Banker throwin darts at the NFL (all season!)

[jinxpro13]

bank .. thoughts on bal @ hou?
I think the value here is with baltimore. theyve burned me this year already and the injuries are piling up so im not very confident.. but to be underdogs by a TD i really like. Houston is obviously one of the best teams in the league, but I still think they're overrated...some of my boys rip into to me for saying that, but like you said bank I could see the upset to GB coming a mile away after their performance against the jets. schaub's overrated too. pure game manager. would love to hear your thoughts on the matchups... as always with houston; if you can come close to slowing down foster, you have a chance. can baltimore do it?

[jinxpro13]

bank dont mean to clog up your thread with shit, but assuming/hoping youre cool with me bringing up picks and analysis in here.

since im hot with props thought id like to share one with you for thursday and get your thoughts.... alex smith 225.5 passing yards..
i wanna load up on that under till the cows come how. I doubt alex smith passes for over 175 against that seahawks defense. people whispering kaepernick may eat into smith's snaps even more this week... looks like a solid ass bet right here.

[suicidekings]

would like to talk about stl/gb gm, have no idea if there a play to be made just have some thoughts and would like anyone else to join in.

A large amount of GB's success came from extra opportunities on bad penalties after Houston had gotten the stop, and weak coverage in the secondary. Both of these were products of Houston running a different defensive scheme for much of the night than they were used to and the absence of Cushing. What was normally the Wade Phillips 5 wide pass rush was only 4 for much of the night and it wasn't generating pressure, giving Rodgers time to find the open man.

Fastforward to this week and The Packers will be facing an extremely aggressive front 7 backed by one of the better secondaries in the NFL, and playing their third road game in a row.

Ultimately, you beat the Packers by keeping the ball out of Aaron Rodgers hands more than anything, and that probably means Jackson and Richardson have to be dominant on the ground, and Bradford and his receivers need to execute on the opportunities they have. The GB defense is still a bit beaten up.

I made this game -5 though, so I'm not really seeing value. I do think the Packers will win the game.

[2daBank]

bank .. thoughts on bal @ hou?
I think the value here is with baltimore. theyve burned me this year already and the injuries are piling up so im not very confident.. but to be underdogs by a TD i really like. Houston is obviously one of the best teams in the league, but I still think they're overrated...some of my boys rip into to me for saying that, but like you said bank I could see the upset to GB coming a mile away after their performance against the jets. schaub's overrated too. pure game manager. would love to hear your thoughts on the matchups... as always with houston; if you can come close to slowing down foster, you have a chance. can baltimore do it?

loss of webb is a absolute killer for the ravens, killa ray not as much as he more of the emotional leader than the playmaker he once was,,,,think the biggest question is that big beast in the middle, think i heard sprained mcl for ngata and he gonna play but how effective will he be? knock Shaub if you must but he certainly better than tj yates and hou gave a healthy balt all they could handle in the playoffs @ balt with him at qb... i think Shaub will hit aj early to loosen up the bal run d as that seems to be hou mo as of late and w/o webb just not sure who gonna stop that considering if they give help foster will go off... i still question ravens new look offense on the road as they tend to struggle getting the no huddle going leaving their d on the field for long stretches, remember kc owned the los and controlled that whole gm gashing ravens run d before the injuries..all that said i think bal can get some big plays and use rice underneath on hou and stay in gm, i couldnt lay the points..

[suicidekings]

I actually really like the ML parlay option this week. Some combination of San Fransisco, Houston, New England, Minnesota, Chicago. A Vikings/Bears 6 point tease for -110 also seems like a very strong play to me.

The only game I've played as of now is the Titans +3.5/ML.

[jinxpro13]

I actually really like the ML parlay option this week. Some combination of San Fransisco, Houston, New England, Minnesota, Chicago. A Vikings/Bears 6 point tease for -110 also seems like a very strong play to me.

The only game I've played as of now is the Titans +3.5/ML.

very much agree. throw GB on thur

[2daBank]

bank dont mean to clog up your thread with shit, but assuming/hoping youre cool with me bringing up picks and analysis in here.

since im hot with props thought id like to share one with you for thursday and get your thoughts.... alex smith 225.5 passing yards..
i wanna load up on that under till the cows come how. I doubt alex smith passes for over 175 against that seahawks defense. people whispering kaepernick may eat into smith's snaps even more this week... looks like a solid ass bet right here.

the more talk the better my brother,,im not here to post plays and get a following (as you may notice i dont even track a record, lol)... i havnt seen you post a prop that was off to be honest, i never play them but you got me pretty convinced they not a bad idea (i did mention that bradford over wilson fantasy prop thingy! which was money id assume even tho still not sure how scoring works im sure bradford outscored wilson in that 1!)...dont think smith touched 175 last yr and while he has better wrs id go out on limb and say seachicken d is even better,,not sure i buy into kapernick taking a lot of the snaps this week but either way i think i will join you and play my 1st prop on this one!!

[2daBank]

I actually really like the ML parlay option this week. Some combination of San Fransisco, Houston, New England, Minnesota, Chicago. A Vikings/Bears 6 point tease for -110 also seems like a very strong play to me.

The only game I've played as of now is the Titans +3.5/ML.

i agree with all of that,think every gm you mention that is the winning team,,bears is the one id be most reluctant with as much as i love their d i could see johnson blowing the top off the cover 2, then again not sure if stafford is patient enough not to make mistakes, biggest worry is det dline vs bears biggest weakness (not to mention only time i ever include mon night in anything is my sun nite/mon nite degen parlay and i just havnt got into those yet)...glad you coming over for the discussion sk as i always respect your opinion


havnt looked into the ten/buf gm a whole lot but think me and you both agree ten a lot better team with the old man behind center,,,think im starting fitzpatrick this week as rivers on bye(god rivers and his turnovers making me sick, damn near cost me a easy win) and still think ten pass d can be had, id expect some points in this one..

[2daBank]

A large amount of GB's success came from extra opportunities on bad penalties after Houston had gotten the stop, and weak coverage in the secondary. Both of these were products of Houston running a different defensive scheme for much of the night than they were used to and the absence of Cushing. What was normally the Wade Phillips 5 wide pass rush was only 4 for much of the night and it wasn't generating pressure, giving Rodgers time to find the open man.

Fastforward to this week and The Packers will be facing an extremely aggressive front 7 backed by one of the better secondaries in the NFL, and playing their third road game in a row.

Ultimately, you beat the Packers by keeping the ball out of Aaron Rodgers hands more than anything, and that probably means Jackson and Richardson have to be dominant on the ground, and Bradford and his receivers need to execute on the opportunities they have. The GB defense is still a bit beaten up.

I made this game -5 though, so I'm not really seeing value. I do think the Packers will win the game.

i becoming more confident in bradfords ability to keep chains moving, and even hitting big plays when he has the time,,,is raji gonna be out again? that would go a long way in my confidence in stl run gm,,,i agree pack win and not to interested in the 5 atm, teasing rams up with under is somewhat appealing to me... but i could just as easily play pack ml with something else...

[groovybrandone]

alex smith passing yards props are out already? 5d puts them out so late and closes them early :/

[2daBank]

alex smith passing yards props are out already? 5d puts them out so late and closes them early :/

yea dsi/bookmaker dont come this early with them either,,i hope it as high as jinxy says tho cause i would def play that...

[jinxpro13]

alex smith passing yards props are out already? 5d puts them out so late and closes them early :/

i use sportsbook for props.

heres a copy n paste of the props of the game.

Alex Smith - Total Passing Yards

Over 225.5 -120

Under 225.5 -120

Frank Gore - Total Rushing Yards

Over 66.5 -125

Under 66.5 -116

Michael Crabtree - Total Receiving Yards

Over 60.5 -120

Under 60.5 -120

Russell Wilson - Total Passing Yards

Over 190.5 -131

Under 190.5 -111

Marshawn Lynch - Total Rushing Yards

Over 77.5 -125

Under 77.5 -116

Sidney Rice - Total Receiving Yards

Over 50.5 -120

Under 50.5 -120

at first glance the crabtree under looks sexy as well.

[groovybrandone]

ravens @ texans
the game seems like itll be close, but i think texans figure out their problem here and not let db's go one on one on the outside all game long. saw last week that ravens run d is horrific compared to their past which gives foster some running room. that is what generates their pass o and keeps defense on their heels. with ravens lacking their defensive team leader and one of their best (if not their best db) i see ravens hanging in and losing it in the 2h, specially if ngata isnt controlling his gaps

[groovybrandone]

jinx that prop looks sick, like too good to be true

alex has only gone over 225 twice, once it was 226 (lol). with both teams being predominantly ground and pound with shots only when d tightens up, it seems like thats just too good to be true. does short week prep affect this much?

[2daBank]

jinx that prop looks sick, like too good to be true

alex has only gone over 225 twice, once it was 226 (lol). with both teams being predominantly ground and pound with shots only when d tightens up, it seems like thats just too good to be true. does short week prep affect this much?

if we know anything about thu it certainly doesnt effect it in a negative way as offenses typically look like dogshit.. id be shocked if that number doesnt drop on smith before i ever see it

[jinxpro13]

ravens @ texans
the game seems like itll be close, but i think texans figure out their problem here and not let db's go one on one on the outside all game long. saw last week that ravens run d is horrific compared to their past which gives foster some running room. that is what generates their pass o and keeps defense on their heels. with ravens lacking their defensive team leader and one of their best (if not their best db) i see ravens hanging in and losing it in the 2h, specially if ngata isnt controlling his gaps

u know I really liked baltimore in this spot and while it seems like you and bank both agree baltimore could cover... you both give great reasons why they couldn't. I still highly doubt they get smoked. think Ill keep it safe & tease

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havnt looked into the ten/buf gm a whole lot but think me and you both agree ten a lot better team with the old man behind center,,,think im starting fitzpatrick this week as rivers on bye(god rivers and his turnovers making me sick, damn near cost me a easy win) and still think ten pass d can be had, id expect some points in this one..

staying far, far away from this game. buffalo @ home can be dangerous. titans more bi polar than my gf.
one of those coin-toss games id rather watch from afar. however, if you guys are on the titans i will go with them in my pools. hardest game to cap on sunday in my opinion.

[2daBank]

ravens @ texans
the game seems like itll be close, but i think texans figure out their problem here and not let db's go one on one on the outside all game long. saw last week that ravens run d is horrific compared to their past which gives foster some running room. that is what generates their pass o and keeps defense on their heels. with ravens lacking their defensive team leader and one of their best (if not their best db) i see ravens hanging in and losing it in the 2h, specially if ngata isnt controlling his gaps

hou is what they are on d and id still expect some 1 on 1 opportunities for ravens and ya know they gonna take shots with torey smith,,that said watt will do his parrt to make flacco think twice about standing back there on deep routes,,if they do make a effort to take deep ball away i think rice will have lots of success underneath,,,ultimately hou sports the best run gm in the nfl imo and balty can be run on (wasnt just last week, kc dominated balty on ground, we should have got the ml win in that gm if cassel didnt suck so bad) , i just cant take a team i think will be gashed on the ground from start to finish...

[jinxpro13]

if we know anything about thu it certainly doesnt effect it in a negative way as offenses typically look like dogshit.. id be shocked if that number doesnt drop on smith before i ever see it

lmao well i doubt my 60 dollar bet did much to drive it down. & I would be very comfortable taking anything under 205 there.

6204429

2012-10-17 06:59:37 PM

SEATTLE SEAHAWKS @ SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS / ALEX SMITH - TOTAL PASSING YARDS / UNDER 225.5 @ -120

OPEN

PENDING

STRAIGHT BET

60CAD

109.80CAD

lehgo

[2daBank]

u know I really liked baltimore in this spot and while it seems like you and bank both agree baltimore could cover... you both give great reasons why they couldn't. I still highly doubt they get smoked. think Ill keep it safe & tease



staying far, far away from this game. buffalo @ home can be dangerous. titans more bi polar than my gf.
one of those coin-toss games id rather watch from afar. however, if you guys are on the titans i will go with them in my pools. hardest game to cap on sunday in my opinion.

even tho i think hou wins i couldnt even argue a ton against raven ml as i seriously doubt odds are as great they win as ml indicates,,i dont buy it but it the fukkin nfl and not like bal is chopped liver, few plays here or there and all...that said how does hou not run all over these guys? banged up ngata and they gonna have to lend support on aj i would think as webb was only corner of their i would trust out on a island, jimmy smith has great potential but like webb now that he thrown in a starter role it will prob take a yr for him to get to shut down status....

yea im not saying i like titans as of yet,,obviously i had them week early and they preformed much better last week, im firm on them being much better team with hasslebeck under center (limp arm and all), he at least knows the offense and will get their many playmakers out in space which locker wasnt doing...im gonna roll with fitzpatrick in this gm for fantasy purposes as i think ten d has a lot of holes (this my other team, as you can see qb wasnt a high priority to me, lol)....jinx when you have a minute shoot me a pm with more details on that 5 dollar canada pool thing, i wish i understood it more last week as i think we could have got you paid, but i didnt really have the time once you brought it up...id prefer not taking the thread up with details on some shit i cant bet tho so pm me...

[groovybrandone]

what book are you on jinx?

[groovybrandone]

i have a work pickem (with spread) pool, and i took the bills cause titans just looked like absolute shit all year even vs a steelers banged up d with 10th stringers filling in

[jinxpro13]

what book are you on jinx?

sportsbook

[2daBank]

i would like to talk zona/min next....

to me min-6 is a decent play, i could hear folks telling me min hasnt really proven to be worthy of a spread this high as of yet and not sure i could argue but lets be real about this zona team, they had a very good ats run going back to last year and there was value there, dont believe this is the case any longer as their last 2 lines certainly were adjusted as we cashed with stl and buf against them..zona oline is fukkin miserable, they just made a bills d that no one even knew existed look good, id prob feel better if kolb was playing as i know he holds the ball to damn long (have to go back and look at skelton, hopefully i can find some tape),,lets just say either way i feel much better about min defense against this team than i did against rg3...zona can be run on, they have lost the rushing battle in 4 of their 6 gms and id expect more of the same here, stl came out after halftime and dominated zona at the point of attack which set up a big play later on (zona pass d good but they do give up almost 12 yards per completion)...dogs have owned the nfc so that kinda scary but i see a gm where min imposes their will up front on both sides of the ball.....

[jinxpro13]

i would like to talk zona/min next....

to me min-6 is a decent play, i could hear folks telling me min hasnt really proven to be worthy of a spread this high as of yet and not sure i could argue but lets be real about this zona team, they had a very good ats run going back to last year and there was value there, dont believe this is the case any longer as their last 2 lines certainly were adjusted as we cashed with stl and buf against them..zona oline is fukkin miserable, they just made a bills d that no one even knew existed look good, id prob feel better if kolb was playing as i know he holds the ball to damn long (have to go back and look at skelton, hopefully i can find some tape),,lets just say either way i feel much better about min defense against this team than i did against rg3...zona can be run on, they have lost the rushing battle in 4 of their 6 gms and id expect more of the same here, stl came out after halftime and dominated zona at the point of attack which set up a big play later on (zona pass d good but they do give up almost 12 yards per completion)...dogs have owned the nfc so that kinda scary but i see a gm where min imposes their will up front on both sides of the ball.....

yup i started out the week all over minnesota.. but explain to me how the f*ck arizona beat new england.. i didnt watch much of that game and it scares me. did new england just shit the bed or does 'zona have the potential to beat good teams on their good days? im not so sure. i know minnesota plays great in the trenches and 'zona is one of the worst in the nfl on the line.

if minnesota shits the bed for some reason I think they still have a good shot to win the game. ill prob be taking minnesota here.. may pussy out and just go with ML.

[jinxpro13]

lets talk saints and bucs baby. think im gonna tease the bucs here. tampa is viewed by some as one of the worst teams in the league and i think thats very far from true. im no freeman fanboy, but watching the bucs with vincent jackson makes them a completely different and improved offense in my opinion. i see them getting first downs and touchdowns they would never get last year. theyve been competitive in every single game this season. the saints will do what theyve been doing all season. good offense with shitty defense. no way they shut down the bucs. classic division game with RLM i think itll be close. tease the bucs with me

time for some madden football on sirius. love that shit.

[2daBank]

yup i started out the week all over minnesota.. but explain to me how the f*ck arizona beat new england.. i didnt watch much of that game and it scares me. did new england just shit the bed or does 'zona have the potential to beat good teams on their good days? im not so sure. i know minnesota plays great in the trenches and 'zona is one of the worst in the nfl on the line.

if minnesota shits the bed for some reason I think they still have a good shot to win the game. ill prob be taking minnesota here.. may pussy out and just go with ML.

i simply cant ml favs in nfl,,,if they dont cover fukk it live to fight but i cant lay juice when 1st off spread effects outcome like what? less than 20% of time i believe and 2 it freaking nfl i rather be on plus side or lay the points....

didnt watch the zona/pats gm but pats had a 25-16 1st down edge, won turnover battle, and should have kicked a winning fg (thanx to a terrible zona turnover), ne played not to lose from the little i saw and that typically get you beat, i have a hard time taking a lot of meaning out of that gm..

[2daBank]

lets talk saints and bucs baby. think im gonna tease the bucs here. tampa is viewed by some as one of the worst teams in the league and i think thats very far from true. im no freeman fanboy, but watching the bucs with vincent jackson makes them a completely different and improved offense in my opinion. i see them getting first downs and touchdowns they would never get last year. theyve been competitive in every single game this season. the saints will do what theyve been doing all season. good offense with shitty defense. no way they shut down the bucs. classic division game with RLM i think itll be close. tease the bucs with me

time for some madden football on sirius. love that shit.

you know i been praising how improved i thought bucs would be since day 1,,,you also know how little respect i have for aints defense and their Dcord (dipshit former rams coach steve spagnola, clown),,i see lot of ppl acting like it a must win for aints playoff chances, i got news for them aints aint making playoffs! they be 0-5 if it wasnt for chargers ability to blow winnable gms and the refs who put their mark all over that gm.. bucs offense should run and pass all over these assholes, vjax drawing coverage has got williams back on track (poor guy been sitting on my bench all yr, my teams stacked at wr) , i do like bucs teased, i kinda like bucs ml to be honest.... i have the new madden but just havnt had the time this yr (over winter ill be back in madden beast mode, i play on ps3, was somewhat the man on ps2 way back in the day! lol)..

[groovybrandone]

if i remember right, pats redzone offense was horrific. i think they had 4 fgs? they just looked bad and i dont know if thats credit to arizona. pats still dont all that great offensively.

[suicidekings]

staying far, far away from this game. buffalo @ home can be dangerous. titans more bi polar than my gf. one of those coin-toss games id rather watch from afar. however, if you guys are on the titans i will go with them in my pools. hardest game to cap on sunday in my opinion.

With bipolar behaviour, it's all about recognizing when they're going up or down.

The Buffalo DL is already ravaged with injuries such that they let Arizona run for 182 on the weekend. Over the course of the season, they've allowed opponents to gain 5.8ypc. In their last three games, they got completely stomped by the Patriots and Niners, and then won in Arizona on the strength of an OT interception. They're out of gas, and desperately want to get into their bye week.

The Titans are one of the healthier teams in the NFL right now, coming off a huge confidence boosting win. I think Chris Johnson looked more confident last week than he has all season and is ready to return to form. One of their biggest issues this season has been that their offensive play calling was slanted too heavily to the passing game (67% passing plays). This is such a perfect spot for CJ to have a big game (he's been solid in 2 of his last 3), attacking Buffalo where they're weak, and just wearing them out over the course of the game, knowing that they don't have a lot left in the tank. Hasselback did a good job against PIT in distributing among his receivers, and I like that he's starting in this game.

Two teams going in opposite directions, IMO.

[jinxpro13]

you know i been praising how improved i thought bucs would be since day 1,,,you also know how little respect i have for aints defense and their Dcord (dipshit former rams coach steve spagnola, clown),,i see lot of ppl acting like it a must win for aints playoff chances, i got news for them aints aint making playoffs! they be 0-5 if it wasnt for chargers ability to blow winnable gms and the refs who put their mark all over that gm.. bucs offense should run and pass all over these assholes, vjax drawing coverage has got williams back on track (poor guy been sitting on my bench all yr, my teams stacked at wr) , i do like bucs teased, i kinda like bucs ml to be honest.... i have the new madden but just havnt had the time this yr (over winter ill be back in madden beast mode, i play on ps3, was somewhat the man on ps2 way back in the day! lol)..

madden does an hour show on sirius radio wednesdays 2 - 3 love gettin some kush and listening to that shit.. do it every week. dude is old as the mona lisa but knows his football

[2daBank]

if i remember right, pats redzone offense was horrific. i think they had 4 fgs? they just looked bad and i dont know if thats credit to arizona. pats still dont all that great offensively.

1 for 3 converting in red zone i believe in that gm... pats offense has potential to be awesome with the way they can pound the rock but they still a team w some identity problems i think,,,if it was me you would get heavy dose of ridley and welker/hernandez on 3rd down all day every day,,but mcnugget (mcdaniel is kinda a asshole and doesnt always scheme to his personnel, watched this moron try and run 5 wide sets in stl last years when stl couldnt block and didnt even have 5 competent wrs, lol).... all that said i think pats steamroll jets with run gm this week....

[2daBank]

madden does an hour show on sirius radio wednesdays 2 - 3 love gettin some kush and listening to that shit.. do it every week. dude is old as the mona lisa but knows his football

ahh no shit,,,madden has show,,when i hear madden these days i instantly think video gm,,lol

[2daBank]

With bipolar behaviour, it's all about recognizing when they're going up or down.

The Buffalo DL is already ravaged with injuries such that they let Arizona run for 182 on the weekend. Over the course of the season, they've allowed opponents to gain 5.8ypc. In their last three games, they got completely stomped by the Patriots and Niners, and then won in Arizona on the strength of an OT interception. They're out of gas, and desperately want to get into their bye week.

The Titans are one of the healthier teams in the NFL right now, coming off a huge confidence boosting win. I think Chris Johnson looked more confident last week than he has all season and is ready to return to form. One of their biggest issues this season has been that their offensive play calling was slanted too heavily to the passing game (67% passing plays). This is such a perfect spot for CJ to have a big game (he's been solid in 2 of his last 3), attacking Buffalo where they're weak, and just wearing them out over the course of the game, knowing that they don't have a lot left in the tank. Hasselback did a good job against PIT in distributing among his receivers, and I like that he's starting in this game.

Two teams going in opposite directions, IMO.

cant argue with any of that..you got ten on my list 4sure...

[suicidekings]

you know i been praising how improved i thought bucs would be since day 1,,,you also know how little respect i have for aints defense and their Dcord (dipshit former rams coach steve spagnola, clown),,i see lot of ppl acting like it a must win for aints playoff chances, i got news for them aints aint making playoffs! they be 0-5 if it wasnt for chargers ability to blow winnable gms and the refs who put their mark all over that gm.. bucs offense should run and pass all over these assholes, vjax drawing coverage has got williams back on track (poor guy been sitting on my bench all yr, my teams stacked at wr) , i do like bucs teased, i kinda like bucs ml to be honest.... i have the new madden but just havnt had the time this yr (over winter ill be back in madden beast mode, i play on ps3, was somewhat the man on ps2 way back in the day! lol)..

Waiting to see if Vilma plays here. I think his presence on the field would be huge for the Saints defense, and from all reports he's been working hard in both his rehab and in familiarizing himself with Spagnuolo's system to be game-ready when he came off the PUP list. His first full practice is today, so we'll know more soon.

[2daBank]

Waiting to see if Vilma plays here. I think his presence on the field would be huge for the Saints defense, and from all reports he's been working hard in both his rehab and in familiarizing himself with Spagnuolo's system to be game-ready when he came off the PUP list. His first full practice is today, so we'll know more soon.

im assuming he will play,,just not sure after being out all year how much a impact he makes w/o being up to gm speed, obviously he will be huge emotional boost but is he really that much better than loften? i know ive heard there a big divide in staff/locker room over this.. even lets say he goes and plays well, can he mask all their issues?