There aren't many 'Sharps' on these Boards...???

[BuddyBear]

Right, A-....but when he says it is to be taken as the the "word of God."

Personally, it should have been an A+. He just couldn't concede that someone else had good ideas too. I guess if you get an A- from DonJuan you must have really earned it

[donjuan]

It was an A- because it was unfathomable that someone could say something remotely intelligent after spouting such absurdities earlier in the thread.

[durito]

http://forum.sbrforum.com/college-fo...-49472-p2.html

post #68....

I wouldn't link that thread if I were you.

[BuddyBear]

It was an A- because it was unfathomable that someone could say something remotely intelligent after spouting such absurdities earlier in the thread.

Back to being a pretentious pompous jackass right DJ....

When he says the same exact thing, he considers it godly. When i say it, it's only an A- and now when cought in an embarrassing moment like this he tries to rationalize how when he says it is "truth" and when i say it, it is an "A-", he says about me "something remotely intelligent after..." You see the hypocrisy of this guy. Never willing to give credit to others, yet willing to always pat himself on the back when he has the opportunity. These guys get real annoying after a while

[BuddyBear]

I wouldn't link that thread if I were you.

I would.

If you disagree with something, feel free to point it out in a polite and constructive manner. I am ALWAYS willing to listen to others' opinions and ideas provided their goal of discouse is to create knowledge and not to belittle someone. I don't know everything--not even close--but feel I have enough of an informed opinion to confidently present and share my ideas even though they may not be right. I am a smart guy, I have been in school for over 23 years of my life. I am more than capable of handling a well reasoned argument....

[The HG]

Back to being a pretentious pompous jackass right DJ....

When he says the same exact thing, he considers it godly. When i say it, it's only an A- and now when cought in an embarrassing moment like this trying rationalize how when he says it is "truth" and when i say it, it is an "A-", he says well "something remotely intelligent after..." You see the hypocricy of this guy. Never willing to give credit to others, yet willing to always pat himself on the back when he has the opportunity. These guys get real annoying after a while

Over/under on how long after 10 PM Eastern DJ will correct "hypocricy":

14.5 minutes

Over +105
Under -120

PM me to wager.

Offer not valid to employees of DJ or their family members.

Wagers graded at midnight.

[pokernut9999]

Back to being a pretentious pompous jackass right DJ....

When he says the same exact thing, he considers it godly. When i say it, it's only an A- and now when cought in an embarrassing moment like this trying rationalize how when he says it is "truth" and when i say it, it is an "A-", he says well "something remotely intelligent after..." You see the hypocricy of this guy. Never willing to give credit to others, yet willing to always pat himself on the back when he has the opportunity. These guys get real annoying after a while

What guys ? The same two that always appear in the same threads together

[BuddyBear]

okay, whatever....hypocrisy

[donjuan]

When he says the same exact thing, he considers it godly. When i say it, it's only an A- and now when cought in an embarrassing moment like this trying rationalize how when he says it is "truth" and when i say it, it is an "A-", he says well "something remotely intelligent after..." You see the hypocricy of this guy. Never willing to give credit to others, yet willing to always pat himself on the back when he has the opportunity. These guys get real annoying after a while

The only one who appears to think that I think what I say is the "word of God" is you. I have admitted I was wrong on here in the past 24 hours alone. The hypocricy [sic] is a figment of your deluded imagination.

[HedgeHog]

Over/under on how long after 10 PM Eastern DJ will correct "hypocricy":

14.5 minutes

Over +105
Under -120

PM me to wager.

Offer not valid to employees of DJ or their family members.

Wagers graded at midnight.

Under for the max!!! (Am I too late?)

[pokernut9999]

Under for the max!!! (Am I too late?)

See that is why I am not a sharp, I liked the under but was shopping for a better price

[BuddyBear]

This reminds me of that scene in Cocktail where Tom Cruise's character is in that business course and the professor keeps picking on him, and then he tells the professor to **** off and asks him what exactly he has done in the real world.

Same thing here, there are any number of guys who will dogmatically shove advice down your throat and tell you this and that and then tell you that your way of thinking is WRONG no matter what.

When they are asked to post their picks for all to see, those same guys ALWAYS say "no thanks..."

[durito]

Who is talking about picks?

[donjuan]

Piss poor analogy.

[BuddyBear]

How many guys have asked Don Juan to post his picks?

[BuddyBear]

Piss poor analogy.

Okay then, will you post your picks for all to see?

[durito]

How many guys have asked Don Juan to post his picks?

A lot of people who undoubtedly do not win money doing this and cannot understand why someone would not want to post their plays on a public forum.

[donjuan]

Okay then, will you post your picks for all to see?

You are not going to goad me into posting my plays with false analogies.

[BuddyBear]

A lot of people who undoubtedly do not win money doing this and cannot understand why someone would not want to post their plays on a public forum.

Right, but most people aren't going to understand why.

Most guys on gaming forums, not just this one, have huge egos. Lot of guys are stubborn in their approach to sports gambling and refuse to take advice from other people. Most guys think they can just look at the card and pick winners day in and day out or that they have a "gut feel" about this game. Very few can do that. Couple that with poor money management skills by a majority of gamlers, almost nobody wins. Yet nobody admits to losing. It's almost a taboo topic....most guys are in dick meauring contests.

It's like survey research shows that guys always inflate the number of sexual partners they've had and women always say the truth about the number they have. When you compare those two, someone is lying. Just like here, everyone says they win, but we know that most sports gamblers are losing. Someone is lying.


Obvioulsy you have to be continually line shopping when you are a value player. You just can't look at the board and post your picks the night before or 10 hours before the games. It would be much too cumbersome to post one's picks...not to mention all the value that lies in the halftime lines.

But most guys on here are too proud to take advice and will just say "post your picks" as a way to measure sports betting success. You could make great plays and still come out a loser.... I've always felt that if I beat the closing number, and I lose, well that's all I can do. I don't agonize over any of the picks I make if I got the best number.....I barely even watch the games. It's so stupid. I mean the other week, I took UCLA +2.5 (-105).....it was an easy loss. It was never really competitive. Yet the line opens up PK and I get +2.5. If I took Memphis -2.5 I would have won, yet I would always be a loser for making that bet. Most people will never understand that component of sports betting....you just can't chase numbers. You will ALWAYS lose if you do that.

Obviously I understand why he does not post, but my beef is more that Don Juan could really contribute a lot more if he actually presented his knowledge in a constructive way rather than a condenscending way.

I am a teacher in real life. I teach at a university. I am 1000 times smarter than my students, but I never present info in such a way as to degrade my students. How would they possibly learn anything?

[pokernut9999]

"I am a teacher in real life. I teach at a university. I am 1000 times smarter than my students, but I never present info in such a way as to degrade my students. How would they possibly learn anything? "


Very nice !

[wtt0315]

I am a sharp. it says under my name wtt0315 sbr sharp. See.

[willyback]

Wrong. By definition this is impossible.

Everybody's a cynical pessimist (especially on these boards). The impossible is possible. Complexity is overrated. Everything in this world (including our beloved sports betting) can ultimately be broken down into a basic set of principles/fundamentals. The question is "are you willing to sort through the various layers of bullsh*t complexity to uncover the basic winning factors of a particular sport?" Most people lack the thinking and patience necessary to accomplish this great feat. Their petty frustrations often give birth to pessimistic sentiments of "impossibility." I'm no sharp, but I've witnessed sharp guys turn profit with basic stat and situational analysis coupled with a vast understanding of the sports that they bet. Everybody has there own method of handicapping (superstition, probability, statistics, hedging, etc.). I'm not knocking anybody's style of sports betting (whatever works for you & your bankroll is a quality system in my book). When it's all said and done, the bottom line is to get paid.

[willyback]

You are not sharp unless you build a time machine!

I can't agree with that statement, but if that's how you feel... I respect your views.

[willyback]

I agree with you on that Hog, just not sure everyone else understands the value of shopping for the best number. You see a little of that in this thread from a few. Even in real life I interacted with a guy that knows football inside and out, he really does, is a great capper. Pretty good with money too, although very conservative and not what you would call a sophisticated bettor (he flat bets 1 or 2% of roll) he is extremely disciplined. However when it comes to shopping for the best prices he is clueless. Can't see the big deal in making a fuss of an extra point here or there, LOL. Plays into one book and will not even entertain the thought of increasing his outs, tried to talk him into it years ago. Anyway no big deal, just when I read the part that if you did 1 and 2 well then 3 would come naturally it made me think of players from the past I used to know.

I see where you're coming from now...

[trixtrix]

I am a teacher in real life. I teach at a university. I am 1000 times smarter than my students, but I never present info in such a way as to degrade my students. How would they possibly learn anything?

wtf?? how did anyone miss this gem??

a supposed university professor who don't even grasp the concept of line-shopping, and yet somehow subconsciously projects himself as 1000x >> than every single student he has ever taught, somehow is condemning another for having a holier-than-thou attitude?

..god, i'm running out of punchlines..

[donjuan]

Trixtrix,

That is ridiculous. A distant second in the ridiculousness stakes is that he assumes efficient opening line.

[HedgeHog]

wtf?? how did anyone miss this gem??

a supposed university professor who don't even grasp the concept of line-shopping, and yet somehow subconsciously projects himself as 1000x >> than every single student he has ever taught, somehow is condemning another for having a holier-than-thou attitude?

..god, i'm running out of punchlines..

Those who cannot do....teach.

[tacomax]

I am a teacher in real life. I teach at a university.

I teach at a university as well. I can drink up to 14 pints without throwing up. My dad's bigger than your dad. So what exactly is your point?

I am 1000 times smarter than my students

Unless you teach at Simian University, I really doubt that's the case. I wouldn't put it past a few of the monkeys to show you up.

Anyway, hope you revised your lesson plan and told your dumb students that R-squared isn't a strictly increasing function.

[tacomax]

How many guys have asked Don Juan to post his picks?

I don't know - how many?

If you think that someone proving they are a profitable gambler with winning picks will make you yourself a profitable gambler then go back to school and enroll in Chinese Proverbs 101.

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

[HedgeHog]

I don't know - how many?

If you think that someone proving they are a profitable gambler with winning picks will make you yourself a profitable gambler then go back to school and enroll in Chinese Proverbs 101.

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

If BB is 1000 times smarter than his students, and now wants DJ to teach him how to properly wager....wouldn't that make make DJ 1000 times smarter than BB (and 1,000,000 times smarter than BB's students)?

[greek]

i say if you are good you post your bets dailey ---so we can document your picks -------if you are SHARP THAT IS!!!!!!!!!

[durito]

i say if you are good you post your bets dailey ---so we can document your picks -------if you are SHARP THAT IS!!!!!!!!!

Why don't you send me your next paycheck.

[dodif]

i'm a sharp, i make $ gambling
I constantly struggle with my risk it all personality and "this is a very very solid bet I should go bigger" mentality.

Three simple rules

How much do I want to win?
What can I afford to lose?
How much time do I have to gamble?

If i reach any of those I stop. The time isnt usually a factor. When I break those rules is when I struggle with the amatuer in me. When I break those rules and win, I buy something really nice and dont question the amatuer guy in me.

[turnip]

One of the many funny things about this thread:

Someone who has posted at least 34 plays this month in the baseball contest is being criticized for not posting plays

[donjuan]

Someone who has posted at least 34 plays this month in the baseball contest is being criticized for not posting plays

To be fair, those numbers are rather stale and can't really be considered plays in the sense of playing against widely available numbers, which is generally how posted plays are counted.