No planes on 9-11-01

[Ebe]

How do you explain the flashes in the youtube video I posted

such an obvious demolition

Cant believe we really have to go over this

[jtoler]

My main problem with the 911 truthers is that they demand for investigations even though investigations have already occurred. It was the most investigated event in history. Even when their theories are investigated and proved false, they just demand more investigations and claim the investigators are in on it....

What investigation? They spent more money trying to get Clinton impeached than this "investigation". There is no mention of building 7 in the 9/11 Commission Report.

[Ebe]

Thats ok tho it doesnt matter jtoler

Because on the news they told us it was Osama Bin Laden

So its gotta be

None of this matters

The government never lies or misleads, you know that

[jtoler]

I do believe that fight 93 was shot down in Pennsylvania. I live very close to where that plane went down and heard numerous witnesses accounts on our local TV networks and they all had similar stories about fireballs on the jet in the sky and fighter jets seen around it. Then the whole story about the passengers taking over the plane and crashing it surfaced which I honestly do not believe. Not to mention that it went down in the middle of nowhere.

I can't deny that if I had to make the call that I would have shot that plane down as well instead of reaching it's intended target.

[BigDofBA]

Bombs were supposedly planted in the twin towers to help bring them down is the conspiracy theory suggested after the planes already hit.. Which doesn't make any sense..

In demolition they detonate explosives at the base of structures on up all the time, explosives are places at the bottom strong points of the building structure first and then the entire structure then collapses from the bottom area on up.. The twin towers when they came tumbling down was from top to bottom and the starting point was from place of plane impact....

Hense bomb theory debunked in the twin towers....

Exactly. It wasn't a controlled demolition and that is the key to the entire conspiracy.

What happend on 911 isn't what a demolition looks like and that's not how a demolition happens. You don't see "explosions" after the building starts collapsing.....Those weren't true explosions anyway. It was simply air pressure escaping the building at the weakest points of resistance as the building start collapsing floor by floor.

To go along with this charade and ask another question that people won't answer, why would they bring the buildings down with a controlled demolition anyway? What would the motive be? After the planes hit, there were already mass causalities. Why did they stop there, why didn't they just nuke the city too?

I'm still waiting on an answer as to who flew the planes into the building if it was an inside job. I've answer some of the BS questions yet no one will answer me.

People need to learn basic science and architecture. Instead they just keep asking stupid questions like how do you explain this, how do you explain that? When we answer these questions they don't want to hear the truth.

[Ebe]

Why didnt they nuke the city he said

Way to add credibility to your argument

[jtoler]

In the video above the anchor mentions the Governor Tom Ridge of Pennsylvania who Bush right after created a spot for him as Head of Homeland Security.

[BigDofBA]

That's really the main conspiracy theory that I'm still uncertain about. In New York and Washington there was debris despite what people tell you.

In Pennsylvania there was hardly nothing. Really? A plane crashes in an open field and there is nothing?

It would make perfect sense if the government shot it down to save other lives on the ground. It would also make sense if the government made up some story about how the passengers were all heroes and made a movie about them.

I think I read somewhere that the crater in the ground was already there but it's the internet and I haven't validated that info.

[BigDofBA]

Why didnt they nuke the city he said

Way to add credibility to your argument

I've presented you with a ton of factual information about how things actually work. I've also answered several of your questions. Can you at least tell me who you think flew the planes or why they would use a demolition to bring the buildings down despite the fact that several people had already died?

You have no argument. People prove you wrong and you google shit to copy and past and then tell everyone you're know it all.

[JIBBBY]

Debunked again..

[Ebe]

I believe its possible the planes were remote controlled. It is within our technological capability to do so.

[BigDofBA]

I believe its possible the planes were remote controlled. It is within our technological capability to do so.

Thank you. I'm not going to hate on you if you give me "your" reasoning.

If the planes were remote controlled, were there no pilots or passengers?

[brainfreeze]

Exactly. It wasn't a controlled demolition and that is the key to the entire conspiracy.

What happend on 911 isn't what a demolition looks like and that's not how a demolition happens. You don't see "explosions" after the building starts collapsing.....Those weren't true explosions anyway. It was simply air pressure escaping the building at the weakest points of resistance as the building start collapsing floor by floor.

To go along with this charade and ask another question that people won't answer, why would they bring the buildings down with a controlled demolition anyway? What would the motive be? After the planes hit, there were already mass causalities. Why did they stop there, why didn't they just nuke the city too?

I'm still waiting on an answer as to who flew the planes into the building if it was an inside job. I've answer some of the BS questions yet no one will answer me.

People need to learn basic science and architecture. Instead they just keep asking stupid questions like how do you explain this, how do you explain that? When we answer these questions they don't want to hear the truth.

its all good, and syrian refugees are your friends. Both bushes didn't work with Hussein or ben Ladin and these " radical elements ". Bill cooper didn't call all this and who they were going to blame MONTHS BEFORE. It's not all about the buildings, well beyond it. You can act as if this all didn't happen, and just go with the story.

[JIBBBY]

Exactly. It wasn't a controlled demolition and that is the key to the entire conspiracy.

What happend on 911 isn't what a demolition looks like and that's not how a demolition happens. You don't see "explosions" after the building starts collapsing.....Those weren't true explosions anyway. It was simply air pressure escaping the building at the weakest points of resistance as the building start collapsing floor by floor.

To go along with this charade and ask another question that people won't answer, why would they bring the buildings down with a controlled demolition anyway? What would the motive be? After the planes hit, there were already mass causalities. Why did they stop there, why didn't they just nuke the city too?

I'm still waiting on an answer as to who flew the planes into the building if it was an inside job. I've answer some of the BS questions yet no one will answer me.

People need to learn basic science and architecture. Instead they just keep asking stupid questions like how do you explain this, how do you explain that? When we answer these questions they don't want to hear the truth.

You get it.. Bombs in twin towers completely debunked..

[sourtwist]

Sad that not one know it all in here has mentioned one of the keys to this puzzle

Dov zakheim


You fukks still have no clue

[sourtwist]

Something called common sense

Dont even wast your time. People simply can't face the things that hurt them the most.

Cognitive dissonance.

[Ebe]

Astonishing to me how dumb people are

It really truly is

When I say that Im not trying to be an insulting prick

Its the sad truth

[Ebe]

its all good, and syrian refugees are your friends. Both bushes didn't work with Hussein or ben Ladin and these " radical elements ". Bill cooper didn't call all this and who they were going to blame MONTHS BEFORE. It's not all about the buildings, well beyond it. You can act as if this all didn't happen, and just go with the story.

The truth could hit these people in the face and they would never believe it or understand.

Theyve truly been brainwashed. This is hopeless.

[sourtwist]

Well, I've been toying around here for a while to see if I can open some eyes... Hasn't worked. People are too weak to understand.

[Ebe]

Amazing how they are somehow willing to dismiss the obvious

And the funniest part of it all is when they ridicule the enlightened ones for trying to open their stupid eyes

[jtoler]

Sad that not one know it all in here has mentioned one of the keys to this puzzle

Dov zakheim


You fukks still have no clue

I brought up about him pages ago but not one "official narrative believer" knew anything about what I was referring to. Didnt even want to get into this discussion but the game was boring.

[Ebe]

It seems reasonable to them that these steel buildings just all of a sudden collapsed into their own footprint at free fall speeds, causing clouds exactly like what is seen when NASA launches a rocket or when nano thermite is used.

[Ebe]

Astounding.

[Ebe]

But lets just forget the fact that its aerodynamically impossible for a plane to travel at 600 mph just feet off the ground.

Also lets dismiss thats there no footage of a plane hitting the pentagon.

Oh yea also theres no wreckage of a plane or any bodies in Pennsylvania.

But none of this weird.

Because CNN told us it was Bin Laden.

[sourtwist]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.rense.com/general75/latest.htm&ved=0ahUKEwjSoIvgwPbJAhXEwiYKHRSKB-oQFghiMBI&usg=AFQjCNEgzanPDbmYyMwxgiuw_ar_9tiJ6w

Here's zakheim info

At one point was a ceo of a remote piloting system

Face facts, or continue lying to yourself and your families

Learn, or stfu

[Ebe]

Lets also dismiss all the eyewitness accounts of explosions, etc

They're all crazy liars

But these SBR Posters know what happened, because thats what they heard on the news. Lord knows the government never lies. Why would they? They have nothing to hide.

So I guess that covers that

[Ebe]

Lets also dismiss all the put options stocks bought on United and American Airlines

Another coincidence of course

Also Silverstein made billions, but hes just lucky

And the fact that he admitted to "pulling" the building is not strange at all either considering the official story claims Building 7 was brought down as a result of being weakened by the collapse of the other 2 buildings

Once again none of this is weird tho

[Ebe]

How stupid and blind can you penetrating be

Serious you people should be ashamed of yourselves

You're so dumb its penetrating disgraceful

Let that sink in for a second

[sourtwist]

I brought up about him pages ago but not one "official narrative believer" knew anything about what I was referring to. Didnt even want to get into this discussion but the game was boring.

It's sometimes pointless, they just don't want to hear it from someone else

They think fact and conspiracy are one and the same

I didn't see your post, must have missed it, happy that your eyes are open

This guy zakheim is the key to everything that happened that day

[BigDofBA]

Some truthers say that no planes crashed into the towers even though my friend that lives in Manhattan saw it.....

Some truthers say remote control planes crashed into the planes.....Which is it?

If remote control planes did crash into the WTC I have the following questions

- What happened to American Airlines Flight 111 that took off from Logan? Did it just disappear? What happened to the passengers?
- What happened to United Flight 175? Did it just disappear? What happened to the passengers?
- Truthers claim the plains had no markings even though it's impossible to see. Why would the government go through such lengths to cover anything up and not bother to paint the plains to disguise them?

The truth of the matter is that the "majority" of architects and engineers have debunked the 911 theories. Sure, there is a small handful that have signed on but that is a very minuscule amount of people in the field. In other words, with 99% of the people in the field disagree. With that said, every field has morons and nutjobs so it's not surprising.

I've provided facts about why I don't think it was a controlled demolition but you guys don't want to hear them.

The problem is that a lot of people spend a few hours on the internet and think they understand physics and engineering. LMAO. There is reason why you goto universities to become educated in these fields. Obviously none of you guys have a degree in any of these ares.

If you want to believe it was an inside job, I'll respect your opinion but I totally disagree. There are several suspicious things about 911 that you guys aren't even mentioning. I'm more interested in the plain in Pennsylvania and why our President just sat there for 20 minutes after hearing the country was under attack.

So yes, there is a lot of weird things about that day but some of these things we keep talking about seem pretty elementary if you stop and think logically.

[Fidel_CashFlow]

im just glad we are getting to the bottom of this on Christmas Day

[sourtwist]

Planes hit or not, there's a lot more to it. I'll turn your world upside down if you have an open mind. Don't be scared to learn the truth about your leaders.

[jtoler]

Some truthers say that no planes crashed into the towers even though my friend that lives in Manhattan saw it.....

Some truthers say remote control planes crashed into the planes.....Which is it?

If remote control planes did crash into the WTC I have the following questions

- What happened to American Airlines Flight 111 that took off from Logan? Did it just disappear? What happened to the passengers?
- What happened to United Flight 175? Did it just disappear? What happened to the passengers?
- Truthers claim the plains had no markings even though it's impossible to see. Why would the government go through such lengths to cover anything up and not bother to paint the plains to disguise them?

The truth of the matter is that the "majority" of architects and engineers have debunked the 911 theories. Sure, there is a small handful that have signed on but that is a very minuscule amount of people in the field. In other words, with 99% of the people in the field disagree. With that said, every field has morons and nutjobs so it's not surprising.

I've provided facts about why I don't think it was a controlled demolition but you guys don't want to hear them.

The problem is that a lot of people spend a few hours on the internet and think they understand physics and engineering. LMAO. There is reason why you goto universities to become educated in these fields. Obviously none of you guys have a degree in any of these ares.

If you want to believe it was an inside job, I'll respect your opinion but I totally disagree. There are several suspicious things about 911 that you guys aren't even mentioning. I'm more interested in the plain in Pennsylvania and why our President just sat there for 20 minutes after hearing the country was under attack.

So yes, there is a lot of weird things about that day but some of these things we keep talking about seem pretty elementary if you stop and think logically.

There are many thousands who dont believe the official narrative.
Doubt the majority of those are nutjobs and would put their reputations on the line.

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core.html

http://patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html

http://www.mo911truth.org/

http://patriotsquestion911.com/

[sourtwist]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it&ved=0ahUKEwi33NLQxPbJAhWKQSYKHRhCDYk4ChAWCFMwEA&usg=AFQjCNGS2EMMo9JfOokFI11FnwxDLx55Pg

Debunk these Facts before trying to say that 9/11 was not an inside job

No conversation should be had without knowing who the potential players are, same as not making a wager without knowing who is in starting lineup

[BigDofBA]

I've read a lot into this several times and came to my own conclusions.

I have an open mind. If someone can prove something to me and it's logical, I can change.

With that said, no one has really been able to do that or answer any of my questions and lot of these theories aren't consistent and contradict themselves. A lot of these theories are not backed by science and a lot of the claims are flat out lies that people take as gospel.

I think the planes are a big part of. According to 911 truthers, hijackers didn't do it. If that's the case, I just want to know who did and what happened to all of the passengers. The problem is, I get a lot of misinformation like the planes were remote controlled government planes. If that's the case what happened to the real planes and people that took off from Logan? They couldn't have just disappeared.

Do you see how none of the conspiracy theory makes sense if you really look at things and think about? You can't just watch a 2 hour documentary or spend an hour reading theories online. People make claims that just aren't true.

Was there a bunch of weird shit that happened that day, yes there was. Does it mean it was an inside job, no it doesn't.

To me there are two critical facts.

1) Planes did hit the towers - Anyone who argues otherwise loses credibility with everything they say and I will believe none of their theories.

2) It was not a controlled demolition that brought the towers down. Demolitions don't look or sound that way...well, they look that way to the average person but in reality that's not how it happens.

So using the two facts above, it really comes down to who flew the plains into the buildings because that is ultimately what caused them to come down.

Also, I do look big picture. One of the stranger things to me as the high trading of put options prior to 911. I think it's feasible someone knew an attack was imminent but that does not mean it was an inside job. Those things are more questionable to me then this elementary stuff like were we watching animation or remote control air planes.