Banker throwin darts at the NFL (all season!)

[2daBank]

lolll you sound clear to me man. ive been fading gabbert since he got in the league he rarely lets me down. i guess jacksonville could have schemed something up during the bye and maybe/probably MJD will get his yards and TD.. i don't blame you for staying away.. clearly the shittiest game on the card. under looks goodto me tho. wouldn't be surprised to see 25+ rushing attempts per team.

yea they should both be able to do some work on the ground, that for sure... hopefully denerious moore goes off as i need to make a trade and would like his fantasy stock to rise a little higher , hell i might end up keeping him and shopping antonio brown as his name may draw a better return for me ...

[2daBank]

plays made so far...

skins/nyg ov 50 1x...like i said i dont know which way line will go but pretty comfortable here so i bet it..

min-6..1.5x...we talked about plenty and i see greek has it at -6.5 now and rather not play it any higher so it in....

in no rush on titans as that has a long way to move one way or other and not worried about number getting worse yet..

titans+3 +105 1x...already discussed gm on previous pages..

[jinxpro13]

titans+3 +105 1x...already discussed gm on previous pages..

this pick still scares me. being an hour from buffalo i could be considered bias.. but its not like i like or hate the bills at all, just feel like I usually have a good feel for the team week -to- week like you with the rams..
staying away as mentioned earlier. u and suicide and swung me over to take em on all my pools plays though so Im definitely with you. coin toss game to me.. cant argue against u guys going against buffalo as a fave. similar to the giants with me.. hate betting them as a fav.

[2daBank]

this pick still scares me. being an hour from buffalo i could be considered bias.. but its not like i like or hate the bills at all, just feel like I usually have a good feel for the team week -to- week like you with the rams..
staying away as mentioned earlier. u and suicide and swung me over to take em on all my pools plays though so Im definitely with you. coin toss game to me.. cant argue against u guys going against buffalo as a fave. similar to the giants with me.. hate betting them as a fav.

the plus money on the 3 was to much for me to pass, maybe im being baited? maybe not...my brother was telling me last sunday some interesting numbers on short home chalk (-4 or less), forget wtf they were (think b4 last week like 6-17 or something) as that stuff more his style than mine and he was telling me this like as resistance to me playing the jets, i told his ass it be 7-17 (or whatever the number is) after i cash nyj get on board, lol...so he passed on nyj cause he knew i loved them but he took dal and det who both also fit the bill and cashed (we tend to work pretty well together, sucks most weeks we dont start discussing till after i leave the house sunday, i did figure out my password tho so in coming weeks ill post from phone maybe after i leave house when i add)...

[Smutbucket]

Any of yall get weekly specials with your books? I just found this one....for 30/1 odds.....think its pretty damn good for $5

10/19 02:20 PM

Future/Prop

$5.00

$150.00

Football Lines - Week 7 Specials - 101 Tennessee Titans +3000 for To Score Most Points on Sunday October 21st

[Smutbucket]

my card so fars looking like this/ although we pretty much discussed these games already, just wondering if any of you got extra input


car/dal over
titans/buf over
new orleans -2.5

probably have a teaser .
along the lines of texans/minn....think both of them easily win but dont wanna tease the dog (know you only like to tease the dogs bank) cuz I have a feeling either team could take a big lead......

also debating....carolina +3 and cinn +1.5

[2daBank]

damn smut, that a nice odds 30 to 1 seems really good ,,i def think that gm gonna have some points, hopefully not so much running that chews clock up but hell for 5 bucks it gotta be worth it... think nyg prob the team that hangs the number to be scared of but ya never know..i woulda put 20 on it, lol....

[2daBank]

my card so fars looking like this/ although we pretty much discussed these games already, just wondering if any of you got extra input


car/dal over
titans/buf over
new orleans -2.5

probably have a teaser .
along the lines of texans/minn....think both of them easily win but dont wanna tease the dog (know you only like to tease the dogs bank) cuz I have a feeling either team could take a big lead......

also debating....carolina +3 and cinn +1.5

i dont only tease the dog,,,most my teasers end up with a dog and a fav,, think what you read was me saying on certain numbers i would only tease the dog as only favs i tease are ones that fall in the -6 to -9 range and i can take under a fg, i dont like teasing a fav across 0 .... i dont see anything wrong with hou/min tease...

ive pretty much decided im staying away from the dal/car gm total or side,,,i lean over in the ten/buf gm but like titans more (hoping for shootout i need a decent week out of fitzpatrick for fantasy, lol)....think i disagree on aints/bucs but it very unlikely i touch it unless someone calls me wanting aints id prob eat it but short of that doubt i play....i just started looking at pit/cin and ya know me it prob either dog or pass but not ready yet..

[Smutbucket]

oh, ya I did misunderstand you, thanks for correcting

ya considering teasing car with over in that one

I think new orleans will finally get in their offensive sync and tb wont be able to keep up with them. look at TBs def. line/open field rank/2nd level rank over last 2 years, simply terrible, no doubt they made some changes, and got a new DC but they are definately overperforming in my opinion. not to mention I got Bill Sheridan, their DC ranked as one of my lowest DCs in the league, in 09 when he replaced Spagnula he had one of worst defenses in league, and NYG lost 8 of their last 11, giving up 40pts+ on 5 different games.....


PS dropped another 5 on it.....30/1 too good....

[2daBank]

you def do more homework on dc/oc than i do bro,,far as what he did with nyg id go on a limb and say that ny team didnt care all that much the season after they beat pats and won SB so not sure how much id knock him as i think the team as a whole was content with what they had already accomplished...

you know i like tampa but i have serious concerns with their ability to limit brees or id be all over this, normally im always down with a home dog that has a better run d and better run gm..i think tb can control this gm but at same time the limited amount of pressure they generate and the huge passing totals they have given up scare the shit out of me vs the saints....more i talk about the more i wanna play bucs as i just dont think this aints team is going anywhere but in the end i know n.o. will move up and down field as almost everyone has through the air on tampa and not sure tb can count on stopping them in the red zone which has been something that has helped them compete in quite a few gms,,,,other side i feel pretty good that tb will move the ball and think this thing prob comes down to who has the ball last, guess prob better off with nfl darling brees than up and comer freeman,,just feel like tb is the right side as i like this team to continue to progress as saints free fall but staying away for now...

if somehow graham didnt go i would play tb...

[jinxpro13]

oh, ya I did misunderstand you, thanks for correcting

ya considering teasing car with over in that one

I think new orleans will finally get in their offensive sync and tb wont be able to keep up with them. look at TBs def. line/open field rank/2nd level rank over last 2 years, simply terrible, no doubt they made some changes, and got a new DC but they are definately overperforming in my opinion. not to mention I got Bill Sheridan, their DC ranked as one of my lowest DCs in the league, in 09 when he replaced Spagnula he had one of worst defenses in league, and NYG lost 8 of their last 11, giving up 40pts+ on 5 different games.....


PS dropped another 5 on it.....30/1 too good....

just worth mentioning jimmy graham's injury. hes questionable. hell probably play.. But hell definitely be limited. This has a HUGE impact on the saints offense. I took tampa a few places this weekend so Im on the other side, but GL wither way bro

[suicidekings]

Smut, I think you're shortchanging the improved TB defense a bit. The additions of Lavonte David and Mark Barron were huge for them, and I think their run defense is not to be underestimated. They're a big & physical unit. However they're weaker on the corners and in pass rushing, and that's something Brees can definitely exploit. If he's allowed to sit back in the pocket, he probably picks the secondary apart. Lance Moore is back as well, so I think it's going to be a steady diet of deep throws to Moore/Colston/Henderson all game. The problem is, when the Saints running game isn't operating properly, Brees is going to have a harder time making those throws. I think for the Saints to win, they really need Sproles/Ingram/Thomas to step up early to help open up the playbook.

[jinxpro13]

you def do more homework on dc/oc than i do bro,,far as what he did with nyg id go on a limb and say that ny team didnt care all that much the season after they beat pats and won SB so not sure how much id knock him as i think the team as a whole was content with what they had already accomplished...

you know i like tampa but i have serious concerns with their ability to limit brees or id be all over this, normally im always down with a home dog that has a better run d and better run gm..i think tb can control this gm but at same time the limited amount of pressure they generate and the huge passing totals they have given up scare the shit out of me vs the saints....more i talk about the more i wanna play bucs as i just dont think this aints team is going anywhere but in the end i know n.o. will move up and down field as almost everyone has through the air on tampa and not sure tb can count on stopping them in the red zone which has been something that has helped them compete in quite a few gms,,,,other side i feel pretty good that tb will move the ball and think this thing prob comes down to who has the ball last, guess prob better off with nfl darling brees than up and comer freeman,,just feel like tb is the right side as i like this team to continue to progress as saints free fall but staying away for now...

dont be so sure the saints fly up and down the field in this game. they will struggle... they will still score, cuz they are the saints, but with jimmy graham limited it really takes away most of their reliable offense. if graham is not on the field well be seeing lots of colston and sproles .. maybe they still put up mad points like they always seem to do, but man I just see tampa as the pick here. they are from a lock for me.. but i like em as mentioned already 40 times lol

[2daBank]

dont be so sure the saints fly up and down the field in this game. they will struggle... they will still score, cuz they are the saints, but with jimmy graham limited it really takes away most of their reliable offense. if graham is not on the field well be seeing lots of colston and sproles .. maybe they still put up mad points like they always seem to do, but man I just see tampa as the pick here. they are from a lock for me.. but i like em as mentioned already 40 times lol

i have no doubt they can move the ball on tb, everyone gets big chunks of yards at a time thru the air on tampa and you just cant expect that to stop when a team like saints come to town, i think the question has to be whether tb can continue to limit teams when they get in close? saints good in red zone, if graham limited or cant go id say i like tampa a ton more as he a monster inside the 20.. far as between the 20's brees will get plenty done with colsten/moore/henderson, i havnt seen anything that would make me not think this..im with you here i lean tb if anything cause i think it close and still up in the air late which makes the + money all i would take, be nice to get like a +3.5 or 4 but that aint gonna happen,,,

[Smutbucket]

banker u got lean on cards game? i was thinking over, havent watched much at all, just thinking about old forumla....stl vs Lefty plus Lynn I dont think is that good, was good early but is young and still has stuff to learn/big playoff game, might meltdown early

[jinxpro13]

i have no doubt they can move the ball on tb, everyone gets big chunks of yards at a time thru the air on tampa and you just cant expect that to stop when a team like saints come to town, i think the question has to be whether tb can continue to limit teams when they get in close? saints good in red zone, if graham limited or cant go id say i like tampa a ton more as he a monster inside the 20.. far as between the 20's brees will get plenty done with colsten/moore/henderson, i havnt seen anything that would make me not think this..im with you here i lean tb if anything cause i think it close and still up in the air late which makes the + money all i would take, be nice to get like a +3.5 or 4 but that aint gonna happen,,,

word. obviously wouldn't be surprised to see saints go up and down the field with ease this week.. good point on the red zone opportunities. Im sure the game will come down to the saints' ability to score in there. i see why your hesitant to pull the trigger on tampa.

[jinxpro13]

[2daBank]

banker u got lean on cards game? i was thinking over, havent watched much at all, just thinking about old forumla....stl vs Lefty plus Lynn I dont think is that good, was good early but is young and still has stuff to learn/big playoff game, might meltdown early

i like the 1st 5 ov better than gm...both pitchers will be on short leashes and both pens have been rock solid so i think it real likely we get runs early then not much late,,figure between these 2 starters at least one gonna get touched up b4 the 5th, if not both...then of coarse being the homer i am i also bet stl-1.5+135,,,cards havnt won a playoff gm by 1 still and ya know how i bitched about them losing 1 run gms all yr so + money on rl only way to roll with them..

[jinxpro13]

from rotoworld :
Beat writer Mike Triplett characterizes Graham as, "as questionable as it gets" to face the Buccaneers on Sunday, suggesting the All-Pro tight end "might be limited even if he plays." It's pretty clear that Graham isn't close to 100 percent, and the fact that the beat writers in New Orleans are skeptical about him suggest Graham hasn't been moving well in practice or at the team facility. Check back for Graham's official status on Sunday morning. Regardless, it sounds like he'll be a risky Week 7 fantasy start if active.


more than line movement bettors of this game should be paying more attention to graham's status.

[jinxpro13]

Graham officially OUT for the game. didn't even fly to tampa. gonna be dropping some tampa bets tonight.
officially added packers ML to my bets as well. love the value with the spread coming down.

will post some props bets I like later tonight...

GL to us lets make that $ tomorrow

[2daBank]

Originally Posted by 2daBank

plays made so far...

skins/nyg ov 50 1x...like i said i dont know which way line will go but pretty comfortable here so i bet it..

min-6..1.5x...we talked about plenty and i see greek has it at -6.5 now and rather not play it any higher so it in....

in no rush on titans as that has a long way to move one way or other and not worried about number getting worse yet..

titans+3 +105 1x...already discussed gm on previous pages..

2 team 6 point teaser.. .77 to .7

cle+7.5
hou-1...i think cle is the better team here and while their d is suspect still better than indys, id have just played the ml but +105 isnt all that appealing...far as hou this team went to balt with a 3rd string qb and several other injuries in the playofffs and gave ravens everything they wanted in a tough loss, now balty comes to hou as they banged up team and i liked hou before the injuries to balt...

[2daBank]

2 team 6 point teaser 1x

stl+11
un51.5....already been talked about plenty...

[freshguy222]

hey banker,
read through the last pages of this thread and you have good discussions going on here.
so you would say your strongest plays are vikings -6 and giants over? considering viking 1H? i think they come out blazing. and i dont think there can be an argument made for the under in the giants game, we know eli is gonna do what he always does, although they might come out sluggish after that big win in sanfrancisco and the line tells me that redskins are going to score a lot here as well.
unfortunately i hate teasers as the lines are often way off i think so i wont play the packers game. would you consider browns +1 or ML your 3rd strongest play? because if so, i think i am gonna go with these three.

[2daBank]

hey banker,
read through the last pages of this thread and you have good discussions going on here.
so you would say your strongest plays are vikings -6 and giants over? considering viking 1H? i think they come out blazing. and i dont think there can be an argument made for the under in the giants game, we know eli is gonna do what he always does, although they might come out sluggish after that big win in sanfrancisco and the line tells me that redskins are going to score a lot here as well.
unfortunately i hate teasers as the lines are often way off i think so i wont play the packers game. would you consider browns +1 or ML your 3rd strongest play? because if so, i think i am gonna go with these three.

honestly bro it has always been really hard for me to weight plays in terms of strength...i could tell you what my fav one is but then inevitable that be the one that loses..i really like that i got the over in nyg before it got up to where it at now as 51 a decently important number but yea i mean hard not to see points, even if nyg sluggish which i almost expect from them at times (not so sure this week as it is div gm and skins getting some hype) it usually on the defensive side and early on, eli always shows up at some point and against skins d id expect him to hit 30,,think rg3 will be gm and mobile qbs have never been something gmen handle real well so i fully expect this to be a gm, by my math if nyg hits 30 and skins are in it we have a over!

i understand not liking teasers but i have done quite well with them on small doggies and taking the right favs under 3 this yr... i think browns are the better team but the fact i didnt play them at +3 or get in when the ml was in a good spot i felt it was simply more value teasing them over a td but i expect them to win...reason for teasing rams pretty simple as i have a little bit of margin for error on that gm as i think the cover of the spread solely depends on whether or not stl can punch in red zone trips instead of settling, hard to determine as rams have been bad in red zone but pack d is allowing a high percentage of red zone tds so i think that could go either way

again with minny i like that i got them at -6 as i didnt wanna lay a td, but at same time scares me a little how much line has steamed up...


gun to head i have no problem with browns just thought the value has been sucked dry before i bet it,,,very good number of these small dogs i tease have won outright tho so tht may be a good sign...


glad to have you on board and hope to see you in here earlier on in the coming weeks,,,as i think the discussion is much more valuable than my actual plays as i think in the end we should all make our own decisions....bol this week..

[2daBank]

adding..

browns ml +105
browns 1st half pk +105...just in case luck brings his 2nd half magic...half unti on each,,sux we didnt play this earlier in week but still feel like cle wins, just not getting the + we should,,,,oh well, lol..

[freshguy222]

hey banker
any thoughts on the SNF game, liking bengals here at home, steelers are still high in public perception and should not be favored on the road. i dont necessarily like the bengals as a team either but right now i rate the steelers in the lower third in the NFL on the road.

[2daBank]

hey banker
any thoughts on the SNF game, liking bengals here at home, steelers are still high in public perception and should not be favored on the road. i dont necessarily like the bengals as a team either but right now i rate the steelers in the lower third in the NFL on the road.

i think this one really tough,,im with you im not real high on either team, i think big ben have a field day through the air but i havnt checked the status of a lot of pit oline that was already thin and ravaged with injuries against titans and cincy can get after the qb,,,gun to head i took bungels in pools i play in but i more than likely wont wager on it as ill be watching my cardinals hopefully punch their ticket to the WS

im pretty sure pit record after a loss has been impeccable under tomlin,,,not 100% tho as my memory isnt what it once was, might wanna check on that..

[freshguy222]

i think this one really tough,,im with you im not real high on either team, i think big ben have a field day through the air but i havnt checked the status of a lot of pit oline that was already thin and ravaged with injuries against titans and cincy can get after the qb,,,gun to head i took bungels in pools i play in but i more than likely wont wager on it as ill be watching my cardinals hopefully punch their ticket to the WS

im pretty sure pit record after a loss has been impeccable under tomlin,,,not 100% tho as my memory isnt what it once was, might wanna check on that..

thanks for the quick answer
im sorry for your cardinals today, in think that carpenter is gonna be hit early, ill be on the over and giants. you probably saw the last game carpenter pitched and he got so unfreakin lucky in that game.

[2daBank]

thanks for the quick answer
im sorry for your cardinals today, in think that carpenter is gonna be hit early, ill be on the over and giants. you probably saw the last game carpenter pitched and he got so unfreakin lucky in that game.

knowing my cards ive figured this was destined for 7 gms from the get go as they love drama, lol...also knowing my cards i think sf dug themselves to big a hole cause while the offense does go in funks not often does it not hit for 3 gms str8 and that what it will take for sf to pull out the series....far as carp goes at this point it really hard to cap what him or waino will give you from start to start right now, Carp still only a handful of starts into the season and his curve isnt its normal snapping self as of yet,,he is a warrior tho and sf offense has enough holes i think he can navigate his way thru the lineup with smart and get thru 6 w/o allowing more than a few, question is can voglesong shut this team down twice in 1 series? both pens have been lights out for most part so it a race to the 6th inning imo,,,,,if you like over id suggest 1st 5 as if they not over the ff number it would shock me if the pens give up enough to allow the gm over to cash....

[freshguy222]

yeah ff over might be an option here. i just think that right now i want the way better pitcher who would be vogelsong. i give carpenter credit for getting out of difficult innings often with smart pitches but there is also luck to it and i think his was spent the last time he pitched as the giants were actually all over him there.

[2daBank]

no talking shit on me for this one,,just taking a fun little shot..

2 team pleaser +600... .3 to 1.8

ten-2
panthers-3....i know they bad but ive never seen so many "game of the year" threads on one gm so what the hell, lol....

[2daBank]

maybe im wrong on this one and aints are gonna break out casue they "need it", but im just not a buyer in this team.




Bucs ev .5 to .5

where is jinxpro with our props for the day!!

[groovybrandone]

hahah jinx gave us a baller prop on thurs bank!

[groovybrandone]

ten panthers pleaser doesnt look bad tbh

[2daBank]

hahah jinx gave us a baller prop on thurs bank!

no doubt,,,,his props have been str8 cash all throughout this thread, he has made a believer out of me! i saw tht fantasy h2h thing again last 1 i liked was bradford vs wilson and it hit,,,today i sw martin was pk with sproles and thought that be great but then i checked rules and you get more for a reception then for anything else so not so goood....need jinxy!

ten panthers pleaser doesnt look bad tbh

yea i mean for 6 to 1 what the hell, i think titans can win and honestly have no clue on dal/car but fading 10 game of year threads around here has to be +ev,,lol..