Are People actually Dumb enough to believe the NBA is Rigged?

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  • jtoler
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    • 12-17-13
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    #526
    Originally posted by cane
    Here's my question to those that think the NBA is rigged. For as long as I can remember there have been people claiming NBA games are fixed, threads like this and discussions about the NBA rigging games are common place. My question is; how come you never see or hear anyone ever make the same claim about the NFL, or NHL, or MLB? I'm curious why all you ever see is how basketball is rigged, but never those other sports (and keep soccer and tennis out of it), I'm talking about of the four major sports in this country, the NBA is the only one that gets this treatment. So that's my question to the "riggers", in this country why is it only basketball that gets talked about, and not the other sports. I mean for whatever reasons you guys give for basketball being rigged, those same reasons could be applied to the other major sports as well.
    Your paragraph tells me you dont follow any of those sports enough then because I hear people talk about rigs in all of them at some point.
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    • cane
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      • 09-26-13
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      #527
      Originally posted by jtoler
      Your paragraph tells me you dont follow any of those sports.
      Other than hockey which I don't care about, I do follow football and baseball very closely. The thing is, I don't see 16 page threads talking about those sports being fixed. For whatever reason, the NBA is the only one that gets this type of treatment, and I'm just curious why basketball gets so much rigging talk, but not the others. And I don't mean SBR, I mean anywhere. There's just something about basketball that gets people all riled up.
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      • jtoler
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        • 12-17-13
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        #528
        Originally posted by cane
        Other than hockey which I don't care about, I do follow football and baseball very closely. The thing is, I don't see 16 page threads talking about those sports being fixed. For whatever reason, the NBA is the only one that gets this type of treatment, and I'm just curious why basketball gets so much rigging talk, but not the others. And I don't mean SBR, I mean anywhere. There's just something about basketball that gets people all riled up.
        Because its the easiest to manipulate as far as refereeing and foul calls which are subjective. In baseball you can have umps with screwy balls and strike calls also, but seems more obvious this time of year to me in basketball.
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        • packerd_00
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          • 05-22-13
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          #529
          Originally posted by akphidelt
          Mark Cuban - "The NBA couldn't rig the games if it wanted to. And it doesn't want to. It's that simple."

          http://ibnsportswrap.com/article.php....yt09ZnZy.dpuf
          In that article it quotes Ray Allen as saying his playoff series against the Sixers in 2001 was rigged in favour of Iverson.
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          • cane
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            • 09-26-13
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            #530
            Originally posted by packerd_00
            In that article it quotes Ray Allen as saying his playoff series against the Sixers in 2001 was rigged in favour of Iverson.
            You can't go by what players or owners say, they're talking in the heat of the moment, and they're not exactly neutral observers. Mark Cuban just saw his team lose in the finals, so he shouts to Stern, "you're league is rigged", it's the result of emotions taking over after a devastating loss.
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            • akphidelt
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              • 07-24-11
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              #531
              The entire Pacers basketball team must have got the call to rig this game, lol!!
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              • akphidelt
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                • 07-24-11
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                #532
                Shouldn't the NBA have scripted this for game 7? That's what I would have done, lol.
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                • Kermit
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                  • 09-27-10
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                  #533
                  I think it's funny when people bitch about things like player props, 1st quarter lines and other goofy shit like that being rigged.
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                  • The Giant
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                    • 01-21-12
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                    #534
                    It sure would be nice if these guys could rig a game and make it compelling.

                    Must be part of the NBA's master plan to put these unwatchable games on.
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                    • daneblazer
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                      • 09-14-08
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                      #535
                      Feels like I'm watching a middle eastern election tonight
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                      • KVB
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                        • 05-29-14
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                        #536
                        Originally posted by akphidelt
                        There's plenty of resistance. Match-fixing is a crime in America. The NBA can not unfairly choose one winner over another. Plenty of legal violations.




                        So much is wrong with this statement...from the presumption of knowing what constitutes "fair" to your consistent, persistent lack of legal knowledge.
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                        • SharpAngles
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                          • 04-15-14
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                          #537
                          Once again OP shows up without a US law to cite. For someone so obsessed with evidence the league is manipulated you're not bringing much to the table for your side OP.
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                          • akphidelt
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                            • 07-24-11
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                            #538
                            Haven't all 5 of the western conference games been double digits victories also?? I guess the NBA doesn't like close games. Weird way to script games!
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                            • akphidelt
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                              • 07-24-11
                              • 1228

                              #539
                              Originally posted by SharpAngles
                              Once again OP shows up without a US law to cite. For someone so obsessed with evidence the league is manipulated you're not bringing much to the table for your side OP.
                              There is no evidence of it or case law for it. Doesn't mean they can do it.
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                              • CarpeDime
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                                • 09-01-09
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                                #540
                                Originally posted by akphidelt
                                Shouldn't the NBA have scripted this for game 7? That's what I would have done, lol.
                                no because then they would have to massively rig a game 7 win for miami because miami missing the finals would be disastrous

                                much much more profitable to rig a game 6 home blowout by miami
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                                • akphidelt
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                                  • 07-24-11
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                                  #541
                                  Originally posted by CarpeDime
                                  no because then they would have to massively rig a game 7 win for miami because miami missing the finals would be disastrous

                                  much much more profitable to rig a game 6 home blowout by miami
                                  Make sense, have a boring game instead of a game 7. Definitely rigged.
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                                  • akphidelt
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                                    • 07-24-11
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                                    #542
                                    If I were going to script a big eastern conference game I would definitely go with a 30 pt blowout!
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                                    • frogsrangers
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                                      • 04-25-12
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                                      #543
                                      A Miami blowout was the script... I stated that this morning in my thread.
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                                      • SharpAngles
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                                        • 04-15-14
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                                        #544
                                        Not only are you ignorant of US law, you also seem to believe anyone is saying every game is fixed. You said it could never happen and got more than enough examples to see it has and will again so why not keep your head in the sand and let this thread die.
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                                        • SharpAngles
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                                          • 04-15-14
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                                          #545
                                          Originally posted by frogsrangers
                                          A Miami blowout was the script... I stated that this morning in my thread.
                                          How do you script a blow out? You think the entire pacers squad is diving? I guess this is the opposite end of the spectrum from OP's ignorance.
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                                          • frogsrangers
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                                            • 04-25-12
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                                            #546
                                            Originally posted by SharpAngles
                                            How do you script a blow out? You think the entire pacers squad is diving? I guess this is the opposite end of the spectrum from OP's ignorance.
                                            They let the Heat be really physical early which forced Indiana to be a jump shooting team
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                                            • SharpAngles
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                                              • 04-15-14
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                                              #547
                                              Originally posted by frogsrangers
                                              They let the Heat be really physical early which forced Indiana to be a jump shooting team
                                              Do you believe in the magnetic balls too? Because that's about all the NBA could control to make the Pacers shoot poorly.
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                                              • frogsrangers
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                                                • 04-25-12
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                                                #548
                                                Loshak seems to be the only person in this thread who gets it
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                                                • frogsrangers
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                                                  • 04-25-12
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                                                  #549
                                                  Originally posted by SharpAngles
                                                  Do you believe in the magnetic balls too? Because that's about all the NBA could control to make the Pacers shoot poorly.
                                                  Officiating is how they rig... based on how tight or loose they call a game. A loose called game benefits Heat because Indy can't exploit that by jump shooting like Miami can, especially when they were letting Miami be really physical tonight
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                                                  • convick
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                                                    • 11-03-11
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                                                    #550
                                                    Originally posted by frogsrangers
                                                    Officiating is how they rig... based on how tight or loose they call a game. A loose called game benefits Heat because Indy can't exploit that by jump shooting like Miami can, especially when they were letting Miami be really physical tonight
                                                    Originally posted by frogsrangers
                                                    They let the Heat be really physical early which forced Indiana to be a jump shooting team
                                                    Way to go out on a limb Willie. Turn off the TV and call Lonathan and Zachary over to your house for an all-night Pokemon All-Star tournament.

                                                    You selected Miami against Indiana during the regular or post season at home over 10 games with any point-spread.
                                                    Miami is 9-1 overall, 7-3 ats, and 8-2 over/under in these games.
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                                                    • akphidelt
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                                                      • 07-24-11
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                                                      #551
                                                      Solid job rigging this game for my entertainment NBA!! Rather watch reruns of Friends!!
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                                                      • gasto
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                                                        • 12-30-11
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                                                        #552
                                                        OP you have been discredited and you should be ashamed of yourself. Now you are saying there is no law but oh they cannot do it. Which is which, or is it hard to accept the folly of your argument. I am not a lawyer but how would the government go about prosecuting for doing something that seems wrong but there are no statutes to that effect. The last i checked immorality is not a crime

                                                        Contrary to some people here, I think the NBA has little influence over how these games play out. The big elephant in the room is illegal gambling and the billions of dollars that change hands both legally in Vegas and illegally. I stated in frogsrangers thread in the morning that there was no way Miami would lose. Lebron was borderline embarrassed last game and there is no way the face of the league would be embarrassed in front of home fans

                                                        Gamblers have a short memory. If you think things are on the up and up, you would think wow Vegas is crazy giving Indiana 8 points but they know all along Miami is the better team and with a little of the hand officials will make sure there are problems with the storyline .

                                                        I can almost say tomorrow the story line is OKC wins and then nobody knows about game 7. But tomorrow is OKC's turn.
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                                                        • akphidelt
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                                                          • 07-24-11
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                                                          #553
                                                          I guess Silver didn't get the memo from Stern that this is for Entertainment purposes!!! Lmao!
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                                                          • frogsrangers
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                                                            • 04-25-12
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                                                            #554
                                                            Originally posted by gasto
                                                            OP you have been discredited and you should be ashamed of yourself. Now you are saying there is no law but oh they cannot do it. Which is which, or is it hard to accept the folly of your argument. I am not a lawyer but how would the government go about prosecuting for doing something that seems wrong but there are no statutes to that effect. The last i checked immorality is not a crime

                                                            Contrary to some people here, I think the NBA has little influence over how these games play out. The big elephant in the room is illegal gambling and the billions of dollars that change hands both legally in Vegas and illegally. I stated in frogsrangers thread in the morning that there was no way Miami would lose. Lebron was borderline embarrassed last game and there is no way the face of the league would be embarrassed in front of home fans

                                                            Gamblers have a short memory. If you think things are on the up and up, you would think wow Vegas is crazy giving Indiana 8 points but they know all along Miami is the better team and with a little of the hand officials will make sure there are problems with the storyline .

                                                            I can almost say tomorrow the story line is OKC wins and then nobody knows about game 7. But tomorrow is OKC's turn.
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                                                            • akphidelt
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                                                              • 07-24-11
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                                                              #555
                                                              Apparently game 6 of the ECF and the first 5 games of the WCF aren't games the NBA wants to rig for our entertainment, lol. They choose some weird games, I guess any game that come down to the wire is rigged.
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                                                              • James Marques
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                                                                • 03-04-14
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                                                                #556
                                                                If it's close, it's rigged. If it's a blow out, it's rigged. You people are just plain silly. Good luck with your scripts and your unit bombs....
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                                                                • Eddy Munny
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                                                                  • 08-13-13
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                                                                  #557
                                                                  Gasto somehow thinks he deserves a cookie for going out on a limb and predicting a Heat win. What a fvkkin tool!
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                                                                  • akphidelt
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                                                                    • 07-24-11
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                                                                    #558
                                                                    Originally posted by James Marques
                                                                    If it's close, it's rigged. If it's a blow out, it's rigged. You people are just plain silly. Good luck with your scripts and your unit bombs....
                                                                    Too bad they don't know which way it's gonna be rigged before the game! We'd all be rich!
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                                                                    • gasto
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                                                                      • 12-30-11
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                                                                      #559
                                                                      Get off your high horses. Frogs ranger had a thread this morning about the rig being in

                                                                      It does not matter because it was pretty obvious to someone who observes the trends and story lines that Heat would win with almost absolute certainty

                                                                      Just like OKC will handle Spurs setting up a blockbuster game 7. Even if the NBA don't take part in the rig there is enough forces to make it so

                                                                      The say I see it is Vegas sets lines up to entice people ons way with seemingly obvious easy plays. These are all booby traps. Watch the casual fan think just because Spurs blew OKC that game 6 will be the same

                                                                      Easily forget the heroics of Ibaka and company. If the story lines play out but will be blow out city in OKC. Forget teasing Spurs the sharks will eat you alive
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                                                                      • 44 Mag
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                                                                        • 10-14-13
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                                                                        #560
                                                                        Originally posted by akphidelt
                                                                        Serious question, are people actually dumb enough to believe that the NBA rigs games? I hear people say it, and I'm not sure if they seriously believe it or not because it is so stupid. I personally call it gambler's paranoia... because only a degenerate gambler can believe in such silly conspiracy theories. And yea, some international 3rd world country soccer was fixed and college basketball players where players make $0 threw games were rigged... but the NBA? A multi billion dollar global business? And please don't mention Bernie Madoff or Enron as if every business in the world is corrupt and those were the only ones that got caught. Just uneducated nonsense.

                                                                        What would the logistics even be? Stern or Silver who make millions of dollars a year going to refs and telling them to fix a game? They are millionaires controlling a billion dollar organization... none of them would put that liability on themselves unless they were mentally insane. Even the one ref who was caught being a degenerate gambler had absolutely no evidence on the NBA fixing games. He had no evidence of Stern or any high level official telling them to fix a game a certain way, he had no juicy information of Vegas CEO's coming through and telling them to fix games, or the mafia, or millions of dollars exchanging hands. He dealt with low level local gamblers and provided them crap information about what refs felt like about players or coaches.

                                                                        Absolutely nothing of value. Be honest, for those of you guys who believe the NBA is fixed... how many of you own an armadillo helmet?
                                                                        Will this post every end???
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