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  • Night-Tripper
    SBR MVP
    • 12-14-09
    • 3205

    #981
    Originally posted by Laissez Faire
    I feel the same way about this one..been watching it all evening
    Just played them @ +260/200 on ML and +7/495. I'm not quite as strict as y'all... I use 3,000/game.
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    • Night-Tripper
      SBR MVP
      • 12-14-09
      • 3205

      #982
      Originally posted by Night-Tripper
      All are base unless otherwise noted:
      Northeastern
      GWU
      Toledo
      St. Joseph's
      Duquesne
      Fordham
      Georgia Tech
      Rhode Island
      UNC Charlotte
      Illinois State
      Boise State
      Colorado State

      Pistons +195/200
      Pistons/495
      Raptors/495
      Adding Texas A&M +7/495
      Texas A&M +260/200
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      • Laissez Faire
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 01-31-12
        • 536

        #983
        night-Tripper...so you don't use the stipulation of 3000 on side of favorite...you just take the bet when there's 3000 combined wagers? That was one of my questions for the system actually, so I'm glad you brought up the notion
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        • Laissez Faire
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 01-31-12
          • 536

          #984
          7:00 plays look good through 1st half (rhode island +3.5, fordham +17.5, george washington +5.5, georgia tech +12, duquesne +4, northeastern +4, nc charlotte +9.5)..let's hope they keep playing well...the only game I'm concerned about is Toledo +13
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          • Night-Tripper
            SBR MVP
            • 12-14-09
            • 3205

            #985
            Originally posted by Laissez Faire
            night-Tripper...so you don't use the stipulation of 3000 on side of favorite...you just take the bet when there's 3000 combined wagers? That was one of my questions for the system actually, so I'm glad you brought up the notion
            Yep... I just want a minmum of 3,000 bets total.

            For football... it's a 10,000 bet minimum.
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            • detroitigerz
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 01-19-12
              • 865

              #986
              Originally posted by R19
              The jury is still out because we don't have enough data. In the financial world there is software that could go back forever on tick/intra-minute data on analyze the impact of changing parameters. If we could have something like that here (automated), we could have already gone back to the start of the season AND past seasons and learned a lot.
              Yeah that's exactly what we need... you should get started on tracking back to the beginning of the season R19!
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              • Laissez Faire
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 01-31-12
                • 536

                #987
                well Northeastern, NC Charlotte, & Fordham (so close) are Losses...hoping Rhode Island, Toledo, & Duquesne finish strong

                also hoping Illinois St has one hell of a 2nd half haha (down by 21 at halftime)


                UPDATE: just saw that Duquesne covered and actually won the game...did anyone take them on ML?

                so far, 1-3 tonight...w/ Rhode Island (in overtime), Illinois St, Toledo, Boise St, & Colorado St games pending
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                • ToPHeR
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-06-11
                  • 1326

                  #988
                  **** u Toldeo
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                  • Laissez Faire
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 01-31-12
                    • 536

                    #989
                    Originally posted by ToPHeR
                    **** u Toldeo
                    my sentiments indeed...feel same way about the Fordham game (+17.5 and they lose by 18)
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                    • Laissez Faire
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 01-31-12
                      • 536

                      #990
                      Originally posted by Night-Tripper
                      Yep... I just want a minmum of 3,000 bets total.

                      For football... it's a 10,000 bet minimum.
                      gotchu
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                      • crockje
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 01-03-11
                        • 384

                        #991
                        Originally posted by Laissez Faire
                        7:00 plays look good through 1st half (rhode island +3.5, fordham +17.5, george washington +5.5, georgia tech +12, duquesne +4, northeastern +4, nc charlotte +9.5)..let's hope they keep playing well...the only game I'm concerned about is Toledo +13
                        damn u you jinxed them lol. Never post until game is over
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                        • detroitigerz
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 01-19-12
                          • 865

                          #992
                          Originally posted by detroitigerz
                          I could be having a brain fart but this doesn't look like it works to me... mav's getting .5 is helping them in the spread. whereas it's supposed to be hurting them, aka going to I would have liked it if it went to -2. but ive had a super long day full of geomatics numbers haha so I could be mistaken.

                          Also, with all of the RLM games tonight the only thats fitting my parameters right now
                          1.) >63%
                          2.) min 3000 bets
                          3.) at least .5 line movement
                          4.) spread equal to or under 7.5
                          5.) comparing the two teams stats.... posessions * points when on offense
                          points allowed
                          effective field goal percentages
                          true shooting percentages
                          etc....

                          is duquesne +4 WINNER

                          should note that step 5 ruled out the
                          -rhode island vs massachusetts WINNER
                          -northeastern vs drexel (not by much) LOSER
                          -xavier vs george washington (not by much) WINNER even though line DID jump back to static at last minute =(

                          .... just throwin this out there im 1-0 for the evening and if I would have played all the games suggested (just skipping section 5) I would have been 3-1
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                          • R19
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 10-31-11
                            • 433

                            #993
                            Originally posted by R19
                            The jury is still out because we don't have enough data. In the financial world there is software that could go back forever on tick/intra-minute data on analyze the impact of changing parameters. If we could have something like that here (automated), we could have already gone back to the start of the season AND past seasons and learned a lot.
                            To clarify, 'The jury is still out', right now we have several derivatives of the RLM Strategy that Night-Tripper outlined that are working. I think a huge part of untapped upside in addition to refining the approach is halves, money lines, parlays, teasers, etc. that he and many are playing.
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                            • detroitigerz
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 01-19-12
                              • 865

                              #994
                              I'd be interested in hearing more about this night tripper strategy of betting in game, money lines and such. I saw it written by a few of you that this was a good strategy but I'm unsure of what how or when this applies... is it in this thread somewhere?
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                              • R19
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 10-31-11
                                • 433

                                #995
                                Originally posted by detroitigerz
                                I'd be interested in hearing more about this night tripper strategy of betting in game, money lines and such. I saw it written by a few of you that this was a good strategy but I'm unsure of what how or when this applies... is it in this thread somewhere?
                                It's a way to make the play more aggressively. There is mention by some throughout the thread when they make the plays. More advanced plays.
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                                • Laissez Faire
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 01-31-12
                                  • 536

                                  #996
                                  Originally posted by crockje
                                  damn u you jinxed them lol. Never post until game is over
                                  will not make the same mistake twice....sorry crockje
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                                  • Night-Tripper
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-14-09
                                    • 3205

                                    #997
                                    Not a RLM play... but I just placed a base bet on the Clippers -2.5 and am hoping to get the opportunity to play them on the Live Line should they manage to get down by 5 -> 9 going into a break.
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                                    • southpaw74
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 12-21-09
                                      • 7104

                                      #998
                                      FYI...San diego state should have a juicy middle opportunity if anyone wishes to take it.
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                                      • K-Rice
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 01-14-12
                                        • 24

                                        #999
                                        Originally posted by Night-Tripper
                                        Adding Texas A&M +7/495
                                        Texas A&M +260/200
                                        ooo so close on the upset.. good call on A&M
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                                        • garnetandblack
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 10-23-09
                                          • 42

                                          #1000
                                          Originally posted by southpaw74
                                          FYI...San diego state should have a juicy middle opportunity if anyone wishes to take it.
                                          -11?
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                                          • southpaw74
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 12-21-09
                                            • 7104

                                            #1001
                                            I have -10.5 at bet islands. That means they can win by between 3 and 11 and I win both. I got them at +11.5 for the game with the free half point. Depending on how much I like it I'll bet between half and 3/4 of my original bet.
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                                            • southpaw74
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 12-21-09
                                              • 7104

                                              #1002
                                              Down to -10 now...that concerns me a bit.
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                                              • grizzy
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 09-18-11
                                                • 209

                                                #1003
                                                Originally posted by southpaw74
                                                FYI...San diego state should have a juicy middle opportunity if anyone wishes to take it.
                                                Yeah -10 @ Pinny...might just lay off. I was hoping UNLV and Colorado State was close at half so I can take UNLV for the 2nd but that never materialized either.
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                                                • southpaw74
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 12-21-09
                                                  • 7104

                                                  #1004
                                                  Originally posted by grizzy
                                                  Yeah -10 @ Pinny...might just lay off.
                                                  Just smaller...it's a nice size middle butnI don't know why it went down.
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                                                  • detroitigerz
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 01-19-12
                                                    • 865

                                                    #1005
                                                    btw southpaw, effin love your avatar caddyshack is my all time favorite.
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                                                    • R19
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 10-31-11
                                                      • 433

                                                      #1006
                                                      Good to clip a solid day after Monday and a quiet Tuesday.
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                                                      • southpaw74
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 12-21-09
                                                        • 7104

                                                        #1007
                                                        Originally posted by detroitigerz
                                                        btw southpaw, effin love your avatar caddyshack is my all time favorite.
                                                        Thanks, I play a lot of sports but went to college for golf. At least it's something I can do until I'm old. The shoulder is shot from baseball.
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                                                        • southpaw74
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 12-21-09
                                                          • 7104

                                                          #1008
                                                          Well the middle was a push for San Diego because they missed the final free throw.
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                                                          • wiseguy007
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 01-20-12
                                                            • 444

                                                            #1009
                                                            RECORD UPDATE:

                                                            NCAAB

                                                            7:00pm 733 Fordham Rams OPEN +19.5 NOW +17.5 L

                                                            7:00pm 736 Rhode Island Rams OPEN +4 NOW +3.5 W

                                                            7:00pm 738 George Washington Colonials OPEN +6 NOW +5.5 W

                                                            7:00pm 739 Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets OPEN +14.5 NOW +12.5 L

                                                            7:00pm 741 Duquesne Dukes OPEN +5 NOW +4 W

                                                            7:00pm 744 Northeastern Huskies open +5 now +4 L

                                                            7:00pm 751 NC Charlotte 49ers OPEN +10.5 NOW +9.5 L

                                                            7:00pm 755 Toledo Rockets OPEN +14.5 NOW +12.5 L

                                                            8:00pm 779 Illinois State Redbirds OPEN +12 NOW +10.5 L

                                                            10:15pm 799 Boise State Broncos OPEN +13 NOW +11 W

                                                            10:30pm 801 Colorado State Rams OPEN +15 NOW +14.5 L



                                                            NBA

                                                            7:35pm 705 Toronto Raptors OPEN +9.5 NOW +8.5 L

                                                            7:35pm 707 Detroit Pistons OPEN +6.5 NOW +6 W


                                                            RECORD FOR 2/1/12: 5-8


                                                            YTD: 53-38-1 58%
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                                                            • Automoto
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 01-09-12
                                                              • 252

                                                              #1010
                                                              There are so many .5 to 1 point games in following RLM's!!!!
                                                              I'm going to have a heart attack watching these games!
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                                                              • staf
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 11-11-07
                                                                • 2521

                                                                #1011
                                                                Have punched the spreads into my spreadsheet and added a calculator to test detroitigerz maximum spread and minimum line movement filters.

                                                                I'm getting a maximum spread of 8 as ideal, and the one day that static line movement was posted they went 2-1 using a maximum spread of 8.
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                                                                • R19
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 10-31-11
                                                                  • 433

                                                                  #1012
                                                                  Originally posted by detroitigerz
                                                                  Yeah that's exactly what we need... you should get started on tracking back to the beginning of the season R19!
                                                                  It can be done. I think Free Sports has the historical data and Scores and Odds has decent data as well.
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                                                                  • R19
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 10-31-11
                                                                    • 433

                                                                    #1013
                                                                    Originally posted by staf
                                                                    Have punched the spreads into my spreadsheet and added a calculator to test detroitigerz maximum spread and minimum line movement filters.

                                                                    I'm getting a maximum spread of 8 as ideal, and the one day that static line movement was posted they went 2-1 using a maximum spread of 8.
                                                                    I am starting to think that there is an approach in the high spread games that can be counter bet although with higher risk. For now I will max 8 and focus on tracking the possibility of counter betting, and thinking about aggressive plays on the basic RLM System such as halves, money lines, parlays, and teasers as several are doing.

                                                                    Keep in mind that the Mighty Quinn hot streak has been built of taking favorites in high spread games of smaller schools.


                                                                    *** There are variations to the original RLM System as outlined on Page 1 going. ***

                                                                    - Play if > 63% or allow some 61%, 62%, etc.
                                                                    - Static and Reverse Line Movement or Reverse Line Movement of 0.5 or greater
                                                                    - 3,000 Total Plays or at least one team with 3,000 plays
                                                                    - All spreads or set a maximum spread
                                                                    - Flat bet all games or flat bet with halves, money lines, parlays, etc. on a discretionary basis.
                                                                    - Adjusting bet size depending on the 'strength' of the above parameters.
                                                                    - Adding a discretionary capping approach or mixing with another system.

                                                                    Lots to think about. For now, I have a few adjustments and running with those.
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                                                                    • detroitigerz
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 01-19-12
                                                                      • 865

                                                                      #1014
                                                                      Originally posted by staf
                                                                      Have punched the spreads into my spreadsheet and added a calculator to test detroitigerz maximum spread and minimum line movement filters. I'm getting a maximum spread of 8 as ideal, and the one day that static line movement was posted they went 2-1 using a maximum spread of 8.
                                                                      Little bit hard for me to follow, but going to go over your spreadsheet... your numbers seem way different than mine at my first glance for instance... 27-9 in games <=8 with .5 movement or greater is way different than what I got.

                                                                      Also I know it's early but has anyone else noticed that every single nba game today so far is considered an RLM? wtf? oh sorry except for one of them because theres not enough bets yet but im sure there will be by game time.
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                                                                      • Laissez Faire
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 01-31-12
                                                                        • 536

                                                                        #1015
                                                                        Originally posted by R19
                                                                        I am starting to think that there is an approach in the high spread games that can be counter bet although with higher risk. For now I will max 8 and focus on tracking the possibility of counter betting, and thinking about aggressive plays on the basic RLM System such as halves, money lines, parlays, and teasers as several are doing.

                                                                        Keep in mind that the Mighty Quinn hot streak has been built of taking favorites in high spread games of smaller schools.


                                                                        *** There are variations to the original RLM System as outlined on Page 1 going. ***

                                                                        - Play if > 63% or allow some 61%, 62%, etc.
                                                                        - Static and Reverse Line Movement or Reverse Line Movement of 0.5 or greater
                                                                        - 3,000 Total Plays or at least one team with 3,000 plays
                                                                        - All spreads or set a maximum spread
                                                                        - Flat bet all games or flat bet with halves, money lines, parlays, etc. on a discretionary basis.
                                                                        - Adjusting bet size depending on the 'strength' of the above parameters.
                                                                        - Adding a discretionary capping approach or mixing with another system.

                                                                        Lots to think about. For now, I have a few adjustments and running with those.
                                                                        thanks for reposting this...I'm leaning towards capping some of the games using another system that did pretty well for me last year....last night, I probably wouldn't have taken Fordham, NC Charlotte, or Illinois State...but I wanted to follow the system fully to track results...I am still very impressed with how the system operates...especially since Toledo, Tech, & Fordham could have been covers last night.


                                                                        just a sidenote...I grew up in Alabama so obivously I'm a Roll Tide Fan (have been one way before we started becoming relevant again nationally)...yesterday was signing day, and I'm sure you all know who has the #1 class (good job Saban). I know a lot of people hate on SEC football and what not....but you have to take it from someone who lived there for many many years...all that the south has is football....i have cousins who lost their homes in the tornado in Tuscaloosa last year. This past football season has truly helped rebuild the town, to say the least. In other parts of the country, you guys can argue about pro baseball, basketball, football, hockey, etc...the only thing that people in Alabama talk about is college football. So, yeah some people hate on the SEC, but Saturdays during the fall and winter in that area will be remembered forever because that was the only time that all people, regardless of race, would come together (I grew up in Montgomery, AL...Rosa parks, MLK, march to Selma, basically enough racial history to fill a book haha). I know that was off topic but I am just glad to see that program back on top because I know how much it means to the area


                                                                        Looking forward to a good night tonight!
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