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  • Hareeba!
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    Originally posted by Optional

    Thanks for your analysis of Australian media, ya brainwashed know it all enemy of the people.

    Trump is a childish insecure pansy boy Dwight.

    And yes Eff that POS jerk. I hope he ends up completely destroying the alliance with Australia, UK and Canada and we can all move on to create a new world order without any use for untrustworthy, lying scumbags like your cult leader.

    How can you not be ashamed for your country over of his behavior
    Not necessarily true of all Australia's ABC reporters but their TV shows most certainly appear to favour inviting guests from the opposition and past members of the previous Liberal government than Labor representatives.

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  • Optional
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    Originally posted by DwightShrute

    see that is the problem. A new world order? JFC. Where the WHO gets to decide what vaccines you must inject in order to take part in society? No thanks. Some fukking unelected asshole in some foreign land making decisions for you? Fukk off.

    These countries are destroying themselves right in front of your own eyes and you refuse to admit it.

    The UK is almost at the point of no return. They have cops arresting 30 people a day from voicing their opinions online. Not threatening people or inciting people. I posted the video of a buy who was arrested for saying "I love bacon" FFS! Try and put up a King George's flag anywhere in the UK nowadays. The government will remove it, but go ahead a proudly display a Palestine flag. The country is being over run by illegal immigrants. Sound familiar? The country can't sustain that many people. Never mind the amount of people who will never assimilate to western culture. Once a great country, but now is turning into a shit hole. That/s not me saying it, those are Brits saying it. Imagine going to a country, any country, and denouncing the country you are in while waving the country's flag you escaped from. It's lunacy.

    In Canada, you can be fined and go to jail if your purposely misgender someone. You can have your bank account frozen if you disagree with the government. They too are allowing in way more immigrants than the country can handle. They don't share the same value as Canadians. I spoke to a friend last night actually, he was in a government liquor store and while he was at the cashier paying, an immigrant walked out with 2 jumbo vodka bottles and the security guard just sat there and watched. They are not allowed to stop them. Its racist I guess. Yesterday he took the subway and there was a guy peeling eggs and just throwing the shells on the floor. He said "they have people who get paid to clean it up". I would never do any of those things no matter where I was. That's only a couple examples. There are dozens more. People are sick of it. Did Canada not learn from what was happening in the US? Apparently not. They elected another Liberal government a few months ago, which is evidence not enough people have had enough of the tyranny.

    Now, it seems like Australia is determined to go down the same path judging by the last election. They looked at the US under Biden/Kamala, Canada, the UK, Sweden, France, Germany and said "ya hold my beer?" They regret it now. Just not enough of them. Too many weak woke politician hellbent on destroying their country. I Hope Australia doesn't go down the same path.

    The US is leading the way back to decency in their country. You might hate Trump and his administration for adhering to the rule of law but he doesn't care what the radical Left thinks. The country loves what he is doing. America said enough of the insanity and voted for a guy who puts his people first. Ya, he's harsh at times but so what? I rather have that kind of president that some brain dead moron who flood his own country with millions of illegals, weaponized the justice system against his political opponent, sleeps all day and hides.

    America is back with strong leadership and a competent cabinet. They refuse to keep doing the same things over and over expecting different results. Some of you seem to believe politicians are smart people. While some are of course, many are not. Too many. You wouldn't hire them to run your business, but you think they are fine to run an entire country.

    Back to the reporter. He was trying for a gotcha soundbite. That's all. Trump gets that all the time. It must be so frustration for Trump to have to deal with imbeciles. I can't blame him for being short tempered and lashing out. More politicians should be like that.
    You genuinely understand nothing about Australian media. Especially what the ABC is here.

    4 Corners is kind of like a 60 minutes program. They are serious investigative journalists and don't do gotcha moments for clout or views.

    They are obviously doing a piece on Trump's business practices in office and as responsible reporters have to put it him.

    I think you will see that clip used in the program.

    I hope Albanese doesn't kow tow in any way when they do meet.

    I also hope Canada, UK and ourselves come together to lead the Western world with some sort of honor again. America is a bad bad example of honorable world leadership right now.

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  • DwightShrute
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    Originally posted by Optional

    Thanks for your analysis of Australian media, ya brainwashed know it all enemy of the people.

    Trump is a childish insecure pansy boy Dwight.

    And yes Eff that POS jerk. I hope he ends up completely destroying the alliance with Australia, UK and Canada and we can all move on to create a new world order without any use for untrustworthy, lying scumbags like your cult leader.

    How can you not be ashamed for your country over of his behavior
    see that is the problem. A new world order? JFC. Why would anyone want a new world order? Where the WHO gets to decide what vaccines you must inject in order to take part in society? No thanks. Some fukking unelected asshole in some foreign land making decisions for you? Fukk off.

    These countries are destroying themselves right in front of your own eyes and you refuse to admit it.

    The UK is almost at the point of no return. They have cops arresting 30 people a day from voicing their opinions online. Not threatening people or inciting people. I posted the video of a guy who was arrested for saying "I love bacon" FFS! Try and put up a King George's flag anywhere in the UK nowadays. The government will remove it. But go ahead a proudly display a Palestine flag. The country is being over run by illegal immigrants. Sound familiar? The country can't sustain that many people that quickly. Never mind the amount of people who will never assimilate to western culture. Once a great country, but now is turning into a shit hole. That's not me saying it, those are Brits saying it. Imagine going to a country, any country, and denouncing that country while waving the country's flag you escaped from. It's lunacy.

    In Canada, you can be fined and go to jail if your purposely misgender someone. You can have your bank account frozen if you disagree with the government. They too are allowing in way more immigrants than the country can handle. They don't share the same value as Canadians. I spoke to a friend last night actually, he was in a government liquor store in Toronto, and while he was at the cashier paying, an immigrant walked out with 2 jumbo vodka bottles and the security guard just sat there and watched. Where does he think he was? California? London? They are not allowed to stop them. Its racist I guess. Yesterday he took the subway and there was a guy peeling eggs and just throwing the shells on the floor. He said "they have people who get paid to clean it up". I would never do any of those things no matter where I was. That's only a couple examples. There are dozens more. People are sick of it. Did Canada not learn from what was happening in the US and Europe? Apparently not. They elected another Liberal government a few months ago, which is evidence not enough people have had enough of the tyranny and the incompetence.

    Now, it seems like Australia is determined to go down the same path judging by the last election. They looked at the US under Biden/Kamala, Canada, the UK, Sweden, France, Germany and said "ya hold my beer?" They regret it now. Just not enough of them. Too many weak woke politician hellbent on destroying their country. I Hope Australia doesn't go down the same path.

    The US is leading the way back to decency in their country. Just in time. If Trump lost, you might be on your way to that new world order you desire. Thankfully there were enough decent people who voted. You might hate Trump and his administration for adhering to the rule of law but he doesn't care what the radical Left thinks. The country loves what he is doing. America said enough of the insanity and voted for a guy who puts his people first and works his ass off. Ya, he's harsh at times but so what? I rather have that kind of president than some brain dead moron who flooded his own country with millions of illegals, weaponized the justice system against his political opponent, sleeps all day and hides from the press.

    America is back Baby! With strong leadership and a competent cabinet. No more doing the same things over and over expecting different results. Some of you seem to believe politicians are smart people. While some are of course, many are not. Too many are absolute moron. America elected on in 2020 and almost elected another in 2024. You wouldn't hire them to run your business or baby sit your children, but you think they are fine to run an entire country? LOL. Washington is a swamp. Trump was right. He's doing all he can to drain it. He's showing the world what a strong leader is.

    Back to the reporter. He was trying for a gotcha soundbite. Certainly not the first reporter to do so. Trump gets that all the time. It must be so frustrating for Trump to have to deal with some of these dopes. They aren't serious people. I can't blame him for being short tempered and lashing out. More politicians should be like Trump.

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  • Optional
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    Originally posted by DwightShrute

    yes he is a puss, Australia doesn't need him, and ya Ef him too!

    ABC news Australia are no different than the American ABC version. Both are infested with an overwhelming number of Left wing employees masquerading as unbiased "reporters". We all know they are biased. Something like 90% of ABC News Australia employees vote Labour Party.

    Trump doesn't have time for cucks.

    Thanks for your analysis of Australian media, ya brainwashed know it all enemy of the people.

    Trump is a childish insecure pansy boy Dwight.

    And yes Eff that POS jerk. I hope he ends up completely destroying the alliance with Australia, UK and Canada and we can all move on to create a new world order without any use for untrustworthy, lying scumbags like your cult leader.

    How can you not be ashamed for your country over of his behavior

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  • DwightShrute
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    Patel killed Pencil Neck

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  • Hareeba!
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    Blanche is gonna to take a RICO indictment to a grand jury against a bunch of random people who JUST HAPPENED to be in a restaurant that Trumpelthinskin walks into?

    Seriously?

    The judge will laugh that one out of the courtroom and slap him with a frivolous prosecution penalty.

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  • DwightShrute
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    Originally posted by Optional
    What a puss.

    Ef this guy! Australia doesn't need this man childs approval.



    yes he is a puss, Australia doesn't need him, and ya Ef him too!

    ABC news Australia are no different than the American ABC version. Both are infested with an overwhelming number of Left wing employees masquerading as unbiased "reporters". We all know they are biased. Something like 90% of ABC News Australia employees vote Labour Party.

    Trump doesn't have time for cucks.

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  • DwightShrute
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    Pam Bondi Wants To Prosecute Hate Speech!? F*CK THAT!

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  • DwightShrute
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    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

    How do we know it’s not closer to 2%. I’ve seen that number thrown around several places. I certainly don’t know. It seems to depend on what characteristics of intersex you look for. It’s not something I studied and I’ve never worked in a children’s hospital. Either way, at any %, thats a lot of people and makes sense why it should be talked about more. People like Dwight don’t realize there’s people like that. He only sees male/female..

    How do you know some of the ones assigned at birth haven’t had issues? That would seem to be at least confusing to me.
    you are either making shit up to suit whatever point you are attempting to make or you have an extremely short memory. We spoke about this already. You must know this. It's nowhere near 2% you can look around for yourself if you don't want to research it.




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  • Optional
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    What a puss.

    Ef this guy! Australia doesn't need this man childs approval.




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  • Hareeba!
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    Rep. Ro Khanna just dropped a bombshell:

    DEMOCRATS NOW HAVE THE VOTES TO FORCE A VOTE ON THE EPSTEIN LIST.

    On September 23, the discharge petition will be entered in the record. 7 days later, a vote for the files.

    Two recent developments made this possible.


    TWO new Democrats are joining the caucus.

    James Walkinshaw just replaced Gerry Connolly after the special election in Virginia’s 11th.
    Adelita Grijalva is poised to win her late father’s AZ-07 seat on Sept 23.

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  • DwightShrute
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    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

    Dwight - I’ve had this conversation with you years ago. What you posted and make fun of may seem cut and dry to you BUT it’s not so simple. Do you know there are people, a lot of people that are intersex? This has been swept under the rug for decades. Some people do not have XX or XY chromosomes. Many have more than one genitalia. We’re talking ~2% of the population, as much as redheads. Some are confused because they don’t fit traditional boxes. So maybe you should use logic and reasoning on this subject.


    https://www.minus18.org.au/articles/i'm-intersex:-here's-what-that-means/?srsltid=AfmBOopzEuP2sfTlUdPfpUsQ2roqPoR tHhUTfBx4uPPT9FJBnTTKaN82
    we discussed this a few weeks ago and I used logic and reasoning back then. Men and women are different. Men pretending to be women aren't women. That 2% number is bullshit,

    According to Grok ...

    The claim that 1.7% of the population is intersex is widely debated and often overstated statistic based on a broad, inclusive definition of intersex conditions that has been heavily criticized by medical experts for inflating the figure and diluting the term's clinical meaning. The true prevalence, when using more precise medical criteria focused on ambiguous or inconsistent sex characteristics, is much lower—around 0.018% (or about 1 in 5,500 births). Below, I'll break this down step by step, drawing on the origins of the 1.7% figure, the criticisms, and alternative estimates from reliable sources across medical, advocacy, and academic perspectives.Origins of the 1.7% FigureThe 1.7% estimate comes primarily from a 2000 study led by biologist Anne Fausto-Sterling (published in the American Journal of Human Biology as "How Sexually Dimorphic Are We?"). This research reviewed medical literature from 1955 to 1998 to estimate the frequency of "nondimorphic sexual development," which the authors defined broadly as any birth that does not conform to a strict binary ideal of male or female across chromosomes, gonads, genitals, and hormones.
    • What it includes: The figure aggregates a wide range of conditions, such as:
      • Late-onset congenital adrenal hyperplasia (LOCAH), which accounts for about 1.5 percentage points (88% of the total). This is often asymptomatic and doesn't typically cause visible ambiguity; it may only affect fertility or hormone levels later in life.
      • Chromosomal variations like Klinefelter syndrome (47,XXY; ~1 in 1,000 births), Turner syndrome (45,X; ~1 in 2,000 births), and others (e.g., 47,XYY or 47,XXX), which may involve infertility or subtle traits but often result in a clear male or female phenotype.
      • Other traits like vaginal agenesis (~1 in 6,000 births) or idiopathic genital variations.
    • Why this broad definition? Fausto-Sterling's work was part of a feminist and social critique of rigid gender binaries, arguing that human sex exists on a spectrum. She aimed to highlight natural variations to challenge the idea of absolute dimorphism. Advocacy groups like InterACT (successor to the Intersex Society of North America) and Intersex Human Rights Australia continue to cite 1.7% (or up to 2%) because it "encapsulates the entire population of people who are stigmatized—or risk stigmatization—due to innate sex characteristics," even if some included conditions aren't clinically ambiguous.
    This estimate has been popularized by organizations like the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), Amnesty International, and the Human Rights Campaign (HRC), which compare it to the prevalence of red hair (1-2%) to emphasize that intersex traits are common and deserve recognition and protection from issues like non-consensual surgeries.Criticisms: Why It's Considered Overstated or MisleadingThe 1.7% figure has faced significant pushback from clinicians, geneticists, and researchers who argue it misrepresents intersex prevalence by including conditions that don't involve true sexual ambiguity (i.e., where genitalia, chromosomes, or phenotype can't be clearly classified as male or female). Critics say this broadens the term "intersex" to the point of meaninglessness, potentially stigmatizing people with common disorders while exaggerating the rate of clinically relevant cases.
    • Leonard Sax's 2002 Response (Journal of Sex Research): In a direct rebuttal to Fausto-Sterling, psychologist and physician Leonard Sax redefined intersex more narrowly: conditions where chromosomal sex is inconsistent with phenotypic sex, or the phenotype isn't classifiable as male or female. Excluding LOCAH, Klinefelter, Turner, and similar traits (which Sax argues aren't "intersex" clinically, as they don't cause ambiguity at birth or require sex reassignment), the prevalence drops to ~0.018%. This is nearly 100 times lower than 1.7%. Sax notes that Fausto-Sterling's inclusion of LOCAH alone inflates the number dramatically, as it's not considered an intersex condition by most endocrinologists.
    • Clinical Consensus: Medical bodies like the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Endocrine Society focus on "disorders/differences of sex development" (DSDs) with ambiguous genitalia, estimating 1 in 4,500 to 1 in 2,000 births (0.02-0.05%). For example:
      • Ambiguous genitalia specifically: 0.02-0.05%.
      • Broader DSDs (including chromosomal but excluding non-ambiguous cases): ~0.05-0.37% (per a 2003 analysis by Carrie Hull correcting Fausto-Sterling's data).
      • A 2021-2022 Mexican national survey (n=6,582) found ~1.6% self-reporting sex variations, but this was in an LGBT+ sample and relied on self-identification, not clinical diagnosis, leading to potential overestimation.
    • Other Critiques:
      • Philosopher Kathleen Stock (2023) called Fausto-Sterling's criteria "preposterously over-demanding," noting it could label someone like herself (who lost an ovary due to illness) as intersex, which absurdly expands the category beyond biology.
      • A 2018 systematic review in SAGE Open highlighted variable nomenclature (e.g., DSD vs. intersex) leading to inconsistent estimates, with some studies including polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS) hyperandrogenism, further broadening the net.
      • In a 2022 NCBI report on measuring intersex populations, a U.S. survey (n=1,528, weighted for diversity) found 4.9% self-reported diagnosis, but authors cautioned this was likely inflated due to overrepresentation of LGBT+ respondents and no verification—far higher than clinical data.
      • Even Fausto-Sterling has acknowledged limitations: In a 2003 response to critics, she said she wasn't "invested in a particular final estimate," and a later analysis with colleagues revised it down to ~0.37% after correcting errors.
    Advocacy sources (e.g., Intersex Campaign for Equality) defend the 1.7% as the "most thorough" for capturing all variations, but even they note it's an upper bound and that narrower stats (e.g., 0.05% for ambiguous cases) are often misinterpreted to downplay intersex rights.Balanced Perspective: Why the Debate Matters
    • Stakeholder Views:
      • Medical/Scientific Side: Emphasizes precision to avoid pathologizing common conditions (e.g., Klinefelter affects ~1 in 500-1,000 males but is managed as a fertility issue, not intersex). Lower estimates (0.018-0.05%) focus on cases needing intervention, like surgeries, which occur in ~0.02% of births.
      • Advocacy/Human Rights Side: Prefers broader figures to highlight stigma, discrimination, and the need for protections (e.g., against infant surgeries, which can cause infertility or trauma). UN and Amnesty sources use 1.7% to argue intersex people (~136 million globally) face systemic abuses, comparable to other minorities.
      • Social Science Side: Fausto-Sterling's work critiques binary norms, but critics like Sax argue it blurs biology with ideology, potentially undermining sex-based rights (e.g., in sports or prisons).
    • Challenges in Measurement: No global registry exists due to stigma, underdiagnosis (some traits appear at puberty), and varying definitions. A 2020 U.S. study (n=1,040 intersex adults) found good physical health overall but higher mental health issues, underscoring the need for better data regardless of exact prevalence.
    In summary, while the 1.7% isn't fabricated—it's a legitimate (if expansive) academic estimate—it's not the consensus figure for intersex prevalence and has been substantively critiqued for methodological reasons. For clinical or policy purposes, 0.018-0.05% better reflects cases of true ambiguity. If you're referring to a specific context (e.g., advocacy vs. medicine), the "lie" perception often stems from how it's deployed in debates over sex binaries, where broader definitions serve ideological goals but clash with empirical precision. For deeper reading, I recommend Sax's 2002 paper or Fausto-Sterling's Sexing the Body (2000).









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  • Hareeba!
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    We have a big update on our case challenging the Trump-Vance administration agreement that allowed for the disappearance of people to El Salvador:
    We’ve secured the release of a previously secret grant agreement between the Trump-Vance administration and El Salvador to disappear people from U.S. territory to the Centro de Confinamiento del Terrorismo – a facility infamous for torture, starvation, and indefinite isolated detention.
    This newly released document, part of our ongoing lawsuit, shows that the administration is not just ignoring due process, it also did nothing to protect people from torture, indefinite confinement, or other abuses. The agreement did, however, go to lengths to ensure that the funds the U.S. provided to El Salvador not be used to provide reproductive health care or to assist asylum seekers in accessing resources and counsel.
    The public disclosure of this document and its terms marks a significant victory in our ongoing lawsuit and shows that – yet again – litigation is playing a critical role in securing some measure of transparency from the U.S. government. After the Trump-Vance administration insisted that the terms of its arrangement with El Salvador to facilitate the disappearance of people from U.S. territory be kept secret and out of public view, our team secured the release of this information so the American people can know what their government has done.
    Our goal was to uncover anything we could about this secret agreement, and we did just that. This is part of our ongoing work to hold the Trump-Vance administration accountable, and we’re not stopping any time soon.
    • Democracy Forward

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  • Hareeba!
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    so much race hatred in America

    stop denying it

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  • Optional
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    Originally posted by 19th Hole
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    Charlie Kirk’s organization Turning Point USA says it has 37,000 new applications to start chapters in schools
    across the U.S.

    During a tribute episode of “The Charlie Kirk Show,” with Vice President JD Vance, Kirk’s executive producer
    says Kirk dreamed of having chapters in every high school in the country.
    This could be a very good thing to come out of the tragedy, if it really is a continuation of his vision.

    Charlie got people with opposing views to come out and listen to him, unlike almost any other political booster.

    If kids are truly encouraged to listen to and argue their opinions with opposing viewers it really could be the start of bringing the people back together again.

    Just don't let it be a partisan echo chamber where only one side of the political spectrum attends and listens to each other.

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  • 19th Hole
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    NBC News


    Charlie Kirk’s organization Turning Point USA says it has 37,000 new applications to start chapters in schools
    across the U.S.

    During a tribute episode of “The Charlie Kirk Show,” with Vice President JD Vance, Kirk’s executive producer
    says Kirk dreamed of having chapters in every high school in the country.

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  • Optional
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    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

    I personally do not know anyone intersex but then when I think about it, maybe I did/do and just ignored them or they kept it to themselves. I do have empathy for any family or person dealing with the issue. This country is not very tolerant. It makes the debate about males in women sports much more complex.
    About 30 years ago my wife's best friend's husband came out to her as being a woman trapped in a mans body and he wanted to start wearing womens clothes around the house. I could write a lot about this bloke but will cut it short to just the key takeaways I learned from it.

    He wasn't gay and there was no sexual titillation connected with the cross dressing.

    He said he had never known how to act and react as a man does and had spent his life learning how he was supposed to think and act and mimicking it. He said every interaction with other people was a high mental workload situation where he had to constantly analyze what he was supposed to do or say.

    He said when he was dressed as a woman he knew how to act instinctively and the experience of being stress free and relaxed made whatever weirdness others felt worth taking on.

    They ended up working out a solution and both he, as a woman, and their kids ended up above average successful and happy in life.

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  • Mac4Lyfe
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    Originally posted by Optional

    Obviously I can't know for sure what the numbers are.

    But I think it's a serious issue for a person to be dealing with and a tough one to find someone outside of specialist care givers to work through it with. So I am inclined to believe the documented usage figures of those services as being fairly close to the number of real life cases.

    And for mine, 2% of the population is almost a nonsensical claim. As you pointed out that's as many gingers as we have in the world.

    I want to see trans people accepted, or at the very least 'ignored' as no one else's problem but their own.

    Being MAGA style overblown hysterical about it turns middle of the road opinion holders away from that goal imho.




    I'm sure plenty prefer to avoid scrutiny and hide it as much as possible.

    But I'm also sure almost all of them go talk to a specialist about it at least once in their lives.
    I personally do not know anyone intersex but then when I think about it, maybe I did/do and just ignored them or they kept it to themselves. I do have empathy for any family or person dealing with the issue. This country is not very tolerant. It makes the debate about males in women sports much more complex.

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  • Optional
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    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

    How do we know it’s not closer to 2%. I’ve seen that number thrown around several places. I certainly don’t know. It seems to depend on what characteristics of intersex you look for. It’s not something I studied and I’ve never worked in a children’s hospital. Either way, at any %, thats a lot of people and makes sense why it should be talked about more. People like Dwight don’t realize there’s people like that. He only sees male/female..

    How do you know some of the ones assigned at birth haven’t had issues? That would seem to be at least confusing to me.
    Obviously I can't know for sure what the numbers are.

    But I think it's a serious issue for a person to be dealing with and a tough one to find someone outside of specialist care givers to work through it with. So I am inclined to believe the documented usage figures of those services as being fairly close to the number of real life cases.

    And for mine, 2% of the population is almost a nonsensical claim. As you pointed out that's as many gingers as we have in the world.

    I want to see trans people accepted, or at the very least 'ignored' as no one else's problem but their own.

    Being MAGA style overblown hysterical about it turns middle of the road opinion holders away from that goal imho.


    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
    I don’t think they are heard here in the US. I’ve never heard any news channel talk about it. It was never a topic in school. I bet if you ask 100 Americans what does intersex means, 99 wouldn’t know. What you do hear is that you are either male or female. It’s only black or white. Intersex people here would/should never admit it. This country makes fun of them.
    I'm sure plenty prefer to avoid scrutiny and hide it as much as possible.

    But I'm also sure almost all of them go talk to a specialist about it at least once in their lives.

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  • Mac4Lyfe
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    Originally posted by Optional

    Yes.

    Will making up hysterically large numbers, or claiming there is some hidden group of extras who somehow survive with zero medical intervention over their entire lives, help them be heard?
    I don’t think they are heard here in the US. I’ve never heard any news channel talk about it. It was never a topic in school. I bet if you ask 100 Americans what does intersex means, 99 wouldn’t know. What you do hear is that you are either male or female. It’s only black or white. Intersex people here would/should never admit it. This country makes fun of them.

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  • Mac4Lyfe
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    Originally posted by Optional

    Sure, most physical ambiguity issues are addressed at birth and it appears that that results in almost all of those babies not growing up considering themselves inter sex. ie: docs/parents get it right in these cases almost every time.

    So imho saying that 2% of people, or some vast hidden number greater than the less than 1/5th of one percent who seek medical help with it, is just as disingenuous as MAGA claiming they need to protect the women and children who might share a bathroom with one of these "monsters".

    No one of either side of the debate is going to be convinced by patently bias and over blown figures.

    Yet both sides loudest advocates do it constantly.
    How do we know it’s not closer to 2%. I’ve seen that number thrown around several places. I certainly don’t know. It seems to depend on what characteristics of intersex you look for. It’s not something I studied and I’ve never worked in a children’s hospital. Either way, at any %, thats a lot of people and makes sense why it should be talked about more. People like Dwight don’t realize there’s people like that. He only sees male/female..

    How do you know some of the ones assigned at birth haven’t had issues? That would seem to be at least confusing to me.

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  • Optional
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    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

    I tend to think a lot more people are intersex but are afraid, ashamed to admit it. But even if you use the 0.02%, you’re still talking about tens of thousands of people. Should they have a voice?
    Yes.

    Will making up hysterically large numbers, or claiming there is some hidden group of extras who somehow survive with zero medical intervention over their entire lives, help them be heard?

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  • Mac4Lyfe
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    Originally posted by ByeShea

    Hey, I started connecting the MAGA dots ... trail gets fuzzy with that furry.
    I really don’t care if this sicko was left leaning or right. He’s Just another crazy young male with easy access to guys.

    He seems like he was pissed with Kirk because he had a trans boy/girl friend. So you can blame the left. But for him to accurately kill Kirk from that distance, he was most likely trained from his dad who’s on the right. Not too many leftist sharpshooters. So you can blame both sides for this one.

    The one thing remains. Another mentally ill, young, white male was able to get a gun. Ban guns to understand 30.

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  • Optional
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    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

    I know a very popular Obgyn in Texas that delivered babies and she said the numbers are higher than most realize. She assigned their sex at birth and sometimes modified organs at the wish of the parents. So I believe the numbers are more than we know. I have read several journals that say close to 2%. That’s a lot of people.

    Hell, I went out with a girl that had 3 nipples. Many people have high estrogen or testosterone levels that are of the other sex. I don’t think it’s fair to blame someone for being born a certain way.
    Sure, most physical ambiguity issues are addressed at birth and it appears that that results in almost all of those babies not growing up considering themselves inter sex. ie: docs/parents get it right in these cases almost every time.

    So imho saying that 2% of people, or some vast hidden number greater than the less than 1/5th of one percent who seek medical help with it, is just as disingenuous as MAGA claiming they need to protect the women and children who might share a bathroom with one of these "monsters".

    No one of either side of the debate is going to be convinced by patently bias and over blown figures.

    Yet both sides loudest advocates do it constantly.

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  • Mac4Lyfe
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    Originally posted by Optional



    Trouble with that definition of hers is that a vanishingly small % of those people consider themselves intersex.

    In America, the home of trans hysteria, less than 0.02% consider themselves inter sex to the point of seeking medical assessment or psychological support for it.


    Do you WANT to just believe the activist who has come up with astounding numbers that don't gel with anyone's personal reality? I don't when that means 1 out of every 50 people I have ever met should be inter-sex according to her
    I tend to think a lot more people are intersex but are afraid, ashamed to admit it. But even if you use the 0.02%, you’re still talking about tens of thousands of people. Should they have a voice?

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  • Mac4Lyfe
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    Originally posted by Optional

    If you are using the Fausto-Sterling figures pro-trans advocates demand are factual, it's actually 1.7% she claims meet her specific conditions to call inter-sex.

    Trouble with that definition of hers is that a vanishingly small % of those people consider themselves intersex.

    In America, the home of trans hysteria, less than 0.02% consider themselves inter sex to the point of seeking medical assessment or psychological support for it.


    Do you WANT to just believe the activist who has come up with astounding numbers that don't gel with anyone's personal reality? I don't when that means 1 out of every 50 people I have ever met should be inter-sex according to her
    I know a very popular Obgyn in Texas that delivered babies and she said the numbers are higher than most realize. She assigned their sex at birth and sometimes modified organs at the wish of the parents. So I believe the numbers are more than we know. I have read several journals that say close to 2%. That’s a lot of people.

    Hell, I went out with a girl that had 3 nipples. Many people have high estrogen or testosterone levels that are of the other sex. I don’t think it’s fair to blame someone for being born a certain way.

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    South Korea probes for human rights abuses in U.S. raid as Trump insists foreign workers are 'welcome'

    The detention of more than 300 workers following a raid by immigration authorities at a Hyundai plant in Georgia has stunned the key U.S. ally.

    HONG KONG — South Korea said Monday that it would investigate whether its workers suffered any human rights violations during a raid by U.S. authorities as President Donald Trump insisted that he did not want to “frighten off” foreign investment.


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  • Optional
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    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
    Some people do not have XX or XY chromosomes. Many have more than one genitalia. We’re talking ~2% of the population, as much as redheads.
    If you are using the Fausto-Sterling figures pro-trans advocates demand are factual, it's actually 1.7% she claims meet her specific conditions to call inter-sex.

    Trouble with that definition of hers is that a vanishingly small % of those people consider themselves intersex.

    In America, the home of trans hysteria, less than 0.02% consider themselves inter sex to the point of seeking medical assessment or psychological support for it.


    Do you WANT to just believe the activist who has come up with astounding numbers that don't gel with anyone's personal reality? I don't when that means 1 out of every 50 people I have ever met should be inter-sex according to her

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  • Optional
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    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

    Dwight - I’ve had this conversation with you years ago. What you posted and make fun of may seem cut and dry to you BUT it’s not so simple. Do you know there are people, a lot of people that are intersex? This has been swept under the rug for decades. Some people do not have XX or XY chromosomes. Many have more than one genitalia. We’re talking ~2% of the population, as much as redheads. Some are confused because they don’t fit traditional boxes. So maybe you should use logic and reasoning on this subject.


    https://www.minus18.org.au/articles/i'm-intersex:-here's-what-that-means/?srsltid=AfmBOopzEuP2sfTlUdPfpUsQ2roqPoR tHhUTfBx4uPPT9FJBnTTKaN82
    When Dwight gets all excited that he is "winning" the contest that he acts like he is perpetually in, he loses complete perspective. Almost pointless to even bother talking to him at all when he gets this high on his own supply of rhetoric.

    Maybe we should start a poll about who holds the most blindly partisan and hateful opinions out of Hareeba and Dwight and help him see just how far he has fallen...


    I bet HE goes around pointing fingers at evil lefties trying to score political points from the Kirk shooting, whilst having zero self awareness that he is as guilty as the worst of them for doing that.

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  • Mac4Lyfe
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    Originally posted by DwightShrute

    You can't use reason and logic with people that don't know the difference between a boy and a girl.
    Dwight - I’ve had this conversation with you years ago. What you posted and make fun of may seem cut and dry to you BUT it’s not so simple. Do you know there are people, a lot of people that are intersex? This has been swept under the rug for decades. Some people do not have XX or XY chromosomes. Many have more than one genitalia. We’re talking ~2% of the population, as much as redheads. Some are confused because they don’t fit traditional boxes. So maybe you should use logic and reasoning on this subject.


    About 1.7% of the population is Intersex, yet many people have no idea what it means. Here's my experience as an intersex person.

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  • jt315
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    The Fani Willis fiasco is finally over

    The GA Supreme Court has ruled

    She’s finally and officially off the Fulton Trump RICO case


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