Originally posted by gasto
Are People actually Dumb enough to believe the NBA is Rigged?
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sballenSBR Wise Guy
- 02-26-14
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#106I'm an actuary, so yes, yes i do. Thanks for playin.Comment -
the_situationSBR MVP
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#107There are multiple refs in the NBA who are company men. See Scott Foster (FTs in 3rd Q yesterday were what 18-0?) Also Brooklyn/Toronto Game 7..as fixed as it gets. The players don't fix it but the refs do.Comment -
sballenSBR Wise Guy
- 02-26-14
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#108i am, however, happy that you work with people who actually have a clue. I suggest you run your theories by them and see what they have to say. That is, if you'd like to lose all credibility and respect at work.Originally posted by gastoGet the penetrate outta here telling me to take a stats class. I use sas programming and you telling me to take a stats class. I rate risk for life assigning different weights to multiple variables.
I work with PhDs in econometrics and the least you can have is a Masters moron. Take an advanced econometrics class and then come back with that trash. I am done with you imbeciles. Argue about fixes but don't question academic credentials. Do you even have an advanced degree you moron
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daneblazerBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#109Refs have too much power in sports, just the way it is. One targeting call can change the land scape of football now.Comment -
gastoSBR Sharp
- 12-30-11
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#110Who gave you the right to tell me what to do. You think because you are an Actuary you have all the answers.
Every year we get estimates on what our pension fund returns and future obligations should be from Actuaries. Guess what we always have to make adjustments. The actuarial estimates are always wrong and we accept it because we know it's estimates or guesswork for lack of a better word
Forecasting and modeling are never exact. Well I guess my talk of econometrics calmed you down Mr Actuary. Even if you had a PhD you would not change my opinion on sports being fixed. You don't need a brain to figure that out. Keep your opinions I will keep mine.Comment -
sballenSBR Wise Guy
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#111Originally posted by gastoWho gave you the right to tell me what to do. You think because you are an Actuary you have all the answers.
Every year we get estimates on what our pension fund returns and future obligations should be from Actuaries. Guess what we always have to make adjustments. The actuarial estimates are always wrong and we accept it because we know it's estimates or guesswork for lack of a better word
Forecasting and modeling are never exact. Well I guess my talk of econometrics calmed you down Mr Actuary. Even if you had a PhD you would not change my opinion on sports being fixed. You don't need a brain to figure that out. Keep your opinions I will keep mine.
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akphideltSBR MVP
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#112He doesn't get it! Absolutely hilarious!Originally posted by sballen
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akphideltSBR MVP
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#113They don't have "power". They have a job to call the game according to the rules. Basketball is by far the hardest sport. People blame the refs from little kid boys and girl club leagues to high school to the pros. It is not an easy job.Originally posted by daneblazerRefs have too much power in sports, just the way it is. One targeting call can change the land scape of football now.Comment -
packerd_00SBR Posting Legend
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#114Youve just proven how much of a ignoramus you are,Soccer is played in every Country on the planet,where do you get this third World country jibberish from.Originally posted by akphideltLmao, soccer is a 3rd world country sport that I do not care about. Talking about the NBA and America here. And I have done research and there is nothing there.
Youve done no research youve proven that.Comment -
tony_comeSBR Posting Legend
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#115Terrible calledComment -
akphideltSBR MVP
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#116Yea I played it when I was 5 years old, then played real sports. I'll leave it to the 3rd world countries to kick a ball around.Originally posted by packerd_00Youve just proven how much of a ignoramus you are,Soccer is played in every Country on the planet,where do you get this third World country jibberish from.
Youve done no research youve proven that.Comment -
tony_comeSBR Posting Legend
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#117Lol at the clippersComment -
Eddy MunnyBenched
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#118Originally posted by tony_comeTerrible calledOriginally posted by tony_comeLol at the clippers
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packerd_00SBR Posting Legend
- 05-22-13
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#119America has the MLS and there playing in the World Cup,so are you calling the US a third World Country.
And by the way I know you dont realize this but Basketball is played in many third world countries.Comment -
The KrakenBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 12-25-11
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#120NBA is rigged. I can even tell you after each game what the fix wasComment -
akphideltSBR MVP
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#121Dude, I'm just taking a crack at soccer, I understand where it is played. Really not that big of a deal.Originally posted by packerd_00America has the MLS and there playing in the World Cup,so are you calling the US a third World Country.
And by the way I know you dont realize this but Basketball is played in many third world countries.Comment -
BigDofBASBR Posting Legend
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#122Lol.Originally posted by The KrakenNBA is rigged. I can even tell you after each game what the fix wasComment -
akphideltSBR MVP
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#123Lol! If Indiana won I would have said the NBA wants to extend the series. If Miami won I would say the NBA wants Lebron and Wade to be rested for the finals!!Originally posted by The KrakenNBA is rigged. I can even tell you after each game what the fix wasComment -
packerd_00SBR Posting Legend
- 05-22-13
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#124Yeah but you cant say fixes dont happen in Major Sports leagues in wealthy countries,thats what your saying. I have no idea about the NBA but it has been proven to happen in other Major Sports.Comment -
daneblazerBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#125Maybe power is the wrong word, but they can certainly change the outcome of the game with one call or calls. You're right, it's not an easy job, especial with our improving technology we get to scrutinize every move and call.Originally posted by akphideltThey don't have "power". They have a job to call the game according to the rules. Basketball is by far the hardest sport. People blame the refs from little kid boys and girl club leagues to high school to the pros. It is not an easy job.Comment -
akphideltSBR MVP
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#126Lol, there's like 10,000 professional soccer teams. And if I remember correctly it was friendly games between like Kuwait and Thailand or something. A lot easier to fix than real sports.Originally posted by packerd_00Yeah but you cant say fixes dont happen in Major Sports leagues in wealthy countries,thats what your saying. I have no idea about the NBA but it has been proven to happen in other Major Sports.Comment -
akphideltSBR MVP
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#127They can definitely change the game. No question about that. The question is do they have a motive to change it in one way or the other.Originally posted by daneblazerMaybe power is the wrong word, but they can certainly change the outcome of the game with one call or calls. You're right, it's not an easy job, especial with our improving technology we get to scrutinize every move and call.Comment -
The GiantSBR Posting Legend
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#128NBA players are born into a Basketball Illuminati.
The same Basketball Illuminati breeds referees, game officials, clock managers, owners of teams, every team personnel, broadcasters, and a good percentage of season-ticket holders.
I was a season-ticket holder for many years, and was given insight to several things most people don't know. I'm not going to destroy my privileges as a Basketball Illuminati, but will shed light on one thing:
For example: When a team is chosen to be victorious before a game, the basket they shoot in is 21 inches in diameter, as opposed to the regulated standard 18 inches. Almost impossible to tell at the arena, but the outcome speaks for itself. Miami got the larger basket in tonight's game. I was told this minutes before tonight's game, and made my wager accordingly.
The Basketball Illuminati is very real.
Respect it.
Love it.
It's where Amazing Happens.Comment -
caneSBR Sharp
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#129Thanks for the laugh, that was funny stuff. BTW, you do know that the teams switch baskets for the second half, so I guess they must change the rims at halftime when nobody's looking.Originally posted by The GiantNBA players are born into a Basketball Illuminati.
The same Basketball Illuminati breeds referees, game officials, clock managers, owners of teams, every team personnel, broadcasters, and a good percentage of season-ticket holders.
I was a season-ticket holder for many years, and was given insight to several things most people don't know. I'm not going to destroy my privileges as a Basketball Illuminati, but will shed light on one thing:
For example: When a team is chosen to be victorious before a game, the basket they shoot in is 21 inches in diameter, as opposed to the regulated standard 18 inches. Almost impossible to tell at the arena, but the outcome speaks for itself. Miami got the larger basket in tonight's game. I was told this minutes before tonight's game, and made my wager accordingly.
The Basketball Illuminati is very real.
Respect it.
Love it.
It's where Amazing Happens.Comment -
gastoSBR Sharp
- 12-30-11
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#130OP admit it you are the one who is dumb inspite of your catchy thread title.
Really asking what would be the motive of the Refs to fix get the f out of here
Have your ever heard of insider trading related to stock markets. I would assume you and your actuary friend who tried to be smart about Stats 101 until I told him about econometrics would know
Now if you can answer what is the motive of insider trading you would have less useless questions to ask and save everyone time responding to your sarcastic ideasComment -
The GiantSBR Posting Legend
- 01-21-12
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#131It's all done digitally.Originally posted by caneThanks for the laugh, that was funny stuff. BTW, you do know that the teams switch baskets for the second half, so I guess they must change the rims at halftime when nobody's looking.
They do it during the pyrotechnical part of halftimes.Comment -
TheCentaurSBR Hall of Famer
- 06-28-11
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#132Gnat you know they change directions at the half so i don't know what ur trying to do hereOriginally posted by The GiantNBA players are born into a Basketball Illuminati.
The same Basketball Illuminati breeds referees, game officials, clock managers, owners of teams, every team personnel, broadcasters, and a good percentage of season-ticket holders.
I was a season-ticket holder for many years, and was given insight to several things most people don't know. I'm not going to destroy my privileges as a Basketball Illuminati, but will shed light on one thing:
For example: When a team is chosen to be victorious before a game, the basket they shoot in is 21 inches in diameter, as opposed to the regulated standard 18 inches. Almost impossible to tell at the arena, but the outcome speaks for itself. Miami got the larger basket in tonight's game. I was told this minutes before tonight's game, and made my wager accordingly.
The Basketball Illuminati is very real.
Respect it.
Love it.
It's where Amazing Happens.
IMO one of the most easily fixed sports now has got to be the NFL. I'm not saying it is, but the power these refs have with ticky tacky fouls on receivers during final drives single handedly wins and loses games. Literally from change of poss and taking a knee to a chip shot for the winning FGComment -
jpot34SBR MVP
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#133Originally posted by Eddy MunnyIf it was rigged, I'm pretty sure the Clippers would still be playing.
On the heels of this Sterling scandal, just think of the countless subplots that the sports media, and media in general, would have had to salivate over if the Clipshow made some kind of heroic run to the Finals and dethroned the hated Miami Heat. Ratings would have been off the charts. The NBA would have been squarely in the spotlight and surely would have benefited from it.
But alas, the "writers" of this rigged sports saga apparently wanted nothing to do with "must see TV," and instead opted for a Finals that will be, comparatively speaking, a snoozefest. Anything with the Indiana Pacers in it is fairly forgettable. And if the Heat advance, we'll only see a rematch of the Finals from either of the last two years, regardless of who wins the West.
I could go on and on. The "NBA is rigged" faction loves to point out certain storylines that develop and automatically attribute it to some contrived grand design, as if nothing interesting ever happens through natural events. But what they fail to realize is that more often than not, even greater storylines slip through the cracks and never materialize. Why is this?
The Clippers are on the verge of being sold to a new owner. What better way to tie loose ends together than to send Clippers players/fans/coaches off into the sunset with a triumphant run through the NBA playoffs? The timing would have been fairy tale perfect. Nobody in the mainstream would have batted an eyelash either because the Clipper roster is stockpiled with championship caliber players.
But we all know what really happened. Clippers couldn't even reach the conference finals and were toast after a six game series with OKC. Talk about an anticlimactic finish to the devious plot twist of the Sterling debacle. Certainly a rigged sport could have figured that one out right?
Furthermore, Donald Sterling must certainly know that the games are fixed if he's an owner. I would think that would be part of negotiating the purchase of a franchise is knowing how your team fits in to the "grand scheme" of the NBA's future plans. So if I am Mr. Sterling, what better way to go out with guns blazing than to "out" the league, and reveal to the world the darkest, best kept secret in the history of sports?
He would be dead before the 1st word left his lips! True story.Comment -
gastoSBR Sharp
- 12-30-11
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#134I am sure the Indian and Pakistani cricket test players are millionaires. Yet some dude was caught on tape and promised when the bowler would have a no ball.
In UK they bet something equivalent to saying will the 2nd pitch in the 4th inning be a strike or ball in baseball speak
Guess what for tens of thousands of dollars some Indian fixer dude would guarantee the play. What's hilarious the reporter paid the money and the situations played out exactly as promised specifically. You can imagine these kind of market. The ref would be out of it. A few players were in on the fix so the player would throw in a way that the ref cannot miss that it's a ball.
And you still question whether sports are fixed. You do not need a group to fix a game. An individual with their own interest will perform to achieve the outcome. A point guard can engage in subtle point shaving, make the game go fast or slow to impact game totals. Refs with agendas can put teams in the pent real fast and influence game totals for particular quarter or full game. Real easy than imagined.Comment -
jpot34SBR MVP
- 04-24-07
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#135Originally posted by sballenI already tried calling these people idiots to no avail. My advice; just drop if bc the morons will continue to believe it's rigged because they lose their bets and. The only possible reason could be that it's the NBA rigging games and not their own poor choices.
i laugh hysterically at the argument that they fix games to maximize revenue. If the NBA was proved to be fixed then they would lose so much money it's not even funny. These people are by and large morons and you can't try to rationalize with them so just forget it.
probably 95% of the conspiracy theorist don't even know what a gaming actuary is or how spreads are even determined. They'd rather believe a spread that doesn't match their preconceived idea is a fix because it allows them to blame their stupidity on others, which is what the ultimate uneducated people do.
you cant argue with idiot.
You are the gullible one. Glad most people are like you, us sharps will always be on the other side. Keeps us in business.Comment -
Eddy MunnyBenched
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#136You're full of shit. A man of his immense financial means and contacts would surely find a viable avenue through which to leak this information if it were true. Even if his life was in danger as a result, the cat would already be out of the bag. Not to mention, at his age, there really isn't that much to lose. He's already late in the fourth quarter of his life, the threat of death probably isn't that big of a silencer.Originally posted by jpot34He would be dead before the 1st word left his lips! True story.Comment -
jpot34SBR MVP
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#137Originally posted by Thor4140i bet u are one of those guys who thinks the books target is to get equal action on both sides and get the juice
Juice is all they want! No greed here.
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jpot34SBR MVP
- 04-24-07
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#138Originally posted by Tommy Karateyou just made it clear why you feel so paranoid...
you're backing the heat too much when the king is out...
You disappoint me. I thought you were fairly sharp.Comment -
Eddy MunnyBenched
- 08-13-13
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#139Juice equates to a lot of money when you're dealing with the kind of volume Vegas does.Comment -
jpot34SBR MVP
- 04-24-07
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#140Originally posted by akphideltNot a single one of these conspiracy theorists has a single clue what you are talking about.

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