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[brainfreeze]

Those who make it an absolute either/or are likely guilty of twisting both the Bible and the science. I respect your faith brainfreeze and I know for both of us it should come first, but when talking about the "they" that twist evolution be careful that you aren't including yourself. Be careful; don't learn the science from mainstream headlines and hype. I'm pretty sure you'd agree that we shouldn't get spiritually fed from those same sources.

For example, hopefully by now you know that the “God Particle” has nothing to do with God or anybody’s sense of God.

A lot of BS out there, all designed to distract from what is really important. I would say in our society, most of the BS is an attack on faith while science becomes the God. Seems the mainstream knows little of both. Of course, in the eternal battle of souls, the battle of good and evil, this makes sense. The bible warns of this.

I speak from scripture... Anything I say besides my testimony and scripture ... Is questionable, I'm a man... I want folks to question what I speak of, no one ever believes anything until they figure it out for themselves, I promote searching and seeking out truth..

[scumbag]

brainfreeze, don't you think the devil can get you by associating with the 'known degenerates' that inhabit this site?

and how does gambling fit into your religion? kinda sounds like the devil...

[brainfreeze]

brainfreeze, don't you think the devil can get you by associating with the 'known degenerates' that inhabit this site?

and how does gambling fit into your religion? kinda sounds like the devil...

I don't gamble money... Even if I did all things are lawful to a righteous man, not all things are profitable..


1 Corinthians 9:19: “For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win the more; 20 and to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the law, that I might win those who are under the law; 21 to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law; 22 to the weak I became as weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. 23 Now this I do for the gospel's sake, that I may be partaker of it with you.”

1 Corinthians 6:12King James Version (KJV)


12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

[KVB]

Make no mistake Freeze, folks are questioning what you speak of...lol.

Speaking from scripture is fine, but don't neglect the tangible world around you. It is through this tangible world that we are able to project Christ within us, so that, God willing, others may see it.

But seriously, here's the rest of my last post. It became so long, I just posted the first bit. Let me know what you think:

I really don't want to get too deep here, and this may be controversial, but understand that the Bible offers an incomplete explanation of our origins. Here's one small example of my view; a view you never hear in the twisted mainstream:

The bible says man was made from dust. But what did God make the dust from? We know he made the earth. For the authors and audience then, this explanation is far reaching and certainly enough. These days, we know that “dust” is comprised molecules, comprised of atoms, etc. To date, we’ve only found something like 92 or 93 elements in the entire universe.

It has been a wide consensus for some 40 years that every atom, every molecule, including those in every human came from an exploding star. I’m sure you’ve heard the phrase “we are stardust.”

Has science backed the Bible here (it wouldn’t be the first time), or is this just a coincidence? Is it just a matter of ancient, translated words versus modern words? Perhaps it is something to think about. One thing is for sure, if science is backing the bible, the champions in the media will never print that story.

While I’m getting personal and specific, let’s talk about Adam. In the Bible Adam starts out a man. I’m ok with this. However, I do believe that Adam, though a man, must have built in all the experiences and wisdom of growing up. He wasn’t just a man with no character or makeup. Even if Adam were never a child, it’s difficult for me to believe God didn’t give Adam the maturity that today people get when they grow up. (With one exception, clearly he learned his lessons about women much later in life……..hehehehe).

Likewise, God may have created man with the entire makeup from the tree of life, with an entire history of evolution already built in, and scientists have been unlocking that code, tracing backwards, for a while now.

Brainfreeze, I like and certainly respect you as a poster and I think we could probably go back and forth all day long here. You know science is constantly changing and that the Bible does indeed stay the same. There is wisdom in the ancient books, proverbs, psalms, etc. This wisdom applies today. After all, times have changed, but people, for the most part, people haven’t.

Although I question your trivial knowledge of science, I still think you are a thinker. As such, I would ask you for your thoughts. Your thoughts?

[brainfreeze]

Make no mistake Freeze, folks are questioning what you speak of...lol.



Speaking from scripture is fine, but don't neglect the tangible world around you. It is through this tangible world that we are able to project Christ within us, so that, God willing, others may see it.
I don't neglect it, it's just not important ... Flesh and materials die, the soul and Spirit don't

But seriously, here's the rest of my last post. It became so long, I just posted the first bit. Let me know what you think:

I really don't want to get too deep here, and this may be controversial, but understand that the Bible offers an incomplete explanation of our origins. Here's one small example of my view; a view you never hear in the twisted mainstream:

The bible says man was made from dust. But what did God make the dust from? We know he made the earth. For the authors and audience then, this explanation is far reaching and certainly enough. These days, we know that “dust” is comprised molecules, comprised of atoms, etc. To date, we’ve only found something like 92 or 93 elements in the entire universe.
Dust is dust... Dirt or "clay" .. He could've made us out of anything, He made it and us from His words, He said " let there be clay and there was... Just as He said let there be light.

It has been a wide consensus for some 40 years that every atom, every molecule, including those in every human came from an exploding star. I’m sure you’ve heard the phrase “we are stardust.”

Has science backed the Bible here (it wouldn’t be the first time), or is this just a coincidence? Is it just a matter of ancient, translated words versus modern words? Perhaps it is something to think about. One thing is for sure, if science is backing the bible, the champions in the media will never print that story.

As for star dust, stars are interesting to me, I do believe there's something angelic about them, they even led " the wise men " to Bethlehem for the birth of Christ. Should do more research on them, but there's a line there... between astronomy and astrology...

While I’m getting personal and specific, let’s talk about Adam. In the Bible Adam starts out a man. I’m ok with this. However, I do believe that Adam, though a man, must have built in all the experiences and wisdom of growing up. He wasn’t just a man with no character or makeup. Even if Adam were never a child, it’s difficult for me to believe God didn’t give Adam the maturity that today people get when they grow up. (With one exception, clearly he learned his lessons about women much later in life……..hehehehe).

Adam and Eve were made perfect, perfect beings,.. The first man and woman to ever exist, they were innocent as children as well, until Eve was fooled by the trickery of lucifer, their innocence was gone " they knew they were naked " ...knowledge isn't what people think it is, if it's just, it's beautiful, if it's corrupt, it's ugly and a disaster, the majority turn to be a disaster, because they chase the flesh, riches, and human success and are never content, happy, or full... Always more, more, more, just go ask madoff, gates, or clinton.. What's the sign of those apple computers a apple with a bite bitten ? and what do they call RAM, mega BYTE, Tera BYTE, and so fourth... But yeah, They were perfect.. until fall

Likewise, God may have created man with the entire makeup from the tree of life, with an entire history of evolution already built in, and scientists have been unlocking that code, tracing backwards, for a while now.

No evolving... We were made perfect " in the image of God. Yes, they are unlocking genetics, not a good thing, they will make it seem like it is but they are messing with what God created. They will say it's ok because they can read dna and put things in place that we don't get cancer or this and that... Trust me, it won't be good if they keep going on with this,

Brainfreeze, I like and certainly respect you as a poster and I think we could probably go back and forth all day long here. You know science is constantly changing and that the Bible does indeed stay the same. There is wisdom in the ancient books, proverbs, psalms, etc. This wisdom applies today. After all, times have changed, but people, for the most part, people haven’t.

Thank you for your kind words KVB, all the glory is YAHWEH'S, The Messiah, and Holy Ghost.. Yes, the words of God is better then gold, and I mean that whole heartedly, but we can't give up hope, people change ... I'm one of them

Although I question your trivial knowledge of science, I still think you are a thinker. As such, I would ask you for your thoughts. Your thoughts?

Let me know if you want me to elaborate or go further... and again thank you for the kind words sir.. Praise God, and love, peace, and faith be with you...

Answers in bold ...

[scumbag]

KVB seems like a pretty intelligent and classy person.

[bigtymer56]

I speak from scripture... Anything I say besides my testimony and scripture ... Is questionable, I'm a man... I want folks to question what I speak of, no one ever believes anything until they figure it out for themselves, I promote searching and seeking out truth until they believe what I believe..

Fixed it for you

[bigtymer56]

not big on the favoritism that god dude showed Seattle last weekend... you guys see the video where just about ever fukkin moron for seattle was praising god for something or another after the win .. i guess it really does hate green bay

penetrate them playing not to lose, didnt believe in God carrying them to victory as much as the Seahawks did.

Patriots shouldnt stand a chance considering Belicheck is the devil reincarnate.

[muldoon]

[KVB]

Answers in bold ...

Nice work Brainfreeze, I don't disagree but I feel the tangible is important, you are a physical vessel in a physical world, and God plans to use you to carry out His Great Commission. Never lose sight of this.

Again, excellent post and kudos to you, you wear your Armor well.

God Bless

[KVB]

KVB seems like a pretty intelligent and classy person.

Thanks scumbag, I almost nominated your post. Those words should be read over and over again. hehehehe

Seriously, thanks for taking the time to read my posts. There's a lot of words there and I just as easily could have gotten a "LOL, didn't read" GIF.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

[raydog]

KVB seems like a pretty intelligent and classy person.

not really... he seems like another holier than thou no proof goof who looks down on people who dont have the same blind unproven faith as him...another adult who was told what to believe and is scared into believing it...just another sheep...might be a nice guy, but he called non believers uneducated and ignorant because they dont have the same blind faith in an unproven god or in a completely doctored book full of fabrication and utter bullshit... irony at its strongest.. its embarrassing

kvb, after you tell us your "story" or how you were touched by god, tell us about the millions of unanswered prayers, hard times and the many runs of bad luck that you have gone through...

much like it has done for making a mockery out of the doctored bible, everyday, science gets closer to the facts about humans and the planet... in a few generations, i believe the idea of a god will be completely debunked... of course you will still have the weak minded that feel they need a crutch and will still refuse to believe in rational explanations ... and yet, im called ignorant for my lack of faith in the unproven

[brainfreeze]

Nice work Brainfreeze, I don't disagree but I feel the tangible is important, you are a physical vessel in a physical world, and God plans to use you to carry out His Great Commission. Never lose sight of this.

Again, excellent post and kudos to you, you wear your Armor well.

God Bless

…20"But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal; 21for where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

I think the world itself can be a beautiful place, the beaches, forest, animals, waterfalls, planets, and stars are amazing. I believe people are amazing as well, we are resilient, we love, we learn.... Life's beautiful, only perception says otherwise. When I say world, I mean the money, fame, glitz and glam ... The vanity, the wicked, greedy, prideful, hateful, sin that live in the hearts and minds of many...


God bless you to brother..

[KVB]

not really... he seems like another holier than thou no proof goof who looks down on people who dont have the same blind unproven faith as him...another adult who was told what to believe and is scared into believing it...just another sheep...might be a nice guy, but he called non believers uneducated and ignorant because they dont have the same blind faith in an unproven god or in a completely doctored book full of fabrication and utter bullshit... irony at its strongest.. its embarrassing

kvb, after you tell us your "story" or how you were touched by god, tell us about the millions of unanswered prayers, hard times and the many runs of bad luck that you have gone through...

much like it has done for making a mockery out of the doctored bible, everyday, science gets closer to the facts about humans and the planet... in a few generations, i believe the idea of a god will be completely debunked... of course you will still have the weak minded that feel they need a crutch and will still refuse to believe in rational explanations ... and yet, im called ignorant for my lack of faith in the unproven

Did you really even read my posts? Check yourself dude, I never even addressed non-believers in my posts. I called the believer, brainfreeze, ignorant because of his lack of understanding of science and the definitions therein. Did you get that last sentence? If not read it again.

In fact, Mr. Freeze accepted the fault and went back to posting from his area of expertise.
That's right; I argued with the believers and actually had a civil discussion.
This is where I should accurately insult you, but I won’t.

You are waaaay off here. I would never call someone ignorant for their lack of faith and I never did. You should read and try again. Scratch that, it’s ok if you stop trying.

You, raydog, either didn't really read my post, read what you wanted from it, instead of what was actually written, or are just plain lying on your post at my expense...not cool.

Regardless of your truth; your above post was quite irresponsible. You may have some points there, and I can give you a nod, but your gross misrepresentation of my posts does not go unnoticed.

In fact, if someone called you ignorant for your lack of faith in the unproven, I would take issue with them. It simply doesn’t work that way in my book and shows that individual lacks understanding.

No lasting beef with you raydog, but please don’t put words in my mouth (or post) that aren’t there.

Seriously, dude, that was irresponsible at best and a decent poster would apologize.

[brainfreeze]

Did you really even read my posts? Check yourself dude, I never even addressed non-believers in my posts. I called the believer, brainfreeze, ignorant because of his lack of understanding of science and the definitions therein. Did you get that last sentence? If not read it again.

In fact, Mr. Freeze accepted the fault and went back to posting from his area of expertise.
That's right; I argued with the believers and actually had a civil discussion.

I'm not ignorant to science, it's not my strong suit... but it's not a salvation issue, I'm more into Gods word, family, history, poetry, fishing, and other things... I'm not a know it all, never said I was, I come from the streets for real... I know how to weigh out a 1000 grams... that was my strong suit, I was a sinner, bigger then most.. I'm not here to show I'm a brainiac, I'm here to speak truth and to tell others to question what they believe to be true..

so yeah, I'm not Bill Nye or Ken Ham... If that type of thing interest you, there's more then enough one can research and study on ... It's still on individual perception to accept what they want... but truth, truth will speak to the heart, and one will know it when they hear it..

Peace and Gods love to all of you...

[KVB]

I'm not ignorant to science, it's not my strong suit... but it's not a salvation issue, I'm more into Gods word, history, poetry, fishing, and other things... I'm not a know it all, never said I was, I come from the streets for real... I know how to weigh out a 1000 grams... that was my strong suit, I was a sinner, bigger then most.. I'm not here to show I'm a brainiac, I'm here to speak truth and to tell others to question what they believe to be true..

so yeah, I'm not Bill Nye or Ken Ham... If that type of thing interest you, there's more then enough one can research and study on ... It's still on individual perception to accept what they want... but truth, truth will speak to the heart, and one will know it when they hear it..

Peace and Gods love to all of you...

It's all good Freeze, I too have had a change of heart from what I once was. I think some find it difficult that we can share and even argue are viewpoints and, at the end of day realize we have a lot more in common than we thought. It is a mystery to some that we can find a common ground, recognize we are human together and be civil. In the fight of good vs. evil, we know where we stand and we know the fight. I believe that when and if others can see it, they too would stand with us.

It's about understanding the human condition. Again I say, when it comes down to it, brainfreeze you wear your armor well.

[raydog]

Did you really even read my posts? Check yourself dude, I never even addressed non-believers in my posts. I called the believer, brainfreeze, ignorant because of his lack of understanding of science and the definitions therein. Did you get that last sentence? If not read it again.

In fact, Mr. Freeze accepted the fault and went back to posting from his area of expertise.
That's right; I argued with the believers and actually had a civil discussion.
This is where I should accurately insult you, but I won’t.

You are waaaay off here. I would never call someone ignorant for their lack of faith and I never did. You should read and try again. Scratch that, it’s ok if you stop trying.

You, raydog, either didn't really read my post, read what you wanted from it, instead of what was actually written, or are just plain lying on your post at my expense...not cool.

Regardless of your truth; your above post was quite irresponsible. You may have some points there, and I can give you a nod, but your gross misrepresentation of my posts does not go unnoticed.

In fact, if someone called you ignorant for your lack of faith in the unproven, I would take issue with them. It simply doesn’t work that way in my book and shows that individual lacks understanding.

No lasting beef with you raydog, but please don’t put words in my mouth (or post) that aren’t there.

Seriously, dude, that was irresponsible at best and a decent poster would apologize.

not putting words in your mouth...

"It's one thing to have blind faith, it's another thing to completely ignore the very talents and discoveries God has blessed man with over the years.

May God Bless the ignorant and may he lead them to His knowledge and the knowledge that He has given man.


[/QUOTE]

from you on the last page... i took that as you calling the non believers ignorant.. if thats not what you meant, i apologize ... but i have a hard time seeing it too many other ways... perhaps you were referring to the ignorant christians that can give christianity a bad name...either way, after reading the bold in that post, i wouldnt consider my post a "gross misinterpretation" no biggie though, i forget what i have typed sometimes too... its all good...

[brainfreeze]

It's all good Freeze, I too have had a change of heart from what I once was. I think some find it difficult that we can share and even argue are viewpoints and, at the end of day realize we have a lot more in common than we thought. It is a mystery to some that we can find a common ground, recognize we are human together and be civil. In the fight of good vs. evil, we know where we stand and we know the fight. I believe that when and if others can see it, they too would stand with us.

It's about understanding the human condition. Again I say, when it comes down to it, brainfreeze you wear your armor well.

Well KVB, thanks for the compliments but the world is headed for destruction, without a doubt... What I think some don't understand is when Yahshua the Messiah of Bethlehem comes back, He won't be coming with flowers and butterflies ... He comes back as a lion, He's the Lion of Judah

And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

Revelation 19:12I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war.

[KVB]

not putting words in your mouth...

"It's one thing to have blind faith, it's another thing to completely ignore the very talents and discoveries God has blessed man with over the years.

May God Bless the ignorant and may he lead them to His knowledge and the knowledge that He has given man.

from you on the last page... i took that as you calling the non believers ignorant.. if thats not what you meant, i apologize ... but i have a hard time seeing it too many other ways... perhaps you were referring to the ignorant christians that can give christianity a bad name...either way, after reading the bold in that post, i wouldnt consider my post a "gross misinterpretation" no biggie though, i forget what i have typed sometimes too... its all good...[/QUOTE]

A quick look at the rest of that post and the posts I was replying to should tell you readily who I was referring to. I was “firing bullets” at the believers getting the science wrong. But it’s true; sometimes I phrase things a little vague and even come across as condescending.

Thanks for posting again; it clears it up for both of us.

[jtoler]

not really... he seems like another holier than thou no proof goof who looks down on people who dont have the same blind unproven faith as him...another adult who was told what to believe and is scared into believing it...just another sheep...might be a nice guy, but he called non believers uneducated and ignorant because they dont have the same blind faith in an unproven god or in a completely doctored book full of fabrication and utter bullshit... irony at its strongest.. its embarrassing

kvb, after you tell us your "story" or how you were touched by god, tell us about the millions of unanswered prayers, hard times and the many runs of bad luck that you have gone through...

much like it has done for making a mockery out of the doctored bible, everyday, science gets closer to the facts about humans and the planet... in a few generations, i believe the idea of a god will be completely debunked... of course you will still have the weak minded that feel they need a crutch and will still refuse to believe in rational explanations ... and yet, im called ignorant for my lack of faith in the unproven

What you fail to understand is that true believers arnt walking around with blind faith. When one has the spirit of God in them that moves, directs, and communes with them, how are they supposed to impute to the unwilling believer what is living inside of them. Its no different than if aliens exist and a person has seen one, but another hasnt, and that person trying to explain that they indeed exist. Not only does God exists, he communes, talks(spiritually) with the believer. Yet if one truly believes in God and does what he says as far as getting to know Him one will find out He is indeed as real as the bed you slept in last night. He said humble yourself and seek the Lord God and you will find him, IF you search after Him with all your heart. He later says the same, "You will seek me and find me when you seek me with ALL your heart." Everything revolves around faith. Many times people will seek Him for a while and quit, well thats a lack of faith. Whenever the disciples failed in anything or couldnt heal or get something done such as casting a demon out, Jesus replied to them with the same answer every time, lack of faith. The problem is our flesh, sin puffs up the flesh, we live by our five senses, the natural, fleshly body you see of yourself, your children, every day people walking about, is not the real them, the real you and me is our spirit which never actually dies, which cant be seen with our five senses, when we sin it draws us further and further away from God, it changes the heart. For the carnal man its not an easy thing to submit, bow down and pray to God. The battlefield is the mind, thats where the war is waged, the mind is Satan's playground. When man is tired of toiling in the world, is fed up with seeing he really doesnt have the control of his life as he once thought, when life has literally beat him down, many times then he is ready to submit his flesh to God and willfully register unto the Spirit of the Lord.

[brainfreeze]

What you fail to understand is that true believers arnt walking around with blind faith. When one has the spirit of God in them that moves, directs, and communes with them, how are they supposed to impute to the unwilling believer what is living inside of them. Its no different than if aliens exist and a person has seen one, but another hasnt, and that person trying to tell explain that they indeed exist. Not only does God exists, he communes, talks(spiritually) with the believer. Yet if one truly believes in God and does what he says as far as getting to know Him one will find out He is indeed as real as the bed you slept in last night. He said humble yourself and seek the Lord God and you will find him, IF you search after Him with all your heart. He later says the same, "You will seek me and find me when you seek me with ALL your heart." Everything revolves around faith. Many times people will seek Him for a while and quit, well thats a lack of faith. Whenever the disciples failed in anything or couldnt heal or get something done such as casting a demon out, Jesus replied to them with the same answer every time, lack of faith. The problem is our flesh, sin puffs up the flesh, we live by our five senses, the natural, fleshly body you see of yourself, your children, every day people walking about, is not the real them, the real you and me is our spirit which never actually dies, which cant be seen with our five senses, when we sin it draws us further and further away from God, it changes the heart. For the carnal man its not an easy thing to submit, bow down and pray to God. The battlefield is the mind, thats where the war is waged, the mind is Satan's playground. When man is tired of tolling in the world, is fed up with seeing he really doesnt have the control of his life as he once thought, when life has literally beat him down, many times then he is ready to submit his flesh to God and willfully register unto the Spirit of the Lord.

SPOT ON JTOLER!! ...reminds me of something I told someone recently, about Peter walking on water... How could he ? Peters mind was on Christ, his flesh was light as a feather... but as soon as he started to think, look at what I can do or look the waves are going to drown me, ... he started to sink, but the Messiah pulled him up and saved him ... so faith isn't something we have or just carry around in our pocket, it's something that constantly has to be exercised, so yeah Jtoler... Faith and prayer, BIG DEAL.

[chilidog]

I believe in Zeus. Have you seen the movie about his son Heracles (Hercules) played by Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson? Badass flick.

If who don't believe in Zeus and accept him into your heart, you're just stupid and retarded. Everybody who's anybody knows that Zeus created everything.

Amateurs.

Oh wait, forgive me, my time machine must've malfunctioned. That's right, I'm in 2015, I'm supposed to worship Jesus Christ and his father. My bad. Carry on. Whew, that could've been ugly there for a second. I could've lost my head there. Imagine that, people losing their life based on what Deity they believe in. Humans are strange.

Now, continue on debating why your Deity is the right one.

[muldoon]

I believe in Zeus. Have you seen the movie about his son Heracles (Hercules) played by Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson? Badass flick.

It's Odin or nothing man. Back in your Delorean

[raydog]

jtoler, have you told us your story yet? the one where you realized god was with you... it seems like everyone here, that is a deep believer, has a story... if you have told it already, dont worry about it... maybe you cant point me to the page its on... i get a kick out of reading these... doesnt matter if there is anything to them... if something changed your life for the better, im happy to see it ...

[gauchojake]

An interesting Op-Ed on secular families

Recent research also has shown that children raised without religion tend to remain irreligious as they grow older — and are perhaps more accepting. Secular adults are more likely to understand and accept the science concerning global warming, and to support women's equality and gay rights. One telling fact from the criminology field: Atheists were almost absent from our prison population as of the late 1990s, comprising less than half of 1% of those behind bars, according to Federal Bureau of Prisons statistics. This echoes what the criminology field has documented for more than a century — the unaffiliated and the nonreligious engage in far fewer crimes.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0115-zuckerman-secular-parenting-20150115-story.html

[brainfreeze]

jtoler, have you told us your story yet? the one where you realized god was with you... it seems like everyone here, that is a deep believer, has a story... if you have told it already, dont worry about it... maybe you cant point me to the page its on... i get a kick out of reading these... doesnt matter if there is anything to them... if something changed your life for the better, im happy to see it ...

What is it with you and " stories " ... I told you mine, folks aren't here to entertain you, all of us are testifying Gods love, most don't want to be made fun of or laughed at and made a mockery of... me personally I don't give a lilly, what anyone thinks of me personally, I don't answer to man, my purpose is for souls and that one might be gifted with the Holy Ghost... I'm still praying for you raydog

[raydog]

^^^ yup gauch... guys who rob, rape and murder will go to heaven if they are sheep and beg god for forgiveness yada yada yada. my bad, i meant believers... but an atheist, who never commits a crime or is bad to others, has no chance at this heavenly afterlife...

adults actually believe this dumb shit... ridiculous way to live through life, imo

[raydog]

bf, when you come to the thread and talk about knowing god is in your heart or whatever, there is always a story behind it... if you guys bring this up, we should at least hear what you "think" happened... although you are all adults, you wont pay any attention to the obvious, so im not going to make fun of anyone who found a way to turn their life around...

[brainfreeze]

^^^ yup gauch... guys who rob, rape and murder will go to heaven if they are sheep and beg god for forgiveness yada yada yada. my bad, i meant believers... but an atheist, who never commits a crime or is bad to others, has no chance at this heavenly afterlife...

adults actually believe this dumb shit... ridiculous way to live through life, imo

All have sinned, not one is perfect...

◄ 1 John 1:8 ►

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.


if a robber truly repents (turns away) from robbing and sin, lives and walks righteously with the Holy Ghost.. He's forgiven, we all get this chance, everyone of us... You just want answers, and I told you sin has done this. The first murderer was Cain when he slew Able, sin crept in raydog, why is this so hard for you to accept ?

[raydog]

do you think all sins receive the same punishment? it sounds that way....because it seems like there is no limit to how much bad shit one can do to others/society and simply repent and be all good again...you have to admit this notion sounds utterly ridiculous

[KVB]

Not only does brainfreeze wear the full armor of God well, but he wields the sword of the Spirit mightily.

[raydog]

9months(or however many there is actual awareness) vs potentially billions of years and still 0 evidence... keep trying

[KVB]

lol...raydog missed the point.

[brainfreeze]

Not only does brainfreeze wear the full armor of God well, but he wields the sword of the Spirit mightily.


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Thank you brother, the glory is His, I still am in awe years later and what He still does... Beyond amazing, smh... Beyond amazing.. Yah is great... Hallelu-Yah !