How PISSED OFF are Trump Voters right now

[rkelly110]

Lowering taxes does work and it will work this time. Research 1980 when Reagan inherited 12% unemployment - 18% interest rates - 11% inflation, now that's a REAL recession. Massive tax cuts pull us out of a near depression.

You see it in black and white and know the US has the highest corporate tax rate on the planet. There is no disagreement there? I will post the global rate table if need be but I think we all agree that the US is the highest taxed. Certainly even as you lean left you must realize we are losing business because lower tax rates are luring companies away, our companies. Obama has mentioned our corp tax rate is not competitive. There may be some left/right politics in there but at the end of the day you just don't want to be the highest taxed and I know most liberals in their heart of hearts know it.

The CBO (Congressional Budget Office) says Trumps tax policy will add to the deficit in the trillions.

From what I understand, Trump will cut the corporate tax rate, but will do away with some deductions/ loopholes.
So instead of them taking advantage of the old way and paying nothing, they will pay something.

What's in place now, will balance the budget over 10 years, but if you throw in building the wall and infrastructure,
all that goes out the window.

[brooks85]

The CBO (Congressional Budget Office) says Trumps tax policy will add to the deficit in the trillions.

From what I understand, Trump will cut the corporate tax rate, but will do away with some deductions/ loopholes.
So instead of them taking advantage of the old way and paying nothing, they will pay something.

What's in place now, will balance the budget over 10 years, but if you throw in building the wall and infrastructure,
all that goes out the window.

that is how and when you use an emoticon. The CBO uses "my truths" too!!! lol that was a good one


bless your comedy rkelly, funny as hell

[rkelly110]

complete bullshit but that's khicks. That is what he brings to the table.


lol hilarious how naive you are on basic economics. Truly economics 101 stuff.

Let's see YOUR math on taking a pay cut while piling on more debt and paying for that debt.

[brooks85]

Let's see YOUR math on taking a pay cut while piling on more debt and paying for that debt.

show my math to someone who can't even do math?


yeah that sounds like a real solid idea there rkelly.

lol hilarious how you actually think you're in a position to learn something? honestly, what in the world would make you think that?

[RoyBacon]

Yes it will add debt, the problem is we have no choice. We have the highest business tax in the world except for Chad and the UAE. We will have even more debt as companies leave and another 70,000 factories close shrinking the tax base even more. And worse, as the economy contracts we will need massive spending cuts and no one wants that. Even socialist type countries have cut their business tax rates in the past decade. Business tax reform is or dam well should be right in Trumps wheel house.

[TheSideBet]

Let's see YOUR math on taking a pay cut while piling on more debt and paying for that debt.

I can see an argument for leverage here. As long as borrowed debt returns down the road it is a great move. Think of cutting back on brand name stuff for two years and going back to school to increase your salary by 30%. You'll take a hit short term but once you start that higher pay, you're in the black.

From what I've seen the last several years we've taken on debt and used it on nights out at the bar and hookers but no monetary return.

[rkelly110]

I can see an argument for leverage here. As long as borrowed debt returns down the road it is a great move. Think of cutting back on brand name stuff for two years and going back to school to increase your salary by 30%. You'll take a hit short term but once you start that higher pay, you're in the black.

From what I've seen the last several years we've taken on debt and used it on nights out at the bar and hookers but no monetary return.

Any business man worth his salt will make cuts and reduce waste. We haven't begun to see what Trump will do
to an over bloated govt. If he has the power, I see a lot of branches of govt gone or conglomerated.
Once an agency is formed, it's practically impossible to get rid of it.

I don't want to stop and pay a toll on a recently renovated bridge/ road every 1/2 mile either. Experience in my state
with privatization is horrible. Less service and continual rate hikes.

[TheSideBet]

Any business man worth his salt will make cuts and reduce waste. We haven't begun to see what Trump will do
to an over bloated govt. If he has the power, I see a lot of branches of govt gone or conglomerated.
Once an agency is formed, it's practically impossible to get rid of it.

I don't want to stop and pay a toll on a recently renovated bridge/ road every 1/2 mile either. Experience in my state
with privatization is horrible. Less service and continual rate hikes.

I'm sure he'll cut where he can. Hopefully we all agree that is a smart thing to do. We've seen consecutive records of taxes being paid in so no reason we shouldn't be able to cut back in some areas and lessen the burden if we aren't going to service the debt any. We'll see. I'm open to some privatization when it helps and maybe outsourcing a few govt jobs to the private sector. Whichever is more efficient and gets us the best bang for our bucks.

[chico2663]

Any business man worth his salt will make cuts and reduce waste. We haven't begun to see what Trump will do
to an over bloated govt. If he has the power, I see a lot of branches of govt gone or conglomerated.
Once an agency is formed, it's practically impossible to get rid of it.

I don't want to stop and pay a toll on a recently renovated bridge/ road every 1/2 mile either. Experience in my state
with privatization is horrible. Less service and continual rate hikes.

Congress made it easy. they passed a law which says they can pay a federal worker a 1 a yr. this was originally passed in 1866.

[rkelly110]

Congress made it easy. they passed a law which says they can pay a federal worker a 1 a yr. this was originally passed in 1866.

No wonder brooksy lives at home.

[chico2663]

No wonder brooksy lives at home.

You mean vi? The village idiot? Formerly known as brooks. Famous for post history,sheep and quit running from me? I still believe he lives in a group home for the mentally challenged.

[khicks26]

Lowering taxes does work and it will work this time. Research 1980 when Reagan inherited 12% unemployment - 18% interest rates - 11% inflation, now that's a REAL recession. Massive tax cuts pull us out of a near depression.

You see it in black and white and know the US has the highest corporate tax rate on the planet. There is no disagreement there? I will post the global rate table if need be but I think we all agree that the US is the highest taxed. Certainly even as you lean left you must realize we are losing business because lower tax rates are luring companies away, our companies. Obama has mentioned our corp tax rate is not competitive. There may be some left/right politics in there but at the end of the day you just don't want to be the highest taxed and I know most liberals in their heart of hearts know it.

The 1% are not job creators, they destroy jobs. They use leverage to buy out companies, downsize its labor force, loot the pension funds, & ship the jobs off to China or what ever low wage labor country. Now you want to give them a bigger tax break.

Reagan gave rise to Neoliberalism which is why were in the mess we are today. But right wingers hold the guy up like he was a hero. I know Reagan's policies & what they have done to this country. He also left a massive debt behind, as will Trump.

[khicks26]

complete bullshit but that's khicks. That is what he brings to the table.


lol hilarious how naive you are on basic economics. Truly economics 101 stuff.

[chico2663]

The 1% are not job creators, they destroy jobs. They use leverage to buy out companies, downsize its labor force, loot the pension funds, & ship the jobs off to China or what ever low wage labor country. Now you want to give them a bigger tax break.

Reagan gave rise to Neoliberalism which is why were in the mess we are today. But right wingers hold the guy up like he was a hero. I know Reagan's policies & what they have done to this country. He also left a massive debt behind, as will Trump.

Problem is our youth will believe what ever that fox news tells them. You show them facts and they just ignore you. Just like when he says reagan was so great but then you ask him why the senate that was under the rule of repubs for the first 6 years switch to dem they have no answer.

[khicks26]

Problem is our youth will believe what ever that fox news tells them. You show them facts and they just ignore you. Just like when he says reagan was so great but then you ask him why the senate that was under the rule of repubs for the first 6 years switch to dem they have no answer.

I know, most were not even alive when Reagan was President. But think they know how great it was at the time. They never hear of the stupid shit Reagan did.

[khicks26]

Adam Smith long ago remarked that profits often are highest in nations going fastest to ruin. There are many ways to create economic suicide on a national level. The major way through history has been through indebting the economy. Debt always expands to reach a point where it cannot be paid by a large swathe of the economy. This is the point where austerity is imposed and ownership of wealth polarizes between the One Percent and the 99 Percent. Today is not the first time this has occurred in history. But it is the first time that running into debt has occurred deliberately.” Applauded. “As if most debtors can get rich by borrowing, not reduced to a condition of debt peonage.”

[rkelly110]

I know, most were not even alive when Reagan was President. But think they know how great it was at the time. They never hear of the stupid shit Reagan did.

I know with each and every Repub pres, I feared for my job and that was with each term. Bush finally got me.

With Reagan's recession I feared for my job. When the economy started to rebound is when this part time
shit started. I bought a house during Carter at 7% interest. During Reagan I bought another house at 13%.
Paid my house off after multiple refi's at 7% under Bush.

The only thing I liked about Reagan was tearing down the wall.

[DwightShrute]

[chico2663]

I know with each and every Repub pres, I feared for my job and that was with each term. Bush finally got me.

With Reagan's recession I feared for my job. When the economy started to rebound is when this part time
shit started. I bought a house during Carter at 7% interest. During Reagan I bought another house at 13%.
Paid my house off after multiple refi's at 7% under Bush.

The only thing I liked about Reagan was tearing down the wall.

My brother is a fireman and staunch republican. He was degrading clinton and my father told him he made the most money ever under clinton. my brother about shit.My father worked for a company in middletown,ohio that did a lot of work for Pratt and whitney and also general dynamics. The built the heat shield for the first apollo and also he personally built the back blast plate for the 747 that in 1974 would of cost 500,000 if he screwed up. He was the boss of chris carter's aunt and also a cousin who o'ded on drugs.

[Kermit]

Heard Meryll Streep slammed MMA, the NFL, and Trump at the Golden Globes.

[rkelly110]

Heard Meryll Streep slammed MMA, the NFL, and Trump at the Golden Globes.

Yeah and what does your twitter in chief do? Slams her. Hey, if you can't take the heat, GTFO of the kitchen!
70 yo fukking crybaby.

[thetrinity]

Kelly explain how those first half fgs would have made USC cover, I'll be waiting until I'm in hospice probably.

[rkelly110]

Kelly explain how those first half fgs would have made USC cover, I'll be waiting until I'm in hospice probably.

Since you aren't too bright, I'll oblige you. What was the score just before USC kicked the winning field goal?
Tied at 49. What was the line? 7.5. Field goals are worth 3 points, just so you know. Had USC made those 2
missed field goals and in the closing seconds kicked another. They would've won by 9 points covering the 7.5.

I'll expect a few points for wasting my time.

[jt315]

Heard Meryll Streep slammed MMA, the NFL, and Trump at the Golden Globes.

Could there be a group further disconnected from reality ?
Their act is growing old.
Get over it.

[DwightShrute]

truth

[reigle9]

Since you aren't too bright, I'll oblige you. What was the score just before USC kicked the winning field goal?
Tied at 49. What was the line? 7.5. Field goals are worth 3 points, just so you know. Had USC made those 2
missed field goals and in the closing seconds kicked another. They would've won by 9 points covering the 7.5.

I'll expect a few points for wasting my time.

And if psu wouldn't have thrown picks and fumbled the opening kick, they never would've been down. Wtf are you talking about? None of those things matter. It's like losing by 40 and saying, well if they just wouldve converted 6 other possessions into td's they would've won.

Nothing is more annoying than when stupid people try to talk down to others.

[DwightShrute]

[itchypickle]

Could there be a group further disconnected from reality ?
Their act is growing old.
Get over it.

Nobody would even know the event took place if it wasn't for the annual political speeches to make news. And people act shocked that those idiots are anti trump....it's the liberal bubble apart from America that lost the election for them. I'm glad so many liberals congregate and self segregate in NYC and LA and then wonder why they'll keep losing elections to the rest of the country.

[itchypickle]

Wow..just swiped on my phone and headline that's posted under news alert 🚨 reads from CNN "Trump attacks Streep on Globes speech"

Sad....I'm sure they want to say "police attacked Esteban Santiago after he exited his flight"

[reigle9]

NYC and LA and then wonder why they'll keep losing elections to the rest of the country.

Cause...popular vote!!!

[itchypickle]

Cause...popular vote!!!

Yup

[chico2663]

Nobody would even know the event took place if it wasn't for the annual political speeches to make news. And people act shocked that those idiots are anti trump....it's the liberal bubble apart from America that lost the election for them. I'm glad so many liberals congregate and self segregate in NYC and LA and then wonder why they'll keep losing elections to the rest of the country.

I can honestly say I have never watched that shit.

[rkelly110]

And if psu wouldn't have thrown picks and fumbled the opening kick, they never would've been down. Wtf are you talking about? None of those things matter. It's like losing by 40 and saying, well if they just wouldve converted 6 other possessions into td's they would've won.

Nothing is more annoying than when stupid people try to talk down to others.

He called me out on my reasoning and I obliged. Why your dumbass is responding IDK.

[itchypickle]

I can honestly say I have never watched that shit.

Pretty sure that goes for anyone that's not in the industry or family members. Basically just chance to pat themselves on back.

[reigle9]

He called me out on my reasoning and I obliged. Why your dumbass is responding IDK.

I'm gonna go with, it's the only thread that gets bumped daily that I pay attention to. And it's a message board.

Fukking insane, I know.