering the bet was Odds to Win the 2020 US Presidential Election. Not who the next President will be, but who won the election and we have known for over two weeks now that Biden was the winner.

BOL will pay out December 15th at the latest Per Dave Mason

**vanzack** · 11-25-20, 01:59 PM

So if an NFL game ended with a bad call on the field, like the Rams Saints playoff game a few years ago where there was obvious pass interference - and the Saints coach is mad about the call, complains about the call, all his fans complain also - then says he is appealing to the NFL to overturn with no precedent or evidence - these sportsbooks wouldn't grade that game?

It is absurd at this point. Everyone knows it.

**vanzack** · 11-25-20, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by StackinGreen

Dumbest post of all time. Not a single one of your statements is true. Is the sky orange too, Robby?

No, but your president is.

**StackinGreen** · 11-25-20, 02:05 PM

Orange man bad. LOL

at least you understand that we elect people via the EC, vanny

why is this so hard to keep telling you guys

**ParlayTeaser** · 11-25-20, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by StackinGreen

Do you even know what the electoral college is, or that it determines the election? I mean, you can't make up this kind of stupid. I know you have a bet on it, but jeez, act like you have been in America before. No wonder you voted for Quid Pro Joe.

You've been awfully bitchy since Trump got smacked in the election. Change your pad little girl, you'll be alright January 20th.

**ParlayTeaser** · 11-25-20, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by Mr. NBA

BOL will pay out December 15th at the latest Per Dave Mason

Did he say why they are waiting until December 15th, it's a week after states pick their electors I believe? Weird date and it's going to cost them customers when they see other books have already paid out. Who wants to wait another 3 weeks for no reason?

**vanzack** · 11-25-20, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by StackinGreen

Orange man bad. LOL

at least you understand that we elect people via the EC, vanny

why is this so hard to keep telling you guys

OK... To play along....

How do you interpret the word "elected"?

Does that mean who won the election, or who will be in the white house on Jan 21?

To me - the word inherently means who won the election - which is of no rational dispute at this point.

**Triumph** · 11-25-20, 02:46 PM

Justbet and Skybook still not paying election bets

Are they going to wait till Jan. 20th?

**tlk23** · 11-25-20, 03:24 PM

Dave Mason

Our focus for grading the Election is on December 14th when the Electoral College meets and officially declares a winner. We anticipate the official outcome will most likely be declared at that point. We are constantly monitoring the matter and will continue to do so.

**hustledouble** · 11-25-20, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by ParlayTeaser

Did he say why they are waiting until December 15th, it's a week after states pick their electors I believe? Weird date and it's going to cost them customers when they see other books have already paid out. Who wants to wait another 3 weeks for no reason?

December 14th is supposed to be the day when the state electors officially register their votes in the electoral college.

It might be a coincidence but I told Dave Mason the other day that instead of referencing the "decision guys" every time someone asked a question on Twitter about it they might just want to establish a firm line for when they will pay out bets; so maybe that encouraged them to do that or maybe it was just a coincidence.

Either way, that's basically 2.5-3 weeks from now and now people have a firm date over which they can start losing their minds.

**ParlayTeaser** · 11-25-20, 04:23 PM

Ok did some digging and didn't even think that they're reluctant to grade the wagers at BetOnline & Bookmaker because of the rising value of Bitcoin. So we are basically being juiced by the book while giving them an interest free loan. It may pay off short term but long term will cost you customers.

**vanzack** · 11-25-20, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by parlayteaser

ok did some digging and didn't even think that they're reluctant to grade the wagers at betonline & bookmaker because of the rising value of bitcoin. So we are basically being juiced by the book while giving them an interest free loan. It may pay off short term but long term will cost you customers.

this.

**DontTailMe** · 11-25-20, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by tlk23

It's almost like he says shit just to get people to react to him.

To be fair, it's really hard to tell the difference between trolls and honest commentary these days. People actually believe this shit.

**DontTailMe** · 11-25-20, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by ParlayTeaser

F'n BS. I bet they are buried in Biden wagers despite what they said. I watched the line movement the past several months. I can't wait to be done with them once this is over.

I actually believe everything they've said about getting hammered on the Trump side. When they have Biden CA at -1000 and Biden NY at -1000 for extended periods of time, there is something severely wrong with where the average BOL bettor's head is at.

**ParlayTeaser** · 11-26-20, 08:31 AM

Originally posted by DontTailMe

I actually believe everything they've said about getting hammered on the Trump side. When they have Biden CA at -1000 and Biden NY at -1000 for extended periods of time, there is something severely wrong with where the average BOL bettor's head is at.

I saw both get bet up to -1600 and closer to -2000 and more near the election so I'm not too sure about that. Bettors finally decided to hit those no-brainer odds on Biden eventually. Just reading the line movements from the past several months, I don't see how they were heavy on Trump bets.

At a certain point, the election bet never dropped below -155 where it would fluctuate between there and -180 to -200. I'm not an oddsmaker but I'm not stupid either. Heavy Trump action would have broke that -155 line eventually. Some people we're loading back up on Biden everytime it dipped. BOL is full of shit that they were heavy on Trump bets. They are using the held Bitcoins to offset this loss though and riding it out.

**ParlayTeaser** · 11-26-20, 08:34 AM

Why would Bet Online grade state wagers that are still being contested that give Biden over 270 EC votes but not the Presidential Election? They would be better off just coming out and telling us they need the short term loan as Bitcoin continues to rise in price and we'll get back to you next month after we sell off when it declines.