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  • BOA12
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-19-12
    • 20622

    #176
    Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
    12/29

    2:00
    VMI/USC Upstate o137

    5:00
    Florida Atlantic/South Florida o124.5

    5:30
    South Dakota St/Omaha o144.5

    FAU/S. FLA. OV looks best. BOL HGUY.
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    • trillz
      SBR MVP
      • 03-02-16
      • 1668

      #177
      VMI/USC at 138.5 juiced 115 would you still play?
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      • HeeluvaGuy
        SBR MVP
        • 02-15-14
        • 3449

        #178
        Originally posted by trillz
        VMI/USC at 138.5 juiced 115 would you still play?
        The juice bothers me more than the 138.5. Should get into the 140s, but I would pass on the -115. 5Dimes still has 137.5 -110.
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        • trillz
          SBR MVP
          • 03-02-16
          • 1668

          #179
          Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
          The juice bothers me more than the 138.5. Should get into the 140s, but I would pass on the -115. 5Dimes still has 137.5 -110.
          Thanks I laid off. I should probably make the move over to 5D anyways.
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          • trillz
            SBR MVP
            • 03-02-16
            • 1668

            #180
            Only 175 points in that one
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            • BagelBoy
              SBR Rookie
              • 12-19-19
              • 20

              #181
              Good day today - Honestly a little unlucky we didn't eek out that FAU game. It never looked great but many times we get 15 in the last minute in a game like that. Good stuff, brother. Cheers
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              • HeeluvaGuy
                SBR MVP
                • 02-15-14
                • 3449

                #182
                Originally posted by BagelBoy
                Good day today - Honestly a little unlucky we didn't eek out that FAU game. It never looked great but many times we get 15 in the last minute in a game like that. Good stuff, brother. Cheers
                Can't complain about 2-1, but yeah that one was winnable.
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                • HeeluvaGuy
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-15-14
                  • 3449

                  #183
                  Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                  12/29

                  2:00
                  VMI/USC Upstate o137

                  5:00
                  Florida Atlantic/South Florida o124.5

                  5:30
                  South Dakota St/Omaha o144.5


                  2-1 +.9u
                  51-31 +17.63u
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                  • doubledime
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 04-22-09
                    • 9751

                    #184
                    Once again, nicely done.

                    I may be reading your spread sheet incorrectly, but the last two days it appears that any under that has a 10 point difference or greater, has a 6-2 record, and would be 7-1 if not for the overtime of the Louisville/Kentucky game.

                    Two questions:

                    1. Am I reading your spread sheet correctly?
                    2. Albeit I only went back two days, but is there a reason you don't play more unders?


                    Thanks,

                    DD
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                    • HeeluvaGuy
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-15-14
                      • 3449

                      #185
                      Running behind today. I’ll get the model updated and any plays posted as soon as I can. Might not be ready for the early games.

                      DD - I’ll give you a better answer in a bit, but you are reading it correctly. Unders have been performing really well since I made a slight adjustment a little over a week ago.
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                      • HeeluvaGuy
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-15-14
                        • 3449

                        #186
                        12/30

                        2:00
                        Dartmouth/New Hampshire o128.5

                        6:30
                        Xavier +6

                        7:00
                        Northern Kentucky -5.5
                        UNC Wilmington/Drexel o140
                        Youngstown St/UIC o139

                        That's it through the 7:00 games. I'll update later if I have anything after that.

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                        • HeeluvaGuy
                          SBR MVP
                          • 02-15-14
                          • 3449

                          #187
                          Originally posted by doubledime
                          Once again, nicely done.

                          I may be reading your spread sheet incorrectly, but the last two days it appears that any under that has a 10 point difference or greater, has a 6-2 record, and would be 7-1 if not for the overtime of the Louisville/Kentucky game.

                          Two questions:

                          1. Am I reading your spread sheet correctly?
                          2. Albeit I only went back two days, but is there a reason you don't play more unders?


                          Thanks,

                          DD
                          A few reasons I don’t play as many unders:

                          1) I think I’m better at identifying factors that lead to overs. Some of that may be a result of the style of basketball I’m accustomed to watching. I much prefer uptempo, high scoring games over defensive slugfests. So I definitely have a bias towards overs.

                          2) About 10 days ago I discovered a bias in my model that was overestimating possessions and artificially inflating scores. The adjustment resulted in about a 4 point decrease in predicted totals. Since I’m doing this whole model in real time without the benefit of any testing, I’ve been waiting a bit to see what the results look like before trusting them too much.

                          3) I have zero data to back this up, but from years of watching basketball, I’ve found that the pre-conference games tend to be a little looser without the same intensity as conference play. That lack of intensity often means a lack of defense.

                          I suspect I’ll start playing more unders in coming weeks as the model results take shape and conference play gets going in earnest.
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                          • doubledime
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 04-22-09
                            • 9751

                            #188
                            Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                            A few reasons I don’t play as many unders:

                            1) I think I’m better at identifying factors that lead to overs. Some of that may be a result of the style of basketball I’m accustomed to watching. I much prefer uptempo, high scoring games over defensive slugfests. So I definitely have a bias towards overs.

                            2) About 10 days ago I discovered a bias in my model that was overestimating possessions and artificially inflating scores. The adjustment resulted in about a 4 point decrease in predicted totals. Since I’m doing this whole model in real time without the benefit of any testing, I’ve been waiting a bit to see what the results look like before trusting them too much.

                            3) I have zero data to back this up, but from years of watching basketball, I’ve found that the pre-conference games tend to be a little looser without the same intensity as conference play. That lack of intensity often means a lack of defense.

                            I suspect I’ll start playing more unders in coming weeks as the model results take shape and conference play gets going in earnest.
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                            • HeeluvaGuy
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-15-14
                              • 3449

                              #189
                              9:00
                              Harvard/San Francisco u150.5


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                              • loveofsports
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 07-11-15
                                • 199

                                #190
                                damn no one scoring in darmouth game
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                                • HeeluvaGuy
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-15-14
                                  • 3449

                                  #191
                                  Originally posted by loveofsports
                                  damn no one scoring in darmouth game
                                  Yeah. That first half was brutal. Almost got there anyway. On to the next I guess.
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                                  • HeeluvaGuy
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-15-14
                                    • 3449

                                    #192
                                    Originally posted by loveofsports
                                    damn no one scoring in darmouth game
                                    Yeah. That first half was brutal. Almost got there anyway. On to the next I guess.
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                                    • Mackballs
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 12-01-16
                                      • 5810

                                      #193
                                      Some hideous beats today.
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                                      • HeeluvaGuy
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-15-14
                                        • 3449

                                        #194
                                        Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                        12/30

                                        2:00
                                        Dartmouth/New Hampshire o128.5

                                        6:30
                                        Xavier +6

                                        7:00
                                        Northern Kentucky -5.5
                                        UNC Wilmington/Drexel o140
                                        Youngstown St/UIC o139

                                        Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                        9:00
                                        Harvard/San Francisco u150.5


                                        0-5-1 -5.5u
                                        51-36 +12.13u

                                        Awful day all around.
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                                        • trillz
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 03-02-16
                                          • 1668

                                          #195
                                          That’s definitely some variance kicking our ass. Early game terrible first half, Xavier covered if u got 6.5, UNCW was right there for the total and late game going overtime. Could have easily been 4-2 or 5-1 Get em tomorrow HG
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                                          • HeeluvaGuy
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-15-14
                                            • 3449

                                            #196
                                            Originally posted by trillz
                                            That’s definitely some variance kicking our ass. Early game terrible first half, Xavier covered if u got 6.5, UNCW was right there for the total and late game going overtime. Could have easily been 4-2 or 5-1 Get em tomorrow HG
                                            It was a weird day all around. Road teams covered in 70% of games yesterday, dogs covered 65%, and road dogs covered 72%.
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                                            • HeeluvaGuy
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-15-14
                                              • 3449

                                              #197
                                              12/31

                                              4:00
                                              Riverside +4.5

                                              5:00

                                              Evansville/Missouri St o133

                                              5:30

                                              Georgetown/Providence u151.5

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                                              • HeeluvaGuy
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-15-14
                                                • 3449

                                                #198
                                                Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                                12/31

                                                4:00
                                                Riverside +4.5

                                                5:00

                                                Evansville/Missouri St o133

                                                5:30

                                                Georgetown/Providence u151.5

                                                1-2 -1.2u
                                                52-38 +10.93u

                                                Not how I wanted to end the month, but unfortunately these things happen. Happy and Safe New Year to all!
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                                                • WhiteBison
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 12-03-19
                                                  • 13

                                                  #199
                                                  Thank you for posting and great run you have going
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                                                  • HeeluvaGuy
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-15-14
                                                    • 3449

                                                    #200
                                                    1/1

                                                    3:00
                                                    South Dakota/Ft Wayne o145

                                                    9:00
                                                    Marquette/Creighton u152


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                                                    • HeeluvaGuy
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-15-14
                                                      • 3449

                                                      #201
                                                      In case anyone doubted how weird the last couple of days have been, 1-9 Florida A&M just won in Ames by 2 as a +25.5/+2000 dog.
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                                                      • HeeluvaGuy
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-15-14
                                                        • 3449

                                                        #202
                                                        Quick update on my model and the adjustment I made on 12/20:

                                                        Since the update (331 games), totals are hitting 54.4%, with almost no difference between overs and unders on a percentage basis. Prior to the adjustment (534 games), totals were hitting 53.6% with overs hitting 54.7% and unders hitting 50%. So the adjustment seems to be on the right track.

                                                        The percentage of games where the model favors the under is also up from ~24% to ~38%.
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                                                        • loveofsports
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 07-11-15
                                                          • 199

                                                          #203
                                                          May have to fade for rest of year these picks are losing every single day.
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                                                          • trillz
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 03-02-16
                                                            • 1668

                                                            #204
                                                            Originally posted by loveofsports
                                                            May have to fade for rest of year these picks are losing every single day.
                                                            No need to announce it pal
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                                                            • loveofsports
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 07-11-15
                                                              • 199

                                                              #205
                                                              But I can and I did bud.
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                                                              • trillz
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 03-02-16
                                                                • 1668

                                                                #206
                                                                Originally posted by loveofsports
                                                                But I can and I did bud.
                                                                You’re gonna fade a thread hitting about 57% let me know how that works out for you
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                                                                • loveofsports
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 07-11-15
                                                                  • 199

                                                                  #207
                                                                  alright
                                                                  Last edited by loveofsports; 01-01-20, 10:07 PM.
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                                                                  • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-15-14
                                                                    • 3449

                                                                    #208
                                                                    Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                                                    1/1

                                                                    3:00
                                                                    South Dakota/Ft Wayne o145

                                                                    9:00
                                                                    Marquette/Creighton u152



                                                                    0-2 -2.2u
                                                                    52-40 +8.73u
                                                                    Rough few days for sure
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                                                                    • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-15-14
                                                                      • 3449

                                                                      #209
                                                                      1/2

                                                                      Noon
                                                                      UTEP/FIU u147

                                                                      Still working through the later games

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                                                                      • trillz
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 03-02-16
                                                                        • 1668

                                                                        #210
                                                                        Good start HG
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