Which books haven't paid out on the US election?

**ParlayTeaser** · 11-17-20, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by pologq

bookmaker told my dad again yesterday they are waiting for legal results to be finalized. whatever the fcuk that means.

this is all a tactic to hold winnings and not reward timely. they should be ashamed and SBR should really reach out. enough is enough.

It's BS. They are just holding our money hostage at this point. There's no rational reason for them to not grade this now since the election is over. I can understand who will be the next president wagers because that involves swearing in but they probably got pounded by Biden wagers too.

**DISTROYA** · 11-17-20, 06:14 PM

sportsbook.ag....electoral, georgia
pinnacle: electoral/georgia
bookmaker: georgia
books= fukking joke.

Sure lots more this is what they are holding hostage in my case.

**Judge Crater** · 11-17-20, 06:26 PM

Georgia will certify in the coming days

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 11-17-20, 06:45 PM

Trump about to lose a case in Pennsylvania also, it's going to get tossed out as Giuliani had to admit he had no proof of any fraud. They will certify next Monday.

**macb** · 11-17-20, 07:42 PM

not so fast my friend. Powell will make your head spin

**vanzack** · 11-17-20, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by vanzack

Can SBR please contact Bookmaker to find out what they need to pay election bets?

Can't state bets be paid at this point?

It would help a lot of people to understand the exact criteria they are looking for to grade these wagers.

SBR.... I'm not interested in what the yokels at this forum have to say about whether or not the election is over. I am only interested in what Bookmaker says is their criteria for grading the wagers.

Can you do this community a service and find that out for us?

**StackinGreen** · 11-18-20, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by macb

not so fast my friend. Powell will make your head spin

Yup, a few things going on.

1. Fraud was clear and widespread, blatantly obvious and abnormal (3 am counting sessions without anyone there? LOL, that's convenient - and in all the DMV urban city locations where 100k+ were put in). The law/judicial side of this is "What will make a judge decide when fraud is too much?"

2. Biden was heavily juiced due to the media propaganda and polling. Enough idiots bet Biden at high enough fav for the books to wait to see if they can cash.

3. We talked about all of this before the election and the consensus weeks ago was that at a minimum one waits for the Electoral College convening, maximum inauguration.

All of those mean that there should be no grading before December 13, earliest.

**StackinGreen** · 11-18-20, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by ParlayTeaser

It's BS. They are just holding our money hostage at this point. There's no rational reason for them to not grade this now since the election is over. I can understand who will be the next president wagers because that involves swearing in but they probably got pounded by Biden wagers too.

Read my post for clear, rational reasons. You are biased, completely.

**frankthetank** · 11-18-20, 12:59 PM

The media has nothing to do with who is officially declared the winner. Therefore the race is not official yet. The sportsbooks are not trying to hold your money. They have to wait until the race is official.

**DontTailMe** · 11-18-20, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by frankthetank

The media has nothing to do with who is officially declared the winner. Therefore the race is not official yet. The sportsbooks are not trying to hold your money. They have to wait until the race is official.

Books don't HAVE to wait. In normal years, the sportsbooks go by the media call. This year, unfortunately, we have a child throwing a temper tantrum, so everyone has to wait for the official results.

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 11-18-20, 01:45 PM

Trump loses Pennsylvania case also. Again presented no evidence.

1-25 in cases so far, with the one being nothing to do with fraud, just a minor tweak in postal voting eligibility that made no difference.

**ParlayTeaser** · 11-18-20, 05:27 PM

This is madness. Held up because of a delusional madman.

**StackinGreen** · 11-18-20, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by DontTailMe

Books don't HAVE to wait. In normal years, the sportsbooks go by the media call. This year, unfortunately, we have a child throwing a temper tantrum, so everyone has to wait for the official results.

Since 2000 everyone has conceded. Come on now, do we have to think for you too?

And yeah, it has nothing to do with Hillary also telling Quid Pro Joe to never concede ... that doesn't affect anything. It's always orange man bad to some. Weird reality they live in

**ace7550** · 11-18-20, 06:25 PM

I have pending bets at betus, skybook, bol, and bookmaker. A few G's tied up. It's very annoying but I wouldn't grade them either. Still too many unknowns. I don't expect to see these graded (and/or cancelled) until Mid Dec, and maybe not until Jan.

**DontTailMe** · 11-18-20, 07:06 PM

Originally posted by StackinGreen

Since 2000 everyone has conceded.

Exactly. This backs up my post. Thank you.

**hustledouble** · 11-18-20, 11:17 PM

Originally posted by StackinGreen

Yup, a few things going on.

1. Fraud was clear and widespread, blatantly obvious and abnormal (3 am counting sessions without anyone there? LOL, that's convenient - and in all the DMV urban city locations where 100k+ were put in). The law/judicial side of this is "What will make a judge decide when fraud is too much?"

Not even close to "clear and widespread, blatantly obvious and abnormal" which is why "the law/judicial side of this" hasn't come within the same solar system as thinking "this fraud is too much".

You've got to be penetrating drooling to think shit like this.

**DoubleRedDragon** · 11-18-20, 11:39 PM

the books that are still taking bets on trump? (i heard betting on trump right now is actually a thing :P )

**Sawyer** · 11-19-20, 04:32 AM

Originally posted by DoubleRedDragon

the books that are still taking bets on trump? (i heard betting on trump right now is actually a thing :P )

Betfair still didn't paid. Yes, they still take bets on trump at +1900

**Fishhead** · 11-19-20, 07:12 AM

Originally posted by DoubleRedDragon

the books that are still taking bets on trump? (i heard betting on trump right now is actually a thing :P )

Seems he has a chance to still win, lots of developments in his favor last 48 hours

**temple2010** · 11-19-20, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by ace7550

I have pending bets at betus, skybook, bol, and bookmaker. A few G's tied up. It's very annoying but I wouldn't grade them either. Still too many unknowns. I don't expect to see these graded (and/or cancelled) until Mid Dec, and maybe not until Jan.

Betus- just graded my Pennsylvania bet

**DISTROYA** · 11-19-20, 12:53 PM

kicking and screaming...just wont leave or concede or go away

**ace7550** · 11-19-20, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by temple2010

Betus- just graded my Pennsylvania bet

Thanks for the heads up Temple. I also had Penn and mine is graded too.

**ace7550** · 11-19-20, 02:27 PM

I really don't know what Trump's odds are of getting any states overturned or the entire election overturned or cancelled. His chances may be minimal but I'm pretty sure they aren't zero.
It's very surprising to me that there is so much variation in how the books are grading these political bets. If anything does get overturned it's gonna be a shit show. The books that graded early are gonna have some major issues.

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 11-19-20, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by ace7550

Thanks for the heads up Temple. I also had Penn and mine is graded too.

Would have thought if they waited this long they'd wait till Monday, when PA will certify. That's the end of the road then, the electoral votes are legally committed to Biden.

**DontTailMe** · 11-19-20, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by ace7550

Thanks for the heads up Temple. I also had Penn and mine is graded too.

I don't fault these sportsbooks for being cautious and waiting at all...

But cases like this are head scratchers. So they wait all this time to grade what has been an obvious PA Biden win, and then decide to grade it before certification and while there is still a case pending in court? Odd.

**vanzack** · 11-19-20, 04:48 PM

After that Rudy Guilliani press conference..... I am very nervous about my Biden election bet.

That is sarcastic. He is a buffoon, and if that is the best Trump can do - these books should grade these bets immediately.

**Ruifgalmeida** · 11-19-20, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by Sawyer

Betfair still didn't paid. Yes, they still take bets on trump at +1900

Biden still was 1.05 odds that is crazy, it should be 1.001

**StackinGreen** · 11-19-20, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by Judge Crater

Georgia will certify in the coming days

This isn't aging well.

**StackinGreen** · 11-19-20, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by vanzack

After that Rudy Guilliani press conference..... I am very nervous about my Biden election bet.

That is sarcastic. He is a buffoon, and if that is the best Trump can do - these books should grade these bets immediately.

I love it. "I'm not worried."

"But please grade those bets immediately."

**StackinGreen** · 11-19-20, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by ace7550

I really don't know what Trump's odds are of getting any states overturned or the entire election overturned or cancelled. His chances may be minimal but I'm pretty sure they aren't zero.
It's very surprising to me that there is so much variation in how the books are grading these political bets. If anything does get overturned it's gonna be a shit show. The books that graded early are gonna have some major issues.

There is a very good chance the electors won't show for Biden as the votes won't be certified. The media is doing another disservice to the people here, ironically by not covering this so people don't even know what's really going on.

I asked my bookie specifically what the rules were and while the answer was not great (or his PPH controls it) I still have recourse because I spoke to him about it clearly. When Trump wins through the House vote, you bet your ass I'm demanding payment.

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 11-19-20, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by StackinGreen

This isn't aging well.

Urrrm, the Georgia secretary of state (a Republican) just finished the recount, and said he will certify tomorrow. The last Trump case to delay that has been thrown out (by a Republican judge appointed by Trump), since they didn't provide any evidence - again.

**Undefeated77** · 11-19-20, 10:56 PM

Originally posted by StackinGreen

Yup, a few things going on.

1. Fraud was clear and widespread, blatantly obvious and abnormal (3 am counting sessions without anyone there? LOL, that's convenient - and in all the DMV urban city locations where 100k+ were put in). The law/judicial side of this is "What will make a judge decide when fraud is too much?"

2. Biden was heavily juiced due to the media propaganda and polling. Enough idiots bet Biden at high enough fav for the books to wait to see if they can cash.

3. We talked about all of this before the election and the consensus weeks ago was that at a minimum one waits for the Electoral College convening, maximum inauguration.

All of those mean that there should be no grading before December 13, earliest.

Excellent.

**ParlayTeaser** · 11-19-20, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by HeeeHAWWWW

Urrrm, the Georgia secretary of state (a Republican) just finished the recount, and said he will certify tomorrow. The last Trump case to delay that has been thrown out (by a Republican judge appointed by Trump), since they didn't provide any evidence - again.

Yep! Georgia is a done deal now and the other dominoes will soon fall. Trump knows this and just wants to cause chaos at this point.

**scandler37** · 11-20-20, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by Ian

I'm waiting for Bookmaker also. According to their live chat, they are waiting until a definitive result from either: inauguration, a Trump concession, or a controversy free conclusion to the electoral college vote.

Yeah, well Bookmaker are complete hypocrites, because they already graded my wager on electoral college margin as a LOSS. How can they grade a bet on the electoral college a loss and NOT grade the presidential election bets? Makes absolutely no sense.

**scandler37** · 11-20-20, 02:51 PM

Ummm...NO. Not a single lawsuit has gone Trump's way in terms of having any effect in overturning results. They are ALL being either: 1) thrown out , 2) dropped by Republicans or 3) ruled to have no bearing on election results.

Reality stings.