Although I don't believe in god; I don't believe in black holes either. The shit is like unicorns or fairy tales. It's just brain washing media/government bullshit just like religion.
Just research Nikola Tesla. The man was a pure genius and the government and world elites tried to shut this man up for good for all the stuff he knew. He knew too much about the truth that the gov didn't want the public to know.
He believed in an all electric universe. Not no black hole BS. I would never believe modern day mainstream media and their full of shit know nothing scientists and theoretical physicists. Nikola Tesla was the man.
Your on the right track.... Tesla was a christian man also.
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ACoochy
SBR Posting Legend
08-19-09
13949
#2138
My god is father christmas. I mean why not? Its just as real as the real god right?
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muldoon
SBR MVP
01-04-10
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#2139
Originally posted by ACoochy
My god is father christmas. I mean why not? Its just as real as the real god right?
Hell yeah. Plus you can visit your God in the mall.
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ACoochy
SBR Posting Legend
08-19-09
13949
#2140
Originally posted by muldoon
Hell yeah. Plus you can visit your God in the mall.
Moldy gets it. Self manipulation is a very powerful instrument of perceptual ineptness...
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raydog
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11-07-07
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#2141
Originally posted by brainfreeze
Your on the right track.... Tesla was a christian man also.
not at all ... he believed people should have an ideal ... to give purpose in life... but his ideas about a creator/god had nothing to do with any ancient books teachings and definitely had nothing to do with religion
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brainfreeze
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05-13-14
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#2142
Originally posted by raydog
not at all ... he believed people should have an ideal ... to give purpose in life... but his ideas about a creator/god had nothing to do with any ancient books teachings and definitely had nothing to do with religion
"The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power. My Mother had taught me to seek all truth in the Bible; therefore I devoted the next few months to the study of this work." -- Nikola Tesla, "My Inventions" (1919)
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raydog
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11-07-07
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#2143
again, its widely noted that his ideas of a god had nothing to do with the bible/christianity/religion... just because he read the bible in search of things, means nothing... he has made a ton of other quotes that directly negate his beliefs in a god from the bible... as did his closest friends when asked to discuss him...
Nikola Tesla, probably the greatest inventor in the last several hundred years, is another one who is sometimes called an atheist. Not oft...
interpret how you like... read down the long list of posts... it becomes very clear that he was not a man of religious faith or was a christian...his mother was a thumper, he was not god (from the bible) fearing
although there is little doubt he was agnostic or simply a non believer in the bibles God , in the big scheme of things, its 100% irrelevant due to the time he lived and how much science has progressed since... the guy was a genius and was of scientific mind... with science and technology of today, there is 0 doubt he would be agnostic/atheist if living today ...
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brainfreeze
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05-13-14
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#2144
Originally posted by TheAntFather
Although I don't believe in god; I don't believe in black holes either. The shit is like unicorns or fairy tales. It's just brain washing media/government bullshit just like religion.
Just thought I would mention a correction here, black holes exist and so does unicorns...just not how we think of them.
As for black holes.. Einstein is being contradicted by Hawkins on the possibility of black holes " matter/anti " evaporating or could they stay in the earths atmosphere after colliding particles with C.E.R.N ....pretty wild stuff happening with that, worth checking out, they are supposed to be cranking it up next month for a big collide ...
again, its widely noted that his ideas of a god had nothing to do with the bible/christianity/religion... just because he read the bible in search of things, means nothing... he has made a ton of other quotes that directly negate his beliefs in a god from the bible... as did his closest friends when asked to discuss him...
Nikola Tesla, probably the greatest inventor in the last several hundred years, is another one who is sometimes called an atheist. Not oft...
interpret how you like... read down the long list of posts... it becomes very clear that he was not a man of religious faith or was a christian...his mother was a thumper, he was not god (from the bible) fearing
although there is little doubt he was agnostic or simply a non believer in the bibles God , in the big scheme of things, its 100% irrelevant due to the time he lived and how much science has progressed since... the guy was a genius and was of scientific mind... with science and technology of today, there is 0 doubt he would be agnostic/atheist if living today ...
An excerpt from Tesla autobiography :
"One day, as I was roaming the mountains, I sought shelter from an approaching storm. The sky became overhung with heavy clouds, but somehow the rain was delayed until, all of a sudden, there was a lightening flash and a few moments after, a deluge. This observation set me thinking. It was manifest that the two phenomena were closely related, as cause and effect, and a little reflection led me to the conclusion that the electrical energy involved in the precipitation of the water was inconsiderable, the function of the lightening being much like that of a sensitive trigger. Here was a stupendous possibility of achievement. If we could produce electric effects of the required quality, this whole planet and the conditions of existence on it could be transformed. The sun raises the water of the oceans and winds drive it to distant regions where it remains in a state of most delicate balance. If it were in our power to upset it when and wherever desired, this might life sustaining stream could be at will controlled. We could irrigate arid deserts, create lakes and rivers, and provide motive power in unlimited amounts. This would be the most efficient way of harnessing the sun to the uses of man. The consummation depended on our ability to develop electric forces of the order of those in nature.
It seemed a hopeless undertaking, but I made up my mind to try it and immediately on my return to the United States in the summer of 1892, after a short visit to my friends in Watford, England; work was begun which was to me all the more attractive, because a means of the same kind was necessary for the successful transmission of energy without wires. At this time I made a further careful study of the Bible, and discovered the key in Revelation. The first gratifying result was obtained in the spring of the succeeding year, when I reaching a tension of about 100,000,000 volts—one hundred million volts -- with my conical coil, which I figured was the voltage of a flash of lightening. Steady progress was made until the destruction of my laboratory by fire, in 1895, as may be judged from an article by T.C. Martin which appeared in the April number of the Century Magazine. This calamity set me back in many ways and most of that year had to be devoted to planning and reconstruction. However, as soon as circumstances permitted, I returned to the task."
Some of his work was centered around The Word of God ....raydog
“My brain is only a receiver. In the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength, inspiration.I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know it exists.”
-Nikola Tesla
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brainfreeze
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05-13-14
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#2146
Here is where the scientist talks more about the risk of cern and brakes down in simple terms about black holes..
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muldoon
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#2147
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raydog
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11-07-07
6984
#2148
Originally posted by brainfreeze
An excerpt from Tesla autobiography :
"One day, as I was roaming the mountains, I sought shelter from an approaching storm. The sky became overhung with heavy clouds, but somehow the rain was delayed until, all of a sudden, there was a lightening flash and a few moments after, a deluge. This observation set me thinking. It was manifest that the two phenomena were closely related, as cause and effect, and a little reflection led me to the conclusion that the electrical energy involved in the precipitation of the water was inconsiderable, the function of the lightening being much like that of a sensitive trigger. Here was a stupendous possibility of achievement. If we could produce electric effects of the required quality, this whole planet and the conditions of existence on it could be transformed. The sun raises the water of the oceans and winds drive it to distant regions where it remains in a state of most delicate balance. If it were in our power to upset it when and wherever desired, this might life sustaining stream could be at will controlled. We could irrigate arid deserts, create lakes and rivers, and provide motive power in unlimited amounts. This would be the most efficient way of harnessing the sun to the uses of man. The consummation depended on our ability to develop electric forces of the order of those in nature.
It seemed a hopeless undertaking, but I made up my mind to try it and immediately on my return to the United States in the summer of 1892, after a short visit to my friends in Watford, England; work was begun which was to me all the more attractive, because a means of the same kind was necessary for the successful transmission of energy without wires. At this time I made a further careful study of the Bible, and discovered the key in Revelation. The first gratifying result was obtained in the spring of the succeeding year, when I reaching a tension of about 100,000,000 volts—one hundred million volts -- with my conical coil, which I figured was the voltage of a flash of lightening. Steady progress was made until the destruction of my laboratory by fire, in 1895, as may be judged from an article by T.C. Martin which appeared in the April number of the Century Magazine. This calamity set me back in many ways and most of that year had to be devoted to planning and reconstruction. However, as soon as circumstances permitted, I returned to the task."
Some of his work was centered around The Word of God ....raydog
“My brain is only a receiver. In the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength, inspiration.I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know it exists.”
-Nikola Tesla
again, because he studied parts of the bible... it didnt make him a christian or a religious man... he thought some things in the bible, not exactly god related, made sense, as in the comment in Bold (which nobody actually knows what he was referring too... he was discussing electricity lol), depending on what he was working on...he didnt believe in a god, as portrayed in the bible, as he knew that the occurrences, going on around him, were in no possible way being controlled by a higher power... but its nothing worth arguing over...
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brainfreeze
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#2149
Dr. Francis Sellers Collins is an American physician-geneticist noted for his discoveries of disease genes and his leadership of the Human Genome Project. He is director of the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Maryland
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brainfreeze
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05-13-14
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#2150
Originally posted by raydog
again, because he studied parts of the bible... it didnt make him a christian or a religious man... he thought some things in the bible, not exactly god related, made sense, as in the comment in Bold (which nobody actually knows what he was referring too... he was discussing electricity lol), depending on what he was working on...he didnt believe in a god, as portrayed in the bible, as he knew that the occurrences, going on around him, were in no possible way being controlled by a higher power... but its nothing worth arguing over...
He didn't only study it, we know from his own words, his family, his life, he believed in Christ. We don't know what he was referring to in his autobio but we do know revelations was implemented in his thought process as he talked about inventing. It was his choice of words to say " it was key ". I'm not arguing just pointing you to facts.
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brainfreeze
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05-13-14
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#2151
How the World’s Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind
EDITOR'S NOTE: For the last half of the twentieth century, Antony Flew (1923-2010) was the world's most famous atheist. Long before Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, and Sam Harris began taking swipes at religion, Flew was the preeminent spokesman for unbelief.
However in 2004, he shocked th
Flew: I accept the God of Aristotle who shares all the attributes you cite. Like Lewis I believe that God is a person but not the sort of person with whom you can have a talk. It is the ultimate being, the Creator of the Universe.
This guy might not be a christian but at least he admits there's a God ... " he was still studying into Christianity before he died "
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rkelly110
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10-05-09
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#2152
Originally posted by muldoon
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That looks like the Republicans play list. Sorry wrong thread.
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JKEGS81
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#2153
Sorry so long...
I find this thread fascinating; all the many differing takes and opinions on life, and the big question, is there a God?
Any religion, or strict orthodoxy, including the religion of mainstream science(yes, mainstream science originally derived from the greedy evil pricks of the Royal Society, and it's many offshoots, are exactly as narrow minded as any other religious orthodoxy), is for the small-minded, "think-they-know-nothing", or the opposite "think-they-know-it-all" Sheeple of the world. I don't know it all, no one does, but of course I know there's more to this life than what science and/or atheist's have to say, which is nothing, and that there is a Divine Source forever present in this world, and in all of us, and in everything.
But, our answers to these questions should always come from within, from our own experiences and insights, and not from what some other guy tells us. It's a tough thing, to go within our own heart and ask these questions and then get quite and listen, then to trust yourself and that inner voice and guidance that we all have & will hear, if we can get still and quite enough.
I noticed several comments around the theme, "if there is a God, why doesn't he show himself." I would say I see "proof" of him everyday, in simple things like the beauty of our planet, or the sacred geometry throughout the universe, or in the laughter from a terminally ill patient. Miracles are everywhere, just like Spirits presence. The "God" I embrace(I don't really like that word, as it has so much baggage tied to it from years of misuse and crazy human/archonic distortion over the centuries) isn't some long bearded judgmental white guy in the sky, as is commonly taught in most western cultures, but more a cosmic divine and benevolent Source/Spirit from which all things have come from and who permeates everything.
We'll never figure this question out using our logical left brains, you have to open up and exercise your creative right side first. I've only recently begun (about 4 years) on my personal journey of spiritual enlightenment, and I come from a scientific background/family. The latest finding from quantum physics studies is what actually propelled my journey and is a great place to start, as it the coolest and most accurate "science" out there and allows both science and spirit(not religion) to come together as kind of a one-higher-universal-understanding of our physical "reality", which is just one small part of the whole reality.
Short answer, I can't help but believe in Source, or Spirit or Grace or Holy Ghost or a Higher Power, or God, whatever you prefer, whom most definitely does "exist"(and more accurately "IS EVERYTHING", including you and me, vs created you and me, aka we are all Gods in a way, or constant co-creators with Source). The answer is so obvious, but you should not take my or anyone else's word for it, just keep asking and searching for yourself. You'll find what your looking for.
p.s. research eastern spiritual concepts vs western, you'll learn there are many other, metaphysical, but more real layers to the "self", then just the physical or even the emotional level of "us" that we in the western world are usually brought up learning about. Most of man just doesn't know what they don't know. Also, research quantum physics, lol it is the wildest thing and just blows all other scientific disciplines & their "methods" out of the water.
p.p.s Also check out Rupert Sheldrake videos & his book "Science Set Free", which outlines ten mainstream science dogmas which prevent it from even coming close to truly understanding True Reality. Another hard swallow of the religion of science is this business about the big bang, the nation that the universe just sprang from nothing in a single instant, for no reason. Um, ok....wouldn't that be called a "Miracle" lol. Another excellent book which includes understanding of both science and Source/Spirit is "Biology of Belief" by Bruce Lipton. A fascinating book on the meaning of life is the "Conversations with God" series by Neale Walsch. Keep digging friends, never make the mistake that you already have all the answers
John 2:19-22 19Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.20Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? 21But he spake of the temple of his body. 22When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
1 Corinthians 6:19
The Body is a Temple of the Holy Spirit 18Flee immorality. Every other sin that a man commits is outside the body, but the immoral man sins against his own body. 19Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own? 20For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body.
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brainfreeze
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05-13-14
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#2158
Originally posted by Snowball
that is a bunch of b.s.
he is twisting holy scripture and incorrectly interpreting it in order to sell a preparedness guide.
Yea, I'm not into doomsday scenarios, though I'm sure there will be some type of " Armageddon " battle, some will have the mark of the beast and few will have the mark of God, those few will be spared ...so why worry about that type of stuff.
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brainfreeze
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05-13-14
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#2159
1 Corinthians 2:13-15
…13which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words. 14But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. 15But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one.
John 14:16-18 …16"I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever; 17that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you. 18"I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.…
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brainfreeze
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05-13-14
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#2160
John 16:7
7"But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you. 8"And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment;…
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raydog
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11-07-07
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#2161
scripture is meaningless when it comes from a book filled with proven impossibilities and thousands of possible interpretations ... im not sure why christians continue to quote scripture... its likely to have been changed hundreds of times in order to meet someones specific agenda ...just one of the many things that adult believers fail to wrap their heads around...
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brainfreeze
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05-13-14
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#2162
James 3:16-18
…16For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there is disorder and every evil thing. 17But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, unwavering, without hypocrisy. 18And the seed whose fruit is righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.
Galatians 5:22
. 22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.…
Matthew 7:20 (KJV)
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
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raydog
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11-07-07
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#2163
what your god needs to do is send some fruit to the millions starving to death...perform a miracle and seed and water the ground to help its dying children... until that happens, your idea of a god continues to allow children to be born in places he knows they will be in pain from day 1 and starve to death... the fact that so many believe a higher power controls all of this death, is beyond words... brainwashed to the point of being mentally unable to understand things from a logical and rational point of view
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ACoochy
SBR Posting Legend
08-19-09
13949
#2164
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rkelly110
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#2165
Beware. I believe the Pope is Christ resurrected. With the 2nd coming of Christ, he will choose his flock to go back
with. After that, we will die by fire. Repent and accept Christ as your saviour now!
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brainfreeze
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05-13-14
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#2166
Originally posted by raydog
what your god needs to do is send some fruit to the millions starving to death...perform a miracle and seed and water the ground to help its dying children... until that happens, your idea of a god continues to allow children to be born in places he knows they will be in pain from day 1 and starve to death... the fact that so many believe a higher power controls all of this death, is beyond words... brainwashed to the point of being mentally unable to understand things from a logical and rational point of view
Maybe a more logical question is why are people having children when they know they can't provide for them. Why blame everything on God ?
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Jayvegas420
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#2167
Originally posted by muldoon
Hell yeah. Plus you can visit your God in the mall.
I love Muldoon
Wiping away a tear over here.
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raydog
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11-07-07
6984
#2168
Originally posted by brainfreeze
Maybe a more logical question is why are people having children when they know they can't provide for them. Why blame everything on God ?
christians think god controls all and already has a plan for everyone and everything...besides the fact the shit is completely useless and part of the mental disorder, this is the puzzling thing about Prayer...why pray when there is already a plan?
coming from a god fearing man, your question makes 0 sense... if you are gullible enough to believe such childish stuff as a higher power and that it controls everything, your higher power is to blame for all occurrences ... again, another very simple thing that adults should be able to grasp, but brainwashed fear and the mental illness prevents them
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raydog
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11-07-07
6984
#2169
stop teaching the fictional bible shit to the kids and maybe the future will be better...
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brainfreeze
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05-13-14
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#2170
Originally posted by raydog
stop teaching the fictional bible shit to the kids and maybe the future will be better...
The more likely explanation for the great pyramid, is that it was built during the captivity, when there were 2 million + Hebrew slaves working for the Egyptian empire.