Dagger I think when u compare a roster of pros to college you may have some better college players than the actual pros but guy for guy and especially at the skilled positions a pro team is heads and shoulder superior thats why I made my line -38.5 which is more than a 5 td cushion and I think in reality assuming USC would play a near perfect game a score of 48 to 9 would be realistic.
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So what are the names of the linemen that retired or were injured this year?Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
So u think the Raiders roster is a "all-star" while USC with 5-6 1st RD picks are not?????
Romo with one good season where he still threw 19 INTs and 0-2 in the playoffs is a superstar? Seriously?????Comment -
When I get home I can post rosters of the two and we can choose which is superior. It'll be fun.Originally posted by HAPPY BOY
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Yeah a guy with a 96.7 career QB rating isn't a superstar but Aaron Rodgers, Vince Young, Philip Rivers, and Eli Manning are. I guess that says it all right there.Originally posted by daggerkobeSo what are the names of the linemen that retired or were injured this year?
So u think the Raiders roster is a "all-star" while USC with 5-6 1st RD picks are not?????
Romo with one good season where he still threw 19 INTs and 0-2 in the playoffs is a superstar? Seriously?????Comment -
Rodgers 115 >>>>>>> Romo 97
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Quit while youre ahead dagger and wake the fuk up and realize youre god damn wrong. It takes a humble being to recognize theyre talking shit and thats what youre doing with your whack-ass logic. Think that USC will beat Oak and youre the only one here who can share the special opnion.Comment -
Sorry Dagger but everything you are saying is 100% wrong....Comment -
I think you mean you disagree. Given the fact this matchup will never happen we'll never know who was right or wrong.Originally posted by BuddyBearComment -
It's good to see you back Army, I'm with Dags up to a point, having read the whole thread I'd take USC +24.5, which is an adjustment from my original 17.5Originally posted by armyofloversComment -
If you are looking for a personal bookie, send me a PM or something....Originally posted by englishmikeComment -
Originally posted by armyoflovers
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Errr....How do you expect to be taken seriously when you're offering to take bets on a game that will never take place....unless you meant all sports, in which case, yes, pm your number, I'll fire some western union your way.Originally posted by BuddyBearComment -
How do you expect to be taken seriously when you say the spread between an NFL team and a college football team is -24.5.Originally posted by englishmike
Do you realize that New England was -21.5 agaisnt another NFL team last year? And now you want to believe that NFL and college teams are somehow close together. You really think USC would even get a first down against Oakland? Oakland is beating another NFL team today. Now should we believe that USC would only be +20 agianst KC. Give me a break.
Yes it is clearly hypothetical, but this thread shows more about the mentality of some posters. If you really believe that somehow USC is going to be competitive against an NFL team you need to have your head rechecked.
I mean, USC would probably get blown out by a CFL team let alone an NFL team.Comment -
It's called opinions. Whilst I accept you believe anyone who doesn't see it your way isn't in the same zip code as you mentally, I like to think I've got a mind of my own, even if it that means you feel it's inferior to yours.Comment -
Right, because upsets never happen in sports.Originally posted by armyoflovers
No way can Billy Jean King beat a man in tennis....
No way can a group of college players beat the Dream Team....
No way can Buster Douglas defeat the great Mike Tyson.....
No way can a college softball team beat the great US National Team..... let alone NO HIT THEM.
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Originally posted by BuddyBear
I guess no one watched the Super Bowl.Comment -
And how is that relevant?Originally posted by daggerkobeComment -
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24.5 would be my speculation gentlemen.Comment -
Originally posted by BuddyBear
Because it proves, once again, that anything can happen in sports?Comment -
If you can't see how stupid your logic is, I am afraid I can't help you anymore. Lot of guys have shown you just how stupid the idea is that USC could compete with an NFL team.Originally posted by daggerkobe
Look both Durito and Rjt have said that it is even ridicuous to think that they USC could compete....Durito said the spread should be closer to -70. Those two are among the sharpest guys on here....i think I value their insights just a bit more.Comment -
Our logic is stupid yet your logic is correct because Durito says so? lol, so follow Durito around and agree with everything he says. BBD says 24.5, is his logic ridiculous or is he just mentally retarded?Comment -
durito is so sharp he can forsee the future outcome of hypothetical pretend matchups?
Gotta love it when people are so sure of the outcome of hypotheticals even when given examples of real games where they were similary confident only to lose their ass.
You do know there are no right/wrong in pretend games, RIGHT?
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Originally posted by englishmike
durito the all knowing can forsee future results of games that will never take place.
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okay, i'll listen to you guys who think the spread should be -17. What does that say about your skills as cappers to assess the quality of a betting line? You guys are making fools of yourselves on here. Oh, and BBD does not know anything either if he thinks -24.5 is a fair line for that game. -24.5 is a much closer halftime line than it is a entire game line.Comment -
I guess no one watched USC/Stanford from a year ago. That's right -- mighty USC, whom many are suggesting would be competitive against the Oakland Raiders, lost at home to a college team that will struggle to advance a single player to an NFL roster.Originally posted by daggerkobeComment -
OMFG.....
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This is really just silly. An NFL roster, whether it be the Raiders or any other team in the league, is littered with college All-Americans, former first-round draft choices, etc. Even in considering how good of a college team SC may be and realizing they could conceivably feature several future first-round picks, that still leaves the majority of their roster that will never play a down at the professional level.Comment -
Originally posted by rjt721
Raiders record since 2003: 17-62
Any team can win on any given day. But it takes a special team to go 17-62 over a 5 year period.
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Please, let us know which of these Raiders are 1st rounders, ex-All-Americans and soooooo scary good:Originally posted by rjt721
Alston, Jon LB ACT 6'0" 225 6/4/1983 3 (Year) Stanford
21 Asomugha, Nnamdi CB ACT 6'2" 210 7/6/1981 6 California
27 Baker, Rashad DB ACT 5'10" 200 2/22/1982 5 Tennessee
35 Bowie, John CB RES 5'11" 190 5/11/1984 2 Cincinnati
33 Branch, Tyvon CB ACT 6'0" 205 12/11/1986 0 Connecticut
57 Brown, Ricky LB ACT 6'2" 235 12/27/1983 3 Boston College
56 Burgess, Derrick DE ACT 6'2" 260 8/12/1978 8 Mississippi
29 Bush, Michael RB ACT 6'1" 245 6/16/1984 1 Louisville
66 Carlisle, Cooper G ACT 6'5" 295 8/11/1977 9 Florida
18 Carter, Drew WR RES 6'3" 200 9/5/1981 5 Ohio State
59 Condo, Jon LS ACT 6'3" 250 8/26/1981 2 Maryland
89 Curry, Ronald WR ACT 6'2" 210 5/28/1979 7 North Carolina
58 Edwards, Kalimba DE ACT 6'6" 265 12/26/1979 7 South Carolina
50 Ekejiuba, Isaiah LB ACT 6'4" 240 10/5/1981 4 Virginia
31 Eugene, Hiram FS ACT 6'2" 200 11/24/1980 3 Louisiana Tech
25 Fargas, Justin RB ACT 6'1" 220 1/25/1980 6 USC
76 Gallery, Robert G ACT 6'7" 325 7/26/1980 5 Iowa
74 Green, Cornell T ACT 6'6" 315 8/25/1976 10 Central Florida
36 Griffith, Justin FB ACT 6'0" 230 7/21/1980 6 Mississippi State
64 Grove, Jake C ACT 6'4" 300 1/22/1980 5 Virginia Tech
23 Hall, DeAngelo DB ACT 5'10" 195 11/19/1983 5 Virginia Tech
77 Harris, Kwame T ACT 6'7" 320 3/15/1982 6 Stanford
75 Henderson, Mario T ACT 6'7" 300 10/29/1984 2 Florida State
15 Higgins, Johnnie Lee WR ACT 5'11" 185 9/8/1983 2 Texas-El Paso
53 Howard, Thomas OLB ACT 6'3" 240 7/14/1983 3 Texas-El Paso
24 Huff, Michael SS ACT 6'1" 205 3/6/1983 3 Texas
11 Janikowski, Sebastian K ACT 6'2" 250 3/2/1978 9 Florida State
37 Johnson, Chris DB ACT 6'1" 200 9/25/1979 6 Louisville
93 Kelly, Tommy DT ACT 6'6" 300 12/27/1980 5 Mississippi State
28 Lawton, Luke RB ACT 6'0" 240 8/26/1980 3 McNeese State
9 Lechler, Shane P ACT 6'2" 225 8/7/1976 9 Texas A&M
87 Lelie, Ashley WR ACT 6'3" 195 2/16/1980 7 Hawaii
85 Madsen, John TE ACT 6'5" 240 5/9/1983 3 Utah
69 Marten, James OT ACT 6'7" 315 4/18/1984 2 Boston College
20 McFadden, Darren RB ACT 6'2" 210 8/27/1987 0 Arkansas
79 McQuistan, Paul G RES 6'6" 315 4/30/1983 3 Weber State
80 Miller, Zach TE ACT 6'5" 255 12/11/1985 2 Arizona State
51 Morris, Chris C ACT 6'4" 305 2/2/1983 3 Michigan State
52 Morrison, Kirk MLB ACT 6'2" 240 2/19/1982 4 San Diego State
46 O'Neal, Oren FB RES 5'11" 245 9/8/1983 2 Arkansas State
98 Richardson, Jay DE ACT 6'6" 280 1/27/1984 2 Ohio State
26 Routt, Stanford CB ACT 6'1" 195 7/26/1983 4 Houston
2 Russell, JaMarcus QB ACT 6'6" 260 8/9/1985 2 Louisiana State
90 Sands, Terdell DT ACT 6'7" 335 10/31/1979 6 Tennessee-Chattanooga
81 Schilens, Chaz WR ACT 6'4" 225 11/7/1985 0 San Diego State
91 Scott, Trevor DE ACT 6'5" 255 8/30/1984 0 Buffalo
84 Shields, Arman WR RES 6'1" 195 4/10/1985 0 Richmond
86 Stewart, Tony TE ACT 6'5" 260 8/9/1979 8 Penn State
8 Tuiasosopo, Marques QB ACT 6'1" 220 3/22/1979 8 Washington
71 Wade, John C ACT 6'5" 300 1/25/1975 11 Marshall
78 Wakefield, Fred OL ACT 6'7" 295 9/17/1978 8 Illinois
84 Walker, Javon WR ACT 6'3" 215 10/14/1978 7 Florida State
16 Walter, Andrew QB ACT 6'6" 230 5/11/1982 4 Arizona State
72 Wand, Seth T ACT 6'7" 330 8/6/1979 6 Northwest Missouri State
61 Warren, Gerard DT ACT 6'4" 325 7/25/1978 8 Florida
19 Watkins, Todd WR ACT 6'3" 195 6/22/1983 1 Brigham Young
54 Williams, Sam OLB ACT 6'5" 260 7/28/1980 6 Fresno State
28 Wilson, Gibril DB ACT 6'0" 210 11/12/1981 5 Tennessee
Wilson, Mark T RES 6'7" 320 11/11/1980 0 CaliforniaComment -
Not sure who's comparing them to other NFL teams.Originally posted by daggerkobeRaiders record since 2003: 17-62
Any team can win on any given day. But it takes a special team to go 17-62 over a 5 year period.
Their record would be 79-0 with an average win margin of 50+ if they played USC (or any other college team) during that 5-year period.Comment -
With the current roster that I just posted?Comment -
Daggerkobe: I have never seen anyone quite as ignorant or as proud of their ignorance as you in this thread. Even despite today, OAK goes on the road and dominates their opponents, you still hold onto your steadfast belief that USC could beat Oakland on any given day? Umm yeah. USC can't even beat Stanford, yet you somehow rationalize that, yeah, it's possible that USC could beat a roster full of players who are bigger, faster, stronger, and more experienced. Do you realize the players on USC practice only a certain set amount of hours....they go to class moron! They are "student-athletes." Professional football players practice and train all day...it's their livelihood.
There is no circumstance in which USC could even be remotely competitive against a professional NFL football team. I doubt they could even be competitive against a CFL team.
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Branch, Tyvon CB ACT 6'0" 205 12/11/1986 0 Connecticut
Look at this "All-American" rookie from Uconn. That guy must be sooooooo good compared to all Trojans otherwise he wouldn't be on an NFL roster.
Schilens, Chaz WR ACT 6'4" 225 11/7/1985 0 San Diego State
Scott, Trevor DE ACT 6'5" 255 8/30/1984 0 Buffalo
Look even more All-Americans from SD St and Buffalo.
I am now convinced USC is doomed.Comment
