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  • sballen
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 02-26-14
    • 815

    #106
    Originally posted by gasto
    Get the penetrate outta here telling me to take a stats class. I use sas programming and you telling me to take a stats class. I rate risk for life assigning different weights to multiple variables.

    I work with PhDs in econometrics and the least you can have is a Masters moron. Take an advanced econometrics class and then come back with that trash. I am done with you imbeciles. Argue about fixes but don't question academic credentials. Do you even have an advanced degree you moron
    I'm an actuary, so yes, yes i do. Thanks for playin.
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    • the_situation
      SBR MVP
      • 10-22-10
      • 2735

      #107
      There are multiple refs in the NBA who are company men. See Scott Foster (FTs in 3rd Q yesterday were what 18-0?) Also Brooklyn/Toronto Game 7..as fixed as it gets. The players don't fix it but the refs do.
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      • sballen
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 02-26-14
        • 815

        #108
        Originally posted by gasto
        Get the penetrate outta here telling me to take a stats class. I use sas programming and you telling me to take a stats class. I rate risk for life assigning different weights to multiple variables.

        I work with PhDs in econometrics and the least you can have is a Masters moron. Take an advanced econometrics class and then come back with that trash. I am done with you imbeciles. Argue about fixes but don't question academic credentials. Do you even have an advanced degree you moron
        i am, however, happy that you work with people who actually have a clue. I suggest you run your theories by them and see what they have to say. That is, if you'd like to lose all credibility and respect at work.
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        • daneblazer
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 09-14-08
          • 27862

          #109
          Refs have too much power in sports, just the way it is. One targeting call can change the land scape of football now.
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          • gasto
            SBR Sharp
            • 12-30-11
            • 330

            #110
            Who gave you the right to tell me what to do. You think because you are an Actuary you have all the answers.

            Every year we get estimates on what our pension fund returns and future obligations should be from Actuaries. Guess what we always have to make adjustments. The actuarial estimates are always wrong and we accept it because we know it's estimates or guesswork for lack of a better word

            Forecasting and modeling are never exact. Well I guess my talk of econometrics calmed you down Mr Actuary. Even if you had a PhD you would not change my opinion on sports being fixed. You don't need a brain to figure that out. Keep your opinions I will keep mine.
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            • sballen
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 02-26-14
              • 815

              #111
              Originally posted by gasto
              Who gave you the right to tell me what to do. You think because you are an Actuary you have all the answers.

              Every year we get estimates on what our pension fund returns and future obligations should be from Actuaries. Guess what we always have to make adjustments. The actuarial estimates are always wrong and we accept it because we know it's estimates or guesswork for lack of a better word

              Forecasting and modeling are never exact. Well I guess my talk of econometrics calmed you down Mr Actuary. Even if you had a PhD you would not change my opinion on sports being fixed. You don't need a brain to figure that out. Keep your opinions I will keep mine.
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              • akphidelt
                SBR MVP
                • 07-24-11
                • 1228

                #112
                Originally posted by sballen
                He doesn't get it! Absolutely hilarious!
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                • akphidelt
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-24-11
                  • 1228

                  #113
                  Originally posted by daneblazer
                  Refs have too much power in sports, just the way it is. One targeting call can change the land scape of football now.
                  They don't have "power". They have a job to call the game according to the rules. Basketball is by far the hardest sport. People blame the refs from little kid boys and girl club leagues to high school to the pros. It is not an easy job.
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                  • packerd_00
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 05-22-13
                    • 17845

                    #114
                    Originally posted by akphidelt
                    Lmao, soccer is a 3rd world country sport that I do not care about. Talking about the NBA and America here. And I have done research and there is nothing there.
                    Youve just proven how much of a ignoramus you are,Soccer is played in every Country on the planet,where do you get this third World country jibberish from.

                    Youve done no research youve proven that.
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                    • tony_come
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 03-31-10
                      • 21695

                      #115
                      Terrible called
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                      • akphidelt
                        SBR MVP
                        • 07-24-11
                        • 1228

                        #116
                        Originally posted by packerd_00
                        Youve just proven how much of a ignoramus you are,Soccer is played in every Country on the planet,where do you get this third World country jibberish from.

                        Youve done no research youve proven that.
                        Yea I played it when I was 5 years old, then played real sports. I'll leave it to the 3rd world countries to kick a ball around.
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                        • tony_come
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 03-31-10
                          • 21695

                          #117
                          Lol at the clippers
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                          • Eddy Munny
                            Benched
                            • 08-13-13
                            • 15769

                            #118
                            Originally posted by tony_come
                            Terrible called
                            Originally posted by tony_come
                            Lol at the clippers
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                            • packerd_00
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 05-22-13
                              • 17845

                              #119
                              America has the MLS and there playing in the World Cup,so are you calling the US a third World Country.

                              And by the way I know you dont realize this but Basketball is played in many third world countries.
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                              • The Kraken
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 12-25-11
                                • 29085

                                #120
                                NBA is rigged. I can even tell you after each game what the fix was
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                                • akphidelt
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 07-24-11
                                  • 1228

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by packerd_00
                                  America has the MLS and there playing in the World Cup,so are you calling the US a third World Country.

                                  And by the way I know you dont realize this but Basketball is played in many third world countries.
                                  Dude, I'm just taking a crack at soccer, I understand where it is played. Really not that big of a deal.
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                                  • BigDofBA
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 09-30-09
                                    • 19313

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by The Kraken
                                    NBA is rigged. I can even tell you after each game what the fix was
                                    Lol.
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                                    • akphidelt
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 07-24-11
                                      • 1228

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by The Kraken
                                      NBA is rigged. I can even tell you after each game what the fix was
                                      Lol! If Indiana won I would have said the NBA wants to extend the series. If Miami won I would say the NBA wants Lebron and Wade to be rested for the finals!!
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                                      • packerd_00
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 05-22-13
                                        • 17845

                                        #124
                                        Yeah but you cant say fixes dont happen in Major Sports leagues in wealthy countries,thats what your saying. I have no idea about the NBA but it has been proven to happen in other Major Sports.
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                                        • daneblazer
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 09-14-08
                                          • 27862

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by akphidelt
                                          They don't have "power". They have a job to call the game according to the rules. Basketball is by far the hardest sport. People blame the refs from little kid boys and girl club leagues to high school to the pros. It is not an easy job.
                                          Maybe power is the wrong word, but they can certainly change the outcome of the game with one call or calls. You're right, it's not an easy job, especial with our improving technology we get to scrutinize every move and call.
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                                          • akphidelt
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 07-24-11
                                            • 1228

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by packerd_00
                                            Yeah but you cant say fixes dont happen in Major Sports leagues in wealthy countries,thats what your saying. I have no idea about the NBA but it has been proven to happen in other Major Sports.
                                            Lol, there's like 10,000 professional soccer teams. And if I remember correctly it was friendly games between like Kuwait and Thailand or something. A lot easier to fix than real sports.
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                                            • akphidelt
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-24-11
                                              • 1228

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by daneblazer
                                              Maybe power is the wrong word, but they can certainly change the outcome of the game with one call or calls. You're right, it's not an easy job, especial with our improving technology we get to scrutinize every move and call.
                                              They can definitely change the game. No question about that. The question is do they have a motive to change it in one way or the other.
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                                              • The Giant
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-21-12
                                                • 21480

                                                #128
                                                NBA players are born into a Basketball Illuminati.

                                                The same Basketball Illuminati breeds referees, game officials, clock managers, owners of teams, every team personnel, broadcasters, and a good percentage of season-ticket holders.

                                                I was a season-ticket holder for many years, and was given insight to several things most people don't know. I'm not going to destroy my privileges as a Basketball Illuminati, but will shed light on one thing:

                                                For example: When a team is chosen to be victorious before a game, the basket they shoot in is 21 inches in diameter, as opposed to the regulated standard 18 inches. Almost impossible to tell at the arena, but the outcome speaks for itself. Miami got the larger basket in tonight's game. I was told this minutes before tonight's game, and made my wager accordingly.

                                                The Basketball Illuminati is very real.

                                                Respect it.

                                                Love it.

                                                It's where Amazing Happens.
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                                                • cane
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 09-26-13
                                                  • 480

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by The Giant
                                                  NBA players are born into a Basketball Illuminati.

                                                  The same Basketball Illuminati breeds referees, game officials, clock managers, owners of teams, every team personnel, broadcasters, and a good percentage of season-ticket holders.

                                                  I was a season-ticket holder for many years, and was given insight to several things most people don't know. I'm not going to destroy my privileges as a Basketball Illuminati, but will shed light on one thing:

                                                  For example: When a team is chosen to be victorious before a game, the basket they shoot in is 21 inches in diameter, as opposed to the regulated standard 18 inches. Almost impossible to tell at the arena, but the outcome speaks for itself. Miami got the larger basket in tonight's game. I was told this minutes before tonight's game, and made my wager accordingly.

                                                  The Basketball Illuminati is very real.

                                                  Respect it.

                                                  Love it.

                                                  It's where Amazing Happens.
                                                  Thanks for the laugh, that was funny stuff. BTW, you do know that the teams switch baskets for the second half, so I guess they must change the rims at halftime when nobody's looking.
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                                                  • gasto
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 12-30-11
                                                    • 330

                                                    #130
                                                    OP admit it you are the one who is dumb inspite of your catchy thread title.

                                                    Really asking what would be the motive of the Refs to fix get the f out of here

                                                    Have your ever heard of insider trading related to stock markets. I would assume you and your actuary friend who tried to be smart about Stats 101 until I told him about econometrics would know

                                                    Now if you can answer what is the motive of insider trading you would have less useless questions to ask and save everyone time responding to your sarcastic ideas
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                                                    • The Giant
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 01-21-12
                                                      • 21480

                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by cane
                                                      Thanks for the laugh, that was funny stuff. BTW, you do know that the teams switch baskets for the second half, so I guess they must change the rims at halftime when nobody's looking.
                                                      It's all done digitally.

                                                      They do it during the pyrotechnical part of halftimes.
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                                                      • TheCentaur
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 06-28-11
                                                        • 8108

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by The Giant
                                                        NBA players are born into a Basketball Illuminati.

                                                        The same Basketball Illuminati breeds referees, game officials, clock managers, owners of teams, every team personnel, broadcasters, and a good percentage of season-ticket holders.

                                                        I was a season-ticket holder for many years, and was given insight to several things most people don't know. I'm not going to destroy my privileges as a Basketball Illuminati, but will shed light on one thing:

                                                        For example: When a team is chosen to be victorious before a game, the basket they shoot in is 21 inches in diameter, as opposed to the regulated standard 18 inches. Almost impossible to tell at the arena, but the outcome speaks for itself. Miami got the larger basket in tonight's game. I was told this minutes before tonight's game, and made my wager accordingly.

                                                        The Basketball Illuminati is very real.

                                                        Respect it.

                                                        Love it.

                                                        It's where Amazing Happens.
                                                        Gnat you know they change directions at the half so i don't know what ur trying to do here

                                                        IMO one of the most easily fixed sports now has got to be the NFL. I'm not saying it is, but the power these refs have with ticky tacky fouls on receivers during final drives single handedly wins and loses games. Literally from change of poss and taking a knee to a chip shot for the winning FG
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                                                        • jpot34
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 04-24-07
                                                          • 1391

                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                                          If it was rigged, I'm pretty sure the Clippers would still be playing.

                                                          On the heels of this Sterling scandal, just think of the countless subplots that the sports media, and media in general, would have had to salivate over if the Clipshow made some kind of heroic run to the Finals and dethroned the hated Miami Heat. Ratings would have been off the charts. The NBA would have been squarely in the spotlight and surely would have benefited from it.

                                                          But alas, the "writers" of this rigged sports saga apparently wanted nothing to do with "must see TV," and instead opted for a Finals that will be, comparatively speaking, a snoozefest. Anything with the Indiana Pacers in it is fairly forgettable. And if the Heat advance, we'll only see a rematch of the Finals from either of the last two years, regardless of who wins the West.

                                                          I could go on and on. The "NBA is rigged" faction loves to point out certain storylines that develop and automatically attribute it to some contrived grand design, as if nothing interesting ever happens through natural events. But what they fail to realize is that more often than not, even greater storylines slip through the cracks and never materialize. Why is this?

                                                          The Clippers are on the verge of being sold to a new owner. What better way to tie loose ends together than to send Clippers players/fans/coaches off into the sunset with a triumphant run through the NBA playoffs? The timing would have been fairy tale perfect. Nobody in the mainstream would have batted an eyelash either because the Clipper roster is stockpiled with championship caliber players.

                                                          But we all know what really happened. Clippers couldn't even reach the conference finals and were toast after a six game series with OKC. Talk about an anticlimactic finish to the devious plot twist of the Sterling debacle. Certainly a rigged sport could have figured that one out right?

                                                          Furthermore, Donald Sterling must certainly know that the games are fixed if he's an owner. I would think that would be part of negotiating the purchase of a franchise is knowing how your team fits in to the "grand scheme" of the NBA's future plans. So if I am Mr. Sterling, what better way to go out with guns blazing than to "out" the league, and reveal to the world the darkest, best kept secret in the history of sports?


                                                          He would be dead before the 1st word left his lips! True story.
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                                                          • gasto
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 12-30-11
                                                            • 330

                                                            #134
                                                            I am sure the Indian and Pakistani cricket test players are millionaires. Yet some dude was caught on tape and promised when the bowler would have a no ball.

                                                            In UK they bet something equivalent to saying will the 2nd pitch in the 4th inning be a strike or ball in baseball speak

                                                            Guess what for tens of thousands of dollars some Indian fixer dude would guarantee the play. What's hilarious the reporter paid the money and the situations played out exactly as promised specifically. You can imagine these kind of market. The ref would be out of it. A few players were in on the fix so the player would throw in a way that the ref cannot miss that it's a ball.

                                                            And you still question whether sports are fixed. You do not need a group to fix a game. An individual with their own interest will perform to achieve the outcome. A point guard can engage in subtle point shaving, make the game go fast or slow to impact game totals. Refs with agendas can put teams in the pent real fast and influence game totals for particular quarter or full game. Real easy than imagined.
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                                                            • jpot34
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 04-24-07
                                                              • 1391

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by sballen
                                                              I already tried calling these people idiots to no avail. My advice; just drop if bc the morons will continue to believe it's rigged because they lose their bets and. The only possible reason could be that it's the NBA rigging games and not their own poor choices.

                                                              i laugh hysterically at the argument that they fix games to maximize revenue. If the NBA was proved to be fixed then they would lose so much money it's not even funny. These people are by and large morons and you can't try to rationalize with them so just forget it.

                                                              probably 95% of the conspiracy theorist don't even know what a gaming actuary is or how spreads are even determined. They'd rather believe a spread that doesn't match their preconceived idea is a fix because it allows them to blame their stupidity on others, which is what the ultimate uneducated people do.

                                                              you cant argue with idiot.


                                                              You are the gullible one. Glad most people are like you, us sharps will always be on the other side. Keeps us in business.
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                                                              • Eddy Munny
                                                                Benched
                                                                • 08-13-13
                                                                • 15769

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by jpot34
                                                                He would be dead before the 1st word left his lips! True story.
                                                                You're full of shit. A man of his immense financial means and contacts would surely find a viable avenue through which to leak this information if it were true. Even if his life was in danger as a result, the cat would already be out of the bag. Not to mention, at his age, there really isn't that much to lose. He's already late in the fourth quarter of his life, the threat of death probably isn't that big of a silencer.
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                                                                • jpot34
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 04-24-07
                                                                  • 1391

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                                  i bet u are one of those guys who thinks the books target is to get equal action on both sides and get the juice



                                                                  Juice is all they want! No greed here.
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                                                                  • jpot34
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 04-24-07
                                                                    • 1391

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by Tommy Karate
                                                                    you just made it clear why you feel so paranoid...
                                                                    you're backing the heat too much when the king is out...

                                                                    You disappoint me. I thought you were fairly sharp.
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                                                                    • Eddy Munny
                                                                      Benched
                                                                      • 08-13-13
                                                                      • 15769

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Juice equates to a lot of money when you're dealing with the kind of volume Vegas does.
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                                                                      • jpot34
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 04-24-07
                                                                        • 1391

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by akphidelt
                                                                        Not a single one of these conspiracy theorists has a single clue what you are talking about.


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