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  • homie1975
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    • 12-24-13
    • 15452

    #2591
    Originally posted by milwaukee mike
    i guess my point is that qqq lost over 80% between 2000-2002... then lost 50% 2008/2009

    losing 5-10% after a 900% up move isn't a bargain, wait for a huge dump
    That 2000 to 2002 huge drop was during the dot.com bubble burst. L18Y no drop anywhere near that.
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    • milwaukee mike
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      • 08-22-07
      • 26914

      #2592
      Originally posted by homie1975
      I DCA and it's worked well for me
      dollar cost averaging is like everything else, it works until it doesn't.

      a huge % of these tech earnings are based on government contracts, how long do you think the us govt can keep running trillion dollar deficits?

      stock market/economy historically has major issues every 7 years (shemitah)... 1980/1987/1994/2001/2008 and then 2015 nothing happened, so did that just get skipped to 2020, or 2022?

      things get overbuilt and overbought which creates bubbles, and those usually don't get fixed by a 10% move, coronavirus is just the latest excuse, like 9/11, housing crisis, long-term capital management, etc
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      • Sanity Check
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        • 03-30-13
        • 10962

        #2593
        Originally posted by milwaukee mike
        things get overbuilt and overbought which creates bubbles, and those usually don't get fixed by a 10% move, coronavirus is just the latest excuse, like 9/11, housing crisis, long-term capital management, etc

        hegelian dialectic
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        • milwaukee mike
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          • 08-22-07
          • 26914

          #2594
          jeez here we go again, rallies just an excuse for selling, +350 now back to even.

          my hotel stocks and stuff like amc/six flags that rely on crowds just continue to be crushed
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          • Sanity Check
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            • 03-30-13
            • 10962

            #2595
            I wouldn't expect a full recovery.

            Until we hit peak crisis.
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            • homie1975
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-24-13
              • 15452

              #2596
              Originally posted by milwaukee mike
              jeez here we go again, rallies just an excuse for selling, +350 now back to even.

              my hotel stocks and stuff like amc/six flags that rely on crowds just continue to be crushed
              as they are dipping below your cost you should DCA every 10-15% drop and simply lower your cost. you will make out like a bandit but you have to wait 4-5 years.

              it is worth the wait
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              • milwaukee mike
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                • 08-22-07
                • 26914

                #2597
                Originally posted by homie1975
                as they are dipping below your cost you should DCA every 10-15% drop and simply lower your cost. you will make out like a bandit but you have to wait 4-5 years.

                it is worth the wait
                depends on the company/asset... some of these things are going bankrupt... in the meantime you're right there are opportunities, i play a lot in the preferred stocks, check out this arbitrage

                pei-c 13.02
                pei-d 17.20

                so the d shares are over 4 points higher, they have the same value of $25/share, same liquidation value, and the c shares pay the higher dividend. the spread actually got to around 5 points today on decent volume, so anyone could've made an easy 40% or so arbitrage and could still make quite a bit if they have a broker allowing shorts on preferreds.
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                • jjgold
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                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #2598
                  long term men

                  short term you get buired
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                  • MinnesotaFats
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                    • 12-18-10
                    • 14758

                    #2599
                    Most of the SP500 going to miss 1st and 2nd qtr earnings and yearly guidance will be downgraded.

                    Theres another 15% drop coming, however, it will bounce back over next 2-4 years....just can't have stocks valued at 40xs earnings...that's what's happening with all these misses and downgrades.
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                    • RoyBacon
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                      • 09-21-05
                      • 37074

                      #2600
                      Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                      Most of the SP500 going to miss 1st and 2nd qtr earnings and yearly guidance will be downgraded.

                      Theres another 15% drop coming, however, it will bounce back over next 2-4 years....just can't have stocks valued at 40xs earnings...that's what's happening with all these misses and downgrades.
                      Won't be 2-4 years. The 2nd half of '20 will be strong assuming Sanders does not win.
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                      • chico2663
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                        • 09-02-10
                        • 36915

                        #2601
                        Suck must be shitting. I know I am.20 drop is 4 days.
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                        • RoyBacon
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                          • 09-21-05
                          • 37074

                          #2602
                          Originally posted by chico2663
                          Suck must be shitting. I know I am.20 drop is 4 days.
                          Suck is defintely shitting. I'm going to start buying a little tomorrow. It could take a couple of months so a few buys in the middle of the declines.
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                          • chico2663
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                            • 09-02-10
                            • 36915

                            #2603
                            yes,zuck the suck is crying.
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                            • cincinnatikid513
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                              • 11-23-17
                              • 45360

                              #2604
                              anyone got,this stock, ur having a good day

                              <a href="https://ibb.co/GWjtwNr"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/McLGTQJ/Screenshot-2020-02-27-12-46-49.png" alt="Screenshot-2020-02-27-12-46-49" border="0"></a>
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                              • INVEGA MAN
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-30-08
                                • 6800

                                #2605
                                Down another 400 today!! Oh my!!
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                                • homie1975
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 12-24-13
                                  • 15452

                                  #2606
                                  Originally posted by INVEGA MAN
                                  Down another 400 today!! Oh my!!

                                  it was down 900 early in the session. now down only 300ish

                                  quite a comeback that even the most negative people in the world cannot ignore
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                                  • INVEGA MAN
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-30-08
                                    • 6800

                                    #2607
                                    Down 600 and tanking like a mother!! Oh my!!
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                                    • INVEGA MAN
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-30-08
                                      • 6800

                                      #2608
                                      Down 700 with 2 hours to go. People staying home, not flying, and not spending money is a killer but pence will get this dun!!
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                                      • cincinnatikid513
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 11-23-17
                                        • 45360

                                        #2609
                                        Originally posted by INVEGA MAN
                                        Down 700 with 2 hours to go. People staying home, not flying, and not spending money is a killer but pence will get this dun!!
                                        maybe he will pray it away
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                                        • milwaukee mike
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                                          • 08-22-07
                                          • 26914

                                          #2610
                                          Originally posted by homie1975
                                          it was down 900 early in the session. now down only 300ish

                                          quite a comeback that even the most negative people in the world cannot ignore
                                          and now it's down 1000 again, even the most positive people can't ignore that!
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                                          • HockeyRocks
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 07-10-13
                                            • 6069

                                            #2611
                                            Trump must be ready to take the pipe....
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                                            • Otters27
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                                              • 07-14-07
                                              • 30760

                                              #2612
                                              Dive fukking bomb
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                                              • INVEGA MAN
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-30-08
                                                • 6800

                                                #2613
                                                Closed down another 1200. Trump not tweeeting but throwing up!! Oh my!! Wtf is going on!!
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #2614
                                                  lol guys getting buried
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                                                  • JoeCool20
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 05-31-18
                                                    • 4440

                                                    #2615
                                                    I've lost more in the last 4 days than most people make in a year.
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                                                    • milwaukee mike
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 08-22-07
                                                      • 26914

                                                      #2616
                                                      Originally posted by JoeCool20
                                                      I've lost more in the last 4 days than most people make in a year.
                                                      me too and i hope i lose more, let's have some blood in the streets! (literally and figuratively)

                                                      people in this country have it way too easy and hardly anyone actually does any physical labor
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                                                      • homie1975
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 12-24-13
                                                        • 15452

                                                        #2617
                                                        Originally posted by JoeCool20
                                                        I've lost more in the last 4 days than most people make in a year.
                                                        on paper you have. if you have not sold anything you are fine. remember, you only lose if you sell equities that have dropped since you bought them.

                                                        tough it out like the rest of us, or be like me and buy more!
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                                                        • homie1975
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 12-24-13
                                                          • 15452

                                                          #2618
                                                          Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                          me too and i hope i lose more, let's have some blood in the streets! (literally and figuratively)

                                                          people in this country have it way too easy and hardly anyone actually does any physical labor
                                                          i saw the blood and scooped up a ton of TQQQ at $76

                                                          the recent high was $118.

                                                          that's a 35% drop. VALUE !!!
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                                                          • milwaukee mike
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                                                            • 08-22-07
                                                            • 26914

                                                            #2619
                                                            Originally posted by homie1975
                                                            i saw the blood and scooped up a ton of TQQQ at $76

                                                            the recent high was $118.

                                                            that's a 35% drop. VALUE !!!
                                                            chart looks like a ski hill

                                                            what do you think of the oil stocks? i did step in front of a train and bought some psx at 75
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                                                            • chico2663
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                                                              • 09-02-10
                                                              • 36915

                                                              #2620
                                                              fb down 20 since thur/pg down 14/bmy down9/hon down 15/swks down 19
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                                                              • chico2663
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 09-02-10
                                                                • 36915

                                                                #2621
                                                                those people and companies that got the tax break are taking their money out. now with lower lows they will buy back.
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                                                                • Sanity Check
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 03-30-13
                                                                  • 10962

                                                                  #2622
                                                                  Its obvious this market crash was engineered by several different sources.

                                                                  Will there ever be a backlash, like there was with 9/11.

                                                                  Where most who said it was a false flag were deemed conspiracy nuts.

                                                                  Years later, public opinion somewhat shifted.
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                                                                  • Goat Milk
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                                                                    • 03-24-10
                                                                    • 25850

                                                                    #2623
                                                                    Is this the bottom? Or are we headed down more? I am buried.
                                                                    Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                                    • JIBBBY
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 12-10-09
                                                                      • 83686

                                                                      #2624
                                                                      Dive Dive Dive!!!

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                                                                      • pavyracer
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 04-12-07
                                                                        • 82839

                                                                        #2625
                                                                        Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                                                        Is this the bottom? Or are we headed down more? I am buried.
                                                                        If S&P doesn't hold at 2900 tomorrow it will slide to 2700 for the next stop and then the real test is at 2400. If it holds at 2400 twice then it could form a bottom.
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