Guys I might be done gambling.

[SportsAddict]

This is the nicest group of people I have ever heard in one room before. Wish I knew more people like you are portraying to be in my life. OMG I think you know by now that you have a lot of supporters and I'm glad to see that this place I became a part of actually cares for its own. Wish I could offer more than kind words but all I have is the act of one mans, behind a computer screen, words to tell you he wishes you well. Remember that every success story comes from a broken path

[Grind-It-Out]

When I said I wanted to "kill myself" I wasen't meaning it literally. Was just expressing how I felt. I wasn't doing bad at all on sports betting but the poker was thing getting me deep.

My best advice to you is to get your problem out in the open to friends and family. You've only lost $2k so far. If you stop now, that's not really going to alter your life too much. At least you lost money that you had. If, on the other hand, you keep chasing at it, you could find yourself down a ton more, and with money borrowed.

Yes it sucks when your parents ground you for a month, but it's a whole lot better than ruining your whole life.

[thezbar]

Omg you hit a cold streak it happens to everyone. Shut it down. If you can't stop go to the bear minimum for awhile. Budget a percentage of your income for gambling and don't go over it. Save some money, work some extra hours. Start up with football in September. Losing two grand isn't the end of the world. Go out there and earn it back, week by week. At least you have a job.

[OmgUrMom]

thanks for the encouragement sportsaddict, thezbar.

I found a gambling therapy forum and I intend on posting there, made my first post a couple minutes ago, i hope they welcome me

[thezbar]

Here's another link to check out http://www.uclagamblingprogram.org/

[shari91]

thanks for the encouragement sportsaddict, thezbar. I found a gambling therapy forum and I intend on posting there, made my first post a couple minutes ago, i hope they welcome me

Great job OMG!! I know you're hesitant around others in person, so I think this could be the perfect way for you to gain enough courage to continue on with what you need to do to get some help.

And if anyone is not welcoming to you in the slightest over there, please let us know immediately. That damn forum will have so many new sign-ups who have your back that we'll probably crash the site.

Best of luck!!!

[SolidDala]

They ones here that says the man needs a month or two off then come back strong again needs to consider this:

Think of this, add up 2 years of YOUR savings, 20k, 50k getting closer? Now within a few weeks you lose ALL of this, tell me now after that happened that you will come back after a month and start betting with a bank less then 1K and you will be fine...

before giving tips, put yourself in the same perspective!

[SolidDala]

thanks for the encouragement sportsaddict, thezbar.

I found a gambling therapy forum and I intend on posting there, made my first post a couple minutes ago, i hope they welcome me

Great

[shari91]

They ones here that says the man needs a month or two off then come back strong again needs to consider this: Think of this, add up 2 years of YOUR savings, 20k, 50k getting closer? Now within a few weeks you lose ALL of this, tell me now after that happened that you will come back after a month and start betting with a bank less then 1K and you will be fine... before giving tips, put yourself in the same perspective!

Exactly. Great post Solid!!

[Emily_Haines]

Sounds to me like you lost the sports bets and thought you could get it back playing poker. You have to be in a good mental situation when playing poker so you are capable of making good decisions.

[Richkas]

I have lost my last 4 sport bets, ($100-$400 bets which is big for me on sports) I have lost my last 6 poker sessions. (-$800, -$100, -$1700, -$400, -$300, -$700). At one point I thought i was a good poker player, so much for that.

I have a $9 an hour job, no education and i just blew through my $5000 in savings that took a couple years to build. I am an idiot

Why do I post this thread? I don't know

Leave the poker alone. Too much luck involved. Guys like MonkeyFocker on here are great poker players but its just like BlackJack. If you are counting cards and the count is in your favor you can still lose your ass. If you still insist on playing poker dont do it online. Too much cheating.

[Emily_Haines]

1)GA Is a joke for compulsive moron slot players

I was forced to go to a GA meeting and it was a waste of time. You lost 5000 and in the big picture that really is not that big of a deal. These fuks at the GA meetings would bet every last penny they had and when broke steal/rob so that they can bet more.

[Emily_Haines]

Leave the poker alone. Too much luck involved. Guys like MonkeyFocker on here are great poker players but its just like BlackJack. If you are counting cards and the count is in your favor you can still lose your ass. If you still insist on playing poker dont do it online. Too much cheating.

Poker is a great game where you can make lots of money but you got to put in your time and constantly look to improve.

[Grind-It-Out]

Leave the poker alone. Too much luck involved. Guys like MonkeyFocker on here are great poker players but its just like BlackJack. If you are counting cards and the count is in your favor you can still lose your ass. If you still insist on playing poker dont do it online. Too much cheating.

Poker has the potential to be very profitable. The problem with it for the OP is that he's not emotionally stable enough to be successful right now. If you are scared of losing your money, you WILL lose your money.

[ngates815]

You can message me your name and password, and who you owe debts too....I will come on here and post once per day and pay your debts til they are gone.


Your welcome. I will let one of the SBR mods know how much points are owed, and they can close the account, when the points are all paid.


ohh wait, you're not looking to try and quit, this board is full of people that like to make up stories, this is just another one, and people always fall for it...too funny.

[Brock Landers]

where is JJ Gold chiming in here?

[OmgUrMom]

Sounds to me like you lost the sports bets and thought you could get it back playing poker. You have to be in a good mental situation when playing poker so you are capable of making good decisions.

it all spiralled out of control, once i got stuck bad i couldn't stop trying to get it back. After that -$1700 poker session i was really just giving my money away, i had no chance to win i was playing so badly at that point. So stupid

[OmgUrMom]

You can message me your name and password, and who you owe debts too....I will come on here and post once per day and pay your debts til they are gone.


Your welcome. I will let one of the SBR mods know how much points are owed, and they can close the account, when the points are all paid.


ohh wait, you're not looking to try and quit, this board is full of people that like to make up stories, this is just another one, and people always fall for it...too funny.

first off, none of this is made up. I wish it was a joke.

I'm still debating whether or not I have to quit these boards to quit gambling. I have enjoyed my time here and would like to stay, if I believe i can do that without having to gamble. I am not sure either way yet.

[OmgUrMom]

Poker has the potential to be very profitable. The problem with it for the OP is that he's not emotionally stable enough to be successful right now. If you are scared of losing your money, you WILL lose your money.

this is correct and thinking this is what has kept me playing all these years i think. Poker is a game of skill in the long-term (the long-term is very long, especially if you are playing live poker) but is very much affected by luck in the short-term. I understand the game and see other peoples mistakes (and my own as I make them). But if I can't control myself enough to simply play correctly then clearly I will not win at this game.

[shari91]

this is correct and thinking this is what has kept me playing all these years i think. Poker is a game of skill in the long-term (the long-term is very long, especially if you are playing live poker) but is very much affected by luck in the short-term. I understand the game and see other peoples mistakes (and my own as I make them). But if I can't control myself enough to simply play correctly then clearly I will not win at this game.

Anyone has to be careful nowadays when playing poker online. Thanks to MSN, GoogleChat, Skype, etc... you can be sitting at a table where 4 or 5 people are all on the same team, ganging up on you. And not only is not illegal, but some of the major sites ie FT, won't do anything to prevent it. Your best bet is to gamble in an actual casino - no one can share hole cards that way. Trust me on this one.

[RealSlimShady]

where is JJ Gold chiming in here?

JJ should make a video on this.

[shari91]

where is JJ Gold chiming in here?

JJ should make a video on this.

Awesome.

Could jj's reason for not coming in here be because he's actually looked at this thread and realised that someone is in a world of hurt right now and it's not the time nor the place to make a shithouse joke at someone else's expense just for the sake of a cheap laugh from a few people? Because they're the only ones who'd be laughing. If you've never been in OMG's position - and Brock, you out of all people should not be making light of OMG's situation, no offence - then you haven't been gambling long enough. Sorry, but it's true. 99% of gamblers have been barrelled in at one point or another. The dollar value might've been different but that is the reality of this shitty world we have immersed ourselves in.

JJ's a lot of things but I really don't believe he's low enough to take the piss out of someone who's been so honest about his current troubles. OMG is trying to get help. Where's the humour in that?

[OmgUrMom]

Anyone has to be careful nowadays when playing poker online. Thanks to MSN, GoogleChat, Skype, etc... you can be sitting at a table where 4 or 5 people are all on the same team, ganging up on you. And not only is not illegal, but some of the major sites ie FT, won't do anything to prevent it. Your best bet is to gamble in an actual casino - no one can share hole cards that way. Trust me on this one.

you are certainly right about there being many avenues to cheat these days. I have heard some pretty terrible stories, one guy believed he was being coached in heads up omaha play via skype. (his coach could see his cards) turned out his coach was also his opponent most of the time and thus new his whole cards. His coach blamed it on variance ect. ect. as long as he could. Poor guy didn't figure it out till he had a lost a few thousand on it.

I believe the big sites (stars is by far the safest, most trustworthy site in my opinion) full tilt and cake are solid but I have heard of Full Tilt confiscating funds in some very questionable cases. (some guy wins 86k and they now bring up his multi-accounting which has been going on for over a year. (had nothing to do with him winning a major mtt and if i remember right he wasn't really using the 2nd account to cheat).

If you report collusion they usually look into it and unless the players are very good, collusion will be hard to get away with. (i mean if the same two players are always at the same table pulling squeeze plays ect. they will get busted) most players who are good enough to do it without getting caught are probably good enough to be very + ev in the game anyways and thus don't do it.

Not saying your concerns aren't just, because it certainly does happen sometimes.

[OmgUrMom]

This is the nicest group of people I have ever heard in one room before. Wish I knew more people like you are portraying to be in my life. OMG I think you know by now that you have a lot of supporters and I'm glad to see that this place I became a part of actually cares for its own. Wish I could offer more than kind words but all I have is the act of one mans, behind a computer screen, words to tell you he wishes you well. Remember that every success story comes from a broken path

i agree lots of excellent advice in this thread and i am certainly going to put some of it to use.

[stealthyburrito]

Awesome.

Could jj's reason for not coming in here be because he's actually looked at this thread and realised that someone is in a world of hurt right now and it's not the time nor the place to make a shithouse joke at someone else's expense just for the sake of a cheap laugh from a few people? Because they're the only ones who'd be laughing. If you've never been in OMG's position - and Brock, you out of all people should not be making light of OMG's situation, no offence - then you haven't been gambling long enough. Sorry, but it's true. 99% of gamblers have been barrelled in at one point or another. The dollar value might've been different but that is the reality of this shitty world we have immersed ourselves in.

JJ's a lot of things but I really don't believe he's low enough to take the piss out of someone who's been so honest about his current troubles. OMG is trying to get help. Where's the humour in that?

actually i wouldn't mind a video on this. sometimes you gotta look beyond JJ's humor, some of his vids have some lessons to be learned, guy's been immersed in the grind for along time.

that's why he's an intriguing fellow, he is much smarter than the masquerade he portrays here day in and day out

[Karayilan9]

Your problem does not seem to be your game, you say you have built up a nice amount on poker and sports before, the problem you have is in the mind.

Money management for you is useless, for most people its pointless because they only apply it while they are winning. When the bad run hits all that MM talk goes out the window, all you can think of is the losses and how quickly you can make those losses back and you won't stop until those losses are won back but can't understand why you keep losing. In this state of mind everything you pick will lose, everything you do will lose, its the losers mentality and it will take everything in your account. This irrational mental state will have such a negative effect on your judgment that whatever you do it won't win.

Alot of people new to the game are very arrogant, win a few thousand and think they invented the wheel, they become so self-obsessed in their own greatness that all it takes is a few losses to take these big egos over the edge. Never think you are great, always remember you can improve.

Anybody can go on a winning streak, a good cappers worth is how he deals with the losses, nobody wins 100% so ask yourself why a few bad beats tips you over the edge.

When you learn some discipline, how to control your emotions and humility then you can succeed in anything in life, Money Management and different theories will start to be of use to you but until then you will just go round and round in a loop. You will forget these losses can some time in the future have another breakdown.

[OmgUrMom]

very good post karayilan9, i agree if i don't figure out why i can't handle a few bad beats this will probably happen again in the future

[no1here]

Ok, I will be contacting my fellow SBR carnal's.... Like I said, if we can get it up to $300.00 I will put it in an account for you at the book of your choice. I am donating $50.00 but we need 250 more.

I like the idea if lessons are involved. I believe that we COULD and SHOULD be taking individuals and seeing how far we can advance them. OmgUrMom needs self discipline and money management. If it was set up to where-as his bets amounts were being controlled I will pitch in IF can do so through poker site.

[Karayilan9]

very good post karayilan9, i agree if i don't figure out why i can't handle a few bad beats this will probably happen again in the future

Its psychological, if you have ever seen somebody on full tilt you will know what I mean. They don't suddenly lose the ability to cap, they become irrational, impulsive and act like a desperate crack head hunting down his next fix. They need that action and will take every piece of action available until they everything in the account. When your thinking about making back a loss your already in a losers mentality and the losses will start piling up.

Next time you take a bad beat, turn off the computer, leave the house and just get away from it for as long as it takes, half an hour, a few hour, a day, whatever works. Get outside, talk to a nice girl, for the first time she won't have a guy staring at her breasts telling her how hot she it which will make's it easier to get a hotty go gym, swimming, have a walk, just calm down.

You most likely to lose more after a bad loss until you learn some discipline.

[Jrod124]

Great thread there. OMG I am glad u are getting help. It will all be better in a month man if u dont gamble. Just take a break

[manny24]

your goal should be to break even 'cause breaking even is winning...ask jj.

[OmgUrMom]

i wish i was break-even 4 life, for a guy like me JJ is completely right. For most gamblers he is probably right.

I appreciate the points, thanks manny24

[OmgUrMom]

been reading a lot of gambling literature today and ran across this survey, safe to say the results were not good

1. Did you ever lose time from work or school due to gambling? Yes (called in many times to work, used to skip school occasionally to play online poker as well)
2. Has gambling ever made your home life unhappy? yes, family hates me for it.
3. Did gambling affect your reputation? Yes
4. Have you ever felt remorse after gambling? Yes
5. Did you ever gamble to get money with which to pay debts or otherwise solve financial difficulties? Yes
6. Did gambling cause a decrease in your ambition or efficiency? Yes
7. After losing did you feel you must return as soon as possible and win back your losses? yes, my problems are increased 10 fold when i'm stuck big.
8. After a win did you have a strong urge to return and win more? Yes
9. Did you often gamble until your last dollar was gone? Yes, and literally, i've almost run of out gas returning from the casino because i spent every dollar in my wallet. Even though I told myself that i had to leave a $20 for gas.
10. Did you ever borrow to finance your gambling? Yes
11. Have you ever sold anything to finance gambling? Yes (xbox)
12. Were you reluctant to use "gambling money" for normal expenditures? Yes, I haven't made a big purchase for myself in awhile now, mostly to help build my bankroll.
13. Did gambling make you careless of the welfare of yourself or your family? Yes
14. Did you ever gamble longer than you had planned? Yes (i've played a 30 hour session live trying to get un-stuck, that certainly was not the plan )
15. Have you ever gambled to escape worry, trouble, boredom or loneliness? Yes, this is my biggest problem when I have tried to quit in the past.
16. Have you ever committed, or considered committing, an illegal act to finance gambling? Yes, I've considered it (not seriously I don't think but just in passing), thankfully i have not ever done anything though.
17. Did gambling cause you to have difficulty in sleeping? Yes, weird part is I usually sleep fine when I don't have a roll, but when I have a bankroll that excitement builds up to play and I have a tougher time sleeping.
18. Do arguments, disappointments or frustrations create within you an urge to gamble? Yes
19. Did you ever have an urge to celebrate any good fortune by a few hours of gambling? No, this is my only no
20. Have you ever considered self destruction or suicide as a result of your gambling? Yes

19 of 20 and they say most compulsive gamblers have 7 or more.

I am messed up

[Grind-It-Out]

been reading a lot of gambling literature today and ran across this survey, safe to say the results were not good

1. Did you ever lose time from work or school due to gambling? Yes (called in many times to work, used to skip school occasionally to play online poker as well)
2. Has gambling ever made your home life unhappy? yes, family hates me for it.
3. Did gambling affect your reputation? Yes
4. Have you ever felt remorse after gambling? Yes
5. Did you ever gamble to get money with which to pay debts or otherwise solve financial difficulties? Yes
6. Did gambling cause a decrease in your ambition or efficiency? Yes
7. After losing did you feel you must return as soon as possible and win back your losses? yes, my problems are increased 10 fold when i'm stuck big.
8. After a win did you have a strong urge to return and win more? Yes
9. Did you often gamble until your last dollar was gone? Yes, and literally, i've almost run of out gas returning from the casino because i spent every dollar in my wallet. Even though I told myself that i had to leave a $20 for gas.
10. Did you ever borrow to finance your gambling? Yes
11. Have you ever sold anything to finance gambling? Yes (xbox)
12. Were you reluctant to use "gambling money" for normal expenditures? Yes, I haven't made a big purchase for myself in awhile now, mostly to help build my bankroll.
13. Did gambling make you careless of the welfare of yourself or your family? Yes
14. Did you ever gamble longer than you had planned? Yes (i've played a 30 hour session live trying to get un-stuck, that certainly was not the plan )
15. Have you ever gambled to escape worry, trouble, boredom or loneliness? Yes, this is my biggest problem when I have tried to quit in the past.
16. Have you ever committed, or considered committing, an illegal act to finance gambling? Yes, I've considered it (not seriously I don't think but just in passing), thankfully i have not ever done anything though.
17. Did gambling cause you to have difficulty in sleeping? Yes, weird part is I usually sleep fine when I don't have a roll, but when I have a bankroll that excitement builds up to play and I have a tougher time sleeping.
18. Do arguments, disappointments or frustrations create within you an urge to gamble? Yes
19. Did you ever have an urge to celebrate any good fortune by a few hours of gambling? No, this is my only no
20. Have you ever considered self destruction or suicide as a result of your gambling? Yes

19 of 20 and they say most compulsive gamblers have 7 or more.

I am messed up

Shit, I had 5 out of 20 yes. I guess I'm almost compulsive

[mrmarket]

You're doing it wrong if you actually want to quit gambling by accepting these points donations. They are just going to keep you hooked on your addiction. You'll get the action from the points in SBR book but then it won't be enough and it'll be back to real money. One cold streak and it's martingale bust once again and you're back to step 1. Sure your "learning" how to do it well now. Just like you knew it before. You have no self control for this and aren't made to be playing. Just quit guy please.

And you guys enabling him with money/points just stop. Get you jimmies elsewhere. Are you so ****ing insecure to bask in this guys failure by making him continue? Do you really think you're helping this guy? Get real.

Anyway I'm done with offering help. OMG I think your comfortable even busto and don't want to change or get help. Pretty evident by how this thread progressed. I'm sorry to see it end this way.