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  • willyback
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 11-15-07
    • 674

    #1
    There aren't many 'Sharps' on these Boards...???
    Is that a "safe" assumption to make?

    The forum is more like a sports bettors' online support group (need a hug).

    "Build your confidence during the day, blow your entire bankroll at night..."
  • mofome
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-19-07
    • 13003

    #2
    i win when i want.
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    • OLGC_Slayer
      SBR MVP
      • 02-28-08
      • 2186

      #3
      There aren't many "sharps" to begin with. Why would you assume they would all want to post their picks?
      Also, SBR performs a valuable service by protecting the rights of sports bettors, sort of like a sports bettors union, isn't it?
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      • AgainstAllOdds
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 02-24-08
        • 6053

        #4
        there are...you just have to know where to look
        Originally posted by SBR_John
        AAO = good dude. Buying you a drink in Vegas buddy.
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        • WonTooManyBets
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 04-02-08
          • 586

          #5
          I'm 7-1 this week, profit = $8500.
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          • Sportsgirl
            SBR MVP
            • 09-10-06
            • 4493

            #6
            Originally posted by willyback
            Is that a "safe" assumption to make?

            The forum is more like a sports bettors' online support group (need a hug).

            "Build your confidence during the day, blow your entire bankroll at night..."
            1. Assuming is never a safe thing to do

            2. looks like you're the one who needs the hug
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            • willyback
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 11-15-07
              • 674

              #7
              Originally posted by OLGC_Slayer
              There aren't many "sharps" to begin with. Why would you assume they would all want to post their picks?
              Also, SBR performs a valuable service by protecting the rights of sports bettors, sort of like a sports bettors union, isn't it?
              Point taken. Why empower the betting public? It only hurts your abilities to get paid in the future.
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              • OLGC_Slayer
                SBR MVP
                • 02-28-08
                • 2186

                #8
                Originally posted by AgainstAllOdds
                there are...you just have to know where to look
                whats your definition of a sharp? someone that makes any profit in a given sport over a season?
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                • willyback
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 11-15-07
                  • 674

                  #9
                  Originally posted by WonTooManyBets
                  I'm 7-1 this week, profit = $8500.
                  That's a sharp bettor.
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                  • katstale
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-07-07
                    • 3924

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sportsgirl
                    1. Assuming is never a safe thing to do

                    2. looks like you're the one who needs the hug

                    Man that was cold!!
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                    • willyback
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 11-15-07
                      • 674

                      #11
                      Originally posted by OLGC_Slayer
                      whats your definition of a sharp? someone that makes any profit in a given sport over a season?
                      Anybody that turns a considerable profit (year in, year out). Beating their bookie on a regular basis. Doesn't have to be on Billy Walters or Lefty Rosenthal status, but still has the ability to pick winners (whatever their individual handicapping methodology might be) and consistently get paid.
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                      • mofome
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 12-19-07
                        • 13003

                        #12
                        55% NFL/NCAAF/NCAAB aint no thing.
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                        • willyback
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 11-15-07
                          • 674

                          #13
                          Originally posted by katstale
                          Man that was cold!!
                          True, but it's stated from behind the comfort of her computer. It wasn't said to my face (in person) so, it really doesn't bother me. Everybody is free to say what they want (especially on these boards).
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                          • donjuan
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-29-07
                            • 3993

                            #14
                            but still has the ability to pick winners
                            Once you get away from the "winners" thinking, and towards the "right price" thinking, you'll have made a step in the right direction.
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                            • AgainstAllOdds
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 02-24-08
                              • 6053

                              #15
                              Originally posted by OLGC_Slayer
                              whats your definition of a sharp? someone that makes any profit in a given sport over a season?

                              That would be part of it but Im thinking more along the lines of someone who is consistantly finding an edge in games and then bets it and is on the winning side more than usual...I would consider LT to be a sharp but if you have a diffrent deffintion, you may think otherwise.
                              Originally posted by SBR_John
                              AAO = good dude. Buying you a drink in Vegas buddy.
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                              • Sportsgirl
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-10-06
                                • 4493

                                #16
                                Originally posted by willyback
                                True, but it's stated from behind the comfort of her computer. It wasn't said to my face (in person) so, it really doesn't bother me. Everybody is free to say what they want (especially on these boards).
                                Willy - I was just teasing a bit.
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                                • willyback
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 11-15-07
                                  • 674

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Sportsgirl
                                  Willy - I was just teasing a bit.
                                  I know - that's why I put the thumbs up at the end of my response ( ). Not taking anything personal.
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                                  • willyback
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 11-15-07
                                    • 674

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by donjuan
                                    Once you get away from the "winners" thinking, and towards the "right price" thinking, you'll have made a step in the right direction.
                                    Well of course you're looking for a good price/quality line.

                                    Post UIGEA, line shopping is extremely hard to do (if you intend on getting paid). There are very few books that an American bettor could use to shop lines. .
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                                    • willyback
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 11-15-07
                                      • 674

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by mofome
                                      55% NFL/NCAAF/NCAAB aint no thing.
                                      Getting Paid, Getting Paid.
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                                      • donjuan
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 08-29-07
                                        • 3993

                                        #20
                                        Well of course you're looking for a good price/quality line.

                                        Post UIGEA, line shopping is extremely hard to do (if you intend on getting paid). There are very few books that an American bettor could use to shop lines.
                                        Line shopping is essential, and not particularly hard. Also, I don't just mean shopping for the number, but realizing that there is never a wrong side, just a wrong price.
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                                        • Iwinyourmoney
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 04-18-07
                                          • 18368

                                          #21
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #22
                                            There plenty here, I would say at least 10
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                                            • SBR Lou
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 08-02-07
                                              • 37863

                                              #23
                                              I don't care who is 'sharp'. I care who is winning. It makes no difference to me whether or not that evens out over the "long term", who knows where we'll be in 2 years.

                                              Only tail those with documented winning records in the here and now. More specifically, only tail those who are HOT..
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                                              • willyback
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 11-15-07
                                                • 674

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by donjuan
                                                Line shopping is essential, and not particularly hard. Also, I don't just mean shopping for the number, but realizing that there is never a wrong side, just a wrong price.
                                                Point taken.
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                                                • durito
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 07-03-06
                                                  • 13173

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by willyback
                                                  Well of course you're looking for a good price/quality line.

                                                  Post UIGEA, line shopping is extremely hard to do (if you intend on getting paid). There are very few books that an American bettor could use to shop lines. .

                                                  nonsense. you can get set up in a matter of days at 25 B rated or better books with minimal effort.
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                                                  • willyback
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 11-15-07
                                                    • 674

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by durito
                                                    nonsense. you can get set up in a matter of days at 25 B rated or better books with minimal effort.
                                                    I'm not taking that risk. I play at well established books with reliable payout systems. Line shopping isn't everything. My focus is on winning the game.
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                                                    • HedgeHog
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 09-11-07
                                                      • 10128

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by durito
                                                      nonsense. you can get set up in a matter of days at 25 B rated or better books with minimal effort.
                                                      I agree 100%. I have 10 of those B or better Books.

                                                      Although funding/transferring to them has become somewhat more of an effort.
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                                                      • HedgeHog
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 09-11-07
                                                        • 10128

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by willyback
                                                        I'm not taking that risk. I play at well established books with reliable payout systems. Line shopping isn't everything. My focus is on winning the game.
                                                        What risk; they're top rated books (B and better). If you're overall focus is on winning then you need to shop for the best price. You're right about the absence of sharps here, especially the guy that started this thread.
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                                                        • durito
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 07-03-06
                                                          • 13173

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by willyback
                                                          Line shopping isn't everything. My focus is on winning the game.
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                                                          • donjuan
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 08-29-07
                                                            • 3993

                                                            #30
                                                            I'm not taking that risk. I play at well established books with reliable payout systems. Line shopping isn't everything. My focus is on winning the game.
                                                            So you said "point taken" just for the hell of it earlier?
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                                                            • BigOrangeTitans
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-23-07
                                                              • 4504

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                                              I agree 100%. I have 10 of those B or better Books.

                                                              Although funding/transferring to them has become somewhat more of an effort.
                                                              100% correct.
                                                              I have 4 books I mainly use, and 8 books funded B+ rated. Have funds spread over books depening on how often I use them.

                                                              Furthermore, a sharp is onyone who is able to consistenly win +1% or more of their bankroll at the end of the year over a large sample. Thats my definition. The size of the sharp is an entirely difference, as a sharp betting 100$ a unit at 57%is going to make far less than a $1k per unit sharp at 55%.
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                                                              • Ganchrow
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 08-28-05
                                                                • 5011

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by donjuan
                                                                ... realizing that there is never a wrong side, just a wrong price.
                                                                This deserves a shift from the gerund to the imperative followed by a repeating in red, blinking text.

                                                                Realize that there is never a wrong side, just a wrong price. --donjuan
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                                                                • donjuan
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 08-29-07
                                                                  • 3993

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Very good.
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                                                                  • pokernut9999
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 07-25-07
                                                                    • 12757

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I came name 4 of them. See above posts
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                                                                    • frostno98
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 09-11-07
                                                                      • 9769

                                                                      #35
                                                                      There are some talented poster's around here, and I absolutely believe they are holding back their best sh!t, I'd be doing the same thing too, if I put that much time in researching it. Plus, I think it's bad karma to tell anybody your lock picks.
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