An apology to all Betislands players

**cmaulsby** · 12-19-12, 09:42 AM

Simple solution "Jon", inform the community of the "backers" and direct contact information we will praise you to the ends of the earth. So give us names and contact info buddy.

**woodsy5822** · 12-19-12, 09:42 AM

and again I am hoping this post will cause the larger books that turned me down once to try and help the players out.

you are not doing this for the players.. you are doing that for yourself to try to save your reputation.. you could give a f uck less about the players.. you have showed the players what you think of them

**cloverfield** · 12-19-12, 09:43 AM

Jon Jon Jon Jon,

If the backer pulled out 5-6 weeks ago.. why did you post on December 7th that people were paranoid and being ridiculous?
You said everything was fine and you never miss a payout. You said you had "reason to believe people would be paid"... How can you have reason to believe people will be paid on December 7th if the guy with the money was gone....

According to your earlier posts you even said you stopped working at BI weeks ago.. so on December 7th why did you post as if you were still there?????????????????? You never said a word in that post that you were gone...or that the financial backer had left..........

Jon Jon Jon Jon

You always post "sorry.. I understand people want to blame me".. but you never answer the real questions.. Nothing you have said adds up.

**woodsy5822** · 12-19-12, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by cloverfield

Jon Jon Jon Jon,

If the backer pulled out 5-6 weeks ago.. why did you post on December 7th that people were paranoid and being ridiculous?
You said everything was fine and you never miss a payout. You said you had "reason to believe people would be paid"... How can you have reason to believe people will be paid on December 7th if the guy with the money was gone....

According to your earlier posts you even said you stopped working at BI weeks ago.. so on December 7th why did you post as if you were still there??????????????????

Jon Jon Jon Jon

You always post "sorry.. I understand people want to blame me".. but you never answer the real questions.. Nothing you have said adds up.

exactly.. he never does answer the real questions... no penetrate ing balls... whats taking you so long to respond jon? you dont have a job so answer these questions if you care so much about what you did to the players.

**Betislands** · 12-19-12, 09:48 AM

What circles?

Thats the truth , BI financial backing withdraw himself out of the picture overnight after encountering legal issues. This is not a made up fact people in the know and in the industry know this.

I proceeded to try and find a bailout plan for BI clients speaking every to single MAYOR book and they all turned me down.

The reason I am posting here is because I was in charge at BI , and owed this much to you guys after being a member of the forum for years.

If the financial aid is no longer the business was going to suffer , for 2 years things were good with BI and after this happened they were not . I did not choose for this to happen or planned it out.

It is not like we upped and left after 2 months we paid out and we did things right , once the financial help was gone the company was not able to do that any longer. I then went out and spoke to to half of costa rica to try and find a home for you guys.

I understand every single one of my actions will be taken the wrong way and I will be attacked but I am posting because it is the right thing to do and again things I posted are facts in the industry.

**woodsy5822** · 12-19-12, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by Betislands

What circles?

Thats the truth , BI financial backing withdraw himself out of the picture overnight after encountering legal issues. This is not a made up fact people in the know and in the industry know this.

I proceeded to try and find a bailout plan for BI clients speaking every to single MAYOR book and they all turned me down.

The reason I am posting here is because I was the man in charge at BI , and owed this much to you guys after being a member of the forum for years.

I understand every single one of my actions will be taken the wrong way and I will be attacked but I am posting because it is the right thing to do and again things I posted are facts in the industry.

These circles.. there is not one thing you answered in this.. who was the backer??? JOn tell the people that.. The anger will go towards the backers if you tell them this. If you are telling people the truth about the backers.. just tell them who it is and you will get a pass from most people

**PAULYPOKER** · 12-19-12, 09:52 AM

If you had a business that you were trying to save, would you tell your customers the ship is sinking?

If you were counting on backing that backed you before to back you again,would you pursue all avenues of backing before you jumped ship?

**cloverfield** · 12-19-12, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by Betislands

What circles?

Thats the truth , BI financial backing withdraw himself out of the picture overnight after encountering legal issues. This is not a made up fact people in the know and in the industry know this.

I proceeded to try and find a bailout plan for BI clients speaking every to single MAYOR book and they all turned me down.

The reason I am posting here is because I was in charge at BI , and owed this much to you guys after being a member of the forum for years.

If the financial aid is no longer there what else could have been done?

I understand every single one of my actions will be taken the wrong way and I will be attacked but I am posting because it is the right thing to do and again things I posted are facts in the industry.

You had been gone for "weeks"..
during the "weeks" that you were supposedly gone you posted as BetIslands saying that you lost the check processor..

WHAT A COINCIDENCE.. YOU LOST THE "CHECK" PROCESSOR AT THE SAME TIME THE FINANCIAL BACKER LEFT... YET YOU STILL SAID EVERYONE WOULD BE PAID..

DON'T TELL ME YOU ARE GOING TO SAY THAT THE CHECK PROCESSOR AND THE FINANCIAL BACKER LEFT THE SAME EXACT DAMN DAY.

While the "check" processor was gone.. people still couldn't get paid with P2P... How does the "check" processor affect P2P??? You said P2P was overloaded....

Jon Jon Jon Jon

I have no reason to be mad at you Jon because I didn't lose any money.. YOU POST THINGS THAT MAKE NO DAMN SENSE

**339955** · 12-19-12, 09:54 AM

I dont understand why it matters if the financial backers pulled out? Shouldn't the player's funds always be kept in a separate fund on hand to pay people?

**Easy-Rider 66** · 12-19-12, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by woodsy5822

These circles.. there is not one thing you answered in this.. who was the backer??? JOn tell the people that.. The anger will go towards the backers if you tell them this. the backerIf you are telling people the truth about s.. just tell them who it is and you will get a pass from most people

Really doubt he is going to rat out the Money People. That would not be a wise move.

**woodsy5822** · 12-19-12, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66

Really doubt he is going to rat out the Money People. That would not be a wise move.

why ??? they supposedly screwed him over.. so why cover for them???

**Easy-Rider 66** · 12-19-12, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by woodsy5822

why ??? they supposedly screwed him over.. so why cover for them???

They may not be good peoples.

**GigaOuts** · 12-19-12, 10:00 AM

Very sad news especially close to Christmas. This is bad as Full Tilt stealing from player balance, than stall all large cash out and confiscate/stole so much $$$ from unexpected players. Good thing Star is there to bail us poker player out..

Maybe Jon should contact Pokerstars, they might be interested in sport bet business. If Stars willing to spend $500 million plus to bail poker players out, maybe they willing to spend 2 millions to buy BetIsland.

**woodsy5822** · 12-19-12, 10:00 AM

can you atleast do us one favor jon.. post pics of Ashley? you sounded like a piece of a ss?

**Betislands** · 12-19-12, 10:01 AM

I have come on here to post and shed light on what happened and apologize to players now people can continue to threaten my life or insult me and why not pin point it to the guy that posted for BI . I was not the backer of Betislands nor the financial decision maker. Nor am I going to post banking details and processor details on an open forum.

This is the truth , even after legal issues were encountered contingency plans were in place and the company was thought to continue in a positive matters still paying clients and still trying to regain a check processor.

I went to every single sportsbook trying to find a home for players when our plans started to fail only to be turned down. These are not lies and facts that can be verified by people in the industry.

I share your frustration and I truly hope a bailout for players can occur from a larger shop.

JON

**woodsy5822** · 12-19-12, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66

They may not be good peoples.

i hear ya..i dont know just a f 'd up situation..if he is really the fall guy casue he cant talk that sucks.. the one thing he is right about is there needs to be a fall guy and he will be the fall guy becasue he talked like he owned the place.. and he made all the decisions(so he made it seem) when things were good.. i hope these guys get their money. i feel for them

**PAULYPOKER** · 12-19-12, 10:06 AM

Believe it or not, all businesses end this way when the financial backers risk is not worth the risk involved.............

How they got this way is what you should be asking............

Did the players bust you?
this would be a 1st

Did your lavish drug addicted alcohol fueled whore buying money burning lifestyle"s" cause this collapse?
this is the cause 99% of time

**woodsy5822** · 12-19-12, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by Betislands

I have come on here to post and shed light on what happened and apologize to players now people can continue to threaten my life or insult me and why not pin point it to the guy that posted for BI . I was not the backer of Betislands nor the financial decision maker. Nor am I going to post banking details and processor details on an open forum.

This is the truth , even after legal issues were encountered contingency plans were in place and the company was thought to continue in a positive matters still paying clients and still trying to regain a check processor.

I went to every single sportsbook trying to find a home for players when our plans started to fail only to be turned down. These are not lies and facts that can be verified by people in the industry.

I share your frustration and I truly hope a bailout for players can occur from a larger shop.

JON

well ateast you answered that you werent going to name names.. so whats in store for the people with money in BI ? is there any chance Ryan has connections to make this work?? or is it simply just another stall tactic before they get out of dodge?

**lecubs28** · 12-19-12, 10:14 AM

jon it's frustrating to see you acting like you're completely innocent here when there was so much misinformation spread that eventually lead to this situation. your hands are not clean

**sharlataans** · 12-19-12, 10:21 AM

It's not about $1.5 million. Its AT LEAST ten times more I am sure

**Dark Horse** · 12-19-12, 10:23 AM

Jon, take out a big loan, pay everybody their money, and spend the next years trying to earn it back. Otherwise you're just a thief. If you want to talk about doing the right thing, do the right thing.

**Dark Horse** · 12-19-12, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by sharlataans

It's not about $1.5 million. Its AT LEAST ten times more I am sure

No, it's seven figures. I just talked to one of the books that went over the numbers and decided to pass.

**Trident** · 12-19-12, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by Betislands

The last few days even after I had stepped down and left I continued to try and find a solution for players with larger sportsbooks and NOBODY wanted to help.

Why would any Book want to help cleanup the mess you created and the backer walked away from?

The simple fix to this mess is for the owner do dig into those deep pockets they all seem to have and pay the players back.

**Dark Horse** · 12-19-12, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by Betislands

I went to every single sportsbook trying to find a home for players when our plans started to fail only to be turned down. These are not lies and facts that can be verified by people in the industry.

I share your frustration and I truly hope a bailout for players can occur from a larger shop.

JON

How is that going to happen when you already contacted every single one of them? Why does a book have to bail you out? You, personally, are on the line for this one. It's bookmaking. +108 action. How can you mess that up?

**PAULYPOKER** · 12-19-12, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by Dark Horse

How is that going to happen when you already contacted every single one of them? Why does a book have to bail you out? You, personally, are on the line for this one. It's bookmaking. +108 action. How can you mess that up?

How they got this way is what you should be asking............

Did the players bust you?
this would be a 1st

Did your lavish drug addicted alcohol fueled whore buying money burning lifestyle"s" cause this collapse?
this is the cause 99% of time

**SamDiamond** · 12-19-12, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by Betislands

I have come on here to post and shed light on what happened and apologize to players now people can continue to threaten my life or insult me and why not pin point it to the guy that posted for BI . I was not the backer of Betislands nor the financial decision maker. Nor am I going to post banking details and processor details on an open forum.

This is the truth , even after legal issues were encountered contingency plans were in place and the company was thought to continue in a positive matters still paying clients and still trying to regain a check processor.

I went to every single sportsbook trying to find a home for players when our plans started to fail only to be turned down. These are not lies and facts that can be verified by people in the industry.

I share your frustration and I truly hope a bailout for players can occur from a larger shop.

JON

Why the fuk is SBR allowing you to continue to yap?

Do you realize what you've done? Not only have you stolen money, but by continuing to post in this community you are ruining any semblence of respect people have for SBR.

You are not "shedding any light".

You are trying to protect your ass.

Do you understand the difference?

No matter how many of these posts you make, you'll still a liar and a thief.

If you're going to continue to post, can you get Lou to give you a "THIEF" or "SCAMMER" badge?

**5mike5** · 12-19-12, 10:36 AM

funny how he has been caught in lie after lie and never anwsers the detailed questions....hurricane sandy..lol.. that was a rich one right there, and rather pathetic

what a scum bag

the nerve of this crook...his pockets along with SBR's are still lined nice and FAT with all the money they stole from u guys

those guys arent hurting thats 1 fact in this whole mess thats not in question

**Dark Horse** · 12-19-12, 10:37 AM

I've had it with people stealing money and thinking they can get away with this. Yes Jon, for owing people seven figures and thinking you can wash your hands and walk away with an apology your life does indeed deserve to be threatened, in this business. Their is no legal course of action. This is mobster rule. You must have seen this coming a long time ago and kept up your 'cheers!' all the way.

**wrongturn** · 12-19-12, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by Betislands

I have come on here to post and shed light on what happened and apologize to players now people can continue to threaten my life or insult me and why not pin point it to the guy that posted for BI . I was not the backer of Betislands nor the financial decision maker. Nor am I going to post banking details and processor details on an open forum.

This is the truth , even after legal issues were encountered contingency plans were in place and the company was thought to continue in a positive matters still paying clients and still trying to regain a check processor.

I went to every single sportsbook trying to find a home for players when our plans started to fail only to be turned down. These are not lies and facts that can be verified by people in the industry.

I share your frustration and I truly hope a bailout for players can occur from a larger shop.

JON

Jon, I am not going to insult you for coming here to apologize and continuing sharing some info. But if the problem is the backers' legal issues, supposedly not "money" issues, then why there is 7 figure gap that deters bigger book to take over? How could that happen? Did the backers take away all the deposit money or it is simply the loss from bets? You can share this, right?

**woodsy5822** · 12-19-12, 10:43 AM

i tihnk that could be it at BI boys.. i think they are pulling the midnight move .. i was live chatting with ryan asking him some questions.. the chat session suddenly ended and now it sends you right to email. chat isnt available

**5mike5** · 12-19-12, 10:48 AM

no point in contacting some mororn on chat anyways

**woodsy5822** · 12-19-12, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by 5mike5

it has been "it"

no point incontacting some mororn on chat anyways

well its official now site is down its all over

**Dark Horse** · 12-19-12, 10:59 AM

They just pulled the plug. Hope everybody got their screenshots with balances. This is far from over.

**KEdge2k** · 12-19-12, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by Dark Horse

I've had it with people stealing money and thinking they can get away with this. Yes Jon, for owing people seven figures and thinking you can wash your hands and walk away with an apology your life does indeed deserve to be threatened, in this business. Their is no legal course of action. This is mobster rule. You must have seen this coming a long time ago and kept up your 'cheers!' all the way.

I have to imagine there were some sharper players with very high balances that are now out of their funds who are not going to be looking for.... "legal recourse", let's say. These tend to be the types of guys who will be willing to invest five figures to chase down six figures. If I were "Jon", I'd be very paranoid right about now.

**sharlataans** · 12-19-12, 11:13 AM

http://news.rouletters.com/sports-betting-the-slow-death-of-sportsbook-review-000903.html

http://news.rouletters.com/sportsbook-betislands-ag-taking-on-water-000883.html