GOD

[ACoochy]

The problem with your statement is you fail to realize that Gods day is not the same as a 24 hour period that you would typically refer to as a day in your life.

Talking fact about a entity thats unable to talk for itself...

Stay classy guy...

[brainfreeze]

I wrote a rather accidentally lengthy post on the Proverb you posted above. You should read it.

But there you go again just posting scripture out of context with no explanation to meaning. Again you've missed it. The passage in Colossians 2 is taken out of context and not relevant. It might sound like it is, but if you think so then you've missed Paul's message completely. Don't twist the scripture Freeze.

Dangerous...

2 Timothy 4:
…3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 4and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.


…8Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever. 9Do not be carried away by varied and strange teachings; for it is good for the heart to be strengthened by grace, not by foods, through which those who were so occupied were not benefited.

[brainfreeze]

Read carefully kvb... Don't let this pass you up either...

1 Corinthians 1:21-31(KJV)


21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:

23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:

29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.

30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.


I'm still waiting on scripture of old earth, ape ancestors, speech evolution, and star dust... Start where you like.

[brainfreeze]

Scientific theories turn out to be wrong all the time,

[KVB]

...I'm still waiting on scripture of old earth, ape ancestors, speech evolution, and star dust... Start where you like.

You don't get it Freeze. You simply don't get it. You don't even know what it is your not getting.

[brainfreeze]

You don't get it Freeze. You simply don't get it. You don't even know what it is your not getting.

I don't want to get your trip, if it doesn't come from scripture, the Spirit, that withstands the test of time then I don't want to hear it. You claim to believe in the Bible and God but at the same time believe evolution. I know my God kvb, and am always humbling myself to understand Him more, but don't talk to me about understanding when you haven't shown yourself approved. You've made a correction that anyone who reads it would have understood that as well. Your pride, arrogance and what you think is intelligence is blinding you from the truth. You don't have to explain, and we aren't really going any where here, but I will pray you humble yourself to know when your wrong.



1Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

[ACoochy]

Scientific theories turn out to be wrong all the time,

Thats the point of science freezer but that concept is too big for your spirit to wrap its lack of logic or rationale thought around...

[xdodger19]

Atheists made up evolution as a way for them to try to explain the existence of life without God.
Atheists by necessity believe that non-living matter formed itself into a living cell. Which is impossible. Atheist by neccessity believe that nature goes from disorder to order. But then they will lie and claim its not order. Then they claim that life through genetic mutations makes, new kinds of life with new structures like wings. Pretty much all the laws of science prove evolution false, its counter to everything that is science and reason.
Then when you explain it to the atheist, they start lying and pretending you rejected their story because you didn't understand it. They try to pretend their stories are like calculus. And that it is difficult to comprehend. So The evolutionist never acknowledges that people reject their stories because they are absurd. Evolutionists have to make believe that they are engaged in a religion vs science discussion. Atheists also have to label every subject, as this is science or this is religion.
atheists will often point the obvious in a longwinded speech as if they said something profound.
Atheists are very often rude and callous, and are less likely to wash properly. They act like monkees.

[KVB]

...Evolutionists have to make believe that they are engaged in a religion vs science discussion. Atheists also have to label every subject, as this is science or this is religion...

This is exactly the trap BrainFreeze is falling into. It might be appropriate to consider it science vs. faith as religions bring in so many other things that aren't in this thread.

Getting hung up on pitting science vs. God is simply not necessary and undoubtedly a secular strategy.

Brainfreeze you don't understand basic principles of science. What's worse, is you not applied scripture incorrectly in efforts to judge and needlessly defend your faith.

I believe you understand some scripture, but have far to go to understand what Paul is saying about the love of mankind and the peace of Jesus Christ. Sure, you may not fall to some other religion, but do you really understand what the fight between good and evil is about, and our mission today?

You do not understand what I claim when you say I claim to believe in the Bible and God and evolution. It's a false statement.

Beware of your arrogance of what you think is following the Spirit. You too can be mislead. If only you understood the scripture you are posting.

Maybe you are religious Freeze, what is it Jehovah's Witness? They are pretty good at twisting scripture, or just plain getting it wrong.

Better to be a follower of Christ than a follower of a religion, but some religious are great followers of Christ.

Don't say you are humble because the Bible says to be, actually be humble.

A prayer...

God please give Brainfreeze the understanding and wisdom he currently needs to be able to apply Your Word, Your Scripture and the written teachings of Jesus Christ in today's world to help further you plans and help him carry out your work in the Great Commission or as the teacher he aspires to be or according to what you would have him become moving forward. I don't know Your plans God but protect Brainfreeze from the frustrations that attack him in such a perilous forum and help him to understand how peace can be obtained through prayer and Your word.

--Amen

[brainfreeze]

This is exactly the trap BrainFreeze is falling into. It might be appropriate to consider it science vs. faith as religions bring in so many other things that aren't in this thread.

Getting hung up on pitting science vs. God is simply not necessary and undoubtedly a secular strategy.

Brainfreeze you don't understand basic principles of science. What's worse, is you not applied scripture incorrectly in efforts to judge and needlessly defend your faith.

I believe you understand some scripture, but have far to go to understand what Paul is saying about the love of mankind and the peace of Jesus Christ. Sure, you may not fall to some other religion, but do you really understand what the fight between good and evil is about, and our mission today?

You do not understand what I claim when you say I claim to believe in the Bible and God and evolution. It's a false statement.

Beware of your arrogance of what you think is following the Spirit. You too can be mislead. If only you understood the scripture you are posting.

Maybe you are religious Freeze, what is it Jehovah's Witness? They are pretty good at twisting scripture, or just plain getting it wrong.

Better to be a follower of Christ than a follower of a religion, but some religious are great followers of Christ.

Don't say you are humble because the Bible says to be, actually be humble.

A prayer...

God please give Brainfreeze the understanding and wisdom he currently needs to be able to apply Your Word, Your Scripture and the written teachings of Jesus Christ in today's world to help further you plans and help him carry out your work in the Great Commission or as the teacher he aspires to be or according to what you would have him become moving forward. I don't know Your plans God but protect Brainfreeze from the frustrations that attack him in such a perilous forum and help him to understand how peace can be obtained through prayer and Your word.

--Amen

I can tell the Spirit is foreign to you, all you comprehend is words and there base meaning, and you haven't shown otherwise. I understand the basics just fine, it's really not that difficult. If you want to believe order came from chaos, up to you dude, but this is now beginning to be a waste of time with you, if you'd like to address a post address dodgers, or the address the link I posted of the man that studied the lie of evolution for ten years. You still haven't told me what you are, I'm a Christian, non denomination/ baptist ... I don't mind sharing that, I'm proud to be a Christian, and am honored to share what He has done for me.

no ones pitting science against God, I've said it like ten times now, evolution is not science.

p.s were you laughing at me while praying for me ? Sounds like it's time for some psych meds...

[brainfreeze]

Atheists made up evolution as a way for them to try to explain the existence of life without God.
Atheists by necessity believe that non-living matter formed itself into a living cell. Which is impossible. Atheist by neccessity believe that nature goes from disorder to order. But then they will lie and claim its not order. Then they claim that life through genetic mutations makes, new kinds of life with new structures like wings. Pretty much all the laws of science prove evolution false, its counter to everything that is science and reason.
Then when you explain it to the atheist, they start lying and pretending you rejected their story because you didn't understand it. They try to pretend their stories are like calculus. And that it is difficult to comprehend. So The evolutionist never acknowledges that people reject their stories because they are absurd. Evolutionists have to make believe that they are engaged in a religion vs science discussion. Atheists also have to label every subject, as this is science or this is religion.
atheists will often point the obvious in a longwinded speech as if they said something profound.
Atheists are very often rude and callous, and are less likely to wash properly. They act like monkees.

Solid post, enjoyed reading it...

[brainfreeze]

Thats the point of science freezer but that concept is too big for your spirit to wrap its lack of logic or rationale thought around...

I understand different methods have to be applied to countless observations, to understand if what they are implementing is correct. My point was that some here think a scientific theory might have never been disproven. The video gives a better understanding about something's that modern science has found to be disproven, in plenty of scientific theories.

[redcafe200]

I don't believe in god because I have no evidence to do so. I was talking to a religious friend of mine and he said what if you die and you meet god what would you say then? My answer was simple, your a sick person how can you let people go to war over religion and give kids cancer etc. I think nearly everything that certain people say was a work of god can be scientifically proven.

I have no issue with people believing in God. If it makes them happier or helps them then believe.

[brainfreeze]

I don't believe in god because I have no evidence to do so. I was talking to a religious friend of mine and he said what if you die and you meet god what would you say then? My answer was simple, your a sick person how can you let people go to war over religion and give kids cancer etc. I think nearly everything that certain people say was a work of god can be scientifically proven.

I have no issue with people believing in God. If it makes them happier or helps them then believe.

Jeremiah 29:12-13

12'Then you will call upon Me and come and pray to Me, and I will listen to you. 13You will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart.

Matthew 7:7
"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.

[brainfreeze]

I wrote a rather accidentally lengthy post on the Proverb you posted above. You should read it.

But there you go again just posting scripture out of context with no explanation to meaning. Again you've missed it. The passage in Colossians 2 is taken out of context and not relevant. It might sound like it is, but if you think so then you've missed Paul's message completely. Don't twist the scripture Freeze.

Dangerous...

Lean not on YOUR own understanding kvb, not everyone your trying to give a twisted conversion to evolution and Christ..it's completely in context as described, but your to caught in the rudiments of the world and philosophies of men to realize that. Why wouldn't Colossians 2 be relevant there ? It's a verse of exactly what your doing..your held captive to empty deception and mans philosophy that you completely dismiss the Genesis account. So don't tell me I'm twisting scripture when it's related and completely relevant. your adding to scripture and taking away from it, this is something you should have serious thought about.

I think your trying to do the right thing, but you have let another " religion/evolution " come in between your relationship with Christ, and you've lost the way. Get back into Paul's teachings, and Johns, go study the scriptures you supposedly hold dear, and pray kvb, I do mostly nightly. I will pray you do so.

I don't want to fight with you but just think about what your promoting here.

[raydog]

rewritten and rewritten and rewritten scripture being posted...that shit is useless for proving anything.... a child knows this

for a moment, forget that science has completely outed the bible as being fiction and proves it daily, yet it falls on ignorant ears of denial, you should turn in your adult card and be institutionalized if you honestly believe the ridiculousness of the book... xtians ignore and make excuses for its numerous contradictions and, well, believe all the impossibilities that have, VERY IRONICALLY, never been seen or happened since the bible was finished... why havent we seen any amazing miracles, similar to those claimed in the bible, since it was finished? nothing even close ...i know i ask this question a lot, but it never gets answered, not even with one of those bullshit "gods will or mysterious ways" type of illiterate answers...

take a look at this page and tell me what you think... ignore the title, because you wont read it if you dont, but there are some interesting details about bible stories and relevant times...

https://danielmiessler.com/essays/bible_fiction/

i think its been posted, but evilbible.com is a great site for those who havent read much of the bible and cant fathom there being scripture that proves the god, of the bible, was nothing but a murderous piece of shit... read the site and learn some things, as quoted in the book of fiction, about you great god

[zert]

the god, of the bible, was nothing but a murderous piece of shit...

Not very nice.

[muldoon]

Not very nice.

Behold, here are my virgin daughter and his concubine. Let me bring them out now. Violate them and do with them what seems good to you, but against this man do not do this outrageous thing

Speaking of not very nice.

[zert]

You and raydog have said the bible is a book of fiction. So what chapter and verse did you find this?

[muldoon]

You and raydog have said the bible is a book of fiction. So what chapter and verse did you find this?

Judges 19:24

[zert]

Old Testament and yeah the guy was not nice to his daughter.

[brainfreeze]

You and raydog have said the bible is a book of fiction.

That's something you will notice they do. They will hold to the not so pleasant verses of the OT, and present it as " truth " that christians believe but disregard the other 99.9 %. They cherry pick a few verses and roll with it, not taking into consideration what's highlighted in the Bible, Jesus said the greatest commandments are to Worship God with all your heart and soul and love your neighbor as yourself. If we can understand that these commands are the underlying theme, then the few cherry picked verses quickly find there place.

[raydog]

besides the FACT that holy books are PROVEN FICTION, you are told what to cherry pick by a cherry picker... its childish and the religious have fallen for the biggest lies in history... they have had thousands of years to produce an inkling of proof of a god and the best they can come up with is "you will have to wait till you die"...

[brainfreeze]

Bill nye " the science guy " supports abortion...

go figure..

The scientist adds: 'When it comes to to women's rights with respect to reproduction, I think you should leave it to women.'




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[xdodger19]

atheists are huge liars, they never tell the truth
They claim they need "evidence'
But when it comes to their belief that rabbits turn into apes, and rabbits turn into people
They don't need evidence anymore
Also atheists are always lying when they try to defend their evolution theory, they often engage in lying
misrepresentation, and logical fallacies. Then when you call them on their logical fallacies and lies, the atheist acts
like he can't comprehend what you mean.
What I have learned from studying all this stuff in depth is that atheists don't actually care if there so called reasoning makes sense or not, which makes sense because atheists are jokers, and fools, jesters. Atheists are people who don't wash, and all an atheist is able to think is very simple thoughts. Like they think in their limited foolish perception that they don't like religion. This is the extant of an atheists whole ability to reason.
Proclaiming themselves to be wise they became fools.
Also atheists will vote for insane liberal activists because atheists don't like "religion"
The atheist thinks 'religion" means the republican party.
If you point out to a liberal one of their politicians errors, the liberal just will go on about the republican party.
Liberal atheist evolutionist also doesn't give a crap about justice or human rights like they claim,
These people just use institutions and so forth to further themselves
And most people nowadays work for the govt. How many people do you know that have private enterprise.
And people don't notice the chemtrail planes are not what they appear to be. they are holograms.
People are oblivious to the world around them, they let themselves be abused on a mass scale.

[xdodger19]

Also atheists "strawman" religion as if there beliefs since they are not "religious' are somehow valid or anything.
Like the guy that said go to war over religion. That's not quite true. Wars are fought for geo-political reasons, and belief systems.
By strawmaning "religion" the atheist tries to claim that his belief system somehow has merit simply because of the label.
That's why I explained how atheists reasoning is basically "I don't like religion" that's about the extent of the atheists reasoning ability,
it goes no deeper than that, atheists have very shallow non reasoning.

[no1here]

There is but one and you are not disconnected. If you care to call it God then you are God. I simply call it spirit to which I am.

[brainfreeze]

There is but one and you are not disconnected. If you care to call it God then you are God. I simply call it spirit to which I am.

You're in agreement with a deceptive state of consciousness. You've accepted a false spirit, scripture talks a lot about them.

[raydog]

atheists are huge liars, they never tell the truth
They claim they need "evidence'
But when it comes to their belief that rabbits turn into apes, and rabbits turn into people
They don't need evidence anymore
Also atheists are always lying when they try to defend their evolution theory, they often engage in lying
misrepresentation, and logical fallacies. Then when you call them on their logical fallacies and lies, the atheist acts
like he can't comprehend what you mean.
What I have learned from studying all this stuff in depth is that atheists don't actually care if there so called reasoning makes sense or not, which makes sense because atheists are jokers, and fools, jesters. Atheists are people who don't wash, and all an atheist is able to think is very simple thoughts. Like they think in their limited foolish perception that they don't like religion. This is the extant of an atheists whole ability to reason.
Proclaiming themselves to be wise they became fools.
Also atheists will vote for insane liberal activists because atheists don't like "religion"
The atheist thinks 'religion" means the republican party.
If you point out to a liberal one of their politicians errors, the liberal just will go on about the republican party.
Liberal atheist evolutionist also doesn't give a crap about justice or human rights like they claim,
These people just use institutions and so forth to further themselves
And most people nowadays work for the govt. How many people do you know that have private enterprise.
And people don't notice the chemtrail planes are not what they appear to be. they are holograms.
People are oblivious to the world around them, they let themselves be abused on a mass scale.

you might be the biggest fukking moron in this thread...i take it back, you are.... for all that "in depth" studying you have done, you still dont have the slightest idea about the theory or why it works... please go watch a youtube or something and at least grasp the basics because you sound like a complete idiot....

and no, atheist dont lie.. we offer facts and ask questions... and yes , we do not like religion, but that does not mean we dont like religious people... religious people dont like atheist... you see the difference and bigotry? ...

atheist rely on facts, proven facts, that are presented to us by science... Atheist dont wash and they are only able to think Simple thoughts? dude, what the fukk are you even talking about... atheist are the only ones that are asking the questions... xtians gave up critical thinking when their gullible parents forced them into believing in the fictional book of lies... atheist are the furthest things from simpletons that you will ever meet... man are you lost .. would a simpleton keep asking questions and searching or the unknown? no, a simpleton believes what they are forced or threatened to believe and leave it there...atheists need facts... your ridiculous faith, prayer and miracles, all proven whoreshit.. show me some proof of something and we can talk...except you cant and you are too brainwashed to even go searching when something in your mind says "ya know, this isnt logical and it simply cant happen" goddamn you are completely illiterate on the subject

lets be totally honest.. science absolutely killed the bible and quran and their god theories a long ass time ago.. anyone still believing it its debunked miracles and completely irrational fables, is a mental midget... believing in things, that have already been proven to be IMPOSSIBLE, is something that even children laugh at you about...

[TheAntFather]

“Accept His Noodly Magnificence into your heart, into your soul, and ye shall forever be free. R'Amen.”

Flying Spaghetti Monster

[TheAntFather]

“Let us sing praise to the Flying Spaghetti Monster, for He is a loving God. Of His might and dominion, there is no compare; of His mercy and deliciousness, there is no equal. No other god can challenge Him; in the taste test, He is invincible. Through His pasta, He has blessed us with everlasting life, and holy is His Name. For He is the Flying Spaghetti Monster: the One, True, and Most High God, creator of man and midgit, giver of pasta, giver of sauce, from age to holy age; not created He was, but ever He lives, through the glory of spaghetti, now and forever. R'Amen.”

[bigtymer56]

Dont forget about Austin 3:16....

[KingJD31]

I don't care What the fuckin anybody says if you think you were a fuckin monkey that's pretty sad but funny most of all. We went from throwing shit at each other and swinging in trees to building a fuckin nuke. Yet not one other species can seem to take there lives from anything other then taking a shit and sleeping.

you might be the biggest fukking moron in this thread...i take it back, you are.... for all that "in depth" studying you have done, you still dont have the slightest idea about the theory or why it works... please go watch a youtube or something and at least grasp the basics because you sound like a complete idiot....

and no, atheist dont lie.. we offer facts and ask questions... and yes , we do not like religion, but that does not mean we dont like religious people... religious people dont like atheist... you see the difference and bigotry? ...

atheist rely on facts, proven facts, that are presented to us by science... Atheist dont wash and they are only able to think Simple thoughts? dude, what the fukk are you even talking about... atheist are the only ones that are asking the questions... xtians gave up critical thinking when their gullible parents forced them into believing in the fictional book of lies... atheist are the furthest things from simpletons that you will ever meet... man are you lost .. would a simpleton keep asking questions and searching or the unknown? no, a simpleton believes what they are forced or threatened to believe and leave it there...atheists need facts... your ridiculous faith, prayer and miracles, all proven whoreshit.. show me some proof of something and we can talk...except you cant and you are too brainwashed to even go searching when something in your mind says "ya know, this isnt logical and it simply cant happen" goddamn you are completely illiterate on the subject

lets be totally honest.. science absolutely killed the bible and quran and their god theories a long ass time ago.. anyone still believing it its debunked miracles and completely irrational fables, is a mental midget... believing in things, that have already been proven to be IMPOSSIBLE, is something that even children laugh at you about...

[KingJD31]

Which is the next species to make it to the moon? personally I think Guinea pigs

[brainfreeze]

“Let us sing praise to the Flying Spaghetti Monster, for He is a loving God. Of His might and dominion, there is no compare; of His mercy and deliciousness, there is no equal. No other god can challenge Him; in the taste test, He is invincible. Through His pasta, He has blessed us with everlasting life, and holy is His Name. For He is the Flying Spaghetti Monster: the One, True, and Most High God, creator of man and midgit, giver of pasta, giver of sauce, from age to holy age; not created He was, but ever He lives, through the glory of spaghetti, now and forever. R'Amen.”

Psalms 1:1
1How blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked, Nor stand in the path of sinners, Nor sit in the seat of scoffers! 2But his delight is in the law of the LORD, And in His law he meditates day and night.