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  • rkelly110
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    • 10-05-09
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    #2171
    Originally posted by raydog
    stop teaching the fictional bible shit to the kids and maybe the future will be better...
    History channel had a show on this. I believe the black sea's(?) (natural) dam broke and flooded that whole region.
    If you were living down stream, your whole world was destroyed. It could've rained 40 days and nights causing that
    dam to burst. As with any story, there's embellishment. Like with every lie, there's some truth.
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    • brainfreeze
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      #2172


      100 evidences that support a global flood.
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      • brainfreeze
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        #2173
        Guy spent ten years researching the theory of evolution...



        What is my opinion of the theory of evolution


        An extract from the Forward to my book will explain my position.

        "The theory of evolution is believed to be an incontrovertible fact by the general public and most of the scientific community, and is taught as such by most educators. This should not be the case.

        The theory of evolution is a valid scientific hypothesis, but the facts are that it has not been proved beyond a shadow of a doubt. To be proven valid, the theory of evolution must undergo the scrutiny (rigours) of the scientific method. This, however, cannot be accomplished because the millions of years required for experimental testing are beyond the reasonable limit of human observation.

        The current 'evidence' for the theory of evolution would not stand up in a court of law while undergoing judicial scrutiny. There would be indications that biased interpretation of data had occurred, as alternative theories could be presented to account for observed and tested facts.

        The theory of evolution needs its facade of scientific immutability lifted, and exposed for what it really is - an unproven scientific theory."

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        • ACoochy
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          • 08-19-09
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          #2174
          84923
          Last edited by Ihidalgo; 05-18-16, 12:40 PM.
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          • ACoochy
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            • 08-19-09
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            #2175
            Originally posted by brainfreeze
            Guy spent ten years researching the theory of evolution...



            What is my opinion of the theory of evolution


            An extract from the Forward to my book will explain my position.

            "The theory of evolution is believed to be an incontrovertible fact by the general public and most of the scientific community, and is taught as such by most educators. This should not be the case.

            The theory of evolution is a valid scientific hypothesis, but the facts are that it has not been proved beyond a shadow of a doubt. To be proven valid, the theory of evolution must undergo the scrutiny (rigours) of the scientific method. This, however, cannot be accomplished because the millions of years required for experimental testing are beyond the reasonable limit of human observation.

            The current 'evidence' for the theory of evolution would not stand up in a court of law while undergoing judicial scrutiny. There would be indications that biased interpretation of data had occurred, as alternative theories could be presented to account for observed and tested facts.

            The theory of evolution needs its facade of scientific immutability lifted, and exposed for what it really is - an unproven scientific theory."

            http://unmaskingevolution.com/main.htm
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            Last edited by Ihidalgo; 05-18-16, 12:41 PM.
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            • Bostongambler
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              • 02-01-08
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              #2176
              Well I prayed last night. I hope someone listened. 😞
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              • rkelly110
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                #2177
                Originally posted by ACoochy
                84925
                Many stories have been proven true. Watch a little history channel. Even after over 2000 years they can still find
                evidence of Christ and stories of the bible. Scientific/ physical proof. You won't watch that silly shit, why am I
                bothering to tell you?

                You guys kill me. You believe in science proof written by man, but don't believe the bible, written by man.
                Last edited by Ihidalgo; 05-18-16, 12:41 PM.
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                • muldoon
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                  #2178
                  Originally posted by rkelly110
                  Many stories have been proven true. Watch a little history channel. Even after over 2000 years they can still find
                  evidence of Christ and stories of the bible. Scientific/ physical proof. You won't watch that silly shit, why am I
                  bothering to tell you?

                  You guys kill me. You believe in science proof written by man, but don't believe the bible, written by man.
                  There is proof someone existed. So amazing in fact, that it wasn't written down for decades.

                  If no one wrote a thing about WW2 - but finally your son sat down in 2015 and wrote about it based on what his great grandfather had told your grandfather, who told your father, who told you, and you in turn told your child, how accurate and accountable would that version be? Taking into your account that your son still believed the world was flat and that sea serpents took down fishing vessels as punishment from above.

                  Lord of the rings was also written by man. Should we accept that as fact and proof of the people within?
                  Last edited by muldoon; 09-20-15, 09:19 AM.
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                  • zert
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                    • 09-22-09
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                    #2179
                    So you are saying the the great grandchildren of the apostles that followed Jesus wrote all the letters. That were later put together to make the bible.
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                    • muldoon
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                      #2180
                      Originally posted by zert
                      So you are saying the the great grandchildren of the apostles that followed Jesus wrote all the letters. That were later put together to make the bible.
                      I'm saying that for someone who was performing miracles etc, it's pretty incredible that there were zero mentions of Jesus until the 2nd century. That's a long time to have stories passed on (think the game "telephone" and how a simple sentence can change with people in a room in real time...now stretch that over a century)
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                      • brainfreeze
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                        #2181
                        Originally posted by muldoon
                        I'm saying that for someone who was performing miracles etc, it's pretty incredible that there were zero mentions of Jesus until the 2nd century. That's a long time to have stories passed on (think the game "telephone" and how a simple sentence can change with people in a room in real time...now stretch that over a century)






                        Scholars generally consider Tacitus's reference to the execution of Jesus by Pontius Pilate to be both authentic, and of historical value as an independent Roman source.[5][6][7] Eddy and Boyd state that it is now "firmly established" that Tacitus provides a non-Christian confirmation of the crucifixion of Jesus.
                        Last edited by brainfreeze; 09-20-15, 12:54 PM.
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                        • DARKBAY
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                          • 03-04-10
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                          #2182
                          People with low self esteem need something or someone to keep them in line...like a slavemaster that keeps the slaves in line. There is a movie called...The man who sued God. Check it out....laugh a bit and see some witty arguements about the existence of god.
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                          • brainfreeze
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                            #2183
                            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus

                            The vast majority of scholars who write on the subject accept that Jesus existed,


                            Fight reality all you like muldoon..
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                            • brainfreeze
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                              #2184
                              Originally posted by DARKBAY
                              People with low self esteem need something or someone to keep them in line...like a slavemaster that keeps the slaves in line. There is a movie called...The man who sued God. Check it out....laugh a bit and see some witty arguements about the existence of god.
                              If that's what you want to believe ...go with that, shrugs
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                              • muldoon
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                                #2185
                                Originally posted by brainfreeze
                                Scholars generally consider Tacitus's reference to the execution of Jesus by Pontius Pilate to be both authentic, and of historical value as an independent Roman source.
                                Couple things

                                The Gospels, considered to be pretty much the cornerstone of modern Christianity (and the accounting of the miracles etc) still fall in the timeline I posted.

                                I was under the impress Tacitus was born 20+ years after the Crucifixion.
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                                • muldoon
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                                  • 01-04-10
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                                  #2186
                                  Originally posted by brainfreeze
                                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus

                                  The vast majority of scholars who write on the subject accept that Jesus existed,


                                  Fight reality all you like muldoon..
                                  I'm sure a historical middle eastern dude named Jesus existed.

                                  Half the guys hanging around Home Depot are named Jesus
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                                  • brainfreeze
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                                    #2187
                                    Originally posted by muldoon
                                    I'm sure a historical middle eastern dude named Jesus existed.

                                    Half the guys hanging around Home Depot are named Jesus
                                    Don't try to confuse, this article was about Jesus of nazareth ..
                                    not some Jesus you seen at home depo

                                    scholars accept " Jesus of Nazareth " existed .... not muldoon though, smh
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                                    • brainfreeze
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                                      #2188
                                      Originally posted by muldoon
                                      Couple things

                                      The Gospels, considered to be pretty much the cornerstone of modern Christianity (and the accounting of the miracles etc) still fall in the timeline I posted.

                                      I was under the impress Tacitus was born 20+ years after the Crucifixion.
                                      The accounts were written by first hand witnesses ... The apostles, so lost muldoon
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                                      • brainfreeze
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                                        #2189
                                        Originally posted by muldoon

                                        I was under the impress Tacitus was born 20+ years after the Crucifixion.
                                        Although the majority of scholars consider it to be genuine, a few scholars question the authenticity of the passage given that Tacitus was born 25 years after Jesus' death.[42]


                                        If you would just do some research muldoon, info is readily available ...
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                                        • muldoon
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                                          #2190
                                          Originally posted by brainfreeze
                                          Although the majority of scholars consider it to be genuine, a few scholars question the authenticity of the passage given that Tacitus was born 25 years after Jesus' death.[42]


                                          If you would just do some research muldoon, info is readily available ...
                                          How was my research wrong?
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                                          • brainfreeze
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                                            #2191
                                            Most modern scholars consider the passage to be authentic.[42][43] William L. Portier has stated that the consistency in the references by Tacitus, Josephus and the letters to Emperor Trajan by Pliny the Younger reaffirm the validity of all three accounts.[43] Scholars generally consider Tacitus's reference to be of historical value as an independent Roman source about early Christianity that is in unison with other historical records.

                                            Don't know why you can't just recognize facts and go from there muldoon
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                                            • muldoon
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                                              #2192
                                              Originally posted by brainfreeze
                                              Don't know why you can't just recognize facts and go from there muldoon
                                              The guy who can only respond with scripture, is asking someone to just recognize facts.

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                                              • brainfreeze
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                                                #2193
                                                Scripture is truth, some spiritual.. Which you just aren't ready to accept,


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                                                • DARKBAY
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                                                  #2194
                                                  The bible was wriiten by people who with the pass of time conveniently left out or added what they wanted.
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                                                  • muldoon
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                                                    #2195
                                                    Originally posted by brainfreeze
                                                    Scripture is truth, some spiritual.. Which you just aren't ready to accept,
                                                    Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.
                                                    Peter 2:18
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                                                    • recon1
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                                                      • 08-13-12
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                                                      #2196
                                                      Muldoon, spell out your beliefs. What do you believe in? No childish shots at others, just say what you believe in.
                                                      Politics/Spiritual (if any) etc.
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                                                      • rkelly110
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                                                        • 10-05-09
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                                                        #2197
                                                        Originally posted by muldoon
                                                        There is proof someone existed. So amazing in fact, that it wasn't written down for decades.

                                                        If no one wrote a thing about WW2 - but finally your son sat down in 2015 and wrote about it based on what his great grandfather had told your grandfather, who told your father, who told you, and you in turn told your child, how accurate and accountable would that version be? Taking into your account that your son still believed the world was flat and that sea serpents took down fishing vessels as punishment from above.

                                                        Lord of the rings was also written by man. Should we accept that as fact and proof of the people within?
                                                        I understand and you are correct. The Romans didn't accept the teachings of Christ at 1st and would crucify,
                                                        jail and beat anyone who preached it out loud. Which is why it wasn't written for awhile.

                                                        Then you had King James who decided he would rewrite the bible to control the masses, which is why I don't
                                                        follow that book. The dead sea scrolls are the real teachings of Christ.

                                                        I was made to go to church until 18 of which I haven't gone back. During that time, I saw a ton of hypocricy
                                                        and for profit. Businessmen being members so as to push their products or services. And like you said, go to
                                                        church on Sunday and tip the bottle on Monday. Saw similar stuff like that.

                                                        Like my sports betting, I've bought many systems and conglomerated them into my own system. Just like
                                                        with my faith. You've seen some of my wild shit.
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                                                        • muldoon
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                                                          #2198
                                                          Originally posted by recon1
                                                          Muldoon, spell out your beliefs. What do you believe in? No childish shots at others, just say what you believe in.
                                                          Politics/Spiritual (if any) etc.
                                                          I have over 4000 posts here. Up until this point, you've been more than fine making your own assumptions about my opinions and beliefs, but now you'd like me to articulate them so you can better understand me?

                                                          Go pray on it. Let me know what sky-santa says and I'll tell you if you're right.
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                                                          • brainfreeze
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                                                            #2199
                                                            Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                            I understand and you are correct. The Romans didn't accept the teachings of Christ at 1st and would crucify,
                                                            jail and beat anyone who preached it out loud. Which is why it wasn't written for awhile.

                                                            Then you had King James who decided he would rewrite the bible to control the masses, which is why I don't
                                                            follow that book. The dead sea scrolls are the real teachings of Christ.

                                                            I was made to go to church until 18 of which I haven't gone back. During that time, I saw a ton of hypocricy
                                                            and for profit. Businessmen being members so as to push their products or services. And like you said, go to
                                                            church on Sunday and tip the bottle on Monday. Saw similar stuff like that.

                                                            Like my sports betting, I've bought many systems and conglomerated them into my own system. Just like
                                                            with my faith. You've seen some of my wild shit.
                                                            According to Jewish tradition, the Oral Torah was passed down orally in an unbroken chain from generation to generation until its contents were finally committed to writing following the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 CE, when Jewish civilization was faced with an existential threat.[1]

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                                                            • brainfreeze
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                                                              #2200
                                                              Originally posted by muldoon

                                                              Go pray on it. Let me know what sky-santa says and I'll tell you if you're right.
                                                              That doesn't sound like a gentleman's response.
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                                                              • brainfreeze
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                                                                #2201
                                                                Originally posted by recon1
                                                                Muldoon, spell out your beliefs. What do you believe in? No childish shots at others, just say what you believe in.
                                                                Politics/Spiritual (if any) etc.
                                                                Democrat ...check

                                                                atheist ...check

                                                                has a hate for God ...check

                                                                Very little class, if any....check
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                                                                • raydog
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                                                                  • 11-07-07
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                                                                  #2202
                                                                  Originally posted by brainfreeze
                                                                  Scripture is truth, some spiritual.. Which you just aren't ready to accept,


                                                                  https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=JN.UMqz...=0&w=300&h=300
                                                                  truth..lol there are very few, if Any scripture that hasnt been rewritten/manipulated/revised/COMPLETELY MADE UP etc. many many many times over... the bible is full of shit and for some reason, no matter how much of it is debunked, you dont believe it... its utterly ridiculous, bf.. you are an adult with a strong mind... i have no idea how one can ignore facts and proven science that completely debunks so much of this ancient book... there is a reason why the universe isnt mentioned and nothing outside of unrealistic stories are told...
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                                                                  • raydog
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                                                                    #2203
                                                                    he cant hate something he doesnt believe in... because there is 0 proof of its existence.. "god" and other "gods" make the world fukking dumber ...
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                                                                    • muldoon
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                                                                      #2204
                                                                      Originally posted by brainfreeze
                                                                      Democrat ...check

                                                                      atheist ...check

                                                                      has a hate for God ...check

                                                                      Very little class, if any....check
                                                                      If we're to judge a man by his deeds - you're a penetrating drug dealer who poisoned families.

                                                                      Oh...and Matthew 7:1-3 if you want to pull a verse from your book o' fairy tales.
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                                                                      • brainfreeze
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                                                                        #2205
                                                                        Originally posted by raydog
                                                                        truth..lol there are very few, if Any scripture that hasnt been rewritten/manipulated/revised/COMPLETELY MADE UP etc. many many many times over... the bible is full of shit and for some reason, no matter how much of it is debunked, you dont believe it... its utterly ridiculous, bf.. you are an adult with a strong mind... i have no idea how one can ignore facts and proven science that completely debunks so much of this ancient book... there is a reason why the universe isnt mentioned and nothing outside of unrealistic stories are told...
                                                                        As I told you, I've had a life changing experience.. Mind you, I've been stabbed, been on both sides of the gun, plenty of life and death experiences, this particular event was profound and to capitalize on it, I've seen things most don't see, in a few different ways..

                                                                        I'm telling you the truth raydog, the words in that book are real, very real... I know you have your reasons to not go deeper into Gods Word at the moment, but I hope in time you will humble yourself to try to understand this as best as you can.

                                                                        P.s my last few post were about a guy who studied " evolution science " for ten years .... See what he came up with, spare your time, and give it to God, and search your heart raydog.
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