Correct, another cost even of the stupid move; we were going there anyway, true but organically with the Fed and the markets. Zero interest rates, QE to infinity, etc. You should potentially ruined the world economy for basically no again. Sorry, 0-4, they keep adding up.
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Right. If you were going there anyway, you do what needs to be done. And then you reboot capitalism which does not work in this situation.
The problem now is rebooting capitalism when this is over because people now see how it works. So they are going to say: "Oh, I see what you did there...."
But the country has the ability to basically reset things as they were. It will take a few years. They cannot reset things as they were if they pick and choose who lives.Comment -
fauci's already guaranteed my win.... and with the inflated numbers being pointed out more and more by the day, actual heart-condition related deaths being classified by the cdc as covid-19; diabetes deaths, etc.... the dramatic drop in those categories of deeaths due to them being mischaracterized as coviid deaths, etc., shows the us is wildly overestimating its deaths, which I knew it would.....
You did? According to who? YOU? Show me a link where you blew that away.
I've never stiffed anyone on SBR ever in over 10 years. In fact... I've given away thousands of points for various contests that I've started myself. I just gave away 500 points yesterday. Check my points history. Ask that guy if he thinks I'm a stiff. If your number one concern is being stiffed by me you haven't done your research. I on the other hand... I fully expect to be stiffed by you. It makes no difference to me if people stiff me on SBR. In fact... I would almost prefer it. I am merely exposing them for who they actually are.
I can understand your concern for not having reliable numbers. But here is my question for you... with all you REALLY SMART guys saying that the numbers are not reliable... surely... at least one person in your group is a MATH guy. There must be at least ONE of you Trump supporters in the country that has more reliable and "factual" numbers.
I trust the numbers in the link below:
You can insult the link above all day long if you want... if it makes you feel manly, atta boy, good for you. But if you don't have a reliable source yourself... you are merely speculating. Are you telling me that there's not even ONE self proclaimed stable genius of Trump supporters that has more reliable data? You show me data that you consider reliable and I will take a look at it.
If you REALLY thought you would win... you wouldn't hesitate. Are you seeing me hesitate? Your only argument right now is that you don't trust the data. Yet... you don't have a single source that you trust. How is it that there's not a single Trump supporter on the planet that can't come up with a way to provide more reliable data?
we are the only nation on the planet where a slight majority of the population (idiot dems/libs/you) ACTUALLY WANT MORE DEATHS to be covid related than there actually are.....
save your money, taking it from you would be like taking candy from a mother fukkin' coviid-stricken baby..........Comment -
I have whipped your ass every time.... your idiot "threesome lie" was jammed so far wellup your ass you couldn't get it there from your boyfriend for a month...........
your epic fail to verify yourself after comming up with stupid fukkin' narrative so lame no one bought it..........
your totally embarrassing lack of employment (you've been well-documented and confirmed loser with no job, that much is for sure)....
your failure to show at a bash where i'd beat your fukkin ass to a bloody pulp........
your failure to commit to a future bash where I'd even flty your broke ass out on my dime so I could beat your ass to a bloody pulp..........
you're a phony, a lying p o s., and a total f'n pussy........
fuk off
when -- and if -- your tiny lliberal balls ever drop and you come out from your mom's basement or whatever tiny rock youre hiding behind, I'll fly up to philly on MY DIME as well as your're too broke to fly anyone anywhere, and beat your mother fukkin' ass to a pulp..........Comment -
well, after watching new yorkers in nyc on the news this morning, and how f'n stupid these people are (lined up on top of each other, doing stupid shit on film like hugging each other as they leave hospittals, hugging when they come back to hospitals, touching faces, no masks, just being idiots), I would have to see if humans keep being stupid fukkin' humans, they may make a run at 85,000 deaths after all......
I predicted 95,000 deaths using my models (one a ten, the other a 9, so I took the average of them, and got nine.five x 10,0000).........
it'll fall soomewhere between my high end number overestimate of 95K and fauci's imhe 60,000..........
but with idiots in nyc showing how f'n stuid they are, no telling what a second run of this shit might cause......
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Fauci didn't guarantee anything. The projection was simply adjusted. This is not uncommon... in ANYTHING. The projections will ALWAYS be changing. I could project how many wins the Yankees will get next year right now... but a month into the season my projections will likely be different. 3 months into the season... they will likely be different again. The more data you have and the further you get into the season the more accurate your projections should become. 1 month ago we had very little data. Now, we have more. But keep in mind... and this is HUGE... in the U.S. were are just over 1 month into the season... Covid-19 could last 18 months or longer. The projections we have today for 60K deaths is for August 4th. That's only 5 months during a season that could last 18 months or more. Do you think on August 4th Covid-19 is going to say... "Okay boys... we met our quota... the season is over. Let's go home".
The projections we have today... will likely not be the same as the projections we have on August 4th. And if you think it's going to magically go away by August 4th you are deluding yourself.
Don't confuse with what I want to be true compared to what I think will be true. This is the #1 mistake people that bet on sports make. If you want to have ANY chance of getting to reality(and win money betting sports, which I have done) you MUST be able to know the difference between what you WANT to be true and what is ACTUALLY true. If I predict my favorite Baseball team to LOSE 80 games next year... it doesn't mean that I WANT them to lose 80 games. I'd rather they go undefeated... but what I WANT to happen is completely irrelevant to reality. Covid-19 is no different.
I WANT there to be FAR less than 60K deaths. If I didn't... I wouldn't be on here daily trying to educate fools like you who aren't taking this thing seriously. I'm showing simple graphs in HOPES that you will be able to see a trend and MAYBE realize what is actually happening. Here's another graph below:
Even if the numbers aren't precisely correct... and they most certainly probably are not... doesn't mean you can deny the numbers entirely. The more data we get the better our numbers will become over time. If you don't understand what that red line rapidly sky rocketing in the upward direction means... let me know and I will explain it to you. In short... if that red line represented your business numbers... it would be VERY VERY good for you. If it's a virus rapidly spreading across this country... it is VERY VERY bad. Make sense yet?
Anyone can see that you don't believe your own non-sense. If you did... you wouldn't hesitate to bet me. Not for one second. Nothing would give me more pleasure than you being correct about less than 60K deaths. Not only would I happily pay you... I would publicly apologize to the forum and tell everyone how accurate all of your posts were during all of this. Unfortunately... I think the chances of your predictions being correct are slim to none.Last edited by JohnGalt2341; 04-11-20, 10:58 AM.Comment -
Great quote from old baseball manager Whitey Herzog:
“I’m 88. I’m a diabetic. I’ve had heart surgery. I’ve had a stroke. But I’m glad I don’t live in Texas or the [lieutenant] governor would say, ‘Just let the SOB die. He’s worth more dead.’”Comment -
without takin' the time to responding to all your pathetically condescending bullshit, the numbers aren't anywhere near what was projected to scare a shutdown of our economy as we did..... deaths and hospitalizations.Fauci didn't guarantee anything. The projection was simply adjusted. This is not uncommon... in ANYTHING. The projections will ALWAYS be changing. I could project how many wins the Yankees will get next year right now... but a month into the season my projections will likely be different. 3 months into the season... they will likely be different again. The more data you have and the further you get into the season the more accurate your projections should become. 1 month ago we had very little data. Now, we have more. But keep in mind... and this is HUGE... in the U.S. were are just over 1 month into the season... Covid-19 could last 18 months or longer. The projections we have today for 60K deaths is for August 4th. That's only 5 months during a season that could last 18 months or more. Do you think on August 4th Covid-19 is going to say... "Okay boys... we met our quota... the season is over. Let's go home".
The projections we have today... will likely not be the same as the projections we have on August 4th. And if you think it's going to magically go away by August 4th you are deluding yourself.
Don't confuse with what I want to be true compared to what I think will be true. This is the #1 mistake people that bet on sports make. If you want to have ANY chance of getting to reality(and win money betting sports, which I have done) you MUST be able to know the difference between what you WANT to be true and what is ACTUALLY true. If I predict my favorite Baseball team to LOSE 80 games next year... it doesn't mean that I WANT them to lose 80 games. I'd rather they go undefeated... but what I WANT to happen is completely irrelevant to reality. Covid-19 is no different.
I WANT there to be FAR less than 60K deaths. If I didn't... I wouldn't be on here daily trying to educate fools like you who aren't taking this thing seriously. I'm showing simple graphs in HOPES that you will be able to see a trend and MAYBE realize what is actually happening. Here's another graph below:
Even if the numbers aren't precisely correct... and they most certainly probably are not... doesn't mean you can deny the numbers entirely. The more data we get the better our numbers will become over time. If you don't understand what that red line rapidly sky rocketing in the upward direction means... let me know and I will explain it to you. In short... if that red line represented your business numbers... it would be VERY VERY good for you. If it's a virus rapidly spreading across this country... it is VERY VERY bad. Make sense yet?
Anyone can see that you don't believe your own non-sense. If you did... you wouldn't hesitate to bet me. Not for one second. Nothing would give me more pleasure than you being correct about less than 60K deaths. Not only would I happily pay you... I would publicly apologize to the forum and tell everyone how accurate all of your posts were during all of this. Unfortunately... I think the chances of your predictions being correct are slim to none.
Yeah, I can read a single line graph....... as long as we're being condescending, your dumb ass apparently can't read "99 percent surviaval rate".....
letting it rip, worst case, was predicted to be 2.2 million deaths... worst case!!!!!!!!!! DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS????
CAN YOU DIVIDE 2.2 BY 330???? DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE GIVES YOU????
I don't bet dumbasses who obviously can't grasp this simple concepts, as no way you'd be able to figure out how to send me the winnings.....
making a dumbass unenforceable air bet with you proves nothing.... in the end, the numbers will be what they are, inflated or otherwise.... I notice you ignore the fact that all other deaths are down nationwide (illness related), as obviously this reduction is being erroneously attributed to cv........ is that in your graph? no?
do you have any clue how to adjust your graph? NO....
DO you know what you should do with your graph? NO......
Since you don't have a clue, I"ll give you a hint....... stick your fukkin graph up your arrogant, condescending ass, as you truly don't have a fukkin' clue, dumbass.....Last edited by Auto Donk; 04-11-20, 12:16 PM.Comment -
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This tactic again.
This person is saying that the death rate is down compared to last year, therefore COVID-19 is a “nothing burger”.
He or she has plucked a trend that fits their agenda (the trend of declining death rate) and is using it to push the narrative that COVID-19 is basically harmless.
The death rate across advanced civilisations has been declining year on year for at least the last 25 years due to a variety of reasons. Safer roads, advances in medicine, healthier lifestyles. It would be shocking if the 2020 death rate doesn’t follow the downward trend and if accurate data re COVID-19 becomes available it could show a black swan spike in the death rate graph over any significant time frame in countries that can’t contain it.Comment -
what is some interesting data was the negative test rate among all people in the usa being tested for suspected cv, displaying symptoms....
dr. birx went over it late last week, and it was very telling.... ten percent of those under 25 tested pos, 90 perc negative...
middle age was around 15-16 pos, after that around 20 percent... over 80 was like 24 percent....... so the overwhelming serious symptoms are indeed non-cv.... other shit is defiintiely out there....
the numbers being compiled, in many instances, are not even cv-test related, as in nyc they are not testing most corpses found in non hospital settings, and are just chalking them up to cv.....
all the more reason you simply cannot trust the numbers, particularly when being compiled by those with an agenda to increase them for political or whatever other purposes......Comment -
Auto Donk is such a pussy. You can’t hide forever you conspiracy loon. Give up....Galt is bitch slapping you all over this thread.Comment -
As of now the death rate(deaths divided by outcomes) of all recorded outcomes (deaths + recoveries) is just north of 40%.....
60% chance of living after positive needing hospitalization.......
Healthy or Unhealthy before catching COVID 19, needing hospitalization
4 outta 10 is gonna die......
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This is from my state PA which is pretty strict on social distancing.......
Hospitalizations by Age Range to DateAge Range Percent of Cases 0-4 < 1% 5-12 < 1% 13-18 < 1% 19-24 1% 25-49 19% 50-64 29% 65+ 51%
You could scale this much higher in the states that isn't strict on social distancing.......Comment -
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No, I said that excess mortality doesn't exist - you actually are proving my point anyway. Address that or stop bloviating.
What's more, it is moronic to say that I stated that Covid-19 is "basically harmless." I didn't say anything of the sort. The seasonal flu isn't harmless, and I don't call it harmless. Argue in good faith, or at least with logic, you don't even address the argument let alone set up silly straw men with language I never used. Come on now, it's embarrassing.Comment -
A good way to think about this, if you actually have an open mind, would be: "What evidence would make me worry less, or agree with these guys, that it isn't a big deal (in comparison to things we don't worry about like seasonal flu)?"
If you, like so many others on the thread, won't take any evidence that would change your belief, then you are just spitting into the wind. It's useless to discuss things with such people, because they make a conclusion and then look for evidence. The whole point of science is to have a method to falsify hypotheses. If you will never allow yourself to have a position that can be falsified, you are wasting people's time.
Yet people can't even understand this basic principle about science. And then they talk about "science" all the time. It's really stupid.Comment -
19 and younger should be only people working.......
They all live together in the schools of their district together......Comment -
actual number as of friday according to cnn was FIVE..... (and, of course, that is bullshit, as one has been proven to be a homicide -- by suffocation).... so, FOUR.......
FOUR FUKKIN' DEATHS in the 25 and under age class here in the US according to cnn.....
fukheads like vitturd spread fake news, JJ, don't buy into it.......
notice that every category of illness other than cv has had a dramatic drop in deaths, due to all of those deaths now being classified as cv deaths......
total bullshit...... don't fall for it.......
get your ass to work....... this whole response has been a travesty, based on fake news and leftist political agendas......
trashing the economy based on a bad flu season was the left's only chance to stop trump in 2020, and now it's backfiring as his approval rating continues to rise........
you can see how poorly it's going for idiot libs/dems just by gauging the sad as fuk look on jake tapper's f'n sadsack face each day........the sadder he looks, the more trump is kicking his and vitturd's and the rest of the left's f'n asses!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Very glad you are out of my reach...........Comment -
just give it up, twat.......
go shoot a vid, take a photo, do anything to prove anything about yourself.......
oh yeah, you can't.....
so attempt to ride on the coattails of a guy wanting to air bet me on numbers that can never be confirmed one way or the other, but which will ultimately fall way short of anything at all that would justify the economic damage that has been done....Comment
