The 2012 NFL with John Ryan

[Big G Vinny]

John- Great pick on the Giants last night.

All- I did pick up a three day package from John on his paid plays to see if there was a difference between his picks here and what he gave his paid customers. He went 4-0-1 yesterday with this 25* paid plays (none of which were given here). Great start, I will let you know his record throughout the package.

BOL to all.

[suitor]

Are you a friend of his he paid to write that? LOL

[suitor]

Are you a friend of his he paid to write that? LOL

If he had winning picks, why not tease us with a few of them/wk on this forum? Is he simply putting the opposite of his paid picks on this forum?

[Big G Vinny]

I don't know him, and we are not friends. I have been following him for almost a year now and didn't realized he had paid picks. I get sick of people ripping him on here when he does poorly, and then jump on the bandwagon when he has a good week. Lots of Monday morning quarterbacking...

I'm not sure why he doesn't tease people with his picks Suitor, you would have to ask him. It might have something to do with the fact that he wrote for SBR.

He has a few 25* picks tonight, only one in NFL. I will let you know how it turns out. He has been pretty hot in NBA apparently.

[Big G Vinny]

And no, he is not just putting the opposite of his picks on here. He has 25* picks and lower rated. The lower rated are the same as what he has on here. He also has other sports as well.

[John Ryan]

I did some research and the following is quite enlightening.
This season is quite disappointing to say the least, but making a disrespectful outrage for the firing of the franchise's highest win totals coach may be asking for things to get even worse.

Lambeau was fired as the Packers coach and his successor was Svare, His record before getting the axe was 7-17-2! Remember Fox of the Panthers, who took the Panthers to the Super Bowl? Well he was fired too as the winningest coach in franchise history. His successor was Rivera, who went a whopping 8-18 befor ehe got the dismissal slip. Then there is Gillam, who is the franchise leader in wins for the Chargers. His successor was Ronzani and he went 14-31-1. Remember the legendary Hank Stram, how leeads the Chiefs in victories? Well, his successor went 11-24 before getting the axe. How about the impeccable Robinson, who leads the Rams in victories? His successor was Chuck Know, who went 15-33 and that was his second stint with the team! That should eliminate Ray Rhodes.

And everyone should know the name Holmgren, who is the franchise leader in wins in Seattle. Jim l. Mora was his successor and he went 5-11 in one season of job security. Then there is Mike Ditka, who had already established himself as the premiere coach in the NFl without a job. Well, he took over for Saints franchise leader Jim E. More, the father of aforementioned Jim L. Mora, and Ditka, despite all of isi success and experience went 15-33.

So, saying it is time to get rid of Ried may be the right move after 14 seasons, BUT this evidence may suggest more forethought should be exercised before just unloading on the head guy. The Head Coach must be held accountable, no doubt, but as my history lesson shows, Eagle fans cannot presume that simply by hiring a veteran coach, the Eagles will return to playoff contenders like magic.

Jon Gruden would be a fan favorite as a successor and he has a Super Bowl Championship on his resume. However, none of the aforementioned coaches, who took over for a fired franchise leader in wins EVER did well enough to even hold onto their job.

[John Ryan]

I already like the Packers, BUT I beleive the line will drop and you can work an order at 8 1/2 until Friday. See what happens here.

[alexknyc]

Week 12:

10* New England -7 WIN
10* Oakland +9 LOSS
10* Pittsburgh -2 LOSS
10* Atlanta/TB UNDER 52.5 WIN
20* NY Giants -2.5 WIN
3* Oakland/KC ML Parlay LOSS

Week 12: 3-3 +15 units

20* 4-6 -51 units
10* 21-21-1 -18.80 units
5* 13-12 -0.25 units
3* 0-9 -27.30 units

Total: 38-48-1 -97.35 units

[John Ryan]

10* OVER Saints-Flacons
10* OVER Saints-Falcons 1st half
10* OVER Saints-Falcons - 2nd half.

Track meet matchup. Matt Ryan should have a huge night.

[John Ryan]

I have 54 -110 for the game total
and 27 -110 for the first half.

second half line will be determined obviously.
Best of luck.

[Vasco]

John- Great pick on the Giants last night.

All- I did pick up a three day package from John on his paid plays to see if there was a difference between his picks here and what he gave his paid customers. He went 4-0-1 yesterday with this 25* paid plays (none of which were given here). Great start, I will let you know his record throughout the package.

BOL to all.

Fraud.

[Vasco]

Great business this guy has. Gives out a bunch of losing free picks and thinks people will be curious about the "paid" plays and give him money for those. LOL. Comical. A sucker is born every minute.

[John Ryan]

Great business this guy has. Gives out a bunch of losing free picks and thinks people will be curious about the "paid" plays and give him money for those. LOL. Comical. A sucker is born every minute.

I have been doing this for 18+ years so I take complete offense to your remarks that this is a 'solicitation' method to manipulate people. I am teaching here that it is called gambling for a reason. I am not an ATM machine and I have always emphasized the dangers of sports gambling if it is not done with tremendous focus and discipline. So, I encourage you to stick around. There is far more wealth to this thread than just the winning or losing of picks.

[Vasco]

No disrespect. I don't follow any of your picks, but I just don't get how you release hundreds of losing picks with analysis but you offer different picks that are winners through a "paid" service. Sounds fishy to me.

[Big G Vinny]

Vasco- Sorry to hear you think I am a fraud. I have no allegiance to John at all. I started following him here about a year ago. I played some of his picks and did well. I decided to try out his paid picks and he has done pretty well, especially in NFL and NBA. Two night ago he had a losing night, but other that that he has not had a losing night since I started with him. If he starts to lose, I just won't play anymore, but right now he is making me money and I enjoy his analysis. Feel free to IM me if you want more information.

[calmeat]

JOhn,
I always check out your thread it seems this year has been tough for you but your insight is great for other cappers to look at so thanks for that.

As for the Big Red comment we philly fans dont think a new coach will take us to the playoffs just like we know nick foles wasnt going to win us a superbowl this year. We need a change! tired of his robot comments after games if i hear "I have to put the players in a better position" i May go nuts. After 10 years of i guess not putting the players in the right spot to win games it has now gotten to the point that we dont want him here anymore. Not to mention is inability to make 2nd half adjustments and no clock management and terrible drafting i think we are all ready for the change. Not sure how many times the birds can gameplan and feed the other teams strengths instead of picking on their weaknesses. anyway keep on keepin on.

[Vasco]

Vasco- Sorry to hear you think I am a fraud. I have no allegiance to John at all. I started following him here about a year ago. I played some of his picks and did well. I decided to try out his paid picks and he has done pretty well, especially in NFL and NBA. Two night ago he had a losing night, but other that that he has not had a losing night since I started with him. If he starts to lose, I just won't play anymore, but right now he is making me money and I enjoy his analysis. Feel free to IM me if you want more information.

Thanks, but no thanks. Coming up with your own picks is more profitable.

[John Ryan]

10* Tennessee + 7 -105 over the Texans

20* San Francisco - 7 1/2 -110

I may have a pick for Sunday Night. Just very difficult to play on or against a completely dysfunctional Eagles team. More later.

[suitor]

10* Tennessee + 7 -105 over the Texans

20* San Francisco - 7 1/2 -110

I may have a pick for Sunday Night. Just very difficult to play on or against a completely dysfunctional Eagles team. More later.

Are these free losing bets or ones you would have confidence in and would put up on your paid picks?

[bull07]

Are these free losing bets or ones you would have confidence in and would put up on your paid picks?

if dont`s like it pick your own ? stop BS

[suitor]

if dont`s like it pick your own ? stop BS

Look, I was John's biggest fan last year but it seems now that he has these paid picks, he is deliberately throwing bad picks on this thread with the intention of having us pay for them now. I won't say more, but wanted to let you all know I am not a hater, just see the difference b/w this and last years picks.

[justwinthisone]

dont u guys think he would want to hit these so u want to pay for his picks? john puts a lot of effort into all the plays he puts out....whether they win or lose is a different story

[Big G Vinny]

Neither of those picks are part of his paid plays. He has 2 25* paid plays today and 1 10* pick. I will let you know how it goes. He had a bad day on Friday, but a great day yesterday. I haven't done an exact tally yet, but as of now (two weeks in) his package is up about 150 units, maybe a little more. BOL to all today.

[The Kraken]

When you claim to be a teacher and put plays out there for others to tail and then proceed to lose over 100 units, you deserve harsh criticism. Even if unfair at times.

[bull07]

Look, I was John's biggest fan last year but it seems now that he has these paid picks, he is deliberately throwing bad picks on this thread with the intention of having us pay for them now. I won't say more, but wanted to let you all know I am not a hater, just see the difference b/w this and last years picks.

my bad so will see about that my friend .i alway on the other side and keep winner .

[Deol]

How are you teaching? You're just giving out a reason for taking a particular play and hoping it hits? Wheres this so called "teaching" Post what you want but don't think your "teaching" anyone anything, you're either ignorant or just straight delusional. GL with your picks, maybe you should give out some of your "paid picks" if they are hitting so anyone who tailed you here could get some of there $$ back.

[njcardshark]

It hilarious how people on here can get mad at someone else for posting FREE picks. John is doing his homework, seeing what he thinks is an edge, and sharing it on open forum...FOR FREE! If it turns out that he is wrong, than find somebody else to tail...or better yet do your own homework. If you see someone is picking cold and you continue to lose money with them, you are the one who deserves the tongue-lashing not John

[John Ryan]

Look, I was John's biggest fan last year but it seems now that he has these paid picks, he is deliberately throwing bad picks on this thread with the intention of having us pay for them now. I won't say more, but wanted to let you all know I am not a hater, just see the difference b/w this and last years picks.

Just to clarify. I have been selling picks for 18 years. I provide the best I could last year and I am doing the same here as well.

[John Ryan]

10* Dallas -10 1/2

10* UNDER 45 -110

It is hard to bet on a team as one dimentional as Dallas has become and facing an Eagle team that I have hard time determining where the Eagles are right now. Is it packed in for the season?

Ware is going to go bull rush inside tonight where the greatest weakness is on the Eagle OL.

The Dallas running game ought to be in high gear tonight and that takes all of th epressure off of Roo to make plays.

[John Ryan]

Also, never assume that since a NFL team has lost six staright ga,mes ATS, they are DUE to win. This Eagle team deteriortaed far faster than anyone thought. It is hard to determine whether the public sentiment has overshot the poor play of the Eagles. 60% of the bets made are on the Eagles and that is a red flag for anyone thinking of any Eagle bet. The public rarely bets on double digit dogs.

[John Ryan]

I don't have any picks for tonight for the thread. I woiuld be interested in hear how some of you are viewing and betting this game?

[justwinthisone]

I don't have any picks for tonight for the thread. I woiuld be interested in hear how some of you are viewing and betting this game?

under....easy money

[rainman416]

Wouldn't call that easy money but I'm on it for sure.. Lot's of offensive potential here.. I'm thinking it will reach the mid 40's for sure.. just hope it doesn't pop over with a late TD .. last time they met total was 50.. now the gmen have seen RG3 and know more about him.. what works what doesn't etc. I don't see him putting up huge numbers tonight.

GL to the under.. on the G-men-2.5 too for a medium sized dose.

[justwinthisone]

Wouldn't call that easy money but I'm on it for sure.. Lot's of offensive potential here.. I'm thinking it will reach the mid 40's for sure.. just hope it doesn't pop over with a late TD .. last time they met total was 50.. now the gmen have seen RG3 and know more about him.. what works what doesn't etc. I don't see him putting up huge numbers tonight.

GL to the under.. on the G-men-2.5 too for a medium sized dose.

4 of last 5 giants skins game has been under...... line opened at 51 public been all on the over and line moves down......im not saying guaranteed money bc funny shit happens in any sporting event but i will take my luck on the same side as the book.....only thing i see ruining this is garbage td at end of game......good luck with whatever u take

[Pick'nParlays]

Giants won't cover