Changes to the SBR point system: Effective Feb 15

[SBR_John]

None of these updates to the program are trixtrix related. Not one. They are all related to non-Pro's. The price increase covers the increase in points and the increase in costs projected for 2011.

With the amount of players I do believe it is a mathematical probability there would be a few big winners. I will admit trixtrix had some suspicious play early on which the book adjusted for. Since then he has been winning the old fashion way; picking winners. Let's get a math guy in here and ask them. I'm going by experience, every book with over say a few hundred players sees a player come along and go crazy.

[trixtrix]

None of these updates to the program are trixtrix related. Not one. They are all related to non-Pro's. The price increase covers the increase in points and the increase in costs projected for 2011.

With the amount of players I do believe it is a mathematical probability there would be a few big winners. I will admit trixtrix had some suspicious play early on which the book adjusted for. Since then he has been winning the old fashion way; picking winners. Let's get a math guy in here and ask them. I'm going by experience, every book with over say a few hundred players sees a player come along and go crazy.

No. The changes are obv aceking related. The guy has changed in 4k pts!!

[aceking]

I AGREE! KNEW IT WAS COMING!!!

its just a coincidence . (really?)

[kiln]

We are not trying to stop the lending and repaying market. In fact, I think we all kind of enjoy it.

From my experience, limited as it is, you enjoy letting stiffs, frauds, and cheats work their bad deeds with impunity and no fear of retribution. I would think that if you receive enough complaints from a enough pros about a single poster that'd be enough to make you want to do something. If you're truly interested in making this environment more hospitable to pros then you'd do something about stiffs.

[durito]

None of these updates to the program are trixtrix related. Not one. They are all related to non-Pro's. The price increase covers the increase in points and the increase in costs projected for 2011.

With the amount of players I do believe it is a mathematical probability there would be a few big winners. I will admit trixtrix had some suspicious play early on which the book adjusted for. Since then he has been winning the old fashion way; picking winners. Let's get a math guy in here and ask them. I'm going by experience, every book with over say a few hundred players sees a player come along and go crazy.

i wish you'd open a real money book

[aceking]

trixtix,

Rule #1: Don't be a pig.

[GRUMPERZ]

So I can get back the points you guys stole from me? It's ok for Trix to do it, but you stole all mine???

[trixtrix]

what are you trying to prove aceking?

i acquired pts yet used an overall of 1k pts (including the haiti donation), you're willing to finance and go into debt and used over 4k pts in pts store purchasing materials for personal gain (and have NEVER donated), you're far more responsible (if there any responsibilities to be passed out, which they're obv not) for sbr raising their limits than i have been.

what does it matter how many pts i gain if i never spend them (yet)? whose more responsible for a credit card company raising their limits: a guy who has a 250k credit limit and pays his bill on time, or a guy w/ 250 credit limit and repeatedly fails to make the minimum payment?

[P.F.Kasooff]

Seems reasonable to me.

[Igetp2s]

Thanks for letting us know in advance about the price increases. Much better than springing it upon us without any notice like previously.

[ThaddeusB]

what are you trying to prove aceking?

i acquired pts yet used an overall of 1k pts (including the haiti donation), you're willing to finance and go into debt and used over 4k pts in pts store purchasing materials for personal gain (and have NEVER donated), you're far more responsible (if there any responsibilities to be passed out, which they're obv not) for sbr raising their limits than i have been.

what does it matter how many pts i gain if i never spend them (yet)? whose more responsible for a credit card company raising their limits: a guy who has a 250k credit limit and pays his bill on time, or a guy w/ 250 credit limit and repeatedly fails to make the minimum payment?

Trixtrix is right. People cheating SBR of 6 points a day (or 12 or 18 or whatever depending on how many fraudulent account they opened) is a far more probable explanation for the changes than him winning 80k at the book and doing nothing with it.

[RudyRuetigger]

John, I will take 600 points on my 700 point wager +100 win (800 total) on betty white not hosting the academy awards. its been out for a month shes not hosting, i didnt know id have to wait until the academy awards

600 points for payment now is more than fair

[MBENZ]

Here is a prime example of where SBR needs to do something different.This guys 1st post is bitching about not collecting more money from a free contest.How many more of these freeloaders are running rampant?

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What happened to Beat the Prick winnings?

[COLOR=#000000! important]I went 4-0 (+5.00) which was great. Money was deposited into my account today which is also great. However, I checked the payouts on the BTP page last night after the Bears-Vikes game and the payouts were $243.75. Now they have alll changed to $203.13 [/color]

[pavyracer]

MBENZ,

I also suggested that a poster needs to have a number of minimum posts before he is allowed to play in the casino or book. I have checked several of the members who won big in the casino lately. They are members for quite some time with 0 to 2 posts and they basically log in everyday to collect the 2 points and go straight to the casino until one day they hit it big and cash out.

[RudyRuetigger]

MBENZ,

I also suggested that a poster needs to have a number of minimum posts before he is allowed to play in the casino or book. I have checked several of the members who won big in the casino lately. They are members for quite some time with 0 to 2 posts and they basically log in everyday to collect the 2 points and go straight to the casino until one day they hit is big and cash out.

itd be nice to have a "legit" post count, but i remember when sbr held poker tournies on bodog..a min of around 35 posts were needed and those fukkers would come add 1 word posts or smiley faces just to get in the tourney.

post counts wont help. i think everything should be done for depositing players only

[MBENZ]

MBENZ,

I also suggested that a poster needs to have a number of minimum posts before he is allowed to play in the casino or book. I have checked several of the members who won big in the casino lately. They are members for quite some time with 0 to 2 posts and they basically log in everyday to collect the 2 points and go straight to the casino until one day they hit is big and cash out.

Good suggestion,when are they going to listen?The case I mentioned above has freeroll written all over it.I don't care if John doubles the prices as long as the ones using the store earn it.St.Judes or any other charities should not be raised and the rake taken out.

[pavyracer]

itd be nice to have a "legit" post count, but i remember when sbr held poker tournies on bodog..a min of around 35 posts were needed and those fukkers would come add 1 word posts or smiley faces just to get in the tourney.

post counts wont help. i think everything should be done for depositing players only

I totally agree with this one. But it appears that John still wants the traffic from the non-pros and there are some very good contributing non-pros here who for their own reasons don't need to become Pros. Something needs to be done to separate the freeloader non-pros from the non-pros who post regularly but don't want Pro status.

[chachi]

We are not trying to stop the lending and repaying market. In fact, I think we all kind of enjoy it.

The apparent utter lack of interest by admins about the ongoing problem, the inability to enforce/collect debts, the refusal to consider liens against contest/competition/daily point accrual, the outright ban on commenting about any douchebag stiff outside the points forum, and the cold shoulder given to the concept put forth to have a points mod to police the loan market and forum totally refute that ...

We are not trying to stop the lending and repaying market. In fact, I think the mods and admins all kind of enjoy watching all the little kerfuffles kick off every day or two.

There ... I've corrected your post so it makes more sense now ...

Something needs to be done to separate the freeloader non-pros from the non-pros who post regularly but don't want Pro status.

Agreed ... I'd hope I would be thought of as to fall into the latter category

[BigDaddy]

you guys do realize that sbr can make profit from non posters as well

just because that guy above doesn't have 20k posts in 1 year mean that he doesn't bet and lose at DSI or other books after signing up through the sbr link and depositing money for the contest.

just saying...

i agree with the free loaders that never deposit but that person above has done nothing wrong IMO

[OTL]

This blows... I'm being punished for others that take advantage of the system. For the record I have never redeemed my points for anything.

[aceking]

what are you trying to prove aceking?

i acquired pts yet used an overall of 1k pts (including the haiti donation), you're willing to finance and go into debt and used over 4k pts in pts store purchasing materials for personal gain (and have NEVER donated), you're far more responsible (if there any responsibilities to be passed out, which they're obv not) for sbr raising their limits than i have been.

what does it matter how many pts i gain if i never spend them (yet)? whose more responsible for a credit card company raising their limits: a guy who has a 250k credit limit and pays his bill on time, or a guy w/ 250 credit limit and repeatedly fails to make the minimum payment?

try not to pull your stunts at reputable sportsbooks like Hollywood and Wagerweb , they may not be as kind as SBR .

[OmgUrMom]

I predicted this last week and people were all making fun of me. Guess who is laughing now!

us laughing at you.

Prices only increased by 8%. That is a lot? (considering tons of people are getting 12 points now instead of 6 seems like a very very small increase to me)

[OmgUrMom]

I totally agree with this one. But it appears that John still wants the traffic from the non-pros and there are some very good contributing non-pros here who for their own reasons don't need to become Pros. Something needs to be done to separate the freeloader non-pros from the non-pros who post regularly but don't want Pro status.

i think that was what this is all about. Non Pro's cant scam points anymore (or not very quickly at a 2 point per day rate).

and the things non pros can redeem with their points don't cost sbr much. (sportsbook freeplays and cash which are probably discounted by the books since its bringing in new players/money, i would think anyways) and sbr gear which is free advertising.

[OmgUrMom]

The apparent utter lack of interest by admins about the ongoing problem, the inability to enforce/collect debts, the refusal to consider liens against contest/competition/daily point accrual, the outright ban on commenting about any douchebag stiff outside the points forum, and the cold shoulder given to the concept put forth to have a points mod to police the loan market and forum totally refute that ...


There ... I've corrected your post so it makes more sense now ...


Agreed ... I'd hope I would be thought of as to fall into the latter category

dude point loans are at YOUR OWN RISK. THIS IS NOT A SITE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT LOANING

Can you comprehend that?

[trixtrix]

try not to pull your stunts at reputable sportsbooks like Hollywood and Wagerweb , they may not be as kind as SBR .

wow, low blow dude, you're willing to pump up the rogue books who stole my balance to get a shot in? why anyone would ever lend you further pts when you advocate books to steal balances is beyond me, hopefully future prospective lenders see this post and realize what a crock of human being you're.

dude why don't you go squat in sbr pts forum and beg for some more change so you can buy more sbr merchandise. lol, how pathetic is a someone who begs for a loan and spent 4k pts is trying to blame someone who have spend 1k pts.

yea, i'm obviously the fault of everything thats wrong in your life. talk about someone who cannot take responsibility for his own life lol.

[sickler]

MBENZ,

I also suggested that a poster needs to have a number of minimum posts before he is allowed to play in the casino or book. I have checked several of the members who won big in the casino lately. They are members for quite some time with 0 to 2 posts and they basically log in everyday to collect the 2 points and go straight to the casino until one day they hit it big and cash out.

Without knowing they could post one message on the forum each login to get 4 extra points.

[OmgUrMom]

Chachi, I'm not trying to be a bitch and I hope you don't take it that way, but why care this much about points if you have 5 figures in several books? Even if SBR scrapped the whole point system tomorrow, I'd still be here just as much as I am now and nothing about my forum experience would change. I don't remember signing a contract with SBR where they promised me X amount of free stuff in exchange for my participation. I wonder how many others feel the same way? And maybe that's a little bit of the point here.

agree totally

[Naz18]

you guys do realize that sbr can make profit from non posters as well just because that guy above doesn't have 20k posts in 1 year mean that he doesn't bet and lose at DSI or other books after signing up through the sbr link and depositing money for the contest. just saying... i agree with the free loaders that never deposit but that person above has done nothing wrong IMO

Exactly, if he cashed out on the BTP winnings then he must of deposited at DSI.

[trixtrix]

let's compare the difference between aceking vs. trixtrix:

pts spent on personal merchandise: aceking 4k+, trixtrix 1k+
donation to charity: aceking NO, trixtrix YES
begging for loans: aceking YES, trixtrix NO
advocating books to steal PLAYER balances: aceking YES, trixtrix NO
jealously blaming others for degradation of a public service:
aceking YES, trixtrix NO

[sickler]

let's compare the difference between aceking vs. trixtrix:

pts spent on personal merchandise: aceking 4k+, trixtrix 1k+
donation to charity: aceking NO, trixtrix YES
begging for loans: aceking YES, trixtrix NO
advocating books to steal PLAYER balances: aceking YES, trixtrix NO
jealously blaming others for degradation of a public service:
aceking YES, trixtrix NO

You forgot one.

Loves his points immensely perhaps because he doesn't have real money to bet with:

aceking YES
trixtrix YES

[trixtrix]

lol, yea i have no real money obv, does that make you feel better?

at least i dont advocate books stealing player's funds b/c they have more than i do.

happy holidays.

[BigDaddy]

sickler getting challenged to a 20k contest where justin holds the money in 3..2...1....

[OmgUrMom]

sickler trixtrix has more cash than you can imagine. He sleeps on a bed stuffed with hundos. I am not joking. This guy is big time.

[pavyracer]

One more thing about the new measures for non-pros. Since now the non-pros can only transfer 2 points per day (starting on Feb 15) why don't we eliminate the 1% rake fee for all the Pros?

[BigDaddy]

One more thing about the new measures for non-pros. Since now the non-pros can only transfer 2 points per day (starting on Feb 15) why don't we eliminate the 1% rake fee for all the Pros?

that is a great suggestion

pros should be rake free.