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  • DwightShrute
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  • DwightShrute
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    Originally posted by jackpot269
    Donald Trump is presiding over the worst stock market during a president’s first 100 days since Richard Nixon’s abbreviated second term. But what happens next?

    Through April 28, the S&P 500 was down 7.8% since Trump’s inauguration. April 29 will be the 100th day of Trump’s presidency. The last time the stock market performed this poorly was under Nixon in 1973 when the S&P 500 tumbled nearly 10% in his first 100 days.

    Trump’s First 100 Days Were the Worst for Stocks Since Nixon. What History Says Happens Next.
    probably the greatest 100 days ever for any president. Of course its not perfect but he's killing it.

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  • jackpot269
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    Donald Trump is presiding over the worst stock market during a president’s first 100 days since Richard Nixon’s abbreviated second term. But what happens next?

    Through April 28, the S&P 500 was down 7.8% since Trump’s inauguration. April 29 will be the 100th day of Trump’s presidency. The last time the stock market performed this poorly was under Nixon in 1973 when the S&P 500 tumbled nearly 10% in his first 100 days.

    Trump’s First 100 Days Were the Worst for Stocks Since Nixon. What History Says Happens Next.

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  • guitarjosh
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    Originally posted by Optional

    I've often said we don't need to panic about worst case scenarios or thin edge of the wedge fears when it comes to social movements.

    One side gets too extreme, then the other end reacts and pushes back. Usually bringing us back to a centrist path in the end.

    Neo-leftists pushing extreme versions of equality and diversity policies went too far and created the MAGA movement as the push back.

    I think the people are gradually finding that they don't like extremes of either "dogma".

    I'm hopeful that it is actually happening more quickly than would normally be expected. So we can all hold hands, sing kumbaya and be friends with all of our neighbours again.
    The problem is this isn’t a worst case scenario, many prominent democrats, like Presidents Barack Obama and Joe Biden have called for this.

    In America’s Congress, we have the House and Senate. The Senate has 2 members from each state for 100 total. There’s a thing called a filibuster, which means outside a limited number of times and issues, you can’t vote on legislation until 60% agree to hold the vote. This keeps power in check, since there’s only been a few years out of the last half century that any party has had 60%.

    The democrats, led by President Barack Obama, have explicitly stated that when they get power in the Senate again, they will eliminate the filibuster. That means that a small House majority with a 50-50 + Vice President vote and the presidency will give the democrats unchecked, absolute power for 2 years.

    The democrats have also said that with that power, they will begin adding states to the country, simply because they are overwhelmingly democratic, and will give the democrats more power. They’ve said they will pack the courts, turning one of 3 branches of government into an arm of the Democratic Party. They’ve said they will grant blanket amnesty and a pathway to citizenship for everyone here illegally, despite those people flouting the due process set up when coming to America. They’ve run people on presidential tickets who have called for what they deem to be hate speech or misinformation to be criminalized, they’ve nominated people for the Senate that think churches should be stripped of tax-exempt status if their dogma contradicts the democrat party’s platform, and they routinely claim no Constitutional rights are absolute.

    Despite this, democrats are pretending to be outraged that someone who came here illegally has been expelled from the country, claiming his due process rights were violated. I’m just pointing out the obvious, when they eagerly want to implement the above and are doing things like in the video I posted, they clearly don’t care about due process or any other Constitutional right, and need to be kept from power by all means.

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  • Optional
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    Originally posted by guitarjosh
    The problem is that we have the democrat party in America and that is party dogma. President Biden less than 3 years ago said that no Constitutional rights are absolute, and that would include our due process rights.
    I've often said we don't need to panic about worst case scenarios or thin edge of the wedge fears when it comes to social movements.

    One side gets too extreme, then the other end reacts and pushes back. Usually bringing us back to a centrist path in the end.

    Neo-leftists pushing extreme versions of equality and diversity policies went too far and created the MAGA movement as the push back.

    I think the people are gradually finding that they don't like extremes of either "dogma".

    I'm hopeful that it is actually happening more quickly than would normally be expected. So we can all hold hands, sing kumbaya and be friends with all of our neighbours again.

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  • guitarjosh
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    Originally posted by Optional

    That's equally true of the extremists on both sides Josh. And it's become worn out for the majority now I think.

    Thankfully more and more people have calmed down and are flooding back to join the sensible centrists, so this angry experiment should be over in the not too distant.
    The problem is that we have the democrat party in America and that is party dogma. President Biden less than 3 years ago said that no Constitutional rights are absolute, and that would include our due process rights.

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  • guitarjosh
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    Originally posted by khicks26
    Of course.

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    I have a real hard time buying that wealth dropped in a straight line like that, especially when the top rates were in the single digits or the 20s. That alone should destroy your point. It also lines up with what happened when men stopped being drafted into the military, and the big spikes tend to be under democrat presidents when the Fed had comparatively low interest rates and QE.

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  • Optional
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    Originally posted by guitarjosh

    And the left isn't complaining about Constitutional rights at all, because they can't profit politically from it. You don't care about rights or the Constitution, just making the people you love better off at the expense of the people you hate.
    That's equally true of the extremists on both sides Josh. And it's become worn out for the majority now I think.

    Thankfully more and more people have calmed down and are flooding back to join the sensible centrists, so this angry experiment should be over in the not too distant.

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  • guitarjosh
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    Originally posted by Hareeba!

    I never said it was "speedy" but FAFO.
    Take a look around America and you'll find hundreds if not thousands of people who've languished in jails without trials for unacceptable times.
    And the left isn't complaining about Constitutional rights at all, because they can't profit politically from it. You don't care about rights or the Constitution, just making the people you love better off at the expense of the people you hate.

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  • Hareeba!
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    RFK Jr. Kills Lifesaving Narcan Program, Will Replace With Thoughts And Prayers

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  • guitarjosh
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    Originally posted by khicks26

    LOL

    Dude, you want to bring back Robber Barons and make people suffer like it's the 1800's. You want to deport more than half the country to India. You idolize a man that funded the killing of Nuns and children in South America and flooded the American streets with crack.

    You love money more than yourself and support an economic system that causes hardship and poverty. Then say it's because you love freedom. LOL

    I tried to talk to you and all I got was insane Ideologies, you need to talk to someone who deals with mental illness.

    I'm sure you want Trump to kill me, you two have much in common.

    GL to you, but not really unless you get some help.
    I don’t want to bring back robber barons and make people suffer at all, I want a rapid increase of the standard of living for average people, as I’ve said many times. People in America then didn’t see their standards of living drop in the 1800s, but rapidly increasing. I want to take the people who want to turn America into a place best described as India there so they’d be happy, or at least see their ideology in action. You’ve said great things about Joseph Stalin, a guy who killed or oppressed billions of people and happily allied himself with Hitler.

    You’re lying again, I don’t love money more than myself, and my ideology has lifted more people out of poverty than any system ever invented. The problem is you hate people more than you want yourself to do well. It’s pretty sick when you’d hurt yourself and family if it means you can hurt people like Elon Musk more.

    You made claims about what made America so rich, and when I pointed out that other countries had more, you’d quickly pivot to something else, and we’d repeat the process until you finally just called talking about history pointless and throw out some lame insults.

    I just want Trump to do to you what you want done to me.

    In other words, help = brainwash myself to be a brain-dead socialist/communist like Hicks.


    Originally posted by khicks26

    Government is supposed to run a deficit and spend into the economy to stimulate it. What you have now in the US is rich people not paying tax's, hoarding wealth, and lending to the government with money that should have been tax's in the first place.
    And whom do you believe will benefit from all that deficit spending? If you want to drop 3 trillion on infrastructure, most of which will go to large, publically traded corporations that I own, be my guest.​

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  • khicks26
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    Of course.

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  • Hareeba!
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    Originally posted by guitarjosh

    Ok, so let’s say that the postponements were not due to prosecutors doing things like hiding or slow walking exculpatory evidence. He still sat in jail for 2 years without a trial. Do you really think that constitutes “speedy”?
    I never said it was "speedy" but FAFO.
    Take a look around America and you'll find hundreds if not thousands of people who've languished in jails without trials for unacceptable times.

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    LOL

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  • khicks26
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    Originally posted by guitarjosh

    You have no good arguments.


    You just suck, which is why everyone knows the country would be better off without you.

    Prove it.


    You have 0 evidence, just anecdotes and logical fallacies. I hope Trump does to you what you want to see done to me.
    LOL

    Dude, you want to bring back Robber Barons and make people suffer like it's the 1800's. You want to deport more than half the country to India. You idolize a man that funded the killing of Nuns and children in South America and flooded the American streets with crack.

    You love money more than yourself and support an economic system that causes hardship and poverty. Then say it's because you love freedom. LOL

    I tried to talk to you and all I got was insane Ideologies, you need to talk to someone who deals with mental illness.

    I'm sure you want Trump to kill me, you two have much in common.

    GL to you, but not really unless you get some help.

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  • guitarjosh
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    Originally posted by khicks26

    Yeah sure.

    Yeah sure.

    Yeah sure.

    Not you can't you suck at insults. LOL

    Yeah everybody hates you. LOL

    Yeah sure.

    Yeah sure.

    Thick as a brick. What a dopey bastard. Fuvk off die alone douche bag.
    You have no good arguments.


    You just suck, which is why everyone knows the country would be better off without you.

    Prove it.


    You have 0 evidence, just anecdotes and logical fallacies. I hope Trump does to you what you want to see done to me.

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  • guitarjosh
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    Originally posted by Hareeba!

    Sullivan County native Jake Lang's trial on 13 counts was scheduled to begin in federal court in Washington, D.C. on Nov. 12, after having been postponed four times at his request since 2022. He was originally supposed to stand trial in January 2023 — almost 22 months ago — and has been jailed longer than any other Jan. 6 defendant with pending charges.

    Three weeks before the trial was due to begin, Lang's lawyer asked Judge Carl Nichols to put it off again, for an unspecified period. He said in an Oct. 25 court filing that he and Lang needed more time to continue studying the "massive" evidence in the case — reams of video recordings of Trump supporters clashing with the outnumbered police officers who were guarding the Capitol.
    Ok, so let’s say that the postponements were not due to prosecutors doing things like hiding or slow walking exculpatory evidence. He still sat in jail for 2 years without a trial. Do you really think that constitutes “speedy”?

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  • Hareeba!
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    Despite promises to cut spending during the campaign and his first few months in office, President Trump's federal government has spent about $220 billion more in his first 100 days compared to the same time period last year.

    In fact, the government is now spending more, day to day, than was spent in nine of the last 10 years. The exception: 2021, when the government was spending trillions to fight the coronavirus pandemic and prevent an economic disaster.

    Despite President Trump's promise of cuts, the federal government has spent more than $200 billion more in his first 100 days than the same time period last year.


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    U.S. Treasury will now need to borrow $514 Billion this quarter, an increase of 320% from its previous estimate
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  • Hareeba!
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    Marjorie Taylor Greene bought stock in Palantir on April 8th.

    On April 17th, a $30M deal between Palantir and ICE was announced.

    Greene sits on the House Committee on Homeland Security.

    The stock has now risen 48% in the three weeks since her purchase.

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