What the Hell is going on in Ferguson, Missouri?

[scumbag]

Most fanatical cop haters are misfits with long criminal histories. They blame law enforcement instead of taking responsibility for their own actions.

I'm not implying that there aren't douchey cops out there because there clearly are but ultra-venomous cop haters are blind in their hatred and speak before gathering facts.

That's a stupid point.

Im im not a felon.

I'm a guy who is murderously angry when I see a cop:

1. Beat the fck out of a mentally ill woman on the side of a freeway.
2. Cops kill some homeless guy, seemingly for fun
3. Choke out some black and kill him
4. Sedate a guy and shove a fcking camera up his ass to try and find a non existent drug stash.

Or when they take all your money because they can.

when they come breaking into your residence and throw a flashbang in you daughters crip and blow her face off, then tell you to "sit the fck down, your kid is fine"

I can go on and on.

All cops can suck on my fcking balls.

now, you might say, "this kid is fcking nuts all cops aren't bad".

i say, fck you. While yes, most cops aren't victimizing the citizens they claim to protect. They don't rat out the bad cops, so they're just as bad.

fwiw, cops have treated me fine in my interactions. They pulled me over once when I was like 22 in north town, drunk as fck with a bag of weed in my pocket. They just made me stomp the weed out and let me go.

But I'm not a moron. Just because they treat me well, a Mormon looking white with no record. I'm certain they'd never let a black walk in that spot.

well idiots, that's white privilege.

[recon1]

Kraken is an admitted druggie

You can't expect him to think clearly

Oh, he's one of those? explains his hate for police. I'll bet if you dropped krack off in this same neighborhood with a cell phone he would be calling police within 10 minutes begging anybody to protect his lilly white ass. Probably a delusional drug addict thats had his stash taken by the police, so he harbors ill feelings and sticks by fellow criminals. Hopefully his employer does a drug test.

[scumbag]

Oh, he's one of those? explains his hate for police. I'll bet if you dropped krack off in this same neighborhood with a cell phone he would be calling police within 10 minutes begging anybody to protect his lilly white ass. Probably a delusional drug addict thats had his stash taken by the police, so he harbors ill feelings and sticks by fellow criminals. Hopefully his employer does a drug test.

Oh ya, those cops will sure protect you.

Until a columbine breaks out and they sit outside like cu,nts intead of putting their lives at risk, storming the school and kill whoever the fck is in there with guns.

\*\*\*\*\*\* fcking cops are no heroes. Imagine if a fireman refused to go into a burning building to save people.

these cop shooting are so prevalent because these cu.nts will shoot you down if they "feel" you pose any threat to them.

cops job is to protect themselves. Pussy non heroes.

[scumbag]

Oh, he's one of those? explains his hate for police. I'll bet if you dropped krack off in this same neighborhood with a cell phone he would be calling police within 10 minutes begging anybody to protect his lilly white ass. Probably a delusional drug addict thats had his stash taken by the police, so he harbors ill feelings and sticks by fellow criminals. Hopefully his employer does a drug test.

This jagoff calls himself a libertarian, from what I recall in politics. Now he's saying he supports an employer invading someone's privacy.

quite inconsistent.

[jtoler]

That's a stupid point.

Im im not a felon.

I'm a guy who is murderously angry when I see a cop:

1. Beat the fck out of a mentally ill woman on the side of a freeway.
2. Cops kill some homeless guy, seemingly for fun
3. Choke out some black and kill him
4. Sedate a guy and shove a fcking camera up his ass to try and find a non existent drug stash.

Or when they take all your money because they can.

when they come breaking into your residence and throw a flashbang in you daughters crip and blow her face off, then tell you to "sit the fck down, your kid is fine"

I can go on and on.

All cops can suck on my fcking balls.

now, you might say, "this kid is fcking nuts all cops aren't bad".

i say, fck you. While yes, most cops aren't victimizing the citizens they claim to protect. They don't rat out the bad cops, so they're just as bad.

fwiw, cops have treated me fine in my interactions. They pulled me over once when I was like 22 in north town, drunk as fck with a bag of weed in my pocket. They just made me stomp the weed out and let me go.

But I'm not a moron. Just because they treat me well, a Mormon looking white with no record. I'm certain they'd never let a black walk in that spot.

well idiots, that's white privilege.

Youre spot on, Im not a felon either, no record, whatever I have is from traffic tickets. And wow my experience is the total opposite of yours. The questions Ive been asked would blow your mind, I was pulled over earlier this year for not putting on a turn signal to get in the adjacent lane, nevermind it was late and nobody was on the road I was on, there was no car ahead or behind me for at least a half a mile, I mean nobody, made no sense to me to put the signal on so I didnt, but fine, if the law says youre supposed to do it ok. I was on my way home from work, while pulled over the cop asks me for license and insurance papers, I give, starts conversating, asks twice if I do drugs, I say no and asks why he asks, he doesnt answer, asks if he can search car, I say no, asks a 3rd time if I do drugs, I say no and I point blank tell him ya know if I had been a 60 yr old white lady you wouldnt be asking me this after pulling me over for a simple turn signal violation, well he says he would still ask, lol. Anyway he has me on the side of the road for about 25 minutes during this whole time, finally writes the ticket and I go home, was only 3 blocks from my house, nice small city I live in, no drug activity, in fact I live two blocks from this cop's precinct, but thats only one story, stuff like that has happened about 7 times, theyve even asked to search my car and after Ive said no once they still called another cop who got out with a german shepherd and did the old walk around, well thats equivalent to searching to me, oh my had I say had a bag of weed on the seat and he saw it(dont smoke weed but) no doubt Id be arrested, car impounded and given multiple tickets, that would result in quite a bit of money not to mention court costs and Id have a felony record, there would be no stomping out the weed and letting me go.

[Kermit]

I can agree that there may be "white privilege" in some cases, but black people get away with shit sometimes too. If there is such a thing as white privilege as far as getting away with crimes, I would like to know where my get away with anything card is.

But there is also "black privilege" that no one likes to talk about. For example, can you imagine a group of white protestors gathering outside of some major sporting event and marching and chanting "Who do we want? Al Sharpton! How do we want him? Dead!"

Black people can get away with things that white people would be chastised across the board for.

[Fidel_CashFlow]

you all are fukkin insane if you think the majority of cops are really here to protect and serve
And to top it off, cops have been robbing people for years now, and its only getting worse each day
I really do think it comes down to what paths in life you have had to walk, or scenarios you have seen
You can combine that with instances of what you see on the news and online , but nothing compares to real life experiences

[jtoler]

you all are fukkin insane if you think the majority of cops are really here to protect and serve
And to top it off, cops have been robbing people for years now, and its only getting worse each day
I really do think it comes down to what paths in life you have had to walk, or scenarios you have seen
You can combine that with instances of what you see on the news and online , but nothing compares to real life experiences

I had money taking from me from a cop before, long story, but it happened.

[scumbag]

Shameful shit toler.

it does seem like a lot of the ignorance from the simpleton crowd comes from a "well, they treat me fine."

we can only hope a couple of the clowns around here get there bank rolls seized with the outrageous civil forfeiture laws. (Which disproportionately effect minorities, but some whites get caught up in that shit too)

maybe then these idiots will wake the fck up and realize we live in a police state and have no freedom. And it's every one who is at risk, not just blacks.

[jtoler]

you all are fukkin insane if you think the majority of cops are really here to protect and serve
And to top it off, cops have been robbing people for years now, and its only getting worse each day
I really do think it comes down to what paths in life you have had to walk, or scenarios you have seen
You can combine that with instances of what you see on the news and online , but nothing compares to real life experiences

I had money stolen from me from a cop before, long story, but it happened.

[scumbag]

Can we also agree that anyone aggressively defending the cop is clearly a racist?

and I'm not talking about someone who simply says "let the facts come out". But these aggressive defenders that we've all seen.

Obvious racists. They almost seem to relish in it.

[Let's Go Rangers]

Sure are a lot of whiny bitchs hating on cops on this page

[jtoler]

The good ole boys in blue.

[Kermit]

One of my most favorable memories from my youth was when I was 17(back in 1991). I was drinking with my friends and we stopped at a Texaco and I went behind the station to piss. Some drunk guy walking down the street assaulted me because he claimed I was pissing in his front yard(He lived a few blocks away) I got into a fight with this guy and it escalated towards the pumps. My friends took off in their car and left me there(Looking back, I can't blame them).

Cops show up and arrest me(I lied and said I was 18) and let the other guy go. I get to the Police station and am riding up in the elevator with 4 cops and ask them "You guys are not going to kick my as in here are you?"(I had always heard rumors that they beat up drunks in the elevator) They just laughed. When we got to the third floor, they took off my shoes(They said it was to make sure that I didn't hang myself with my laces) and put me in cell #3. When I walked into it, there was dried blood smeared all over the walls and the steel painted bed had "Hail Satan 666" carved on it. I was in disbelief.

Afte a few hours a very large black cop named Officer Soloman (who everyone in the neighborhood knew) walked past my cell. I climbed up on the bars so that I was face to face with him and said "Yo my man, when do I get to make my first phone call?" He laughed and replied "White boy, you watched too many movies"

[Fidel_CashFlow]

Rangers, you prevent people from holding a legible conversation man.
Plus this does not involve racism or Obama so im surprised you have a opinion at all .
Listen to whatt scumbag is saying about civil forfeiture and get back to us once your done.
I love it when people say, yeah you hate the cops until you are in need for one .
LOL LOL LOL, I could keep laughing at that but it would only get more annoying.
Help us ? When in need? The hell do the cops actually help someone while they are in need.
90% of the time, if not more its only after the fact. Most of the time the person who saves you in a life threatening situation is well.... you ... or someone with you , or luck . Even cops themselves will tell you this
Cuz it sure the hell isnt the cops, they are there to go after the criminals once the damage is done with.

Seems like a lot of people have lived sheltered lives,
cuz in the world that I know this shit that they present to us is only a mirage and nothing more.
Sounds pessimistic but its the damn truth .... you think I want it this way? I wish I could go back to
being a clueless goofball who thought the government and our very own police really cared about us
There are some great cops out there, no doubt about that, but we are talking about the organization as a whole.
Its more corrupt then possibly the F.D.A and the government.

[Kermit]

Can we also agree that anyone aggressively defending the cop is clearly a racist?

and I'm not talking about someone who simply says "let the facts come out". But these aggressive defenders that we've all seen.

Obvious racists. They almost seem to relish in it.

My younger brother and his friend were sleeping out on my parents front porch when they were younger and they decided to go to a convenience store(well after curfew) a few blocks away and a cop followed them home and put his lights on and they ran. he got out of the car and chased them. My brother's friend got caught and my brother made it home and hide under the swing on my parents front porch and the cop came right to the house and found him(Thanks to his friend that got caught).

They tried to charge my brother with a some bullshit that the cop had a heart condition and he put the officer's life at stake. It got ugly.

This isn't a black vs white or white vs black problem. I just think that everyone needs to stop doing the dumb shit that is the root of the problem.

[Fidel_CashFlow]

lol Kermit, who knows where this thread is going to go
I hate even talkin like this
I know it makes you look like an asshole when you say shit like that about our police force in America
Even though its hard to swallow, its pretty easy to understand once you start to look at it in this perspective.

Anything where there is some sort of power or control involve, is going to become corrupt eventually.
I will save the psycho babble but its all a part of the flaws in being a human being.......

[Let's Go Rangers]

^
Dumb shit...
Like slamming a cops door on him, assaulting him and trying to grab his gun

[Kermit]

Rangers, you prevent people from holding a legible conversation man.
Plus this does not involve racism or Obama so im surprised you have a opinion at all .
Listen to whatt scumbag is saying about civil forfeiture and get back to us once your done.
I love it when people say, yeah you hate the cops until you are in need for one .
LOL LOL LOL, I could keep laughing at that but it would only get more annoying.
Help us ? When in need? The hell do the cops actually help someone while they are in need.
90% of the time, if not more its only after the fact. Most of the time the person who saves you in a life threatening situation is well.... you ... or someone with you , or luck . Even cops themselves will tell you this
Cuz it sure the hell isnt the cops, they are there to go after the criminals once the damage is done with.

Seems like a lot of people have lived sheltered lives,
cuz in the world that I know this shit that they present to us is only a mirage and nothing more.
Sounds pessimistic but its the damn truth .... you think I want it this way? I wish I could go back to
being a clueless goofball who thought the government and our very own police really cared about us
There are some great cops out there, no doubt about that, but we are talking about the organization as a whole.
Its more corrupt then possibly the F.D.A and the government.

I don't think that it is so much the fact that cops will come and save your life as it is that the actual knowing that a "presence" of them exists that will deter some possible would-be criminals from breaking into your home and stealing your shit, or God forbid killing you while you were sleeping.

I know that cops can suck ass, but I couldn't imagine what our country would be like without some type of authority related force in place.

While I don't agree with everything that they do, I sure in the Hell wouldn't want that kind of job.

[jtoler]

lol Kermit, who knows where this thread is going to go
I hate even talkin like this
I know it makes you look like an asshole when you say shit like that about our police force in America
Even though its hard to swallow, its pretty easy to understand once you start to look at it in this perspective.

Anything where there is some sort of power or control involve, is going to become corrupt eventually.
I will save the psycho babble but its all a part of the flaws in being a human being.......

I agree, power is worth more than money even, when in the wrong hands it causes alot more hell.

[Kermit]

lol Kermit, who knows where this thread is going to go
I hate even talkin like this
I know it makes you look like an asshole when you say shit like that about our police force in America
Even though its hard to swallow, its pretty easy to understand once you start to look at it in this perspective.

Anything where there is some sort of power or control involve, is going to become corrupt eventually.
I will save the psycho babble but its all a part of the flaws in being a human being.......

You know what though man, even though there are some really fukked up corrupt cops out there, there are more cops out there that are just guys like you and me that just want to live our lives the best we can.

[jtoler]

I don't think that it is so much the fact that cops will come and save your life as it is that the actual knowing that a "presence" of them exists that will deter some possible would-be criminals from breaking into your home and stealing your shit, or God forbid killing you while you were sleeping.

I know that cops can suck ass, but I couldn't imagine what our country would be like without some type of authority related force in place.

While I don't agree with everything that they do, I sure in the Hell wouldn't want that kind of job.

They need better training, better psychological training and it should take more than a high school education to be one, that would limit the amount of cops, but paying them more would perhaps make it more of a wanted profession I guess.

[scumbag]

I find it funny when people say what a hard job it is. Can't be that hard, they won't hire you if you have an IQ over 120 in most departments. Can't be that hard. At least the people hiring don't seem to think so. They want order taking sheep not the best of the best that can think on their feet.

[Kermit]

I find it funny when people say what a hard job it is. Can't be that hard, they won't hire you if you have an IQ over 120 in most departments. Can't be that hard. At least the people hiring don't seem to think so. They want order taking sheep not the best of the best that can think on their feet.

It is mentally hard job. Not everyone is a people person, and with being a cop, that should be the #1 requirement. I am great with people, but it would be hard for me to deal with the same shit on a day to day basis, not to mention some of the horrible shit that they have to see.

[scumbag]

Sure are a lot of whiny bitchs hating on cops on this page

This guy claims to be a former cop, he is a known racist, everyone should know that when listening to anything this disgrace says.

[Fidel_CashFlow]

I don't think that it is so much the fact that cops will come and save your life as it is that the actual knowing that a "presence" of them exists that will deter some possible would-be criminals from breaking into your home and stealing your shit, or God forbid killing you while you were sleeping.

I know that cops can suck ass, but I couldn't imagine what our country would be like without some type of authority related force in place.

While I don't agree with everything that they do, I sure in the Hell wouldn't want that kind of job.

Yeah that is a good point. It would be worse if there was none at all, no doubt about that Kermit

[scumbag]

It is mentally hard job. Not everyone is a people person, and with being a cop, that should be the #1 requirement.

For sure, as far as seeing terrible shit day in, day out. That would be tough.

[Kermit]

They need better training, better psychological training and it should take more than a high school education to be one, that would limit the amount of cops, but paying them more would perhaps make it more of a wanted profession I guess.

110% agree with everything that you wrote. Problem is that being a cop just isn't a desired position. I would't want to be a cop if I made double the money that I make now.

[Fidel_CashFlow]

I agree, power is worth more than money even, when in the wrong hands it causes alot more hell.

They need better training, better psychological training and it should take more than a high school education to be one, that would limit the amount of cops, but paying them more would perhaps make it more of a wanted profession I guess.

think you and Kermit are doing a good job at keeping it real without insulting who opposes your beliefs.
Its also refreshing to see you all mention something that might not favor your viewpoint,
but not be scared to say it only cuz it does not strengthen your original opinion on the matter. Much props for that.


To farther what I was saying though, its not like I blame all the cops individually.
Its kinda like our soldiers(who I respect) , they are just taking orders from the big men in charge.
Not everything they do is correct, but usually if its a directive they are going to follow it

[Kermit]

I'm just a regular guy, I am not rich, I don't have any special privileges or anything. I live right along side whites, blacks, and one Hispanic family. we all get along just fine. In the area where we all live, we are all treated the same by the cops. It's not the Ghetto, but it's not the rich end that is up on the eastern hill either. Only people here getting their heads thumped are the criminals and none of us are complaining.

[scumbag]

that maybe true kermit, where you live.

but try and exercise a constitutional right by assembling and peacefully protesting some injustice. they'll probably come fck you up then.

or if they stop you after a nice weekend betting the games, you beat your bookie out of 7K, your coming home, get stopped by cop, he asks you if you have any weapons, drugs, or money in the car. Your like, "hey, im a decent guy, no criminal, i have some money." cops says, "oh ya, how much" at this point any sane human being would see him salivating and say, "20 bucks". lets assume youre some rube, "a few thousand."

thank you very much the cops says as he's taking your roll.

if they are running some drug warrant based off of the lies of a confidential informant on your next door neighbor, i hope they dont hit the wrong house, as they have a tendency to do. because you seem like an ok guy in our limited interaction.

i must admit. i find this whole thing kind of funny. on paper, you'd think the whole less gov crowd would fcking hate cops. they don't. "cops is good they protect us from dem animal blacks."

[Fidel_CashFlow]

Ur pretty fortunate if its like that where you stay Kerm
Guess I tend to sum it all up as a whole, so no isolated story/instance is going to have much of a overall impact to me
From the things I have seen in my life, whether directly involved in or from a bystanders perspective
have not been good of police, but im sure a lot of people would of already guessed that from my posts on this subject.
I have seen some truly dishonorable things happen all because they simply had the power to do so .
Agendas taken out on people, personal reasons or even monetary motives behind it.
And at the same time have experienced some down to earth and for the most part nice/genuine officers as well.

I have seen a huge collection of videos over the internet and the news of cases involving police
some good, but undoubtedly far more bad, so any one good or bad thing a cop ends up doing
is not going to sway my opinion to much either way on the state of our Police here in America.
I think that the bad/corrupt cases heavily outweigh the good/prestigious cases overall.
So thats why you see the constant reiteration when I speak my feelings on our police forces
is because im making a decision based on all the collective shit Ive seen in real life and media as one whole organization

Unfortunately this takes away a bit from all the great officers out there,
the ones that really do live by the code "protect and serve" and are genuine about their responsibilities
that come with the privilege of being a police officer
Ive noticed a lot of people that disagree with the police usually tend to favor when a cop is killed
That makes no sense to me, the goal is for no one to die?
Bothers me a lot more when a cop is killed then a person who was being sought for a crime, even if its something
as small as theft of a blunt wrap (like in Michael Browns case) leads them to being shot and killed.
Still, its going to take a lot more instances of seeing something positive before my opinion changes

[jbart28]

that maybe true kermit, where you live.

but try and exercise a constitutional right by assembling and peacefully protesting some injustice. they'll probably come fck you up then.

or if they stop you after a nice weekend betting the games, you beat your bookie out of 7K, your coming home, get stopped by cop, he asks you if you have any weapons, drugs, or money in the car. Your like, "hey, im a decent guy, no criminal, i have some money." cops says, "oh ya, how much" at this point any sane human being would see him salivating and say, "20 bucks". lets assume youre some rube, "a few thousand."

thank you very much the cops says as he's taking your roll.

if they are running some drug warrant based off of the lies of a confidential informant on your next door neighbor, i hope they dont hit the wrong house, as they have a tendency to do. because you seem like an ok guy in our limited interaction.

i must admit. i find this whole thing kind of funny. on paper, you'd think the whole less gov crowd would fcking hate cops. they don't. "cops is good they protect us from dem animal blacks."

This is interesting. SO scumbag, what % of law enforcement do you consider to be corrupt or evil or whatever?

What % of muslims do you consider to be evil? (best guess)

[jbart28]

that maybe true kermit, where you live.

but try and exercise a constitutional right by assembling and peacefully protesting some injustice. they'll probably come fck you up then.

or if they stop you after a nice weekend betting the games, you beat your bookie out of 7K, your coming home, get stopped by cop, he asks you if you have any weapons, drugs, or money in the car. Your like, "hey, im a decent guy, no criminal, i have some money." cops says, "oh ya, how much" at this point any sane human being would see him salivating and say, "20 bucks". lets assume youre some rube, "a few thousand."

thank you very much the cops says as he's taking your roll.

if they are running some drug warrant based off of the lies of a confidential informant on your next door neighbor, i hope they dont hit the wrong house, as they have a tendency to do. because you seem like an ok guy in our limited interaction.

i must admit. i find this whole thing kind of funny. on paper, you'd think the whole less gov crowd would fcking hate cops. they don't. "cops is good they protect us from dem animal blacks."

This is interesting. SO scumbag, what % of law enforcement do you consider to be corrupt or evil or whatever?

What % of muslims do you consider to be evil? (best guess)

Now, what % of humanity do you consider to be evil? (best guess)

[scumbag]

you cant assess percentages.

humanity sucks, muslims are no worse. cops may be equal, but what makes cops worse is that they are in control, with near "absolute power" and even if only 10 percent are corrupt, the other 90% that know who the bad ones are and say nothing makes me hate them all.