GOD

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Although, I don't believe in all the BS religions here on earth, which is over 10,000 different religions; I do believe we have an energy that will live on forever. When you look at your hand under a microscope, all you see is light and energy.

In physics, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system cannot change—it is said to be conserved over time. Energy can be neither created nor destroyed, but can change form.

The governments across the world use religion to control the masses. They know the truth and who is the real God or a portal to God, and it ain't no man like Jesus, Buddha or Allah. You can read about 1,000 religious books and they all have bits and pieces in it that tells you the truth where you can see God. It's not a man. I can post it here for people to see and people still wouldn't believe it.

But, all a Christian has to do is research their own book and figure out what the book was originally called before it was rewritten 1 Million times by man. It was not called a holy bible, I can tell you that right now. I showed a relative of mine (Christian) the truth, and all she did was get excited and give credit to Jesus. It has nothing to do with Jesus; but the answer is in a lot of different religious books if you dig deep enough.

Ant, Clement used the New Testament to quote from all the time, that was in 50 AD, check out the didache also or the " teachings of the 12 Apostles "

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Here's a time line and history of the " bible ".

http://greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/pre-reformation.html

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Spark plug found in a " 500,000 " year old rock ? ... Interesting

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coso_artifact

Might be a million year old... Or maybe just 7 to 5 thousand like creationist say

[Snowball]

Spark plug found in a " 500,000 " year old rock ? ... Interesting

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coso_artifact

Might be a million year old... Or maybe just 7 to 5 thousand like creationist say

That's a Champion spark plug from the 1920's.
Here's a couple explanations:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread454335/pg7

http://ncse.com/rncse/24/2/coso-artifact

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That's a Champion spark plug from the 1920's.
Here's a couple explanations:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread454335/pg7

http://ncse.com/rncse/24/2/coso-artifact

Yea, I seen something about this thing, then they lost it some how ?

[trobin31]

Spark plug found in a " 500,000 " year old rock ? ... Interesting

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coso_artifact

Might be a million year old... Or maybe just 7 to 5 thousand like creationist say

Wow, you don't even understand the stuff you post to back claims.

Just give up man, thinking and rationality is not for you. It makes more sense for you to quote scriptures from the Bible than listen to you struggle trying to debunk basic science. Did you graduate high school? Do you know what the word oxidation means? Do you know what happens to metals when they get wet? C'mon man I know you can do this!!

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Wow, you don't even understand the stuff you post to back claims.

Just give up man, thinking and rationality is not for you. It makes more sense for you to quote scriptures from the Bible than listen to you struggle trying to debunk basic science. Did you graduate high school? Do you know what the word oxidation means? Do you know what happens to metals when they get wet? C'mon man I know you can do this!!

This was the theory, it was tested ... I gave you a link, and here you are chiming in, people were puzzled how it got there, but I guess you weren't, you know it all.

Guess you were there to see this built as well..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism

[trobin31]

This was the theory, it was tested ... I gave you a link, and here you are chiming in, people were puzzled how it got there, but I guess you weren't, you know it all.

Guess you were there to see this built as well..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism

No I wasn't born yet. That's really cool discovery though

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No I wasn't born yet. That's really cool discovery though

Yes.. Makes me think of the verse, " there's nothing new under the son " it also says as in the days of Noah so it will be in the last days.

[TheAntFather]

[TheAntFather]

You're welcomed.

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Yes.. Makes me think of the verse, " there's nothing new under the son " it also says as in the days of Noah so it will be in the last days.

Strange, this said nothing new under the sun, now it says nothing new under the son. Well correction needed,

Ecclesiastes 1:9King James Version (KJV)

9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

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[video=youtube;G3i6UwVkP6M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3i6UwVkP6M[video]

I think you will find this video informative, at least I hope it will. Let this young man explain to you why they are different, very different.

[KVB]

[KVB]

"Through the storm we reach the shore. You give it all but I want more. And I'm waiting...for you."

[BetterBizness]

I still don't understand why I can't believe in theistic evolution... oh wait... I can... we all win... /closethread

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I still don't understand why I can't believe in theistic evolution... oh wait... I can... we all win... /closethread

Because you can't have both, and it's against scripture. It says God said, let US make man in our image. It was done, Adam was not the product of ape ancestors, it's not biblical. There can be no moral compass through the history of mankind without God. If you support darwnism, your already in a religion, your just doing what other pagans do by mixing Christ into it, like Catholics and so fourth.

[KVB]

One can't understand exactly how God made people anymore than they can explain how He created the world simply by speaking His word.

God is so powerful that he could speak something into existence. For anyone to claim to know exactly how, or by the same token rule out how, God accomplishes His word in this fashion is going too far and at the very least, jumping to conclusions that the Bible does not offer.

Such certainty is most certainly religious.

We would all do better not claim to know more than we can and follow the God given evidence in its purity, without corruption.

[brainfreeze]

One can't understand exactly how God made people anymore than they can explain how He created the world simply by speaking His word.

God is so powerful that he could speak something into existence. For anyone to claim to know exactly how, or by the same token rule out how, God accomplishes His word in this fashion is going too far and at the very least, jumping to conclusions that the Bible does not offer.

Such certainty is most certainly religious.

We would all do better not claim to know more than we can and follow the God given evidence in its purity, without corruption.

sure I can ...

7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

genesis 3

19In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

[KVB]

sure I can ...

7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

genesis 3

19In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

But you cannot claim to know EXACTLY how that happened. No one can. Many of God’s works are done through mechanisms we understand.

Not trying to argue Freeze, I know the scripture, and it goes further, and we know it does. How did the lowly dust get there? God spoke it into being. Well we now know there are a whole lot of things that comprise the things that comprise dust. And we know how some of those things are formed in our world. We know the mechanisms created and used by God to make them happen.


We also know that there are things we do not know. We've discussed this with thought of stars and "star dust" in the past.


To judge by the fruits I can think of one of many examples of ministries that send people around the world in the name of spreading the gospel. Many of these men and women learned their craft with an understanding of accepted scientific theories (whether true or not) and don’t just practice a job, but use their God given talents while conducting evangelical work.

Perhaps they are misled or deceived, but to the extent of what type of fruit falls from the tree, it’s a tough argument to make. And perhaps there are different kinds of healing, but by all evidence, it stands to reason the doctors I know who do this type of missionary work are led by the Lord.

We know the scripture, faith and hope are important, but none of these gifts are worth anything without love.

1 Corinthians 12:8-10New International Version (NIV)
⁸ To one there is given through the Spirit a message of wisdom, to another a message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, ⁹ to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, ¹⁰ to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,^[a] and to still another the interpretation of tongues

1 Corinthians 12:28New International Version (NIV)
²⁸ And God has placed in the church first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, of helping, of guidance, and of different kinds of tongues.

I put in bold “miracles” because it seems with this example miracles are relative. What we often take for granted can be a miracle in some communities worldwide.

[xdodger19]

evolution proponents pretend that there lies are based on science and reason
The Bible and science are not at odds with each other
But evolution is at odds with the Bible and science
If you think naturalistic processes of nature can create life.
Then you are a fool.

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evolution proponents pretend that there lies are based on science and reason
The Bible and science are not at odds with each other
But evolution is at odds with the Bible and science
If you think naturalistic processes of nature can create life.
Then you are a fool.

I agree but I would tell you not to call him a fool, just his thoughts can be foolish, not him himself. He's looking for truth, and admits he doesn't know it all.

21Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: 22But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

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But you cannot claim to know EXACTLY how that happened. No one can. Many of God’s works are done through mechanisms we understand.

Not trying to argue Freeze, I know the scripture, and it goes further, and we know it does. How did the lowly dust get there? God spoke it into being. Well we now know there are a whole lot of things that comprise the things that comprise dust. And we know how some of those things are formed in our world. We know the mechanisms created and used by God to make them happen.


We also know that there are things we do not know. We've discussed this with thought of stars and "star dust" in the past.


To judge by the fruits I can think of one of many examples of ministries that send people around the world in the name of spreading the gospel. Many of these men and women learned their craft with an understanding of accepted scientific theories (whether true or not) and don’t just practice a job, but use their God given talents while conducting evangelical work.

Perhaps they are misled or deceived, but to the extent of what type of fruit falls from the tree, it’s a tough argument to make. And perhaps there are different kinds of healing, but by all evidence, it stands to reason the doctors I know who do this type of missionary work are led by the Lord.

We know the scripture, faith and hope are important, but none of these gifts are worth anything without love.

1 Corinthians 12:8-10New International Version (NIV)
⁸ To one there is given through the Spirit a message of wisdom, to another a message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, ⁹ to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, ¹⁰ to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,^[a] and to still another the interpretation of tongues

1 Corinthians 12:28New International Version (NIV)
²⁸ And God has placed in the church first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, of helping, of guidance, and of different kinds of tongues.

I put in bold “miracles” because it seems with this example miracles are relative. What we often take for granted can be a miracle in some communities worldwide.

Sure it goes deeper, but in general, we are just vessels, clay pots, dust, temples for the 7 Spirits and HOLY SPIRIT of God..

[KVB]

evolution proponents pretend that there lies are based on science and reason
The Bible and science are not at odds with each other
But evolution is at odds with the Bible and science
If you think naturalistic processes of nature can create life.
Then you are a fool.

I agree with Freez about the fool part but would like to add that the part in bold is dangerous. It appears to imply that natural processes are not created by God. I would be careful not to separate Nature from God.

God is everywhere and is the creator of everything, inlcuding life, and I assure my kids were gifted to us by God through a very natural process.

[BetterBizness]

Because you can't have both,

I can... I do... your argument after the word "both" is invalid... you may as well be drunken left shark right now..

telling me I can't believe God created via an evolutionary process... lololol

Bible is a book of redemption, not a book of science... I feel like Charlie Sheen here (Not in the fk sluts HIV way though) - #winning...

sub-saloon this...

[raydog]

im way overdue to post another wake up call to you bumbling gullible idiots...

you brainwashed fools and your fictional holy books and fictional characters... evolution is a fact and to deny it is like denying the sun exist... earths old age is a fact... adam and eve never existed...their story is ridiculously comical... they had boys, yet somehow populated the world .. adults believing in the incredibly stupid fukking miracles... adults believing in the arc and the flood

none of this shit ever happened...

nobody that wrote a single word in the bible, ever knew anyone they are writing about and yet your mental illness wont let you believe the truth and comprehend facts.....scripture is meaningless, made up bullshit in order to please whoever the ruler at the time was and could use the book as control .. its nothing but regurgitated bullshit hearsay with thousands of different interpretations dating back hundreds to thousands of years before the fiction was even finished... believe what you will, continue to deny and ignore hard cold facts that prove holy book shit never happened, but you are flat out illiterate to believe that anything important came from any holy book and even more mental if you believe any "god" controls anything, anyone or even exist... its proven fiction..

same gullible idiots claiming scripture is truth and the word of god... you need help.. and please stop mentally fukking the children of today too... smfh

thats all.. the brainwashed wont listen because they are irrational and think faith in fiction has more weight than hardcore proven facts... for the few other intelligent people in the thread, keep up the good fight... everyday, science is prevailing and atheism is growing like crazy

[KVB]

[TheAntFather]

im way overdue to post another wake up call to you bumbling gullible idiots...

you brainwashed fools and your fictional holy books and fictional characters... evolution is a fact and to deny it is like denying the sun exist... earths old age is a fact... adam and eve never existed...their story is ridiculously comical... they had boys, yet somehow populated the world .. adults believing in the incredibly stupid fukking miracles... adults believing in the arc and the flood

none of this shit ever happened...

nobody that wrote a single word in the bible, ever knew anyone they are writing about and yet your mental illness wont let you believe the truth and comprehend facts.....scripture is meaningless, made up bullshit in order to please whoever the ruler at the time was and could use the book as control .. its nothing but regurgitated bullshit hearsay with thousands of different interpretations dating back hundreds to thousands of years before the fiction was even finished... believe what you will, continue to deny and ignore hard cold facts that prove holy book shit never happened, but you are flat out illiterate to believe that anything important came from any holy book and even more mental if you believe any "god" controls anything, anyone or even exist... its proven fiction..

same gullible idiots claiming scripture is truth and the word of god... you need help.. and please stop mentally fukking the children of today too... smfh

thats all.. the brainwashed wont listen because they are irrational and think faith in fiction has more weight than hardcore proven facts... for the few other intelligent people in the thread, keep up the good fight... everyday, science is prevailing and atheism is growing like crazy

Well said my brother. Mostly all fake religions just copy the movement of The Sun. It's a fking insult to The Sun to me. My ex wife tries to manipulate my 2 kids and takes them to church to worship a false god, sing stupid songs and believe in this horseshit they call christianity.

But, I will not let it happen. They always ask me what I believe in and I say myself. I tell them to believe in their selves as well. That they can accomplish anything in life if they believe in their selves. I tell them to worship The Sun if they want to. You can see The Sun with your eyes and NOTHING would exist without The Sun. Keep fighting the good fight my brother.

[TheAntFather]

[TheAntFather]

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[xdodger19]

That doesn't say natural processes are not created by God. You equivocated here.
concept 1 naturalistic processes of nature can not create life
concept 2 Natural processes are not created by God

[brainfreeze]

Where are you evolutionist when this stuff happens

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3428959/Indiana-home-portal-hell-possessed-children-chanting-satanically-visitors-saw-ugly-black-monster-torn-down.html

[Mr KLC]

[Itsamazing777]

I had my spleen removed and was in the hospital for a week recently. They told me it looked like leukemia. But they didn't know for sure A lot of people prayed for me All I know is after I left everything was negative, and no disease at all. And the doctors don't know what caused it So I definitely believe