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  • BOA12
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-19-12
    • 20622

    #281
    Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
    Thanks guys. Even if I don’t respond to every post or every point donation, I appreciate them. I see the views creeping up on the thread, which is nice, but it’s always nice to have people comment or donate.

    You will be judged on how many donate. HGUY looking good.
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    • HeeluvaGuy
      SBR MVP
      • 02-15-14
      • 3449

      #282
      Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
      1/9

      7:00

      Detroit/Cleveland St o142.5
      Edwardsville/Morehead St o137.5


      1-1 -.1u
      YTD: 71-51 +15.73u
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      • HeeluvaGuy
        SBR MVP
        • 02-15-14
        • 3449

        #283
        1/10

        7:00

        Niagara/Quinnipiac o146

        Not much to choose from today. I already have my numbers for Saturday up on the spreadsheet, but lines obviously aren’t out yet.

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        • HeeluvaGuy
          SBR MVP
          • 02-15-14
          • 3449

          #284
          Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
          1/10

          7:00

          Niagara/Quinnipiac o146


          0-1 -1.1u
          YTD: 71-52 +14.63u
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          • HeeluvaGuy
            SBR MVP
            • 02-15-14
            • 3449

            #285
            1/11

            12:00
            Alabama/Kentucky u153

            2:00
            Creighton/Xavier u143

            2:15
            Wisconsin/Penn St u135

            4:00
            Old Dominion/Charlotte o115
            UNC Wilmington/Elon o136
            Morgan St/Florida A&M o139
            Norfolk St/Howard o137

            6:30
            Jackson St/Alcorn St o138

            8:00
            Oklahoma/Iowa St u150.5
            Chicago St/UTRGV o146

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            • BagelBoy
              SBR Rookie
              • 12-19-19
              • 20

              #286
              OMG Creighton game almost lost 120 Total with 50 seconds left. 10 point game...Unreal.
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              • HeeluvaGuy
                SBR MVP
                • 02-15-14
                • 3449

                #287
                Originally posted by BagelBoy
                OMG Creighton game almost lost 120 Total with 50 seconds left. 10 point game...Unreal.
                22 points in the last 52 seconds in a 12 point game. Absurd, but a win.

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                • HeeluvaGuy
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-15-14
                  • 3449

                  #288
                  Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                  1/11

                  12:00
                  Alabama/Kentucky u153

                  2:00
                  Creighton/Xavier u143

                  2:15
                  Wisconsin/Penn St u135

                  4:00
                  Old Dominion/Charlotte o115
                  UNC Wilmington/Elon o136
                  Morgan St/Florida A&M o139
                  Norfolk St/Howard o137

                  6:30
                  Jackson St/Alcorn St o138

                  8:00
                  Oklahoma/Iowa St u150.5
                  Chicago St/UTRGV o146

                  8-2 +5.8u
                  YTD: 79-54 +19.83u

                  Probably won't have lines or picks up for Sunday until late morning.
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                  • Mackballs
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 12-01-16
                    • 5810

                    #289
                    Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                    8-2 +5.8u
                    YTD: 79-54 +19.83u

                    Probably won't have lines or picks up for Sunday until late morning.
                    Tremendous work
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                    • bigbluemist
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 04-06-11
                      • 121

                      #290
                      Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                      8-2 +5.8u
                      YTD: 79-54 +19.83u

                      Probably won't have lines or picks up for Sunday until late morning.
                      Wow, what a day man. You’re on 🔥🔥
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                      • doubledime
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 04-22-09
                        • 9751

                        #291
                        Well done Sir
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                        • HeeluvaGuy
                          SBR MVP
                          • 02-15-14
                          • 3449

                          #292
                          Originally posted by Mackballs
                          Tremendous work
                          Originally posted by bigbluemist
                          Wow, what a day man. You’re on 
                          Originally posted by doubledime
                          Well done Sir
                          Thanks guys. Had a couple of close calls, but things worked out. Much better than the days when those close calls break the other way.
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                          • HeeluvaGuy
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-15-14
                            • 3449

                            #293
                            1/12

                            Noon

                            Mich St/Purdue u136

                            2:00

                            Siena/Manhattan o130

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                            • loveofsports
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 07-11-15
                              • 199

                              #294
                              Pmd you
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                              • HeeluvaGuy
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-15-14
                                • 3449

                                #295
                                Really appreciate all of the kind words here and in PMs. Yesterday was pretty incredible for the model. The 10+ differential totals ended up 26-11, and I’m very happy that my picks were able to beat that on a percentage basis.

                                I don’t say this to brag, however. Rather, I want to remind everyone to use caution. The season is going really well, but we all know that it’s probably not realistic to run 60% all season. I’ll do my best, but I think we need to be prepared for some hiccups.

                                BOL today to all!

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                                • bigbluemist
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 04-06-11
                                  • 121

                                  #296
                                  GL today!
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                                  • HeeluvaGuy
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-15-14
                                    • 3449

                                    #297
                                    Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                    1/12

                                    Noon

                                    Mich St/Purdue u136

                                    2:00

                                    Siena/Manhattan o130

                                    2-0 +2u
                                    81-54 +21.83u
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                                    • HeeluvaGuy
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-15-14
                                      • 3449

                                      #298
                                      I'm not really an NFL guy, but I dabble in props. There's pretty good value on Russell Wilson to throw an interception (+140). It's rotation #6707.
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                                      • steel26
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 11-14-12
                                        • 53

                                        #299
                                        How do you Calculate the pace
                                        Last edited by steel26; 01-12-20, 06:34 PM.
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                                        • HeeluvaGuy
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-15-14
                                          • 3449

                                          #300
                                          Originally posted by steel26
                                          How do you Calculate the pace

                                          Basically look at how each team's possessions per game compares to the Division I average. Then I have a multiplier that I use to take out an observed bias. Not part of the model numbers, but I also look at average offensive and defensive possession lengths as a bit of a cross check.

                                          The model predicted possessions is not perfect and doesn't account for every possible input, but it's pretty accurate. I try to pick up the other variables when I do my secondary analysis.

                                          Thanks for stopping by.
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                                          • BetThenSweat
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-24-14
                                            • 2978

                                            #301
                                            Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                            Basically look at how each team's possessions per game compares to the Division I average. Then I have a multiplier that I use to take out an observed bias. Not part of the model numbers, but I also look at average offensive and defensive possession lengths
                                            The model predicted possessions is not perfect and doesn't account for every possible input, but it's pretty accurate. I try to pick up the other variables when I do my secondary analysis.

                                            Thanks for stopping by.
                                            What does your model show for Arizona/Oregon State
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                                            • loveofsports
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 07-11-15
                                              • 199

                                              #302
                                              Originally posted by BetThenSweat
                                              What does your model show for Arizona/Oregon State

                                              It can be found here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1365386493


                                              But, Project total is 132.9
                                              Prject poss 70.8
                                              Projected score Arizona 66.3- Oregon State 66.6
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                                              • BetThenSweat
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-24-14
                                                • 2978

                                                #303
                                                Originally posted by loveofsports
                                                It can be found here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1365386493


                                                But, Project total is 132.9
                                                Prject poss 70.8
                                                Projected score Arizona 66.3- Oregon State 66.6
                                                Thank you
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                                                • loveofsports
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 07-11-15
                                                  • 199

                                                  #304
                                                  Originally posted by BetThenSweat
                                                  Thank you
                                                  Pleasure man nice to see you around. Hope you bring some more NBA plays!
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                                                  • HeeluvaGuy
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-15-14
                                                    • 3449

                                                    #305
                                                    1/13

                                                    7:30

                                                    South Carolina St/Howard o146

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                                                    • BagelBoy
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 12-19-19
                                                      • 20

                                                      #306
                                                      Great work this week - thank you for the plays - Keep it up - Cheers.
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                                                      • HeeluvaGuy
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-15-14
                                                        • 3449

                                                        #307
                                                        Originally posted by BagelBoy
                                                        Great work this week - thank you for the plays - Keep it up - Cheers.
                                                        Thanks. I’ll keep plugging away, but it’s going to be tough to duplicate the last week.

                                                        Your post prompted me to look back and see what December looked like versus January. I like the way Ayo does that in his thread, so I’m going to try to copy him. Keep me honest if I screw it up.

                                                        YTD: 81-54 +21.83u
                                                        Jan: 29-16 +10.9u
                                                        Dec: 52-38 +10.93u
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                                                        • BOA12
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 02-19-12
                                                          • 20622

                                                          #308
                                                          Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                                          Thanks. I’ll keep plugging away, but it’s going to be tough to duplicate the last week.

                                                          Your post prompted me to look back and see what December looked like versus January. I like the way Ayo does that in his thread, so I’m going to try to copy him. Keep me honest if I screw it up.

                                                          YTD: 81-54 +21.83u
                                                          Jan: 29-16 +10.9u
                                                          Dec: 52-38 +10.93u
                                                          2 point post. And toast.
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                                                          • cmatth1326
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 11-18-08
                                                            • 761

                                                            #309
                                                            Dang sportsbook doesn’t have that total.
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                                                            • HeeluvaGuy
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-15-14
                                                              • 3449

                                                              #310
                                                              Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                                              1/13

                                                              7:30

                                                              South Carolina St/Howard o146

                                                              1-0 +1u
                                                              YTD: 82-54 +22.83u
                                                              Jan: 30-16 +11.9u
                                                              Dec: 52-38 +10.93u
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                                                              • coolguy73739
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-11-16
                                                                • 1677

                                                                #311
                                                                Are you taking League average of all 353 teams for your calculation or individual team's conference average?
                                                                Thanks in advance..
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                                                                • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 02-15-14
                                                                  • 3449

                                                                  #312
                                                                  Originally posted by coolguy73739
                                                                  Are you taking League average of all 353 teams for your calculation or individual team's conference average?
                                                                  Thanks in advance..
                                                                  I use the Division I average of all 353 teams. The idea is to figure out each team's pace (i.e., possessions per game) in relation to the average. Once you have that, you can determine if the game pace between any two teams will be above or below the pace of an average game.

                                                                  Pace is actually pretty predictable because coaches have preferred styles and they teach their teams to play that style. When you get complementary styles, it gets even more predictable. In other words, two fast teams will typically play a game well above the average number of possessions. It gets more difficult when you have a UNC vs. Virginia kind of matchup with contrasting styles. But the really hard part is trying to predict efficiencies...
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                                                                  • coolguy73739
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-11-16
                                                                    • 1677

                                                                    #313
                                                                    Thanks for your prompt reply. Really appreciate..
                                                                    One more thing..
                                                                    Do you take PACE ADJUSTED data in your calculations for Efficiency?
                                                                    PAce adjusted data differs from average..
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                                                                    • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-15-14
                                                                      • 3449

                                                                      #314
                                                                      Originally posted by coolguy73739
                                                                      Thanks for your prompt reply. Really appreciate..
                                                                      One more thing..
                                                                      Do you take PACE ADJUSTED data in your calculations for Efficiency?
                                                                      PAce adjusted data differs from average..
                                                                      Pace adjusted. I have used efficiencies for many years, but this is the first year that I have tried to predict where the scoring will come from (2, 3, or FT). I think that has helped a lot. Like with pace, if you have a team that gets to the FT line a lot playing a team that fouls a lot, you start to get at least one fairly predictable piece of the puzzle.
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                                                                      • coolguy73739
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 01-11-16
                                                                        • 1677

                                                                        #315
                                                                        Thanks Bud..
                                                                        Ya, the PUZZLE.. rightly said..
                                                                        Thanks for the input and Good luck for the season.
                                                                        You already doing Fantastic..
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