Banker throwin darts at the NFL (all season!)

[jinxpro13]

bank what you think about the total on thursday? i suck at totals as you know so would love your thoughts. initially i thought this game would be over... i know were both on the same page with tampa's chances of winning im just not sure where I should be putting my money tomorrow if i should at all. not confident in very much about the game other than tampa keeping it close. at this point im thinking were gonna see a lot of yards eaten up without many TDs.. i think we may see a lot of FGs.. ponder has been playing like crap and tampa has a stout run D that may be able to force some punts on the first few drives.
now tampa has been a lot better in the redzone this year, but i could very easily see them bailing for FGs as well.
obviously leaning under here.. what you thinking

[groovybrandone]

5d finally showing 1h lines as well. 21.5 doesnt seem too bad here

[2daBank]

bank what you think about the total on thursday? i suck at totals as you know so would love your thoughts. initially i thought this game would be over... i know were both on the same page with tampa's chances of winning im just not sure where I should be putting my money tomorrow if i should at all. not confident in very much about the game other than tampa keeping it close. at this point im thinking were gonna see a lot of yards eaten up without many TDs.. i think we may see a lot of FGs.. ponder has been playing like crap and tampa has a stout run D that may be able to force some punts on the first few drives.
now tampa has been a lot better in the redzone this year, but i could very easily see them bailing for FGs as well.
obviously leaning under here.. what you thinking

5d finally showing 1h lines as well. 21.5 doesnt seem too bad here

you guys know what it is, i mean if you ask me to cap it i can make a decent case for the over here but that isnt what we been doing on these thu nights, that said the only other time ive said this is the only 1st half under we lost, i like the bucs side quite a but and im debating right now if maybe i should stick with that and not worry about total (just so hard not to play them tho), either way i will have more on the bucs +6.5 than i will on the 1st half under, if i choose to play it ill post it but i just havnt decided yet..21.5 aint bad brandon but honestly id feel better if they made it 21 or even 20.5 as it almost like they asking for under as several have been a few ticks lower than adding them up to reach total where obviously 21.5 x2 = 43 which higher than total by half point and most been opposite of that that i recall...

[2daBank]

plays so far..

bucs+6.5 1.5x

indy/ten ov 46.5 1x

2 team 6 point teaser 2.2 to 2

mia +8.5
chi-2



leans..

pit-4.5
phi -2.5/ml ??

[jinxpro13]

plays so far..

bucs+6.5 1.5x

indy/ten ov 46.5 1x

2 team 6 point teaser 2.2 to 2

mia +8.5
chi-2



leans..

pit-4.5
phi -2.5/ml ??

man i like philly to win this week i do, but they shouldn't be favored in my mind so where is the value to me? i like suicide's take on teasing atlanta cuz as much as i like philly to win i like atlanta to keep it close. nice opportunity for a teaser here more than ml value with philly in my humble, stoned opinion

[jinxpro13]

you guys know what it is, i mean if you ask me to cap it i can make a decent case for the over here but that isnt what we been doing on these thu nights, that said the only other time ive said this is the only 1st half under we lost, i like the bucs side quite a but and im debating right now if maybe i should stick with that and not worry about total (just so hard not to play them tho), either way i will have more on the bucs +6.5 than i will on the 1st half under, if i choose to play it ill post it but i just havnt decided yet..21.5 aint bad brandon but honestly id feel better if they made it 21 or even 20.5 as it almost like they asking for under as several have been a few ticks lower than adding them up to reach total where obviously 21.5 x2 = 43 which higher than total by half point and most been opposite of that that i recall...

my book has the 1st half at 21. wouldn't be surprised to see a push here. like tampa to start out strong against AP.. forcing ponder to complete some 3rd down throws.. if he plays how hes played last few weeks we should see punts..
as far as tampa goes will they be punting?.. score a TD or two in the first half? eat up a bunch of yards n b forced to FG's? obviously thisll be key. im uneasy bout that first half under

[2daBank]

man i like philly to win this week i do, but they shouldn't be favored in my mind so where is the value to me? i like suicide's take on teasing atlanta cuz as much as i like philly to win i like atlanta to keep it close. nice opportunity for a teaser here more than ml value with philly in my humble, stoned opinion

to me it goes like this, vick stays mistake free, you could tease atl to 13 and it wouldnt matter,,that said what are odds vick stays mistake free? probably not great, few turnovers and it prob be close...cant blame anyone for teasing atl, that said im of the opinion that phi wins this gm and handily so for me phi is the play, i almost grabbed them this morning as dsi went to -3 +115 (YA KNOW HOW IM A SUCKER FOR THAT + MONEY )

[2daBank]

well of coarse dsi is taking forever to put out 1st half total, it is what it is, ya'll know how it has done thus far and ya'll big boys so do what you think is best...

not sure ill have time to post it but im gonna keep playing it till it goes really bad...

tb/min 1st half un 21/21.5 (dont know what i will get) half unit same as ive bet on every 1 i believe (prob should have played them for more from the jump, hindsight and all ,lol)....

[jinxpro13]

well of coarse dsi is taking forever to put out 1st half total, it is what it is, ya'll know how it has done thus far and ya'll big boys so do what you think is best...

not sure ill have time to post it but im gonna keep playing it till it goes really bad...

tb/min 1st half un 21/21.5 (dont know what i will get) half unit same as ive bet on every 1 i believe (prob should have played them for more from the jump, hindsight and all ,lol)....

just teased tampa at +13.5.. parlayed it with the first half under.
considering taking minnesota winning margin 1-6 as the odds are nice.
also like clemson tonight.

[Madison]

you guys know what it is, i mean if you ask me to cap it i can make a decent case for the over here but that isnt what we been doing on these thu nights, that said the only other time ive said this is the only 1st half under we lost, i like the bucs side quite a but and im debating right now if maybe i should stick with that and not worry about total (just so hard not to play them tho), either way i will have more on the bucs +6.5 than i will on the 1st half under, if i choose to play it ill post it but i just havnt decided yet..21.5 aint bad brandon but honestly id feel better if they made it 21 or even 20.5 as it almost like they asking for under as several have been a few ticks lower than adding them up to reach total where obviously 21.5 x2 = 43 which higher than total by half point and most been opposite of that that i recall...

2DB if you like TB don't we have to like the Under.

[2daBank]

Well it seems when we decide the 1st half under isn't good it doesn't hit, at Least this time we gonna come out ahead as bucs were easier than advertised...

[Dexter]

As for the Falcons, I don't buy into the Eagles having a ton of value here, despite Andy Reid's record off a bye. I know the line looks odd to some, but considering the preseason line was Eagles -6.5, and the Eagles continue to be a team that's loaded with talent and have underperformed due to bad play calling and turnovers, I don't think -2.5 is really so out of line. The only real edge the Eagles have here is LeSean McCoy against an average to weak run defense. However inconsistency in the Eagles OL and a shortage of touches for McCoy make that advantage highly questionable. The Falcons have been weakest defending runs off the right end, so with Vick preferring to roll left, I think the key to victory for the Eagles lies with Dunlap/Bell having a productive day, winning at the LOS and creating opportunities for McCoy/Vick to run the ball around the left end.

I don't think Maclin/Jackson are going to win the 1 on 1 battles downfield against the Falcons corners in their base coverage, and Vick will be under pressure at times, so if I was Andy Reid, I would be prioritizing ball control in this game with a lot of designed runs for Vick and McCoy, a timely end around for Jackson, and creative use of Brent Celek in the short passing game underneath, where there should be a decent amount of space to operate. The Eagles need to play mistake free ball and force Atlanta to stop them at the line of scrimmage, only then taking shots downfield and allow the fast WRs opportunities to win 1-on-1

That being said, I don't think Reid is going to take this approach. Vick has personally turned the ball over a minimum of 2 times per game in five of six games this year. I think if the Eagles take a conventional approach to offense in this game, we're probably talking about the Eagles having to make up at least a -1/-2 TO margin. A team that's had 5 of 6 games end in a margin of a FG or less this year can't afford to be giving that up every game. I also don't think the firing of Castillo actually changes things that much for the Eagles. Their defense has not been the problem this year, so much as short fields given up to opponents off turnovers and poor offensive play calling.

The Eagles defense is currently ranked 9th in the NFL, but they're 27th on offense and 27th in special teams. Castillo is just a scapegoat. On defense, the Eagles are 31st in average starting field position allowed to opponents (31.5 yd line), while Atlanta ranks 1st (23 yd line). On offense, PHI is also 31st (starting at their own 23.5 yd line) and Atlanta is 4th (starting at their own 30 yd line). That's a differential of ~8 yards of field position every time the teams trade possessions. In a game that I would expect to feature big defensive plays on both ends and a low score, that differential is a killer.

The Falcons playcalling is solid. Koetter and Nolan have done a lot for this team on both sides of the ball. This was most apparent in the first few weeks of the season as the Falcons had time to prepare for their opponents. Now with a bye to prepare and a 6-0 record to protect, I really think this is a big spot for Atlanta to show off that creativity from the OC/DC in employing complicated schemes and misdirection.

I don't really care at all about public bettors or Andy Reid's record. Atlanta wins this game.

wow - shocked to see you on Atlanta in a spot like this.

with how im running, you're probably golden...

[jinxpro13]

Well it seems when we decide the 1st half under isn't good it doesn't hit, at Least this time we gonna come out ahead as bucs were easier than advertised...

ya that over blew a beautiful parlay for me. still up cuz of tampa and have some huge live tickets going into sunday.
where are we at with sea/det bank?
i like detroit here. desperate game for them after a disgusting game last week. you know detroit took notice of minnesota losing tonight. seattle doesn't travel to the east well. they should have lost to the panthers if cam didn't throw the ball into the ground for no reason to end the game. love the value here. ya seattle has those big, sick DB's, and Lynch will be rolling , but if detroit could just get a f*cking lead for once it would take lynch out of the game.

[2daBank]

ya that over blew a beautiful parlay for me. still up cuz of tampa and have some huge live tickets going into sunday.
where are we at with sea/det bank?
i like detroit here. desperate game for them after a disgusting game last week. you know detroit took notice of minnesota losing tonight. seattle doesn't travel to the east well. they should have lost to the panthers if cam didn't throw the ball into the ground for no reason to end the game. love the value here. ya seattle has those big, sick DB's, and Lynch will be rolling , but if detroit could just get a f*cking lead for once it would take lynch out of the game.

i just cant trust stafford vs that secondary bro,,,if anything i think throwing a very winnable gm against chi and burying themselves in the toughest div is demoralizing more than a springboard for success, it seems you take away megatron and you stop the lions, and imo seachickens are more well equipped to handle him than just about anyone,,,i know sea going east (or anywhere on the road for that matter) isnt the best thing for them but ive always been of the opinion that run game and defense travel and sea certainly has both of those, i dont think the fact they could have lost to the panthers has any bearing on how you should approach this gm...i agree with what sk said that sea will challenge det corners vertically a lot more than chi did and that something im not sure lions can handle with a banged up secondary, and damn did cutler have some running lanes in that monday night gm! no offense to cutler but if he had that much room to rome i have to believe wilson could really make them pay scrambling.. .. i really dont see value with det seeing how i would make sea favs on a neutral field...not sure i get involved but to me it is sea or nothing, sea teased is somewhat appealing as well but again im not real far along on this one just my initial thoughts...

[2daBank]

wow - shocked to see you on Atlanta in a spot like this.

with how im running, you're probably golden...

glad to see you stop by dex,,,would be great if you started joining in on the weekly discussion we have going on round here...im with you as obviously me and sk disagree on this one,,,also appears there a good chance for some windy and rainy conditions which i would think favors the team i believe can run better in this gm and to me that clearly philly... i still have to think about this gm some more as it hard to lay any points at all with philly but i really believe they win this gm and not so sure it will be close (obviously if sk is right and phi is -2 in the turnover department prob will be close and maybe im delusional but i think vick plays a clean gm, clean enough anyway)..still all it really comes down to me at this point is we talking about a atl team that is giving up over 5 ypc and that just not something i believe a team can go on road and keep getting away with...

[No coincidences]

Nice hit with Tampa Banker. I had them too. Layup.

[2daBank]

plays so far..

bucs+6.5 1.5x

indy/ten ov 46.5 1x

2 team 6 point teaser 2.2 to 2

mia +8.5
chi-2



leans..

pit-4.5
phi -2.5/ml ??

pit-4.5 1.5x....been getting the better of the lines lately, honestly dont know where this one ends up but i feel pretty good here...

im done hating on rg3, the kid can play i admit it! that said he is going to pit to face a Lebeau defense that is not easy on rookies (no matter how good they are), i liken this to when luck went to the meadowlands to face a rex ryan d a few weeks back, you know he will see a bunch of looks he has never seen as of yet.. believe this will be rg3 1st look at a 3-4 defense as well and from all forecast ive seen good chance this gm will be played on a sloppy field, cant imagine that gonna benefit his gm...

big ben and those wrs vs a skins secondary everyone is carving up, steelers havnt been anything special as of yet but here they are sitting at 3-3 with most teams with a chance to start making a move, pouncy comes back which makes everything better up front..for all their issues i still think this a team that will be around come playoff time and to do be that team you win this gm,,this line just feels short to me, for all steelers problems they dont amount to the issues skins have defensively and this line saying pit is barely a fav on a neutral field? im not buying that, id have made it -6 and id still be tempted,, feel like the biggest worry here is pit up 10/11 points late and rg3 hits them with a backdoor cover but im willing to take my chances...

[Madison]

to me it goes like this, vick stays mistake free, you could tease atl to 13 and it wouldnt matter,,that said what are odds vick stays mistake free? probably not great, few turnovers and it prob be close...cant blame anyone for teasing atl, that said im of the opinion that phi wins this gm and handily so for me phi is the play, i almost grabbed them this morning as dsi went to -3 +115 (YA KNOW HOW IM A SUCKER FOR THAT + MONEY )

Just a heads up. Tis the season for warm weather\indoor teams heading north and outside. Buyer beware.

[Madison]

i just cant trust stafford vs that secondary bro,,,if anything i think throwing a very winnable gm against chi and burying themselves in the toughest div is demoralizing more than a springboard for success, it seems you take away megatron and you stop the lions, and imo seachickens are more well equipped to handle him than just about anyone,,,i know sea going east (or anywhere on the road for that matter) isnt the best thing for them but ive always been of the opinion that run game and defense travel and sea certainly has both of those, i dont think the fact they could have lost to the panthers has any bearing on how you should approach this gm...i agree with what sk said that sea will challenge det corners vertically a lot more than chi did and that something im not sure lions can handle with a banged up secondary, and damn did cutler have some running lanes in that monday night gm! no offense to cutler but if he had that much room to rome i have to believe wilson could really make them pay scrambling.. .. i really dont see value with det seeing how i would make sea favs on a neutral field...not sure i get involved but to me it is sea or nothing, sea teased is somewhat appealing as well but again im not real far along on this one just my initial thoughts...

I'm thinking Sea D loses a bit the faster the turf. Thoughts?

[2daBank]

Just a heads up. Tis the season for warm weather\indoor teams heading north and outside. Buyer beware.

I'm thinking Sea D loses a bit the faster the turf. Thoughts?

maybe it just to early for me bro but these are both to cryptic for me, lol...1st 1 are you saying warm weather/dome team (atl) coming north is good or bad for them? cant imagine it good, lol..

2nd 1, lose a little bit of what? doesnt sea play on turf at home? pretty sure it a different turf but id rather understand exactly what you saying before i try and give you my best answer...

[JayLA]

you guys know what it is, i mean if you ask me to cap it i can make a decent case for the over here

we should have.
one thing i notice is that in your reasoning throughout this thread, you usually point out something that happens in the game...whether you make a play on it or not.

your reasoning is heads and shoulders above others on this board when it comes to the NFL dog, real talk

and you don't skimp on text, you knock it out. i appreciate that. others are pretty good with selections but never share thought process. others type pages with shit that leaves me wondering if they've ever seen a game.

gambling with solid reasoning, what a fukking concept.

[2daBank]

gambling with solid reasoning, what a fukking concept.

that funny jay,,,i appreciate the kind words..i value all the discussion in this thread not just mine and i hope we can continue with way it has been going moving forward

[Madison]

maybe it just to early for me bro but these are both to cryptic for me, lol...1st 1 are you saying warm weather/dome team (atl) coming north is good or bad for them? cant imagine it good, lol..

2nd 1, lose a little bit of what? doesnt sea play on turf at home? pretty sure it a different turf but id rather understand exactly what you saying before i try and give you my best answer...

yeah i always keep tabs on the weather angle. Not severe yet but still a consideration for me.

I'll plead too early and multitasking on the 2nd.

[freshguy222]

i like Pitt -4,5, Broncos -6, Chiefs ML, Dolphins +3, Browns +3, Titans -3,5, Lions -2,5
any thoughts on these banker? i would personally play all of them 1Q and 1H and FG

[groovybrandone]

pit/was game may be worth a look on the over as well. ill be out of town so i dont get to check in over the weekend but pitt with a struggling + injured d, and skins are a fairly high powered offense can put up some points. pit can sling the ball as well

[imarkp]

banker has a rain day so ready to start talking this weeks card, hopefully we can get as much good discussion as last week....

atl/phi...this has to be gm of the week and i already have seen several threads about it we all know what reid's teams do off a bye so no need talking bout that...

lets talk bout atl while i like this team and they have passed every road test thus far(something they have struggled with in years past), but in reality they have had a pretty easy go of it in their road test to date...this is a team that has been out rushed in all but 1 gm this season and allow opponents over 5 ypc! maybe im too old school and the ground gm isnt as important as in years past but to me you simply are not elite getting owned on the ground like that!

i was ready to bang a little on Reids gm planning as my perception of phi is they never run enough but i must admit maybe my perception was a little skewed as phi avg 30 attempts a gm ranking them 9th in the league, granted im sure vick scrambling accounts for more of that than it should i was still surprised to see it...before phi last 2 losses they won the rushing battle in every gm prior, im sure if i can figure this out reid is smart enough to look at the falcons d and do the same..

far as philly goes i truly believe they are very capable of being one of the better teams at the end of this season, i feel like ive been burnt by them a bunch but in reality i think it was only the balt gm and maybe nyg on short spreads, know cashed on them against pit, what im saying is obviously i have bet several of their gms in one way or another and the same thing always happens, phi drives field in most gms and the whole time im hoping like hell they score before they get inside the 20 as this where the real problems come to fruition with this team,,,site i use for my numbers is having problems today so bare w me but i know the numbers have to be bad (thinking well under 50% of trips in tds and a high number with no points at all), imo this is a correctable problem and one that if fixed will have phi putting teams away ...for this week i know atl has given up a very high conversion percent in the red zone and they mostly rushing touchdowns so pay attention andy, give mccoy the rock early and often!

the oline coach to defensive coordinator experiment is finally over (wtf was he thinking in the 1st place ill never know), this d was already respectable and 1 would have to assume it can only get better with a qualified guy calling the shots..

honestly i am so tempted to break the golden rule here and tease the fav, not sure ive ever done this but i only see this gm 2 ways, either phi fixes the red zone mistakes and blows atl out or they continue to shoot themselves in the foot and matty ice has a chance to steal this thing late,,,either way phi+3.5 is incredibly likely to hit imho but maybe i get burnt as i feel dirty inside even suggesting teasing a fav across the 0...

I live in philly area. listen to alot of sports talk. birds have been frustrating to watch this year. oline sucks w/o peters and kelce. undersized, yet they still take 5 and 7 step drops. vicks been getting killed. can't even set up good screen passes anymore which was a staple in their o. expect more short passes underneath even though the team is built for the quick hit. need to utilize mccoy more.

special teams need help. why not jackson on punt returns? he says he's willing. reid despertly trying to keep job. knows he at least has to make playoffs to be back next yr. more than implied by owner. 8-8 won't do it. running out of scapegoats. is vick next? interested to see what happens if he turns it over a couple times in first half.

d has been solid except in 4th qtr. 5 blown leads leading to losses last yr, 2 this yr. expect more blitzes even though their personel isn't suited for that. they rely on front 4 preasure which hasn't been delivering enough. no sacks last 3 wks. teams are trying to get rid of ball quick against them. new d coordinater, bowles, has more player respect than castillo did.

expect solid effort but unsure if offense can fix itself. vick is a fumbling machine. suspect play calling, poor clock management, red zone miscues happen too often not to be a trend. reid is a very good game planner but doesn't think quick enough in the moment.

13-0 after bye under reid. atlanta had bye too. should be another tight game decided in 4th qrt. under reid eagles have been much better in 2nd half of season. this game goes a long way in deciding whether that continues this yr.

I'll be watching intently but prob. not betting. maybe in a teaser. 1 of those games where you could win teasing either way. this yr not betting eagles ats. 3 wins total 4pts doesn't get it done when fav. overall they're 1-5ats . 24-20 phila. imho

[2daBank]

pit/was game may be worth a look on the over as well. ill be out of town so i dont get to check in over the weekend but pitt with a struggling + injured d, and skins are a fairly high powered offense can put up some points. pit can sling the ball as well

not sure how weather gonna be there yet, certainly understand over but i just liked pit better than total.. no sense in being in a hurry to bet it tho, i prob jumped gun as i doubt line does a whole lot, if anything i may have been able to catch a 4 if i wasnt so impatient, honestly wasnt much sense in betting when i did just liked it when i finished it and bet w/o thinking where line may go, not like @ -4.5 it going up to 5/5.5 would change a whole lot...

far as total goes it seems to be moving down so again if you like over might as well see what happens...

[2daBank]

i like Pitt -4,5, Broncos -6, Chiefs ML, Dolphins +3, Browns +3, Titans -3,5, Lions -2,5
any thoughts on these banker? i would personally play all of them 1Q and 1H and FG

obviously i agree with pit and mia...

i just cant lay the 3.5 with a titan team that doesnt play much defense,,not interested in indy either, happy with the number i got on over as the only thing i felt good about in this gm was points from both teams, which prob means it end 6-3, lol...

id be lying if i acted like i knew wtf the oak/kc gm was gonna play out like, wouldnt mind hearing you thoughts on that one, the sd/cle gm, and the sea/det gm....i understand cle but not sure i want in on that gm,,,i lean other way and posted some thoughts somewhere in here about that sea/det gm but again dont feel real strongly about it either way..

i lean den as well but i think the line is pretty tight, think if you go back a page there some thoughts on that one feel free to add (still kinda just waiting on this one)..

if you dont mind me asking why 1q/1st half/and gm? half/gm i do at times but ive never been into the 1st qrt, just curious why spread them out so much? especially den seeing how they been such slow starters (i guess maybe hopefully they tried addressing that during bye but still)...

[Madison]

FWIW ... the Atl/Phi game was one of the first I crossed off as "coin flip". I think you accumulate grey hairs here either way.

[2daBank]

FWIW ... the Atl/Phi game was one of the first I crossed off as "coin flip". I think you accumulate grey hairs here either way.

probably so,,that said it is one of the better gms on the card and what can i say im kinda a degen honestly if i was gonna play phi i should have did lot earlier as now im looking at -3 and i didnt feel great giving any points to begin with, pretty damn sure phi wins (well i guess as sure as 1 can be in nfl, so not very,lol) but then again last gm like this they beat balt and screwed me on a short line..who knows but i like phi enough that id image they end up in a 2 team ml parlay or something before it all said and done...maybe phi ml/pit ml that sounds reasonable, ill call it my Pennsylvania parlay! lol

[jinxpro13]

i just cant trust stafford vs that secondary bro,,,if anything i think throwing a very winnable gm against chi and burying themselves in the toughest div is demoralizing more than a springboard for success, it seems you take away megatron and you stop the lions, and imo seachickens are more well equipped to handle him than just about anyone,,,i know sea going east (or anywhere on the road for that matter) isnt the best thing for them but ive always been of the opinion that run game and defense travel and sea certainly has both of those, i dont think the fact they could have lost to the panthers has any bearing on how you should approach this gm...i agree with what sk said that sea will challenge det corners vertically a lot more than chi did and that something im not sure lions can handle with a banged up secondary, and damn did cutler have some running lanes in that monday night gm! no offense to cutler but if he had that much room to rome i have to believe wilson could really make them pay scrambling.. .. i really dont see value with det seeing how i would make sea favs on a neutral field...not sure i get involved but to me it is sea or nothing, sea teased is somewhat appealing as well but again im not real far along on this one just my initial thoughts...

detroit definitely not to be trusted for sure i hear u.. schwartz is a c*ck , stafford is a f\*g and these teams' arrows are in different directions..
sometimes i just like betting semi-good ,desperate teams with their backs against the wall..maybe its a stupid thing to do , but its how ive always bet and its treated me well. teasing the hawks seems to be the smart play, but ive already peppered detroit ML on some parlays. it is what it is.

[freshguy222]

obviously i agree with pit and mia...

i just cant lay the 3.5 with a titan team that doesnt play much defense,,not interested in indy either, happy with the number i got on over as the only thing i felt good about in this gm was points from both teams, which prob means it end 6-3, lol...

id be lying if i acted like i knew wtf the oak/kc gm was gonna play out like, wouldnt mind hearing you thoughts on that one, the sd/cle gm, and the sea/det gm....i understand cle but not sure i want in on that gm,,,i lean other way and posted some thoughts somewhere in here about that sea/det gm but again dont feel real strongly about it either way..

i lean den as well but i think the line is pretty tight, think if you go back a page there some thoughts on that one feel free to add (still kinda just waiting on this one)..

if you dont mind me asking why 1q/1st half/and gm? half/gm i do at times but ive never been into the 1st qrt, just curious why spread them out so much? especially den seeing how they been such slow starters (i guess maybe hopefully they tried addressing that during bye but still)...

it is just the way my picks always play out, my teams come outn firing and then they shit the bed late in the game
liking panthers +7 and eagles as well, falcons are due for a bad game that they then eventually really lose, had some close ones but they are overdue in my mind, same goes for bears actually

[2daBank]

fair enough,,,,tell me what you see in the oak/kc gm fresh... kc wins with run gm and defense? low scoring? i have to decide between Palmer and that fukktard rivers for one of my fantasy teams this week, you like kc convince me

[2daBank]

wow this forum is littered with more moronic trash than normal this week, half of it by the same dipshits that claim to kill nfl yr after yr but all ive seen them do is post losers week after week, you can spot these jerkoffs from a mile away as they insist on making a thread about every gm and inside said thread is nothing but flat out ignorance...holy shit, it like it their goal to have the whole front page littered with fukkin junk, makes you think we should encourage more abortion in this country...

[jinxpro13]

fair enough,,,,tell me what you see in the oak/kc gm fresh... kc wins with run gm and defense? low scoring? i have to decide between Palmer and that fukktard rivers for one of my fantasy teams this week, you like kc convince me

tough choice! i hope/think norv turner FINALLY rides mattews this week! id still roll with rivers though.

wow this forum is littered with more moronic trash than normal this week, half of it by the same dipshits that claim to kill nfl yr after yr but all ive seen them do is post losers week after week, you can spot these jerkoffs from a mile away as they insist on making a thread about every gm and inside said thread is nothing but flat out ignorance...holy shit, it like it their goal to have the whole front page littered with fukkin junk, makes you think we should encourage more abortion in this country...