Republican vs Democrat

[19th Hole]

Charlie Kirk’s Suspected Assassin’s Friend Debunks Liberals’ Narrative About Him

Authorities investigating the assassination of Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk are examining the political leanings of the suspected gunman after a friend described the 22-year-old as having moved sharply to the left in recent years.

The suspect, Tyler Robinson, is accused of fatally shooting Kirk on Wednesday while the conservative activist was speaking before thousands at Utah Valley University in Orem

[DwightShrute]

The shooter is not left wing. Point is if one person can say on TV on one channel the shooter is left wing and another says on another channel the shooter is right wing the FCC should not threaten news channels of only the station that said the shooter is right wing with suspending licences. That's the whole idea of the first amendment and free speech.

I disagree with pretty much everything you said. First off, he wasn't MAGA as Kimmel said. Jimmy outright lied. He knew he wasn't MAGA but decided to push that lie onto the audience. The murderer sent texts to his gay homosexual trans furry boyfriend lover. You can pretend he's not a Lefty all ya want.

Also, Jimmy's first amendment right wasn't taken away. The FCC has standards. You can't say fukk on ABC. You can't even show titties. Is he allowed to lie? Is ABC not allowed to fired anyone because the Left won't permit it? Are they obligated to keep him on the air losing millions in the process? No one is stapling his mouth shut.

Once again, people jumped the gun. The FCC didn't get him taken off the air. Neither did Trump. They have the same first amendment right to say what they feel. Disney made the call.

Many States and cities refused to show the show Tuesday. You must know why. A lot of these markets have advertizers who refused. Many are smaller markets with local businesses who are pro America AKA MAGA and they don't want to be associated with this Jimmy.

Jimmy didn't apologize. He didn't even say Charlie's name. He cried like always and played the victim. I was embarrassed for him a little. His wife must keep his balls in her purse.

I would have some respect for him if he came out and simply said that he screwed up, it was wrong to say what he did and then did a funny show. Carson made political jokes and moved on to non political things. He was known as a comedian talk show host. As was Letterman. Leno. Jimmy will never be remembered for that. He will be remembered for a woke whiny crybaby liberal political hack who ruined the Tonight Show.

did you not see this?

https://x.com/i/status/1970718558238777733

And if you did, how could you make your post?

[pavyracer]

[QUOTE=19th Hole;n29902565]

The shooter is not left wing.

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At least you are historically consistent...
Spreading lies about your fake porn girlfriend and the political bent of Charlie's assassin.
The only thing more consistent about you, other than your mendacity, is your unrelenting befuddled confusion.
Sorry about your early-onset dementia.

No evidence' found yet of ties between Charlie Kirk's shooting and left-wing groups, officials say

The federal investigation into the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk has yet to find a link between the alleged shooter, 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, and left-wing groups on which President Donald Trump and his administration have pledged to crack down after the killing, three sources familiar with the probe told NBC News.

One person familiar with the federal investigation said that “thus far, there is no evidence connecting the suspect with any left-wing groups.”

“Every indication so far is that this was one guy who did one really bad thing because he found Kirk’s ideology personally offensive,” this person continued.

[19th Hole]

[QUOTE=pavyracer;n29902557]

The shooter is not left wing.

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At least you are historically consistent...
Spreading lies about your fake porn girlfriend and the political bent of Charlie's assassin.
The only thing more consistent about you, other than your mendacity, is your unrelenting befuddled confusion.
Sorry about your early-onset dementia.

[pavyracer]

^^^^ and for some reason you think this story makes our POTUS great? It’s why the US is isolating itself from the entire world. The world doesn’t need another dictator and the US has been crapping on other countries for a century.

If you see the video of what happened Macron was joking when he called Trump while waiting to cross the street. Macron didn't have a motorcade. He was crossing the street to go from one building to the other on foot. He waited a couple minutes on the crosswalk while talking to Trump on the phone both laughing and then crossed the street.

[pavyracer]

Joe Concha
Last week Kimmel tried to portray a left-wing shooter as part of the “MAGA gang.” He didn’t utter Charlie’s name once last night, only referring to him as a “young man.” No apology to Erica Kirk or the Kirk family. By next week - he’ll go back to 3rd place while losing millions more for Disney. And rightly so.

https://x.com/i/status/1970718558238777733

I watched Jimmy's opening monologue for the first time is years tonight. I will continue to not watch him again. He obviously doesn't get it. Its all about him and pushing a liberal ideology rather than being a late night talk show host. He just doesn't get that alienating half the country with lies isn't good for business. Its not CNN. Its the Tonight Show.

Also, now that is partially back because many ABC affiliates refuse to carry his show, how long will Disney continue airing his show when his rating fall even further? And oh ya, so much for the narrative the Trump and the FCC got his fired/suspended.

The shooter is not left wing. Point is if one person can say on TV on one channel the shooter is left wing and another says on another channel the shooter is right wing the FCC should not threaten news channels of only the station that said the shooter is right wing with suspending licences. That's the whole idea of the first amendment and free speech.

[19th Hole]

Joe Concha
Last week Kimmel tried to portray a left-wing shooter as part of the “MAGA gang.” He didn’t utter Charlie’s name once last night, only referring to him as a “young man.” No apology to Erica Kirk or the Kirk family. By next week - he’ll go back to 3rd place while losing millions more for Disney. And rightly so.

https://x.com/i/status/1970718558238777733

I watched Jimmy's opening monologue for the first time is years tonight. I will continue to not watch him again. He obviously doesn't get it. Its all about him and pushing a liberal ideology rather than being a late night talk show host. He just doesn't get that alienating half the country with lies isn't good for business. Its not CNN. Its the Tonight Show.

Also, now that is partially back because many ABC affiliates refuse to carry his show, how long will Disney continue airing his show when his rating fall even further? And oh ya, so much for the narrative the Trump and the FCC got his fired/suspended.

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As is my habit, I didn't watch Kimmel.
I saw a smidgen on YOUTUBE with his half-hearted attempt at a mea culpa.
Unfunny as is his wont.

Kimmel/Colbert/Fallon --- A three-headed forgettable nightly annoyance that is spoon-fed
unfunny libtard propaganda which they regurgitate on the regular.
Simply insincere puppets who will mouth anything presented to them to maintain
a limousine lifestyle.

[jt315]

Did you miss Starmer making him angry by telling him UK was not changing immigration policy to suit Trumps agenda, would not submit to his energy system demands and would be recognizing a Palestinian state if conditions were met?

Probably not mentioned in the MAGAland echo chamber I guess...

Could you imagine UK just flat out saying No to any previous POTUS about those things? In particular Palestine?

We had been in obedient lock step with the Israeli protection scheme the USA demands for decades.

So yes, I still say he has allienated the UK, like Canada and Australia already were.


It is kind of the like the same as the way Donald dreamed he could say "stop that Vlad" on day one and Russia would do what they were told. Deja vu loser Don.

Soon he will be threatening to take over UK or Australia like he was going to with Canada, Greenland and Panama. lol. What a hot air filled joke he is.

Guy is considered a senile acting, emotional, nasty old man joke to Starmer, Carney and Albanese. And that's the non fake news facts.


Allies need him gone so we can go back to working together with a sane US administration.

There’s an old commercial here in the states that goes … Gonna be a while ? Grab yourself a Snickers .


You and the allies are gonna need lots because there’s a strong chance you’re gonna be dealing with a Vance Rubio ticket .

[19th Hole]

Yeah he seems a bit too extreme for me too.

I was being a smart ass that he is not compliant with ignoring the Epstein stuff and has suddenly disappeared from public view mostly.

Yeah, I caught your implication.
He's been visible like a pop-a-mole.

[Optional]

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Oh. Gotcha.

Not a big fan of Dan...Happy for him that he survived cancer
but he's a bit on the crude side for my taste.
Gut tells me he will be riding shotgun for the foreseeable future.

Yeah he seems a bit too extreme for me too.

I was being a smart ass that he is not compliant with ignoring the Epstein stuff and has suddenly disappeared from public view mostly.

[19th Hole]

Some sort of compromise?

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Oh. Gotcha.

Not a big fan of Dan...Happy for him that he survived cancer
but he's a bit on the crude side for my taste.
Gut tells me he will be riding shotgun for the foreseeable future.

[Optional]

Never seen before...

[DwightShrute]

Joe Concha
Last week Kimmel tried to portray a left-wing shooter as part of the “MAGA gang.” He didn’t utter Charlie’s name once last night, only referring to him as a “young man.” No apology to Erica Kirk or the Kirk family. By next week - he’ll go back to 3rd place while losing millions more for Disney. And rightly so.

https://x.com/i/status/1970718558238777733

I watched Jimmy's opening monologue for the first time is years tonight. I will continue to not watch him again. He obviously doesn't get it. Its all about him and pushing a liberal ideology rather than being a late night talk show host. He just doesn't get that alienating half the country with lies isn't good for business. Its not CNN. Its the Tonight Show.

Also, now that is partially back because many ABC affiliates refuse to carry his show, how long will Disney continue airing his show when his rating fall even further? And oh ya, so much for the narrative the Trump and the FCC got his fired/suspended.

[jt315]

Donald Trump Supreme Court Appeals Per NBC

Trump Victory: 19

Trump Loss: 2

Pending: 4

[Optional]

Take off your blinders...The solution to peace is very simple.

Some sort of compromise?

Have you heard from Dan lately 19th?

Sorry, Unaware of anyone named Dan.

[19th Hole]

Have you heard from Dan lately 19th?

Sorry, Unaware of anyone named Dan.

[19th Hole]

Confused Euros/Aussies/Canucks probably wonder why god fearing MAGA extremists refuse to accept the existence of human civilians.

What Would Charlie Say? Murder more innocents because you say they don't exist?

Wonder why supposedly educated folks behave like foolish unaware sheep.

Take off your blinders...The solution to peace is very simple.

[Optional]

Confused Euros/Aussies/Canucks Fail To Realize That There is no Palestine

Confused Euros/Aussies/Canucks probably wonder why god fearing MAGA extremists refuse to accept the existence of human civilians.

What Would Charlie Say? Murder more innocents because you say they don't exist?



Have you heard from Dan lately 19th?

[19th Hole]

Mosab Hassan Yousef JARS Entire E.U With The Truth About Palestinians

Confused Euros/Aussies/Canucks Fail To Realize That There is no Palestine

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How UAE and Saudi Arabia Would Handle Extremists - Lesson To Learn

[19th Hole]

Trump sends ‘strong message’ to world leaders for ‘destroying’ Western civilisation

Lefties Losing It: ‘Cocktail Kamala’ humiliates herself again on The View, MSNBC




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‘Bravado and humour’: Donald Trump’s UN speech analysed

[19th Hole]

"Most People Have No Idea What's About To Happen After Trump's Response To Ilhan Omar" | Elon Musk

[19th Hole]

Tulsi Gabbard Just EXPOSED Hillary Clinton's Dirty Secret And It's Going Viral

[DwightShrute]

I'm only responsible for what I write, not what you choose read it as saying.

And whilst I am yet to ever call Trump a pedo, I would like to know how you feel so certain he isn't?

Surely a bloke who over decades has often spoken about his penchant for models and young women and hung around with a guy at the center of an underage sex trafficking scandal is at least worthy of keeping in the unsure basket?


If you do not see the POTUS berating people to not mention Epstein as proof he is trying to influence protection of the perps, I'm not sure what to say Dwight. Do you think he actually wants to see justice done in the matter?

I have said why a few times already. I will type a little slower this time. The Biden administration weaponized the justice system to try stop Trump from winning and if there was anything in the Epstein files, they would have used it. 100% for certain. Trump kicked out Epstein from his property once he found out what a creep he was and Trump agreed to talk to the victims' lawyer about him.

Yes I think he wants the Epstein stuff to be released but he doesn't care too much about it because its not that important to him. He knows the fake news media will make up their own narrative about it when they are eventually released. They are doing that now. You are doing that now.

Tell the judges to release it. No need to blame Trump or accuse him from protecting anyone. There is nothing to suggest he's doing any of that.

Don't forget that Trump was impeached with zero evidence he did anything impeachable. Twice. He was accused of colluding with Russia despite 4 investigations all concluding he didn't. Obama told his FBI to keep pushing the lie even after he saw the facts. Adam Schiff looked into the camera and said he saw evidence he colluded. Schiff lied. They said Trump incited violence on J6 when he clearly did no such thing. They created a phony committee and broadcasted it. They lied and cried but never showed a sliver of evidence of their accusations.

So, pardon me Opti for not believing the same people who have been caught deliberately lying to you repeatedly.

[Optional]

ok, you are insinuating then. Constantly.

Who are these Epstein perpetrators and how is Trump protecting them exactly?

I'm only responsible for what I write, not what you choose read it as saying.

And whilst I am yet to ever call Trump a pedo, I would like to know how you feel so certain he isn't?

Surely a bloke who over decades has often spoken about his penchant for models and young women and hung around with a guy at the center of an underage sex trafficking scandal is at least worthy of keeping in the unsure basket?


If you do not see the POTUS berating people to not mention Epstein as proof he is trying to influence protection of the perps, I'm not sure what to say Dwight. Do you think he actually wants to see justice done in the matter?

[DwightShrute]

Quote me, or quit gaslighting/lying?

I can quote me saying I don't think there is proof of Trump pedo activity in any of the "files" several times...


Now back to your long awaited decision. Do you think Trump should be protecting the Epstein perpetrators?

ok, you are insinuating then. Constantly.

Who are these Epstein perpetrators and how is Trump protecting them exactly?

[Optional]

dude, you keep saying Trump is a pedo

Quote me, or quit gaslighting/lying?

I can quote me saying I don't think there is proof of Trump pedo activity in any of the "files" several times...


Now back to your long awaited decision. Do you think Trump should be protecting the Epstein perpetrators?

[DwightShrute]

Look at you gas lighting hard!

It's no lie that under Trump's orders the govt is doing everything it can to avoid bringing the Epstein perpetrators to account.

Are you still waiting to decide if they should be protecting them or not?

You do appear to have made your decision but just can't bring yourself to say your truth out loud.

dude, you keep saying Trump is a pedo despite absolutely zero evidence of your accusation. Does that stop you from continuously posting it? Of course not. I want the Epstein stuff to be released also. I told you that already. You weren't obsessed with them during Biden's presidency.

I went to Grok and simply typed in "why arent the epstein files being released". I suggest you do the same.

I won't post it all because its quite big, but here is a small taste ...

Key Reasons for Non-Release
Based on court rulings, official statements, and congressional testimony, the delays stem from a mix of legal constraints, victim protections, and strategic considerations. Here's a breakdown:

Reason - Explanation - Key Examples/Evidence
Court Orders and Sealed Records

Federal judges have repeatedly denied unsealing requests, citing laws protecting grand jury secrecy (e.g., Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6(e)). Releasing sealed materials could violate due process or taint ongoing probes. FBI Director Kash Patel testified in September 2025 that "multiple federal court orders" prevent full release, calling it illegal to override them.

[Optional]

I don't hate trans people or immigrants or liberals. I treat people like they treat me. If you are nice to me, I will be nice to you. I am a counter puncher also though.

You keep pushing the Trump pedo lie like a good boy just like you did when you pretended Elon did a Nazi salute.

I treat everyone equally. I always have. Equal treatment under the law of course and equal opportunity to get ahead absolutely. I haven't you any sign that you could possible question that.

You are projecting and using straw man arguments.

Look at you gas lighting hard!

It's no lie that under Trump's orders the govt is doing everything it can to avoid bringing the Epstein perpetrators to account.

Are you still waiting to decide if they should be protecting them or not?

You do appear to have made your decision but just can't bring yourself to say your truth out loud.

[DwightShrute]

You are kidding yourself.

Decency to your brethren. But hate and alienation for trans people, or immigrants, or liberals, or anyone who refuses to protect Trump and his pedo pals.

Decency = equality for ALL the people. Equal treatment under the law for EVERYONE. Equal opportunity to get ahead for EVERY person.

You could use a little woke in your life to recognize just how indecent your thinking is.

I don't hate trans people or immigrants or liberals. I treat people like they treat me. If you are nice to me, I will be nice to you. I am a counter puncher also though.

You keep pushing the Trump pedo lie like a good boy just like you did when you pretended Elon did a Nazi salute.

I treat everyone equally. I always have. Equal treatment under the law of course and equal opportunity to get ahead absolutely. I haven't given you any sign that you could possibly question that. You are projecting and using straw man arguments. You have been doing that more and more as of late. Check your post history if you don't believe me.

[Optional]

the truth can be hard to hear, we all know. Europe is ruining the country much like America was doing. Lucky for the US, they came to their sense just in time. The Liberal media keep pushing this nonsense but all of those people live in huge houses in gated communities far away from all of it. They will even fly to another country an try to import a gang member knowing full well he was going to be immediately deported again. That is how deranged and utterly woke these people are, and you parrot the insanity.

I am on the side of decency. I am not sure what to call the side you are on but I do know its full of woke and TDS.

Have a super day.

You are kidding yourself.

Decency to your brethren. But hate and alienation for trans people, or immigrants, or liberals, or anyone who refuses to protect Trump and his pedo pals.

Decency = equality for ALL the people. Equal treatment under the law for EVERYONE. Equal opportunity to get ahead for EVERY person.

You could use a little woke in your life to recognize just how indecent your thinking is.

[Optional]

this is what you want to move closer to? Really? this?

More laws to silence Canadians under the liberal clown show

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=14...BPajQpiq5VGk Z

You're like a hysterical harpie with your sky is falling in other countries stuff.

1) No obviously I don't choose to move closer to a clown show.

2) America is the clown show for now, so if you mean would I prefer Canadas policies to Trumps... hell yeah. You'd have to be brainwashed cult member or HATE the USA and want the union destroyed to think anything else.

[Optional]

No, he was great before that story. Just imagine how any of us would fare against the full weight of weaponized federal intelligence campaigns, weaponized DOJ & kangaroo courts, and some assassination attempts thrown in to boot.

He's a fukkin' legend.

You mean the guy Vlad Putin teabags on the reg?

The guy Netanyahu treats like his puppet whilst ignoring all requests to stop murdering civilians and have a ceasefire?

The same dude gaslighting you how he has solved 7 wars on his own... just not the two he guaranteed he would solve day one?

That guy who is "So Respected" lol by all his ally leaders?

The dude openly protecting the pedo deep state sex trafffickers??

That guy probably will be a legend... a legendary laughing stock that colors the way the rest of the world sees America for decades to come.

Being a game changer doesn't make you smart or correct. But it does make you look like a buffoon when it goes this badly.



Although come to think of it, he has earned legendary status as a backstabbing, disloyal, lying, no honor POS for his treatment of Australia... EFF THAT GUY MATE!

[DwightShrute]

I hope Australia, Canada and the UK continue to move away from him and closer together as the new moral leaders of the world.

this is what you want to move closer to? Really? this?

More laws to silence Canadians under the liberal clown show

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1424752522157970&rdid=ugGBPajQpiq5VGk Z

[DwightShrute]

Did you see your crazy old cult leader laughed at like he was some lunatic at the UN when he was raving on about all other countries being shitty and a mess?




Everyone looking around the room wondering if he actually thinks having regular political assassinations, plumetting quality of life metrics and half the people so seething with hate that they want to kill the other half is what other countries should aim for he might genuinely be as senile as your last POTUS.


It's sad that people like you and Dwight are so gas lighted you actually think other countries have the problem :\ Or that it even should matter to Americans what cultural and social choices other countries should make!

Ever wondered why MAGA suddenly cares so much about how the rest of the world does it's own politics? Feel that smoke blowing up your bum yet guy?

Get woke to your own brainwashed state and you will be free to think again!

the truth can be hard to hear, we all know. Europe is ruining the country much like America was doing. Lucky for the US, they came to their sense just in time. The Liberal media keep pushing this nonsense but all of those people live in huge houses in gated communities far away from all of it. They will even fly to another country an try to import a gang member knowing full well he was going to be immediately deported again. That is how deranged and utterly woke these people are, and you parrot the insanity.

I am on the side of decency. I am not sure what to call the side you are on but I do know its full of woke and TDS.

Have a super day.

[Optional]

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Canada Tries Clever Counter-Terrorism Strategy Of Giving Terrorists Everything They Want

"Canada joined with Portugal, Australia, and the UK in recognizing the Palestinian state
so that terrorists will leave them alone."
Sep 22, 2025

OTTAWA, CANADA — In response to growing threats, Canada is pushing back against the Palestinian terror networks
by employing a clever counter-terrorism strategy of giving terrorists whatever they want.

"You want us to recognize the state of Palestine? You got it!" Prime Minister Mark Carney said in a statement.
"Our bold plan to capitulate to Hamas will certainly bring about lasting world peace at any moment."

Carney's statement continued, "We have long supported a two-state solution for lasting peace,
even though the Palestinians clearly don't want that.
It seems to me that if we just pretend there is no Israel and that Palestine is the greatest country in the world,
the problem will just fix itself."

Canada's Minister of Foreign Affairs, Anita Anand, echoed Carney's sentiment.
"We'll give you whatever you want! Please don't blow us up!" she said.

Canada joined with Portugal, Australia, and the UK in recognizing the Palestinian state so that terrorists
will leave them alone.
"With this act, I hereby save the UK," said English Prime Minister Keir Starmer.

At publishing time, the Canadian parliament had signed a resolution to send all its maple syrup to Gaza.
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Lovely to see Optional's raving about the newfound glorious independent leadership spearheaded by Australia, Canada,
Portugal and the UK.
They are ridding the world of erronious, spurious leadership of Trump Trump Trump MAGA MAGA MAGA
Of course, your narcissistic personality disorder won't allow you to recognize the fact
that this was meant to be sarcasm.
My gawd man...Reading is fundamental. This coming from the same confused mind the uses y'all and whilst.
Don't overlook the maple syrup.

Optimal's festering hatred of all things Trumpian America and MAGA were exposed and released.
Well done Babylon Bee.

Did you see your crazy old cult leader laughed at like he was some lunatic at the UN when he was raving on about all other countries being shitty and a mess?




Everyone looking around the room wondering if he actually thinks having regular political assassinations, plumetting quality of life metrics and half the people so seething with hate that they want to kill the other half is what other countries should aim for he might genuinely be as senile as your last POTUS.


It's sad that people like you and Dwight are so gas lighted you actually think other countries have the problem :\ Or that it even should matter to Americans what cultural and social choices other countries should make!

Ever wondered why MAGA suddenly cares so much about how the rest of the world does it's own politics? Feel that smoke blowing up your bum yet guy?

Get woke to your own brainwashed state and you will be free to think again!