Yes, we never were even trying to get political. I was literally just telling the boys here what the endpoints are for elections, and the earliest there is at all (especially in an unprecedented fraud case of several states with hundreds of lawsuits) is the EC. Inauguration is the later, and more official endpoint. As I said before, the only people worried about this are those that fear that they won't be graded a winner. It's American Civics 101. But yeah, no one even knows what the constitution says anymore, or cares. So there is that, which explains it all.
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All my sites paid out right away after two of the three news organizations made the calls, I absolutely cleaned up this election.
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I can't believe any books have paid out. There are pending lawsuits. I sure wouldn't grade any of these while there are lawsuits pending.Comment -
Intertops refunded my ~7:1 Biden bet ($150) about a year ago and shut down my account randomly when I tried to withdraw. F those D bags.
Bovada paid about a week ago. A large amount. I thought with the hours and hours of reauthentication I went through with them before the election, they would be the last, but they paid out - no questions asked. Props to them on that.
BetOnline dragging their heels. I understand their position, though. Can you imagine what a nightmare it would be for them if somehow the results were overturned? What if Biden dies? Constitutionally, no President has been decided yet - why pay out?
Think all of these betting sites were thinking they would lose their shirts with the odds they gave Biden originally, but made out like bandits with many bettors thinking Trump won the election, after the first night. Those bettors lost bigly.Last edited by Brian Hast; 12-14-20, 10:30 PM.Comment -
The lawsuits are a joke though, just so Trump can rack up donations. He's made almost 200 million profit since the election doing that.
Here's an example judgement yesterday, the so-called "Kraken suit" in Arizona:
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Plaintiffs bring their Complaint seeking injunctive relief from this Court,specifically, to “set aside the results of the 2020 General Election,” because they claim the election process and results were “so riddled with fraud, illegality and statistical impossibility . . . that Arizona voters, courts and legislators cannot rely on or certify” itsresults
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Not only have Plaintiffs failed to provide the Court with factual support for theirextraordinary claims, but they have wholly failed to establish that they have standing forthe Court to consider them. Allegations that find favor in the public sphere of gossip andinnuendo cannot be a substitute for earnest pleadings and procedure in federal court. They
most certainly cannot be the basis for upending Arizona’s 2020 General Election. TheCourt is left with no alternative but to dismiss this matter in its entirety.
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To be fair those Powell "Kraken" suits aren't connected to Trump directly since they canned her and she is profiting off those more than him AFAIK but its not like there is any incentive for Trump to have them stop either. He's definitely fundraising on the other stuff.
A few more rebuffs from the Supreme Court and then we should be on to the "faithless electors" portion of the Trump fantasy. Won't be long now!Comment -
You're asking books to grade a bet that people are still wagering on. Good luck with that.
I have pending political bets too and it's very annoying. But I knew this might happen when I made them.Comment -
Forget which side you are on for a second, just be honest - they said (both sides) were going to fight and not concede. You literally knew that at least until well into December would be the earliest settle date, and to be honest it should be until January 21 since this shit is so shady.Comment -
the funniest part of this whole thing even though it will never be reversed the election is that it happened right under the nose of Trump. Cements him as the biggest laughing stock worst president ever.
BTW....it will be soo nice when this is over so sick of troll Trump guys cry in every forum and book troll box. My God go away!
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Bookmaker still hasn't graded my Biden wins by 60-99 electoral votes. I think they're waiting for 12/14 for the electors to certify their vote officially.Comment -
whats an extra couple months on such a long future?
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Concession isn't a required formality or an official part of the process. In other words, there is no official/legal requirement for a candidate to concede. By that language then even if Trump did concede the book could technically wait until after Inauguration to pay out.
A week-or-so ago Trump apparently said he would "agree to a transfer of power" if the Electoral College voted for Biden, which would be a de-facto concession.
Point is these books can interpret this stuff however they want and there is little incentive to do so ahead of the first moment they absolutely have to by their own terms.
I am guessing a lot more places will pay out next week after the Electoral College votes but people should be prepared to wait it out through Inauguration at some of these outsComment -
BOL said they would be grading wagers Monday December 14th when Electoral College meets 👍Comment -
Where did you read this? They only have Dave Mason on Twitter saying it's not up to him and stalling for the "decision makers". They are simply ignoring bettors asking about the election bets now. I wouldn't be surprised if they drag it out to inauguration day even though the bet said win the election and the electoral college votes have been certified. There's no valid reason to delay at this point. Despite what they said, they must be buried in Biden wagers.Comment -
"Our focus for grading the Election is on December 14th when the Electoral College meets and officially declares a winner. We anticipate the official outcome will most likely be declared at that point. We are constantly monitoring the matter and will continue to do so."
There's plenty of wiggle room there for them to keep waiting after Dec 14 if there are still pending lawsuits.Comment -
[QUOTE=ParlayTeaser;29952692]Where did you read this? They only have Dave Mason on Twitter saying it's not up to him and stalling for the "decision makers". They are simply ignoring bettors asking about the election bets now. I wouldn't be surprised if they drag it out to inauguration day even though the bet said win the election and the electoral college votes have been certified. There's no valid reason to delay at this point. Despite what they said, they must be buried in .
Live chat said it yesterday. Sounded like a pre written response from management.Comment -
Sorry but all Biden bets are losers. There is about a 99% chance Trump remains in office after Supreme Court ruling.Comment -
I've got a bet for you. Will Biden be inaugurated on Jan 20th?
I'll bet my 1 bet point against your 100 bet points. As much as you'd like. If Trump has a 0% chance of winning it's a no brainer. If Trump has a 1% chance of winning or higher, then the books shouldn't be grading these bets yet.Comment -
Well, all that's left in this election cycle is Trump gaslighting the morons and inbreeds into thinking there's some chance he can still win and his legal team of Liberty U grad Jenna Ellis and the demented fool Rudy, two of the dumbest lawyers to ever walk the planet, making public fools of themselves in and out of court, but I guess Trump has to keep grifting and soliciting donations from the dumbfucks so we'll have to wait until after the inauguration to get paid. Not that big of a deal and we can pass the interim watching the limitless depths of stupidity of Trump's legal team of morons and various other traitors get humiliated on a regular basis as the Trump cult holds on to the staggeringly ignorant wishful thought that Trump has a chance. It's just kind of odd that BOL and some other books have paid some bets but not others.Comment -
Not to pile on (any more than I just did in my last post) but, to your point, when I bet it, Biden to win the popular vote was only -600. That's like the Kansas City Chiefs being -600 to beat the Kansas Jayhawks. Who the penetrate had money left over from their welfare check and a trip to their Meth dealer to bet Trump to win the popular vote at those numbers?Comment -
Another supreme court case laughed out.
Electors vote on Monday.Comment -
Onto the faithless electors angle!Comment
