Changes to the SBR point system: Effective Feb 15

SBR_John · 12-22-10, 06:00 PM

Grump was a not too smart scammer that kind of thought he smart.

OmgUrMom · 12-22-10, 06:04 PM

how'd he scam? was this way back from the point funneling thing? I suppose you won't want to share though if you haven't fixed whatever problem existed that he took advantage of.........which is understandable

Arsenal · 12-22-10, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by SBR_John

I think more correctly we wanted to even the playing field....

You are correct. I was far too harsh in my original post and I admitted to that in another post a few above yours where I quoted your reason for the rake fee.

If the no choice is either rake or much higher prices, then I will take the rake

Pinkstripe · 12-22-10, 06:06 PM

......

trixtrix · 12-22-10, 06:07 PM

it can't be a simple pts funneling issue, 50k pts is far more than you can funnel unless you use 100+ ghosts per day.

i wish grumperz and/or sbr would clearly state the case, instead of each side just post partial side of the story and we're left to judge based on incomplete information.

SBR_John · 12-22-10, 06:12 PM

I don't even remember that well. I think he exploited a glitch and transferred points and bet them and as I recall claimed the bets he won off the "borrowed" points he thought he should keep and just return the borrowed points. Like I said, not very smart ploy by a kid that figured if he screamed loud enough he would get something. Somewhere along the line we told to stop wasting our time. He must of forgot.

BigDaddy · 12-22-10, 06:12 PM

i just went through grumps point history and i dont see anything that would show he scammed points

nobody ever sent him any points

he sent points to a poster nasdog but that was late in his transactions and i dont see the big deal about that.

it seems he earned those points in the casino/book somehow

jjgold · 12-22-10, 06:13 PM

We are really clamping down on point abuse

Not going to happen anymore

BigDaddy · 12-22-10, 06:17 PM

i do see a few posters sent him points for a dr bob post early on

are those his ghosts?

BigDaddy · 12-22-10, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by trixtrix

it can't be a simple pts funneling issue, 50k pts is far more than you can funnel unless you use 100+ ghosts per day.

i wish grumperz and/or sbr would clearly state the case, instead of each side just post partial side of the story and we're left to judge based on incomplete information.

+1

it would be nice to know

yurnero · 12-22-10, 06:23 PM

no one is safe from the recession and inflation!!! not even our good o friends at SBR

TomG · 12-22-10, 06:24 PM

Apparently GRUMPERZ is now banned from SBR. Was it a conspiracy? Is there now a cover-up? We shall never know.

Kaabee · 12-22-10, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by BigDaddy

i just went through grumps point history and i dont see anything that would show he scammed points nobody ever sent him any points he sent points to a poster nasdog but that was late in his transactions and i dont see the big deal about that. it seems he earned those points in the casino/book somehow

this was a shit ton of points (about 7000) and in random threads for no obvious reason.

Bartmeister · 12-22-10, 06:27 PM

He gave Nasdog 6947 points. 3947 of them all on one day, June 5th.

BigDaddy · 12-22-10, 06:27 PM

tough to state a case when you get banned

BigDaddy · 12-22-10, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by Bartmeister

He gave Nasdog 6947 points. 3947 of them all on one day, June 5th.

yes i know but it was late in his history and he must have earned the points to give somehow

if he did earn them in a legit way who cares what he gives away?

that would be like trixtrix now giving some of his points away

he earned them fair and square so.

its not like his history showed different people everyday giving him 6 points a day

Bartmeister · 12-22-10, 06:30 PM

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...ml#post3439431 Maybe he is just a generous guy, lol.

Kaabee · 12-22-10, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by BigDaddy

yes i know but it was late in his history and he must have earned the points to give somehow if he did earn them in a legit way who cares what he gives away? that would be like trixtrix now giving some of his points away he earned them fair and square so. its not like his history showed different people everyday giving him 6 points a day

just seems weird because there is no communication in the threads and nasdog has almost no posts yet he's getting shipped tons of points in each post. doesn't mean he's guilty but it's definitely fishy.

BigDaddy · 12-22-10, 06:33 PM

true but how did he earn the points to give away

that is the question.

Kaabee · 12-22-10, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by BigDaddy

true but how did he earn the points to give away that is the question.

yes it is

Bartmeister · 12-22-10, 06:39 PM

I guess this is te reason: 181493 7/05/2010 4:49 PM violation of multiple acct rule

trixtrix · 12-22-10, 06:40 PM

tg is psychic, maybe you can look into your crystal ball and relate grump's side of the story to us, tom?

BigDaddy · 12-22-10, 06:40 PM

Today, 02:03 PM
Replies: 443
Changes to the SBR point system: Merry frigging Christmas
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Posted By GRUMPERZ
So I can get back the points you guys stole from...

So I can get back the points you guys stole from me? It's ok for Trix to do it, but you stole all mine???

BigDaddy · 12-22-10, 06:42 PM

the post above leads me to believe that he might have been pounding them on CP's as well

at one time i noticed they took boise -47 ov 52 parlays

this was at the start of ncaaf season

and the talk about justin also calling him a hypocrite

if he was i see no reason for points to be taken away

A books pay the player and either limit or boot them they dont steal from them.

this is all speculation though.

i have no facts to back this up just my thoughts on what i have seen

Arsenal · 12-22-10, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by trixtrix

tg is psychic, maybe you can look into your crystal ball and relate grump's side of the story to us, tom?

You do not need to be psychic to know if someone is banned. There are ways to check

TomG · 12-22-10, 06:48 PM

I would if I knew what happened. I don't know how he earned the points or why they were taken away. SBR_John doesn't even remember what happened. Apparently the only person who really knows is now banned.

Hmmmmmm...

mikejamm · 12-22-10, 06:49 PM

Wow! This bad ass thread is up to 13 pages! You've got to applaud SBR for crack'in down on the scammers! Screw those assholes, all they want is something for nothing and use up time, forum space, and SBR's resources trying to cheat the system! If they applied that same skill, (be what little idiot stupid skill it is), to learning how to cap games, they might actually get somewhere.

GELATINOUS CUBE · 12-22-10, 06:56 PM

IT'S-COOL.
YOU-GUYS-DON'T-NEED-TO-MAKE-UP-A-BUNCH-OF-STORYS-WITH-FICTIONAL-CHARACTERS-LIKE-TRIXTRIX-AND-STUFF....

WE-KNOW-TIMES-ARE-TOUGH!!!

THANKS-FOR-THE-PIZZAS!!

sideloaded · 12-22-10, 06:56 PM

Justin7 is a stand up guy if he said grumperz scammed I believe him. He is for the players. States in his book the sportsbooks are evil. Which I agree. Have you ever read blackies posts or any other sportsbook owner? Makes you want to take every single penny from them. Wannabe thugs.

gomiamigo · 12-22-10, 06:58 PM

Let the cover-up begin...

trixtrix · 12-22-10, 06:58 PM

oh my bad, maybe aceking complained and sbr listened lol

i'll make you a deal grumperz, if you're willing to pm me your explanation in regards to what happened in party-neutral wording (no profanities/accusations) etc, i'll be willing to re-post it on this board, i'm willing to take the risk of being banned.

i don't think sbr would be willing to screw over big winners, but obv if they truly cheated you then they would cheat me as well at some pt.

sideloaded · 12-22-10, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by trixtrix

oh my bad, maybe aceking complained and sbr listened lol

i'll make you a deal grumperz, if you're willing to pm me your explanation in regards to what happened in party-neutral wording (no profanities/accusations) etc, i'll be willing to re-post it on this board, i'm willing to take the risk of being banned.

i don't think sbr would be willing to screw over big winners, but obv if they truly cheated you then they would cheat me as well at some pt.

He's banned so I dont think he can Pm you.

SBR Lou · 12-22-10, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by Kaabee

just seems weird because there is no communication in the threads and nasdog has almost no posts yet he's getting shipped tons of points in each post. doesn't mean he's guilty but it's definitely fishy.

He shipped his second account the points so he could circumvent the sportsbook's limits on the glitch he was exploiting. Had he not operated multiple accounts to take advantage of it, he would have been paid.

BigDaddy · 12-22-10, 07:03 PM

trix it might be time to start thinking about cashing in some chips

BigDaddy · 12-22-10, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by Lou

He shipped his second account the points so he could circumvent the sportsbook's limits on the glitch he was exploiting. Had he not operated multiple accounts to take advantage of it, he would have been paid.

ok cancel the bets that go over the posted limits.

what type of bets was he placing?

sounds to me they were legit bets but he had the best of it.