An apology to all Betislands players

**RealSlimShady** · 12-18-12, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by Betislands

The backing pulled out due to legal issues.

Was the backer involved in the large Pinnacle bust?

**SamDiamond** · 12-18-12, 08:11 PM

I remember BetOnSports, whatever happened to those guys?

Weren't they locked up?

**harvesters** · 12-18-12, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by Betislands

My posting does not expect sympathy at all . I was a member of this forum and I worked for a company that right now has harmed players and I understand that none of my actions would be taking in a positive manner but silence would just not be correct on my end , I am posting regardless of the threats and insults.

I read posts from clients saying I ran with a million dollars , which is absurd I am not hiding nor will I hide ... ask every major book owner who I really am ?

I was never the main money nor the financial backer of BI , I truly hope that solutions will appear for players that have lost money in this transaction.

Regarding payout questions , our payouts always went out like clockwork for 2 years so when I was given updates I had no reason not to believe them since they had always done right by clients.

I understand the feel and need to pin this down on someone and why not the guy that posted for Betislands ? but like I said this is a small industry ask around dig deep enough and you will find out that the backers indeed had legal issues and that I indeed did my best for clients.

I spoke with every single respected book to try and get help from them leaving any personal interest aside for the players sake just to have them turn me down.

You can choose to insult me and threaten me , but you can also verify what I just posted.

JON

This is very simple. You lied often and at times in a very offensive manner. If you couldn't be honest you should have said nothing.

**HeDidDisToHim** · 12-18-12, 08:31 PM

Can we at least see some pics of all the luxuries you bought with our money?

**Speedy88** · 12-18-12, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by HeDidDisToHim

Can we at least see some pics of all the luxuries you bought with our money?

Jon with a party full of hookers and a mountain of cocaine.

**Clown Shoes** · 12-18-12, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by SamDiamond

I remember BetOnSports, whatever happened to those guys?

Weren't they locked up?

I had a balance of around 200 dollars when BetOnSports went under. I got a check for 6 bucks last fall saying my account was settled.

**Chi_archie** · 12-18-12, 08:52 PM

Jon any plans to get a tattoo with the amount of money that BI stole from players on your ding dong? or is the number too many digits to fit?

**Scooter** · 12-18-12, 08:53 PM

"Some of you can call me a thief a fraud I was the GM for the company not the banker nor the financial decision maker. If the book at a time was performing correctly how can you blame the <acronym title="Google Page Ranking">PR</acronym> guy to speak good of the company?"

Nice attempt at evading any personal responsibility for the shell company you were in charge of and promoted.

The people who ran Bernie Madoff's company were imprisoned along with Madoff.
The sort of excuses you make did not play in court.

**SamDiamond** · 12-18-12, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

Jon any plans to get a tattoo with the amount of money that BI stole from players on your ding dong? or is the number too many digits to fit?

Come on Arch. Don't hate the PLAYA PLAYA, hate the game.

Jon be reprensentin' yo.

**Scooter** · 12-18-12, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by Frogger

A real man admits when he does wrong and comes with the truth. I'm sure he only wanted to get out for months because things starting taking a financial turn for the worst. If he was making tons of money and the company looked bright I highly doubt he would have wanted to get out.

That being said ... I've NEVER been a BI fanboy but this post does make me respect Jon more, and everyone should remember this situation is bad for everyone. Bad for the industry as a whole, SBR, Bet Islands, Jon, and most important above everything else ... the customers who lost money in this sad sad sicking gross situation.

We need to all come together and try to make it so this doesn't happen ever again. There is nothing left to do.

You are truly a moron.

**cincy** · 12-18-12, 09:01 PM

I don't want to hear any more of this bullshit Jon. What about all the straight up lies that you have been telling for weeks. I have a chat where Ryan promised my $4500 check by 11/9 but that didn't happen. Then I was told a wire was already sent but that was a lie because nobody ever attempted to send it. Then you personally told me "I will make sure you get your package from within the US by Monday 12/3" but that was a lie. Then you promised to do a sportsbook transfer for me by 12/5 but never did anything. I have all the chats and e-mails to prove all this is true. It seems all you actions were an attempt to delay payouts and screw people out of their money. Follow through on your promise to me and then maybe I will listen.

**flyingillini** · 12-18-12, 09:07 PM

Didn't Jon say he was the owner in many different posts? I think I remember seeing that however I may be wrong. Jon is a legend and loved him on the FIFA site in the spiderman mask. All praise to be Jon!

**SamDiamond** · 12-18-12, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by flyingillini

Didn't Jon say he was the owner in many different posts? I think I remember seeing that however I may be wrong. Jon is a legend and loved him on the FIFA site in the spiderman mask. All praise to be Jon!

Well, Justin from SBR sure called him the owner.

So, you're probably right.

**Milk Money** · 12-18-12, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by flyingillini

Didn't Jon say he was the owner in many different posts? I think I remember seeing that however I may be wrong. Jon is a legend and loved him on the FIFA site in the spiderman mask. All praise to be Jon!

yes he calls himself the "owner and founder" in the 7red, ez related thread. He also refers to his "partners". Why would a general manager have partners?

**touchback** · 12-18-12, 09:14 PM

Just so one piece of truth is known.... it is known that Jon did try and shop BetIslands around CR for a backer. I heard he approached just about every service that he thought could handle the sheet. Too much red and too much sharp action, no one would even consider taking it on....

**Scooter** · 12-18-12, 09:16 PM

Originally posted by KGambler

So if SBR "confirmed" that the owner of BI was an experienced bookmaker, that he was known in the industry and that he was financially secure... then they know his name. And if they know his name, then they know he was arrested back in October.

KGambler - Interesting info. Why aren't you being direct and stating his name?

**InsiderHer** · 12-18-12, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by touchback

Just so one piece of truth is known.... it is known that Jon did try and shop BetIslands around CR for a backer. I heard he approached just about every service that he thought could handle the sheet. Too much red and too much sharp action, no one would even consider taking it on....

This is post is accurate.

**KGambler** · 12-18-12, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by Scooter

KGambler - Interesting info. Why aren't you being direct and stating his name?

Sorry, I was just putting two and two together. I don't know his name. He was one of those gumbas pinched in NYC from what I can gather. I don't think SBR will be naming him anytime soon, for various reasons. And I am sure the guy is mobbed up, probably an associate/tax payer if not a soldier.

Do we know which one of those gumbas was linked to Jazz? Cause I'd bet that's the guy we are looking for. I am sure the feds and DA know which one(s) were linked to Jazz, but I don't know if they release that info.

**Frogger** · 12-18-12, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by Scooter

You are truly a moron.

I think the morons were the ones praising this new book that had been open for barely any time. You can look back at my post history and you will see that I was never one of those, and if anything I was urging caution.

My point that you called me a moron for was that now that the gig was obviously up, its was time for Jon and SBR to come forward with the truth.

Truth is no one is getting paid and there is no money. Stalling and speeches about one more week or one more month or processor issues or whatever needed to stop.

**raiders72001** · 12-18-12, 09:38 PM

Jon had no idea what was going on. SBR thought the owner(s) were solid. When SBR knew that people were going to get stiffed, they covered it up. Players are getting stiffed and it's the owners that are ultimately to blame. SBR also shitted on the players that are getting stiffed by not downgrading BI when they smelled trouble.

**SamDiamond** · 12-18-12, 09:44 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

Jon had no idea what was going on. SBR thought the owner(s) were solid. When SBR knew that people were going to get stiffed, they covered it up. Players are getting stiffed and it's the owners that are ultimately to blame. SBR also shitted on the players that are getting stiffed by not downgrading BI when they smelled trouble.

Not according to one of the 7843 lies told by Jon, or the story posted by both Dozer and SBR_John.

**PaperTrail07** · 12-18-12, 09:54 PM

Originally posted by SamDiamond

I remember BetOnSports, whatever happened to those guys?

Weren't they locked up?

I was like the 15th registered poker player there LOL

**PaperTrail07** · 12-18-12, 09:54 PM

talk about a hustle and coming a long long long way lol

**KGambler** · 12-18-12, 09:55 PM

SBR won't talk about the owners and what other books they are involved with. Remember, SBR "confirmed" that the owners were well known within the industry and were experienced bookmakers. SBR said that BI would have never been upgraded so quickly if they had not confirmed that the ownership was financially secure.

Now they won't tell us what other books these owners are/were involved with, let alone who they are.

**KGambler** · 12-18-12, 09:57 PM

We do have a press release from the Queens D.A. showing a collection of NYC mooks and goombas, with the occasional jabroni mixed in. They mention some of them were involved with an online sportsbook named Jazz.

**wrongturn** · 12-18-12, 09:59 PM

I praised the book so I feel awful right now about my balance but I guess I kind of deserve it. Although I did have great CS and fast payouts, the strange sign started was not because I could not get a quick payout, but they were not able to credit my account until 4 days after my p2p deposit! Now think of it, probably it was sign that they were in a mess.

**Milk Money** · 12-18-12, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by KGambler

SBR won't talk about the owners and what other books they are involved with. Remember, SBR "confirmed" that the owners were well known within the industry and were experienced bookmakers. SBR said that BI would have never been upgraded so quickly if they had not confirmed that the ownership was financially secure.

Now they won't tell us what other books these owners are/were involved with, let alone who they are.

How do we know SBR didn't steal the money? Ala beted covers?

**PaperTrail07** · 12-18-12, 10:02 PM

you were all robbed....there are pictures of the man that did it....and nothing will happen unless one of you go "taken" style and track his ass down....simple as that..hire a personal investigator and track him down

**PaperTrail07** · 12-18-12, 10:03 PM

nobody can do anything and the $ is NOT EVER coming back....i mean ITS GONE

**studmlb55** · 12-18-12, 10:04 PM

Originally posted by Milk Money

How do we know SBR didn't steal the money? Ala beted covers?

Someone stole the money, now the question is who all got a piece of the pie?

**Frogger** · 12-18-12, 10:06 PM

My guess is SBR is the only true entity that ended up with any money. Also Ryan Rossi will continue to bring in deposits from people who never heard of SBR. Can't see any other winners here.

**PaperTrail07** · 12-18-12, 10:07 PM

guys jon is working a 9-5 at low wages with nothing on his mind but paying you back....he is up right now because he is losing sleep over it......like darkhat and smoke said...he is good people....the fuckkn wager chief.....chiefn fat blunts of hash n dro more like raining 1s at an offshore strip club

**Scooter** · 12-18-12, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by tarheelfan72

Probably so but if a business is printing money you don't run off with the bank account either. Doesn't make sense. Especially in light of the fact that everyone was always paid until last week.

tarheelfan72 - Time to quit while you're behind.

You're making more posts than anyone in this thread, and they're all trying to justify what occurred.

You're either a gullible fool, or you have a balance there and are hoping that by trying to smooth things over and ignore the facts will help a "bailout".
Wrong.

**PaperTrail07** · 12-18-12, 10:11 PM

=JON

= THE HUSTLED

**PaperTrail07** · 12-18-12, 10:12 PM

Scooter....they wernt down.....they left at a high point with everyones cash.....retard