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  • HeeluvaGuy
    SBR MVP
    • 02-15-14
    • 3449

    #351
    Most likely passing tonight. I posted my numbers for tomorrow in the spreadsheet, but lines are not out yet. I’ll add the extra games this evening. GL today!
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    • steel26
      SBR Hustler
      • 11-14-12
      • 53

      #352
      Keep it up. It’s working
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      • coolguy73739
        SBR MVP
        • 01-11-16
        • 1677

        #353
        Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
        Most likely passing tonight. I posted my numbers for tomorrow in the spreadsheet, but lines are not out yet. I’ll add the extra games this evening. GL today!
        How do you handle the situation when you filter, filter and narrow down to 2-3 games out of 1000's of Games and end up losing still!!??
        I can imagine the Frustration, I have gone through the same ..
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        • HeeluvaGuy
          SBR MVP
          • 02-15-14
          • 3449

          #354
          Originally posted by coolguy73739
          How do you handle the situation when you filter, filter and narrow down to 2-3 games out of 1000's of Games and end up losing still!!??
          I can imagine the Frustration, I have gone through the same ..
          I think I’ve just mellowed over the years. 99% of my plays are a single unit. No one play matters more to me than any other. Nights like last night are frustrating where I put time in and go 1-2 while my model goes 35-25 unfiltered.

          It’s not on purpose, but I generally end up playing about 10% of games. Over the course of the season that’s gonna be 400-500 plays. Lucky wins and soul crushing bad beats tend to even out, so I try not to dwell on either.
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          • coolguy73739
            SBR MVP
            • 01-11-16
            • 1677

            #355
            Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
            I think I’ve just mellowed over the years. 99% of my plays are a single unit. No one play matters more to me than any other. Nights like last night are frustrating where I put time in and go 1-2 while my model goes 35-25 unfiltered.

            It’s not on purpose, but I generally end up playing about 10% of games. Over the course of the season that’s gonna be 400-500 plays. Lucky wins and soul crushing bad beats tend to even out, so I try not to dwell on either.
            Well said.. I have a very poor money Management so have to travel a long way before I can get disciplined on that aspect..
            Good Luck for Saturday..
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            • bigbluemist
              SBR High Roller
              • 04-06-11
              • 121

              #356
              It takes discipline to play like that. As I’ve aged I’ve gotten better about, “not chasing” after a few bad games. The double up and catch up philosophy doesn’t work.

              Thanks for the hard work!!!
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              • HeeluvaGuy
                SBR MVP
                • 02-15-14
                • 3449

                #357
                1/18

                12:00
                Ohio St/Penn St u138

                1:00
                Florida St/Miami (FL) u143

                2:30
                Colorado/Arizona u140.5

                3:00
                Rice/Southern Miss o141

                4:00
                Florida A&M/South Carolina St o139.5
                Howard/Morgan St o150

                5:30
                Incarnate Word/Stephen F. Austin o138.5

                6:00
                Louisville/Duke u137.5


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                • bigbluemist
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 04-06-11
                  • 121

                  #358
                  GL today!!
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                  • loveofsports
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 07-11-15
                    • 199

                    #359
                    LOTS of ten point plus differentials today oh my oh my.
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                    • HeeluvaGuy
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-15-14
                      • 3449

                      #360
                      Dog of the Day: Wyoming +210 (.5u)

                      I’ll have to go back and look, but I think I’m 0-2 on these picks. They are primarily for fun, and I typically play them for less than a full bet. Model has the Cowboys by 4. Big angle for me on this one is the altitude. Fresno is a jump shooting team basically from sea level. Laramie is 7,000 feet. Looking back at the two games Fresno has played at altitude (Utah St and New Mexico), both are losses and they shot 7-34 and 6–21 from three in those games (combined 23.6%). Nearly 40% of Fresno’s points come from three, which is the 13th highest nationally. If their shooting is off, Wyoming should have a chance here. GL!
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                      • Mackballs
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 12-01-16
                        • 5810

                        #361
                        I meant, another ot game with an under that was a winner 98% of the game. Just silly at this point.
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                        • cmatth1326
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 11-18-08
                          • 761

                          #362
                          They don’t call it “overtime” for nothing.
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                          • HeeluvaGuy
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-15-14
                            • 3449

                            #363
                            Frustrating stuff. Not sorry that I’m too busy today to follow closely.
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                            • cmatth1326
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 11-18-08
                              • 761

                              #364
                              Looks like Fresno didn’t have a hard time with the elevation.
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                              • HeeluvaGuy
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-15-14
                                • 3449

                                #365
                                Originally posted by cmatth1326
                                Looks like Fresno didn’t have a hard time with the elevation.

                                Oh they shot plenty bad, but Wyoming was much, much worse.
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                                • HeeluvaGuy
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-15-14
                                  • 3449

                                  #366
                                  Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                  1/18

                                  12:00
                                  Ohio St/Penn St u138

                                  1:00
                                  Florida St/Miami (FL) u143

                                  2:30
                                  Colorado/Arizona u140.5

                                  3:00
                                  Rice/Southern Miss o141

                                  4:00
                                  Florida A&M/South Carolina St o139.5
                                  Howard/Morgan St o150

                                  5:30
                                  Incarnate Word/Stephen F. Austin o138.5

                                  6:00
                                  Louisville/Duke u137.5



                                  3-5 -2.5u
                                  YTD: 88-66 +15.63u
                                  Jan: 36-28 +4.7u
                                  Dec: 52-38 +10.93u

                                  Really bad day for my model. I'm hoping it's an anomaly, but I am going to keep an eye on things. As bad as 3-5 is, we missed one because of OT and another by 3 where one team was 4-22 from three.
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                                  • HeeluvaGuy
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-15-14
                                    • 3449

                                    #367
                                    Thanks for the points guys. I know it's been a disappointing few days. Looking forward to watching the football games tomorrow with the light CBB card. I will wait until the morning to update the model and post any picks for Sunday.
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                                    • cmatth1326
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 11-18-08
                                      • 761

                                      #368
                                      Keep up the good work. It’s hard to find a model that works long term. Hopefully it’s just a little regression to the mean and then it picks back up again.
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                                      • coolguy73739
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-11-16
                                        • 1677

                                        #369
                                        Hard Luck but I'm sure you will bounce back Mate!..
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                                        • HeeluvaGuy
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-15-14
                                          • 3449

                                          #370
                                          1/19

                                          1:00


                                          Siena/Niagara o143.5


                                          4:00


                                          Loyola (IL)/Illinois St o130


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                                          • bigbluemist
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 04-06-11
                                            • 121

                                            #371
                                            Today is a new day

                                            💰💵👍👍
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                                            • Fabiodog
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 03-17-13
                                              • 319

                                              #372
                                              Looks like we got hooked
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                                              • Fabiodog
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 03-17-13
                                                • 319

                                                #373
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                                                • HeeluvaGuy
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-15-14
                                                  • 3449

                                                  #374
                                                  Originally posted by Fabiodog
                                                  Looks like we got hooked
                                                  Indeed. Probably shouldn’t have been that close though. Kenpom and I overestimated the possessions by about 10. Only really efficient scoring made it close.
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                                                  • HeeluvaGuy
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-15-14
                                                    • 3449

                                                    #375
                                                    Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                                    1/19

                                                    1:00


                                                    Siena/Niagara o143.5


                                                    4:00


                                                    Loyola (IL)/Illinois St o130


                                                    0-2 -2.2u
                                                    YTD: 88-68 +13.43u
                                                    Jan: 36-30 +2.5u
                                                    Dec: 52-38 +10.93u

                                                    Can't buy one right now
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                                                    • loveofsports
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 07-11-15
                                                      • 199

                                                      #376
                                                      model went 2-1 i think today though... (10 diff model)
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                                                      • HeeluvaGuy
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-15-14
                                                        • 3449

                                                        #377
                                                        Originally posted by loveofsports
                                                        model went 2-1 i think today though... (10 diff model)
                                                        Yeah, that’s what’s frustrating for me. It’s actually3-1 on the 10+ based on the closing lines. I should be picking better than this.
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                                                        • bigbluemist
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 04-06-11
                                                          • 121

                                                          #378
                                                          Like when I told my oldest when he played baseball, one day it looks like a volleyball and the next it’s like your trying to hit an aspirin.

                                                          It’s all good
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                                                          • HeeluvaGuy
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 02-15-14
                                                            • 3449

                                                            #379
                                                            1/20

                                                            7:00
                                                            St. Francis (NY)/Mt. St. Mary's o129

                                                            7:30
                                                            NC A&T/Morgan St o141.5


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                                                            • coolguy73739
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-11-16
                                                              • 1677

                                                              #380
                                                              Do you play all the games you have edge on or you have some limited numbers to play and in that case you ignore other games even though you have definite edge on those?
                                                              I believe More games is less Variance so its beneficial in the long run, However more games in the previous sentence doesn't mean 4-5 games..
                                                              Variance will dip when games are in the range of 200-300 or may be more, can't give a number at this stage.
                                                              So effectively, we can be a victim of variance if we play 4-5 games on the trot.. We can be a victim of variance even if we play 1-2 games per day or just that one Game of the Century, our so called BEST PICK.. So then how many games?
                                                              This dilemma has been haunting me for a while.. Would appreciate a valuable feedback from your end.. Thanks in advance.. GL
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                                                              • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 02-15-14
                                                                • 3449

                                                                #381
                                                                Originally posted by coolguy73739
                                                                Do you play all the games you have edge on or you have some limited numbers to play and in that case you ignore other games even though you have definite edge on those?
                                                                I believe More games is less Variance so its beneficial in the long run, However more games in the previous sentence doesn't mean 4-5 games..
                                                                Variance will dip when games are in the range of 200-300 or may be more, can't give a number at this stage.
                                                                So effectively, we can be a victim of variance if we play 4-5 games on the trot.. We can be a victim of variance even if we play 1-2 games per day or just that one Game of the Century, our so called BEST PICK.. So then how many games?
                                                                This dilemma has been haunting me for a while.. Would appreciate a valuable feedback from your end.. Thanks in advance.. GL
                                                                I personally don’t set a number of plays. I probably sound like a broken record, but with 4-5,000 games in a season, there is no need to force any plays. That said, I just looked back at my two earlier threads, and I’m playing a lot more volume these days than I did a few years back. Part of that is several years of playing and testing.

                                                                I approach pick selection from the fundamentals of the game. I have found that trying to get in the mind of the books is a losing proposition for me. That stuff can drive you crazy. To me the most important thing is having a methodology and being consistent. Like a science experiment with controls and variables.

                                                                To give an idea, in my last two threads I was 105-95 and 113-92 for the whole season. This year I have already played 156 games. That’s a function of having a methodology that I have enough confidence in. I tend to agree that more plays means reduced variance, but I don’t recommend volume for volume’s sake.

                                                                Not sure if that answers your questions, but I hope it helps.
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                                                                • coolguy73739
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-11-16
                                                                  • 1677

                                                                  #382
                                                                  Thanks for your valuable feedback although my query was about whether you ignore or play all the games you have edge on..

                                                                  Thanks and appreciate.. GL
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                                                                  • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-15-14
                                                                    • 3449

                                                                    #383
                                                                    Originally posted by coolguy73739
                                                                    Thanks for your valuable feedback although my query was about whether you ignore or play all the games you have edge on..

                                                                    Thanks and appreciate.. GL

                                                                    I guess it depends on how you define edge. I think my answer is that I play every game I think I have an edge on. Sure there are close calls, but I definitely don't limit myself just because I have "enough plays."
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                                                                    • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-15-14
                                                                      • 3449

                                                                      #384
                                                                      Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                                                      1/20

                                                                      7:00
                                                                      St. Francis (NY)/Mt. St. Mary's o129

                                                                      7:30
                                                                      NC A&T/Morgan St o141.5



                                                                      1-1 -.1u
                                                                      YTD: 89-69 +13.33u
                                                                      Jan: 37-31 +2.4u
                                                                      Dec: 52-38 +10.93u

                                                                      At one point St. Francis was 1-21 from three. Not sure I've seen that level of futility before. They finished 3-27 from deep and that over never had a chance.
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                                                                      • loveofsports
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 07-11-15
                                                                        • 199

                                                                        #385
                                                                        Bad day for the 10 point differentials overall.

                                                                        Think missed one game, and looks like everything would have evened out damn.
                                                                        Last edited by loveofsports; 01-21-20, 10:13 AM.
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